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Tomenable
03-31-2017, 09:16 PM
The Andaman Association created by George Weber has been researching Negrito populations for over a dozen years. They used to have a website "George Weber's Lonely Islands" at www.andaman.org. It seems that they also published a book ("Lonely Islands: The Andamanese Bibliography", Andaman Association, 1999).

The old website disappeared by the end of 2013, but it can be found in web archive:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130520190644/http://www.andaman.org/index.htm

https://web.archive.org/web/20130402150943/http://www.andaman.org/BOOK/chapter6/text6.htm

https://web.archive.org/web/20130402190016/http://andaman.org/BOOK/chapter47/text47.htm

Since 2014 there is a new website but not all info from the old site has been added:

http://www.andamans.org/

The following groups have been classified as Negrito or Negrito-like by George Weber:

Indian Subcontinent:

01 Vedda
02 Kadar, Kanikkar, Kurumbar, Palliyan, Panyan,
00 Puliyan, and Urali
03 Irular
04 Yanadi
05 Chenchu, Ho
06 Oraon
07 Gond
08 Birhor
09 Santal
10 Naga

Bay of Bengal:

11 Andamanese - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andaman_Islands#Indigenous_Andamanese
12 Nicobarese - https://web.archive.org/web/20130507084319/http://www.andaman.org/NICOBAR/book/photoalbum/Nicophotos.htm

Continental Southeast Asia:

13 Moken
14 Shompen - https://web.archive.org/web/20130605062748/http://www.andaman.org/NICOBAR/book/Shompen/Shompen.htm
15 Yumbri
16 Takkui
17 Porr (Jong)
18 Moi (Anu-chu, Jarai, or Montagnards)
19 Senoi, Sakai (Malaysia)
20 Semang (Malaysia) and Mani (Thailand)

Indonesia:

21 Niasan
22 Mentaweians
23 Sugganese
24 Sumatran Kubus
25 Lingga Kubus
26 Bangka Kubus
27 Belitung Kubus
28A Alorese, Pantarese, some Timorese, etc.
28B Kalang (extinct)
29 Alfur, etc.
30 Tobelorese, etc.
31 Toradja, etc.
32 Toala
33 Loinang, Laki, etc.
34 Punan

Papua and New Guinea:

35 Tapiro
36 Botem
37 pygmies of the Sepik source area
38 pygmies of the Torricelli Mountains
39 Ayome pygmies
40 Kamaweka
41 pygmies of the Gogol and Ramu river areas
42 Normanby island pygmies
43 population in the interior of the Gazelle peninsula (New Britain)

The Philippines:

44 Aeta
45 Alangan (Mindoro)
46 Batak (Palawan)
47 Dumagat Negritos
48 Ati (Panay)
49 Ati (Negros)
50 Mamanua (Mindanao)
51 Tiruray, Ata, Upland Bagobo

Australia:

52 Bathurst and Melville islanders
53 Barrineans (Atherton plateau or Queensland Negritos)
54 Tasmanians

I can add also several groups from Oceania to that list:

Oceania:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_peoples#Oceania

55 Palau Negritos
56 Vanuatu Negritos - I saw a photo of a man who is 50% Vanuatu Negrito + 50% German-Canadian*

*Unfortunately this man has not tested his DNA so far.


Vanuatu
During the 1900s when Vanuatu was known as New Hebrides, sizable Negrito tribes were first reported throughout northeastern Santo. It is likely that they are not limited to this region of New Hebrides. Nonetheless, there is no anthropological evidence linking Negritos to other islands of Vanuatu.[54][57]

Fiji
Norman Gabel mentions that rumours exist of pygmy people in the interior mountains of Viti Levu in Fiji, but explains he had no evidence of their existence.[53] E.W. Gifford reiterates Gabel's statement and claims that tribes of pygmies in the closest proximity to Fiji would most likely be found in Vanuatu.[54]

What exactly do we know about autosomal genetics and haplogroups of these populations?

Are any Negrito genomes available in HGDP, have any of them been uploaded to GEDmatch?

