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Gandhara
06-20-2017, 01:46 AM
Sharing my Cautious results from living DNA

https://i.gyazo.com/70b9aead4cf5b022301056049b72143c.png

Gandhara
06-20-2017, 01:47 AM
Complete with everything assigned but with lesser accuracy :

https://i.gyazo.com/ee513d09fdadf4aaf7c06f7cafcd5152.png

JMcB
06-20-2017, 02:51 AM
Complete with everything assigned but with lesser accuracy :

https://i.gyazo.com/ee513d09fdadf4aaf7c06f7cafcd5152.png

Hello Gandhara,

Would you mind showing your results with the maps? It would be nice to see those, too.

Gandhara
06-20-2017, 03:07 AM
https://i.gyazo.com/2912b5871ac96becc77b89215584dcd2.png

MonkeyDLuffy
06-20-2017, 05:24 AM
Does living dna works with gedmatch?

Gandhara
06-20-2017, 10:05 AM
Does living dna works with gedmatch?

No , not at the moment. Overhead that ultimately it would.

06-20-2017, 10:11 AM
Does living dna works with gedmatch?

Hey MonkeyDLuffy, Gedmatch is updating its site, its got a Beta version of Gedmatch Genesis
https://genesis.gedmatch.com/login1.php
Here you can upload your downloaded LDNA .vcf file.
IN July LDNA will update their download for what they say is a better format for .txt
GedMatch will merge their new Genesis site to the Main GedMatch site eventually after Beta trials.

jortita
06-20-2017, 12:20 PM
On gedmatch genesis you can run admixture calculator, however genotyping rates are very low. Some of my results are quite different from ancestry dna, ftdna and my heritage dna. Will wait for the text file as genotyping might be similar

khanabadoshi
06-20-2017, 12:42 PM
Cool, didn't know it was updated.

STANDARD

https://i.gyazo.com/76832e9f9000dc7912ee1fddcc981028.png

COMPLETE
https://i.gyazo.com/f092fd381eb2441420fe1bbf9a92187b.png


CAUTIOUS
https://i.gyazo.com/8365377432f62dbbfd69e319abd4c5fc.png

My Cautious categories are different; Indian subcontinent-related ancestry v. Asia (South)? Based on what they shaded blue on the map to represent that, it seems something is off?

Gandhara
06-20-2017, 10:27 PM
Cool, didn't know it was updated.

STANDARD



COMPLETE



CAUTIOUSMy Cautious categories are different; Indian subcontinent-related ancestry v. Asia (South)? Based on what they shaded blue on the map to represent that, it seems something is off?

Interesting , my blaoch is blue and yours is green. One explanation could be that the highest allocation gets the blue color and second highest as green. I wonder why is it called Baloch? every Pakistani irrespective of being Punjabi, Seraiki, Pathan will show up as a Baloch. I only wish that there is a calculator which can give a break down like :
Baloch, Sindi, Punjabi, Tamil, Pathan and so on.....

khanabadoshi
06-20-2017, 11:43 PM
Interesting , my blaoch is blue and yours is green. One explanation could be that the highest allocation gets the blue color and second highest as green. I wonder why is it called Baloch? every Pakistani irrespective of being Punjabi, Seraiki, Pathan will show up as a Baloch. I only wish that there is a calculator which can give a break down like :
Baloch, Sindi, Punjabi, Tamil, Pathan and so on.....

EDIT: Added maps

Also, in comparing our COMPLETE Maps, your "Asia South" includes Balochistan, mines doesn't; your "Near East" includes much of Turkey, mine's doesn't.
Do you mind posting your other maps?

I wonder why "Indian Subcontinent-related" includes almost all of Central Asia, and why they chose to use this category for me, instead of Asia (South) as they did for you -- that makes much more sense.

Also they do have a breakdown. Click the + sign next to GLOBAL; it will change to REGIONAL.


STANDARD; regional

https://i.gyazo.com/0b918e7e723adb70436ae61c2f3fb5a3.pnghttps://i.gyazo.com/1306d3764cd7ede3ff61890c5435c8ed.png


COMPLETE; regional

https://i.gyazo.com/780f1c9c4a8367222b26bcde136ba6db.pnghttps://i.gyazo.com/5fcb82cc366b595a0cec1006769aa628.png

They don't seem to have it for CAUTIOUS yet.

