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noman
05-15-2017, 06:35 PM
Hey guys,

My parents belong to the Northern region of Pakistan, specifically Azad Kashmir.
http://i.imgur.com/8xoaGmY.png

WeGene Results:

http://i.imgur.com/0Iwxx6J.png
http://i.imgur.com/a0JRADV.png

23andme Results:

http://i.imgur.com/cO7PiVj.png
http://i.imgur.com/1oqGGBD.png

DNA.LAND Results:

http://i.imgur.com/xAvidKv.png

Harappa World Results:

http://i.imgur.com/xWWtTZ5.png

MDLP Results:

http://imgur.com/a/XYOgg

EthioHelix Results:

http://imgur.com/a/JKsTQ

puntDNAL Results:

http://imgur.com/a/0X9jI

Gedrosia DNA Results:

http://imgur.com/a/T3nWM

Dedocad Results:

http://imgur.com/a/KNEVp

Eurogenes Results:

http://imgur.com/a/wwRJP

noman
05-16-2017, 12:31 AM
More Results added!

bol_nat
05-16-2017, 04:04 AM
Can you post results from gedmatch.com calc?

noman
05-16-2017, 10:17 AM
Can you post results from gedmatch.com calc?
I had uploaded my raw data from 23andme to gedmatch. Batching is also done, but it doesn't show me any option for ancestry composition.
Do you know where can I find my results on gedmatch?

bol_nat
05-16-2017, 02:52 PM
I had uploaded my raw data from 23andme to gedmatch. Batching is also done, but it doesn't show me any option for ancestry composition.
Do you know where can I find my results on gedmatch?

Copy your gedmatch kit number (left side), click on Admixture (right side), select any calculator like Harappaworld and then enter kit number to continue.

bol_nat
05-16-2017, 03:12 PM
Are you raja?

noman
05-16-2017, 03:26 PM
Are you raja?

Rajput Chauhan

I have updated the links. Can you please me decoding them?

bol_nat
05-16-2017, 04:00 PM
Rajput Chauhan

I have updated the links. Can you please me decoding them?

Your results are in line with what we've seen from AJK and punjab.

noman
05-16-2017, 06:37 PM
Your results are in line with what we've seen from AJK and punjab.
Time to find my family tree.

khanabadoshi
05-16-2017, 07:01 PM
With regards to your y-HG, R-L266:

• R2 M479/PF6107, L266/PF6108, L722, L726

It is more commonly called R2.

[https://isogg.org/tree/2016/ISOGG_HapgrpR16.html]

Reza
05-16-2017, 07:18 PM
Harappa World Results:

http://i.imgur.com/xWWtTZ5.png



Quite similar to my Pakistani friend's results.

Population
S-Indian 32.77
Baloch 39.68
Caucasian 13.35
NE-Euro 7.60
SE-Asian 0.96
Siberian 0.64
NE-Asian 1.18
Papuan 0.39
American 0.72
Beringian 1.01
Mediterranean -
SW-Asian 1.69
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -
Oracle
Oracle-4

His Dad is from azad kashmir, mum from Faislabad.

noman
05-16-2017, 08:56 PM
With regards to your y-HG, R-L266:

R2 M479/PF6107, L266/PF6108, L722, L726

It is more commonly called R2.

[https://isogg.org/tree/2016/ISOGG_HapgrpR16.html]

Thank you! A couple of people told me that so far.

noman
05-16-2017, 08:57 PM
Quite similar to my Pakistani friend's results.

Population
S-Indian 32.77
Baloch 39.68
Caucasian 13.35
NE-Euro 7.60
SE-Asian 0.96
Siberian 0.64
NE-Asian 1.18
Papuan 0.39
American 0.72
Beringian 1.01
Mediterranean -
SW-Asian 1.69
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -
Oracle
Oracle-4

His Dad is from azad kashmir, mum from Faislabad.