Tomenable
03-31-2017, 09:42 PM
I have previously uploaded a South-Western Australian sample to GEDmatch:

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?9193-Gedmatch-results-of-a-Native-Australian-sample&p=200111&viewfull=1#post200111

I wonder how much different from that sample would Australian Negritos be?:


52 Bathurst and Melville islanders
53 Barrineans (Atherton plateau or Queensland Negritos)
54 Tasmanians

Tomenable
04-01-2017, 02:23 AM
Some Negrito and neighbouring samples from EGDP:

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com.au/2016/09/estonian-biocentre-human-genome.html

Y-DNA haplogroups:

Gond1 - O2a2
Ho1 - O2a2
Santh1 - R2a
Aeta1 - S3a1
Aeta2 - S3a1
Aeta3 - C7b1
Agta2 - O1b
Agta1 - P2
Agta3 - O1a
Bajo2 - C2a1a
Bajo17 - S1
Bajo19 - C2
Bajo21 - O3i
Batak1 - O1c
Batak2 - O1c
Batak3 - O3i
Dusun10
Dusun7 - O2a2
Dusun5
Dusun14
Dusun12 - O2a2
Dusun11
Dusun8 - C9
Dusun4
Igorot6
Igrt1 - O3e
Igorot5
Igorot3
Igorot4
Igrt2
Igrt3
Igrt4
Lebb1 - O2a2
Lebb2 - S2
Lebb3 - C7a
Lebb4 - C7a
Murut19 - Q2c
Murut13 - O1c
Murut11
Murut4
Murut3 - C7b1
Murut20
Murut6 - O1c
Murut5 - C7b1

jortita
04-01-2017, 10:57 AM
The Nagas, which is not one ethnic group but many different ethnic groups combined including Ao Naga, Angami Naga, Zou Naga, Tankhul Naga among others, being classified as Negrito origin does not make sense as they have significant Siberian ancestry

Tomenable
04-02-2017, 06:11 PM
"Genetic study reveals some Aetas and Indians share ancient ancestry":

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/328467/scitech/science/genetic-study-reveals-some-aetas-and-indians-share-ancient-ancestry

Aetas are a Negrito ethnic group from South-East Asia (the Philippines).

It seems that Negrito groups also share this purple component at K14:

http://i.imgur.com/nu8SBfg.jpg

shazou
08-18-2017, 05:14 AM
I like this admixture chart as well:

http://i.imgur.com/1inY28C.png

Source: https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/doi/10.1093/molbev/msx196/3952785/Complex-Patterns-of-Admixture-across-the

lukaszM
10-05-2017, 01:57 PM
There is full Australian genome here https://www.oagr.org.au/dataset/34
But it is bam file 17.6GB. Somebody can download and convert:)

Tomenable
10-20-2017, 01:23 PM
Aeta GEDmatch results: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?12366-Aeta-Negrito-on-Gedmatch&p=299255&viewfull=1#post299255

client
04-18-2019, 04:07 PM
I wasn't sure where to post this, but it's pretty amazing!
"sample": "Test1:Australian",
"fit": 1.5699,
"Papuan": 65.83,
"Great_Andamanese_100BP": 31.67,
"Morocco_Iberomaurusian": 0.83,
"San": 0.83,
"Tibetan": 0.83,
"MA1": 0,
"closestDistances": [
"Papuan:undefined: 20.79179",
"Great_Andamanese_100BP:undefined: 39.98317",
"Tibetan:undefined: 53.92118",
"MA1:undefined: 57.76904",
"Morocco_Iberomaurusian:undefined: 67.16426",
"San:undefined: 85.98078"
]

Tomenable
04-23-2019, 12:41 PM
Have any Vedda samples been published?

shazou
04-27-2019, 06:32 AM
Malaysian Negritos are genetically closer to Onge/Andamanese I believe, whilst Philippine Negritos are closer to Melanesian/Papuan DNA in affinity.