Gandhara
06-20-2017, 11:58 PM
My Standard Regional !

https://i.gyazo.com/8ab86d2727560592d94ffee6092f3c93.png


Complete Regional

https://i.gyazo.com/9d3a22ecf8aac34c7352306d0f7c26d8.png
https://i.gyazo.com/bf26e42bcd122400e20e635b4f6d0769.png

khanabadoshi
06-21-2017, 12:31 AM
Does living dna works with gedmatch?

Yeah. Did a little comparison for ya. So far it seems to have some significant differences. I can check on other calculators if you like.


HarappaWorld



POPULATON
S-Indian
Baloch
Caucasian
NE-Euro
SE-Asian
Siberian
NE-Asian
Papuan
American
Beringian
Mediterranean
SW-Asian
San
E-African
Pygmy
W-African


khanabadoshi (23andme)
28.14
38.06
16.17
8.15
0
4.04
1.01
1.17
0
0
0.78
2.12
0.07
0
0
0.24


khanabadoshi (FTDNA Geno 2.0)
27.81
38.11
16.42
7.93
0.6
3.88
0.94
1.22
0
0
0.61
2.29
0.2
0
0
0


khanabadoshi (FTDNA NexGen)
27.79
38.11
16.44
7.95
0.62
3.9
0.93
1.13
0
0
0.64
2.32
0.18
0
0
0


khanabadoshi (LivingDNA)
28.49
36.17
19.06
6.73
0.66
3.93
1.62
0
0.68
0
0.1
2.55
0
0
0
0





puntDNAL K13



POPULATION
West_Asia
NE_Europe
Americas
Siberia
Oceania
South_Asia
NE_Asia
East_Africa
SE_Asia
SW_Europe
SW_Asia
West_Africa
South_Africa


khanabadoshi (23andme)
39.74
11.74
0.6
2.82
1.86
32.16
1.36
0.14
0.38
4.59
2.97
1.42
0.21


khanabadoshi (FTDNA)
39.77
11.64
0.58
2.81
1.86
32.14
1.39
0.12
0.48
4.55
2.99
1.48
0.17


khanabadoshi (LivingDNA)
38.49
10.17
2.12
1.55
0.88
32.59
3.53
0
0
6.17
3.52
0.98
0




puntDNAL K13 ORACLE DIFFERENCE

LIVING DNA

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
West_Asia
38.49


2
South_Asia
32.59


3
NE_Europe
10.17


4
SW_Europe
6.17


5
NE_Asia
3.53


6
SW_Asia
3.52


7
Americas
2.12


8
Siberia
1.55




Finished reading population data. 191 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sindhi @ 5.665981
2 Burusho @ 7.630459
3 Kashmir_Pandit @ 8.826593
4 Punjabi @ 9.290784
5 Pathan @ 10.809972
6 Pakistan_Pashtun @ 10.851761
7 Balochi @ 11.531583
8 Brahui @ 12.370261
9 Makrani @ 12.689305
10 Afghan_Pashtun @ 14.097754
11 Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 20.298246
12 Tadjik @ 22.827394
13 Bengali @ 22.922031
14 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 25.317678
15 Velamas @ 27.426729
16 Romani @ 29.060316
17 UP_Muslim @ 30.477915
18 Iranian @ 30.571589
19 Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 30.625999
20 Kurumba @ 31.411062

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Burusho +50% Sindhi @ 3.041988


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Balochi +25% Bengali +25% Burusho @ 2.517462


