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  • thejkhan's Avatar
    Today, 10:17 AM
    Let's just say I don't know everything about this topic, neither when most conversions took place, neither how widespread foreign ancestry in UP...
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  • Maleschreiber's Avatar
    Today, 10:11 AM
    Hey, I have a book (offline) that lists villages in Laberia with genealogical information from the defter of Sancak of Arvanid. Many settlements...
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  • thejkhan's Avatar
    Today, 10:11 AM
    Tbh, I don't like seeing Iranian results in this thread either. :)
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  • laltota's Avatar
    Today, 10:09 AM
    laltota replied to a thread Post HarappaWorld results in Southern
    You could still post here or start a new thread for UP Muslim/Mohajir sample results?
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  • thejkhan's Avatar
    Today, 10:01 AM
    No I didn't actually. I did not think it's too far from being representative of the Muslim Upper class. Things start changing towards Bihar/Bengal...
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  • agent_lime's Avatar
    Today, 09:51 AM
    Where did I claim they are Muslim? I said the locals are the same across religion. You are free to look at the previous page, where I posted the...
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  • Sapporo's Avatar
    Today, 09:50 AM
    Sapporo replied to a thread Post HarappaWorld results in Southern
    I do understand your point and also what agent_lime was suggesting. However, my only real disagreement with you was on whether some of the Harappa UP...
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  • thejkhan's Avatar
    Today, 09:45 AM
    "These Muslims" --- how did you deduce they are Muslims? Black magic? They could be anything. You are very articulate Sapporo, but you keep...
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  • MonkeyDLuffy's Avatar
    Today, 09:42 AM
    I can dig some UP muslim/Pakistani Mohajjir samples that are not part of the sheet. It just requires a lot of emails. And from the way this thread...
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  • Sapporo's Avatar
    Today, 09:42 AM
    Sapporo replied to a thread Post HarappaWorld results in Southern
    I think we may have a member from Pakistan with UP Muslim ancestry? I may be mistaken though. However, we have had multiple Gujarati Muslim...
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  • agent_lime's Avatar
    Today, 09:31 AM
    The Harappa sheet I posted + some that client and thejkhan posted. We are pretty under sampled for UP. Only Punjab/ Southern Indian states are well...
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  • Reza's Avatar
    Today, 09:27 AM
    Reza replied to a thread Post HarappaWorld results in Southern
    There's alot of subjective and anecdotal observation going on here. And alot of a priori assumptions. It would be useful to actually compare and...
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  • client's Avatar
    Today, 09:24 AM
    client replied to a thread Post HarappaWorld results in Southern
    What are regular UP folks or locals? UP's population is 200 million. In West UP regular folks are Jat, Gujjar, Ahir, Brahmin, Rajput, Jatav and...
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  • agent_lime's Avatar
    Today, 09:22 AM
    These are the only UP samples we have on G25. My contention is since they converted from the locals, their genetics will be similar to the locals....
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  • laltota's Avatar
    Today, 09:18 AM
    laltota replied to a thread Post HarappaWorld results in Southern
    OK, I guess you meant those posted above are regular UP folks (non-Muslim), and they are likely similar to the "low caste type" Muslims mentioned by...
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  • Sapporo's Avatar
    Today, 09:16 AM
    Sapporo replied to a thread Post HarappaWorld results in Southern
    The top part of my post was a general observation (more aimed at client if anythinng). Nothing more. However, you did state the following: ...
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  • Jatt1's Avatar
    Today, 09:13 AM
    Jatt1 replied to a thread ANCIENT DNA J1 in J1-M267
    Does anyone know whose this kit# YF66089 in subclade J-Z1853* is?
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  • laltota's Avatar
    Today, 09:09 AM
    laltota replied to a thread Post HarappaWorld results in Southern
    I am a little confused with above ^. Z217 Z218 Z220 are Muslims? Also what caste are regular UP folks?
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  • agent_lime's Avatar
    Today, 09:05 AM
    Here you go. Looking at the comments, HRP0318 is from Multan. Where are the 30's?
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  • anglesqueville's Avatar
    Today, 09:00 AM
    anglesqueville replied to a thread COVID 19 in French
    Fabrice, puisque tu es dans le milieu, je te pose la question. Les hôpitaux privés sont-ils vraiment entièrement mobilisés dans cette crise? Mes...
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  • agent_lime's Avatar
    Today, 08:55 AM
    These Muslims can't be very different from the regular UP folks. Mulley Jats, Gujjar, Brahmin Converts + mixed folks are the exceptions. They are a...
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  • Gee's Avatar
    Today, 08:55 AM
    Gee replied to a thread Post HarappaWorld results in Southern
    Likely coastal iranian(maybe arab?): Admix Results (sorted): # Population Percent 1 Caucasian 28.01 2 Baloch 27.63
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  • Baltimore1937's Avatar
    Today, 08:51 AM
    Baltimore1937 replied to a thread Bears in Natural Sciences
    Theory why Cave Bears went extinct: ...
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  • ffoucart's Avatar
    Today, 08:45 AM
    ffoucart replied to a thread COVID 19 in French
    Le New York Times a publié une prise de position intéressante sur les Afroaméricains (chez qui le COVID 1 risque de faire des ravages):...
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  • thejkhan's Avatar
    Today, 08:44 AM
    You really are putting words into my mouth. The discussion was whether 30s or 40s SI is common among UP Muslims. It was not a contest of Muslim SI...
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  • Osiris's Avatar
    Today, 08:23 AM
    huh, I thought I commented in this thread. FTDNA has this feature and I do really enjoy it there and have managed to link a bunch of people and...
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  • Omaar's Avatar
    Today, 08:04 AM
    Omaar replied to a thread Somalis and E-Y17859 in E
    Yes!, but unfortunately I don't know his background. Seems, we both belong to E-BY192465. which is downstream of haplogroup E-Y18637. Almagest,...
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  • Colk's Avatar
    Today, 07:54 AM
    Gents - Interesting there are now two Egan and two Keegan men FTDNA BigY tested to R-BY198/A738. I have also been allocated R-BY198 on YFull.
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