Tomenable
03-26-2022, 05:50 PM
^^^
I must add the Maniq and the Jehai to my list of Negrito populations from the opening post:

Target: Maniq
Distance: 4.3294% / 0.04329354
68.2 Negrito
31.2 East_Eurasian
0.6 Sahulian

Target: Jehai
Distance: 5.2043% / 0.05204299
63.8 Negrito
36.2 East_Eurasian

The Maniq people (the last modern hunter-gatherers of Thailand) look like this:

https://lukeduggleby.photoshelter.com/image/I0000LjLy3eT5bFw

"Evidence suggests that the Maniq, a Negrito tribe of hunters and gatherers, have inhabited the Malay Peninsula for around 25,000 years."

https://i.imgur.com/rTT1HWY.png

Tomenable
03-26-2022, 05:53 PM
Malaysian Negritos are genetically closer to Onge/Andamanese I believe, whilst Philippine Negritos are closer to Melanesian/Papuan DNA in affinity.

It does seem so. In my calculator (see the thread linked below) Aeta and Agta score this:

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?25978-Try-my-new-G25-calculator


Target: Aeta
Distance: 1.8551% / 0.01855082
34.2 East_Eurasian:VUT_2900BP_all
13.0 East_Eurasian:TON_2500BP_Sk10
12.8 Sahulian:Australian_B_Australian3
9.2 South_Asian:Simulated_AASI_2
8.2 East_Eurasian:VUT_Teouma
7.4 East_Eurasian:TON_2500BP_TON002
6.6 South_Asian:Simulated_AASI_3
2.4 South_African:ZAF_2000BP:I9133
2.4 West_Eurasian:RUS_AfontovaGora3
1.8 Sahulian:Papuan_HGDP00541
0.6 Central_African:Biaka_HGDP00455
0.6 West_Eurasian:GEO_CHG_KK1
0.4 Amerindian:Surui_HGDP00832
0.4 South_Asian:Simulated_AASI_4


Target: Agta
Distance: 2.7630% / 0.02763048
47.4 East_Eurasian:TON_2500BP_Sk10
14.0 Sahulian:AUS_Mapoon_112BP_MH6
13.0 East_Eurasian:TON_2500BP_TON002
8.4 South_Asian:Simulated_AASI_2
4.8 South_Asian:Simulated_AASI_4
3.8 Sahulian:Australian_B_Australian4
2.4 East_Eurasian:VUT_Teouma
2.2 Taforalt:MAR_Taforalt_TAF014
1.2 Amerindian:Karitiana_HGDP01001
1.0 South_African:ZAF_2100BP:I9028
0.8 South_African:Ju_hoan_North_B_Ju_hoan_North-4
0.6 West_Eurasian:RUS_AfontovaGora3
0.4 South_African:ZAF_2000BP:I9133


^^^
And after removing TON and VUT (these are both Lapita culture samples) they score:


Target: Agta
Distance: 3.7542% / 0.03754218
50.0 East_Eurasian:TWN_Gongguan
12.0 Wallacean:IDN_Leang_Panninge_7100BP
10.2 South_Asian:Simulated_AASI_3
6.8 Sahulian:AUS_Barham_1600BP-1400BP_KP2
6.2 East_Eurasian:GUM_Late_Unai_Ritidian
5.6 Sahulian:Australian_B_Australian3
4.4 South_Asian:Simulated_AASI_2
2.6 South_African:ZAF_2100BP:I9028
2.2 West_Eurasian:TUR_Pinarbasi_HG_ZBC_IPB001


Target: Aeta
Distance: 2.9213% / 0.02921292
55.8 East_Eurasian:TWN_Gongguan
15.2 South_Asian:Simulated_AASI_3
11.0 Wallacean:IDN_Leang_Panninge_7100BP
8.8 Sahulian:Australian_B_Australian3
2.6 West_Eurasian:GEO_CHG_KK1
2.4 South_African:ZAF_2000BP:I9133
1.4 Negrito:Jarawa_JW-60
1.2 Sahulian:Papuan_HGDP00545
1.0 West_Eurasian:WHG_Rochedane
0.4 West_Eurasian:TUR_Pinarbasi_HG_ZBC_IPB001
0.2 Sahulian:AUS_Barham_1600BP-1400BP_KP2


^^^
Interesting, it seems that Negrito is still not preferred, but instead they get some AASI.