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
1 Balochi + Balochi + Bengali + Burusho @ 2.517462
2 Bengali + Burusho + Iranian + Punjabi @ 2.567776
3 Afghan_Uzbeki + Balochi + Balochi + UP_Muslim @ 2.599928
4 Bengali + Brahui + Burusho + Pakistan_Pashtun @ 2.630553
5 Afghan_Pashtun + Bengali + Brahui + Burusho @ 2.644342
6 Burusho + Dagestan_Azeri + Kurumba + Punjabi @ 2.645614
7 Burusho + Dagestan_Azeri + Kashmir_Pandit + Velamas @ 2.649084
8 Afghan_Uzbeki + Balochi + Brahui + UP_Muslim @ 2.659541
9 Afghan_Uzbeki + Balochi + Makrani + UP_Muslim @ 2.663537
10 Afghan_Uzbeki + Balochi + Sindhi + Velamas @ 2.674518
11 Bengali + Brahui + Sindhi + Tadjik @ 2.687021
12 Balochi + Bengali + Burusho + Pathan @ 2.692601
13 Burusho + Dagestan_Azeri + Punjabi + Velamas @ 2.695021
14 Bengali + Brahui + Burusho + Pathan @ 2.708234
15 Balochi + Bengali + Burusho + Pakistan_Pashtun @ 2.723174
16 Burusho + Dagestan_Azeri + Punjabi + Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 2.731211
17 Abkhasian + Burusho + Punjabi + UP_Muslim @ 2.754471
18 Brahui + Burusho + Kurumba + Tadjik @ 2.782491
19 Bengali + Burusho + Makrani + Pakistan_Pashtun @ 2.785109
20 Brahui + Sindhi + Tadjik + UP_Muslim @ 2.791833

Done.

Elapsed time 0.1646 seconds.


23andMe


puntDNAL K13 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):



#
Population
Percent


1
West_Asia
39.74


2
South_Asia
32.16


3
NE_Europe
11.74


4
SW_Europe
4.59


5
SW_Asia
2.97


6
Siberia
2.82


7
Oceania
1.86


8
West_Africa
1.42


9
NE_Asia
1.36




Finished reading population data. 191 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sindhi @ 5.785868
2 Punjabi @ 7.491513
3 Burusho @ 7.854613
4 Kashmir_Pandit @ 8.255017
5 Pakistan_Pashtun @ 9.527905
6 Pathan @ 9.556846
7 Balochi @ 10.963717
8 Makrani @ 11.739264
9 Brahui @ 11.951987
10 Afghan_Pashtun @ 12.956668
11 Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 20.764664
12 Tadjik @ 22.376238
13 Bengali @ 24.033867
14 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 25.925314
15 Velamas @ 28.105495
16 Romani @ 29.964272
17 Iranian @ 30.862240
18 UP_Muslim @ 31.396427
19 Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 31.621189
20 Kurumba @ 32.298874

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kashmir_Pandit +50% Pathan @ 3.404441


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Afghan_Pashtun +25% Kurumba +25% Pathan @ 2.454876


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Makrani + Punjabi + Tadjik + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 1.851212
2 Afghan_Pashtun + Burusho + Makrani + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 1.880254
3 Burusho + Makrani + Pakistan_Pashtun + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 1.970818
4 Afghan_Pashtun + Kurumba + Pathan + Pathan @ 2.261017
5 Burusho + Makrani + Pathan + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.273938
6 Brahui + Punjabi + Tadjik + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.293873
7 Bengali + Makrani + Pakistan_Pashtun + Pakistan_Pashtun @ 2.317874
8 Burusho + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Sindhi @ 2.343473
9 Afghan_Pashtun + Balochi + Burusho + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.344899
10 Makrani + Punjabi + Tadjik + Velamas @ 2.347997
11 Afghan_Pashtun + Brahui + Burusho + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.365387
12 Balochi + Punjabi + Tadjik + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.404257
13 Pakistan_Pashtun + Pathan + Pathan + Velamas @ 2.411839
14 Balochi + Burusho + Pathan + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.423028
15 Afghan_Pashtun + Pathan + Pathan + Velamas @ 2.428935
16 Bengali + Makrani + Pakistan_Pashtun + Pathan @ 2.441174
17 Afghan_Pashtun + Kurumba + Pakistan_Pashtun + Pathan @ 2.443829
18 Afghan_Pashtun + Afghan_Pashtun + Kurumba + Pathan @ 2.454876
19 Afghan_Pashtun + Afghan_Pashtun + Makrani + UP_Muslim @ 2.463933
20 Balochi + Burusho + Pakistan_Pashtun + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.471689

Done.

Elapsed time 0.1618 seconds.

JohnHowellsTyrfro
06-21-2017, 05:05 AM
Interesting , my blaoch is blue and yours is green. One explanation could be that the highest allocation gets the blue color and second highest as green. I wonder why is it called Baloch? every Pakistani irrespective of being Punjabi, Seraiki, Pathan will show up as a Baloch. I only wish that there is a calculator which can give a break down like :
Baloch, Sindi, Punjabi, Tamil, Pathan and so on.....