WOW! This is so similar. Thanks for sharing.

bol_nat
05-16-2017, 09:14 PM
mine, I'm from Kharian/Gujrat

HarappaWorld Oracle results:

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 40.75
2 S-Indian 31.24
3 Caucasian 12.19
4 NE-Euro 7.83
5 Beringian 2.45
6 Mediterranean 1.89
7 Papuan 1.47
8 SW-Asian 1.37
9 SE-Asian 0.33
10 Siberian 0.26
11 NE-Asian 0.18
12 American 0.04

khanabadoshi
05-17-2017, 12:17 AM
I've been slowly tabulating Eurogenes K36 results for an eventual PCA, which I may or may not make. The actual point being: I have a pretty decent sized list of results that you can compare yourself to.

I've highlighted you in black with white font. Should be easy to find. You can sort the table however you like.

Here is the link (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ylJhPGzRu3QrM6fznKH-KSnYfO6P8MXQFR_MJUeZFtY/edit?usp=sharing) to the spreadsheet.

noman
05-17-2017, 05:46 AM
I've been slowly tabulating Eurogenes K36 results for an eventual PCA, which I may or may not make. The actual point being: I have a pretty decent sized list of results that you can compare yourself to.

I've highlighted you in black with white font. Should be easy to find. You can sort the table however you like.

Here is the link (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ylJhPGzRu3QrM6fznKH-KSnYfO6P8MXQFR_MJUeZFtY/edit?usp=sharing) to the spreadsheet.

Really appreciate it. Thank you so much!

noman
05-18-2017, 11:20 PM
FTDNA Results:

http://i.imgur.com/rAFgYeE.png

pegasus
06-03-2017, 08:52 PM
Interesting both your Ydna and Mtdna are exactly like Iran_N/Zagrosian farmers, talk about continuity.

noman
06-03-2017, 11:45 PM
Interesting both your Ydna and Mtdna are exactly like Iran_N/Zagrosian farmers, talk about continuity.

Haaa ... :party: I am still looking for my family tree.

Gandhara
06-04-2017, 11:45 AM
The biggest flaw with this " Harrapa Calculator " is almost all Pakistani ethnic groups ( PUnjabies, Pathans., Sindhies, Urdu Speakers, Other Northern Indians and even Bengalies) are showing up as " Balochs".

Major flaw ! and it is like saying :

Blue eyes found @ 65% percent in population A ( Baloch)
Blue eyes found @ 30 %percent in population B (Punjabi)
Blue eyes found @ 20% percent in Population C (Sindi)
Blue eyes found @ 10 % percent in Population D (Bengali)

So the Harappa Calculator assumes that anybody with Blue eyes will be a Baloch because they are found in highest percentage in the balochs. The fact remains that " blue eyes" can be found in other populations too and labelling them as 20 % Baloch, 30 % Baloch will be very erroneous assumption.

noman
06-04-2017, 05:12 PM
The biggest flaw with this " Harrapa Calculator " is almost all Pakistani ethnic groups ( PUnjabies, Pathans., Sindhies, Urdu Speakers, Other Northern Indians and even Bengalies) are showing up as " Balochs".

Major flaw ! and it is like saying :

Blue eyes found @ 65% percent in population A ( Baloch)
Blue eyes found @ 30 %percent in population B (Punjabi)
Blue eyes found @ 20% percent in Population C (Sindi)
Blue eyes found @ 10 % percent in Population D (Bengali)

So the Harappa Calculator assumes that anybody with Blue eyes will be a Baloch because they are found in highest percentage in the balochs. The fact remains that " blue eyes" can be found in other populations too and labelling them as 20 % Baloch, 30 % Baloch will be very erroneous assumption.

Good catch! Yeah! It shows me 41% Baloch and 34% South Indian. I don't think I am this much. I have gone through the 23andme, My Heritage, FTDNA, and WeGene. I have rejected these theories that my ancestors came from somewhere. We were just nomads of the Karakoram (maybe Himalaya) mountain ranges.

