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paoloferrari
04-13-2017, 06:30 PM
http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/4/4/161054

Abstract

The aim of this anthropometric survey, conducted between 2015 and 2016 in Bosnia and Herzegovina (BiH), was to map local geographical differences in male stature and some other anthropometric characteristics (sitting height, arm span). In addition, to investigate the main environmental factors influencing physical growth, the documented values of height would be compared with available nutritional and socioeconomic statistics. Anthropometric data were collected in 3192 boys aged approximately 18.3 years (17–20 years), from 97 schools in 37 towns. When corrected for population size in the examined regions, the average height of young males in BiH is 181.2 cm (181.4 cm in the Bosniak-Croat Federation, 180.9 cm in Republika Srpska). The regional variation is considerable—from 179.7 cm in the region of Doboj to 184.5 cm in the region of Trebinje. These results fill a long-term gap in the anthropological research of the Western Balkans and confirm older reports that the population of the Dinaric Alps is distinguished by extraordinary physical stature. Together with the Dutch, Montenegrins and Dalmatians, men from Herzegovina (183.4 cm) can be regarded as the tallest in the world. Because both nutritional standards and socioeconomic conditions are still deeply suboptimal, the most likely explanation of this exceptional height lies in specific genetic factors associated with the spread of Y haplogroup I-M170. The genetic potential for height in this region could then be the greatest in the world. Future studies should further elucidate the roots of this intriguing phenomenon, which touches an important aspect of human biodiversity.

lgmayka
04-13-2017, 09:26 PM
Because both nutritional standards and socioeconomic conditions are still deeply suboptimal, the most likely explanation of this exceptional height lies in specific genetic factors associated with the spread of Y haplogroup I-M170 .
This conclusion is somewhere between dubious and hare-brained. I presume they are referring to Dutch I1 (I-M253) and West Balkan I2-Dinaric (I-CTS10228). Those two diverged over 27,000 years ago, and there are now millions of men in haplogroup I all over Europe and beyond who do not enjoy increased stature.

Now if they want to attribute some increased stature to milk consumption (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_milk_consumption_per_capita). ..
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Country Milk consumption per capita (kg)
Finland 361.19
Sweden 355.86
Netherlands 320.15
Switzerland 315.78
Greece 314.69
Montenegro 305.87
Lithuania 303.0
Denmark 295.62
Albania 281.17
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J Man
04-14-2017, 02:20 AM
This conclusion is somewhere between dubious and hare-brained. I presume they are referring to Dutch I1 (I-M253) and West Balkan I2-Dinaric (I-CTS10228). Those two diverged over 27,000 years ago, and there are now millions of men in haplogroup I all over Europe and beyond who do not enjoy increased stature.

Now if they want to attribute some increased stature to milk consumption (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_milk_consumption_per_capita). ..
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Country Milk consumption per capita (kg)
Finland 361.19
Sweden 355.86
Netherlands 320.15
Switzerland 315.78
Greece 314.69
Montenegro 305.87
Lithuania 303.0
Denmark 295.62
Albania 281.17
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I agree...It is quite unlikely that Y-DNA haplogroups have much if anything to do with stature of men around the globe. There are plenty of short statured I2 Sardinian men and I1 Sami men....More likely stature is influenced by autosomal genetic factors and nutritional factors.

lukaszM
05-02-2017, 02:58 PM
I agree...It is quite unlikely that Y-DNA haplogroups have much if anything to do with stature of men around the globe. There are plenty of short statured I2 Sardinian men and I1 Sami men....More likely stature is influenced by autosomal genetic factors and nutritional factors.

Only autosomal and enviromental. Y-DNA doesn't code anything related to external phenotype.