I'm European British (as far as I know) and I get NW Pakistan region on various tests and calculators which have been labelled Baloch, Kalash or Burusho. Although I'm no expert, the common population theme in relation to these descriptions seems to be ancient similar ancestry. My guess would be they are using what they think is the "closest" population label. John

heksindhi
06-21-2017, 11:17 PM
Finished reading population data. 191 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sindhi 5.665981



I always find it fascinating when people score closer to Sindhi than I do, given that I am full-blooded Sindhi.

I guess we really need more samples so the population averages truly reflect the full spectrum. I've sent out a few kits to relatives so hopefully I'll be able to add to the data set of Sindhi samples.

khanabadoshi
06-22-2017, 06:07 AM
I always find it fascinating when people score closer to Sindhi

I've acquired a pretty large set of Sindhis. I've included you as well. I'll make new oracles specific for S/SC/C/W Asia for a few calculators.
BTW, I'm from Southern Punjab, so I expect to be close to Sindhi, and may in fact be Sindhi instead of Baloch, who knows?

It is interesting I am closer than you in distance, seems Makrani has a strong pull on you.



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sindhi @ 7.518440
2 Makrani @ 8.257415
3 Punjabi @ 8.969424
4 Balochi @ 9.243897
5 Brahui @ 9.663775
6 Pathan @ 9.780174
7 Pakistan_Pashtun @ 11.202777
8 Burusho @ 11.841475
9 Kashmir_Pandit @ 11.877460
10 Afghan_Pashtun @ 13.987957
11 Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 23.317011
12 Tadjik @ 24.442430
13 Bengali @ 27.074539
14 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 28.050028
15 Velamas @ 29.918901
16 Iranian @ 30.320637
17 Dagestan_Azeri @ 33.849152
18 Romani @ 33.975269
19 Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 34.071159
20 UP_Muslim @ 34.085182

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Makrani +50% Punjabi @ 3.115381


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Makrani +25% Punjabi +25% Punjabi @ 3.115381


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Makrani + Makrani + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 3.115381
2 Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Makrani + Punjabi @ 3.407771
3 Burusho + Makrani + Makrani + Punjabi @ 3.422976
4 Balochi + Makrani + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 3.788651
5 Brahui + Makrani + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 3.805386
6 Makrani + Pathan + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 3.857963
7 Makrani + Makrani + Punjabi + Sindhi @ 3.930858
8 Brahui + Burusho + Makrani + Punjabi @ 4.023171
9 Brahui + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Punjabi @ 4.069604
10 Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Makrani @ 4.131650
11 Burusho + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Makrani @ 4.134383
12 Makrani + Makrani + Pathan + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 4.136143
13 Balochi + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Punjabi @ 4.157242
14 Balochi + Burusho + Makrani + Punjabi @ 4.167138
15 Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Makrani + Sindhi @ 4.211277
16 Makrani + Pathan + Punjabi + Sindhi @ 4.304413
17 Afghan_Pashtun + Makrani + Makrani + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 4.470158
18 Makrani + Makrani + Makrani + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 4.473964
19 Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Pathan + Punjabi @ 4.481605
20 Makrani + Pakistan_Pashtun + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 4.482200

Done.



You are SINDHI 4 in all my data sets.

puntDNAL K13 Global



POPULATION
West_Asia
NE_Europe
Americas
Siberia
Oceania
South_Asia
NE_Asia
East_Africa
SE_Asia
SW_Europe
SW_Asia
West_Africa
South_Africa