MonkeyDLuffy
06-04-2017, 11:28 PM
The biggest flaw with this " Harrapa Calculator " is almost all Pakistani ethnic groups ( PUnjabies, Pathans., Sindhies, Urdu Speakers, Other Northern Indians and even Bengalies) are showing up as " Balochs".

Major flaw ! and it is like saying :

Blue eyes found @ 65% percent in population A ( Baloch)
Blue eyes found @ 30 %percent in population B (Punjabi)
Blue eyes found @ 20% percent in Population C (Sindi)
Blue eyes found @ 10 % percent in Population D (Bengali)

So the Harappa Calculator assumes that anybody with Blue eyes will be a Baloch because they are found in highest percentage in the balochs. The fact remains that " blue eyes" can be found in other populations too and labelling them as 20 % Baloch, 30 % Baloch will be very erroneous assumption.

It is not labeling us as ethinic baloch, it is simply mentioning how much %age we share with Balochs. Harrappa calculator is based on modern populations, not ancient populations (ANE K7 and K8). Hence the use of Populations like Baloch, Papuan, Siberian etc.

parasar
06-04-2017, 11:51 PM
The biggest flaw with this " Harrapa Calculator " is almost all Pakistani ethnic groups ( PUnjabies, Pathans., Sindhies, Urdu Speakers, Other Northern Indians and even Bengalies) are showing up as " Balochs".

Major flaw ! and it is like saying :

Blue eyes found @ 65% percent in population A ( Baloch)
Blue eyes found @ 30 %percent in population B (Punjabi)
Blue eyes found @ 20% percent in Population C (Sindi)
Blue eyes found @ 10 % percent in Population D (Bengali)

So the Harappa Calculator assumes that anybody with Blue eyes will be a Baloch because they are found in highest percentage in the balochs. The fact remains that " blue eyes" can be found in other populations too and labelling them as 20 % Baloch, 30 % Baloch will be very erroneous assumption.

Zack puts this clarification:
"Do note that the admixture components do not necessarily represent real ancestral populations. Also, the names I have chosen for the components should be thought of as mnemonics to ease discussion. I chose them based on which populations in my data these components peaked in. They do not tell anything directly about ancestral populations."
http://www.harappadna.org/2014/05/harappaworld-hrp0385-hrp0419/

Gandhara
06-05-2017, 12:08 AM
It is not labeling us as ethinic baloch, it is simply mentioning how much %age we share with Balochs. Harrappa calculator is based on modern populations, not ancient populations (ANE K7 and K8). Hence the use of Populations like Baloch, Papuan, Siberian etc.


Or in other words how much the balochs share the percentage with us ! labelling that sharing percentage component as Baloch gives a false impression to the admixture users in general. He could have given it some generic name for instance South Asian West etc.e etc. That's just my take and the creator has the right to name it whatever he wants !:)


Zack puts this clarification:
"Do note that the admixture components do not necessarily represent real ancestral populations. Also, the names I have chosen for the components should be thought of as mnemonics to ease discussion. I chose them based on which populations in my data these components peaked in. They do not tell anything directly about ancestral populations."
http://www.harappadna.org/2014/05/harappaworld-hrp0385-hrp0419/
Kool, and this is what I tried to discuss too but unfortunately many of us take these percentages literally and start searching for Baloch ancestors and so on. And because of this confusion, which is also there for other admixture calculators many of us actually start believing that we have Baltic, European, Greek etc etc ancestry. Thrilling but misleading !

Kulin
06-05-2017, 02:40 AM
Or in other words how much the balochs share the percentage with us ! labelling that sharing percentage component as Baloch gives a false impression to the admixture users in general. He could have given it some generic name for instance South Asian West etc.e etc. That's just my take and the creator has the right to name it whatever he wants !:)


Kool, and this is what I tried to discuss too but unfortunately many of us take these percentages literally and start searching for Baloch ancestors and so on. And because of this confusion, which is also there for other admixture calculators many of us actually start believing that we have Baltic, European, Greek etc etc ancestry. Thrilling but misleading !


Calling it Gedrosian would've sufficed as well lol.