=====


After removing TWN, they finally score Negrito (does it mean that ancient Taiwan samples might be partially Negrito and not fully East Asian?):


Target: Agta
Distance: 4.6216% / 0.04621646
55.0 East_Eurasian:GUM_Late_Unai_Ritidian
29.6 Negrito:Jarawa_JW-60
13.2 Sahulian:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP_WLH4
2.2 South_African:ZAF_2000BP:I9133


Target: Aeta
Distance: 4.0605% / 0.04060546
55.0 East_Eurasian:GUM_Late_Unai_Ritidian
32.8 Negrito:Jarawa_JW-60
8.2 Sahulian:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP_WLH4
2.0 South_African:ZAF_2000BP:I9133
1.8 Sahulian:Papuan_HGDP00545
0.2 Wallacean:IDN_Leang_Panninge_7100BP


^^^
And after removing also GUM_Late_Unai_Ritidian:


Target: Agta
Distance: 11.2890% / 0.11289005
43.2 East_Eurasian:CHN_Amur_River_19000BP
39.6 Negrito:Jarawa_JW-60
10.8 Sahulian:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP_WLH4
5.4 Negrito:Jarawa_JW-5
1.0 South_African:Ju_hoan_North_B_Ju_hoan_North-4


Target: Aeta
Distance: 10.9037% / 0.10903654
45.2 Negrito:Jarawa_JW-5
34.0 East_Eurasian:CHN_Amur_River_19000BP
8.4 East_Eurasian:CHN_Yellow_River_LN
4.4 Negrito:Jarawa_JW-60
3.8 Sahulian:Papuan_HGDP00545
3.4 Sahulian:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_4000BP_WLH4
0.8 South_African:Ju_hoan_North_B_Ju_hoan_North-4

pmokeefe
03-26-2022, 07:56 PM
Unveiling the Genetic History of the Maniq, a primary hunter-gatherer society (https://academic.oup.com/gbe/advance-article/doi/10.1093/gbe/evac021/6526392) (2022)

The Peopling and Migration History of the Natives in Peninsular Malaysia and Borneo: A Glimpse on the Studies Over the Past 100 years. (https://europepmc.org/article/pmc/pmc8829068#id615117) (2022)

Genetic Connections and Convergent Evolution of Tropical Indigenous Peoples in Asia (https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/39/2/msab361/6481554) (2022)

Philippine Ayta possess the highest level of Denisovan ancestry in the world (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982221009775) (2021)

Multiple migrations to the Philippines during the last 50,000 years (https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2026132118) (2021)

Genomic structure of the native inhabitants of Peninsular Malaysia and North Borneo suggests complex human population history in Southeast Asia (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00439-018-1869-0) (2018)

Contrasting maternal and paternal genetic variation of hunter-gatherer groups in Thailand (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-20020-0) (2018)

Ancient Genomics Reveals Four Prehistoric Migration Waves into Southeast Asia (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/278374v1.abstract) (2018)

Just a quick survey, probably not comprehensive.

Tomenable
04-26-2022, 04:34 PM
Unveiling the Genetic History of the Maniq, a primary hunter-gatherer society (https://academic.oup.com/gbe/advance-article/doi/10.1093/gbe/evac021/6526392) (2022)

The Peopling and Migration History of the Natives in Peninsular Malaysia and Borneo: A Glimpse on the Studies Over the Past 100 years. (https://europepmc.org/article/pmc/pmc8829068#id615117) (2022)

Genetic Connections and Convergent Evolution of Tropical Indigenous Peoples in Asia (https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/39/2/msab361/6481554) (2022)

Philippine Ayta possess the highest level of Denisovan ancestry in the world (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982221009775) (2021)

Multiple migrations to the Philippines during the last 50,000 years (https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2026132118) (2021)

Genomic structure of the native inhabitants of Peninsular Malaysia and North Borneo suggests complex human population history in Southeast Asia (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00439-018-1869-0) (2018)

Contrasting maternal and paternal genetic variation of hunter-gatherer groups in Thailand (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-20020-0) (2018)

Ancient Genomics Reveals Four Prehistoric Migration Waves into Southeast Asia (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/278374v1.abstract) (2018)

Just a quick survey, probably not comprehensive.

Thanks! So much of new stuff has been published since I opened this thread back in 2017 - wow!