SINDHI 1
45.4
8.28
0.95
0.11
0.78
36.01
0
1.31
0
0
2.7
3.88
0.59


SINDHI 2
43.72
6.44
0.98
2.33
0.19
36.99
0
1.67
0.49
1.3
2.92
2.68
0.28


SINDHI 3
43.7
8.42
0.29
2.04
0.42
38.43
0.84
0
0
0.71
3.26
0.95
0.92


SINDHI 4
44.27
11.03
1.01
0.36
0
31.19
2.16
0.97
0
1.86
4.38
2.46
0.31


PAKISTAN; SINDHI
44.2725
8.5425
0.8075
1.21
0.3475
35.655
0.75
0.9875
0.1225
0.9675
3.315
2.4925
0.525


SINDHI HINDU 1
41
13.85
0.94
1.26
1.36
33.25
1.48
0.4
0
2.47
3.12
0.49
0.38


SINDHI HINDU 2
41.4
13.75
1.69
2.58
0.67
32.67
0
0.11
0
3.92
1.52
1.4
0.3


SINDHI HINDU 3
40.29
14.57
1.3
2.4
0.78
35.11
0
0.06
0.14
1.38
2.98
0.7
0.29


SINDHI HINDU 4
42.23
12.61
1.8
1.35
0.43
33.52
0
1.53
0.68
2.49
2.9
0.3
0.16


SINDHI HINDU 5
41.75
12.4
2.46
1.34
0.24
33.53
0
0.06
0.55
5.25
1.38
0.4
0.64


SINDHI HINDU 6
40.53
14.54
2.46
1.44
0.7
33.45
1.02
0
0
2.39
1.78
1.52
0.16


PAKISTAN/INDIA; SINDHI HINDU
41.2
13.62
1.775
1.728333333
0.696666667
33.58833333
0.416666667
0.36
0.228333333
2.983333333
2.28
0.801666667
0.321666667



HarappaWorld


COUNTRY
STATE/PROVINCE
CITY/TOWN
y-DNA
mtDNA
POPULATON
S-Indian
Baloch
Caucasian
NE-Euro
SE-Asian
Siberian
NE-Asian
Papuan
American
Beringian
Mediterranean
SW-Asian
San
E-African
Pygmy
W-African





PAKISTAN
SINDH



PK; SINDH - SINDHI 1
27.71
49.19
7.12
3.75
0
0.72
0
0.91
0
0
1.29
4.18
0.15
1.27
0
3.69


PAKISTAN
SINDH



PK; SINDH - SINDHI 2
29.18
47.77
7.47
3.16
0.18
1.52
0.24
0
0.18
0.74
1.9
4.09
0.55
0.79
0
2.22


PAKISTAN
SINDH



PK; SINDH - SINDHI 3
32.18
44.99
10.13
3.8
0.65
0.42
0.51
0
0.12
0.58
1.73
4.05
0
0
0.23
0.58


PAKISTAN
SINDH

L3*
M3
PK; SINDH - SINDHI 4
23.85
47.01
13.23
5.68
0.22
0
1.11
0
0.37
1.15
0
4.9
0
0
0
2.48


PAKISTAN
SINDH
Karachi
H1a2
M3a1
PK; SINDH - Maheshwari?? [Ladha]
26.74
33.19
15.27
7.6
0
0.74
0.62
0.31
1.35
0.84
1.4
3.53
0
3.95
0.77
3.69


PAKISTAN
SINDH



PK; SINDH - HINDU [Israni]
29.15
40.35
14.99
9.67
0.1
1.69
0
0.98
0.6
0.44
0
2.03
0
0
0
0


PAKISTAN
SINDH

J2b2*
U2
PK; SINDH - HINDU [Ramchandani]
27.69
40.47
16.94
10.09
0
0.64
0
0
1.19
1.53
0.24
1.18
0
0
0
0


PAKISTAN
SINDH



PK; SINDH - HINDU [Panjwani]
30.26
38.24
14.49
9.7
0
1.77
0.32
0.76
1.23
0.79
0
2.44
0
0
0
0


PAKISTAN
SINDH

R1a1a
M3a1
PK; SINDH - HINDU [Motwani]
28.21
41.05
15.59
8.95
0
1.52
0
0.25
1.14
0.41
0
2.56
0.32
0
0
0


PAKISTAN
SINDH
Thatta


PK; SINDH, Thatta - HINDU [Megchiani]
27.69
42.43
15.91
8.74
0
0.79
0.68
0.05
1.42
0.62
0.95
0.71
0
0
0
0


PAKISTAN
SINDH

R1a1a
U7
PK; SINDH - HINDU [Khetpal]
29.07
40.51
13.16
11.39
0
0.07
0.94
0.53
1.7
1.15
0.81
0.57
0
0
0
0.1


PAKISTAN
SINDH

R1a1a
H7
PK; SINDH - HINDU [Lalwani]
27.63
39.12
18.13
9.94
0
0
0
0.97
1.9
0
0
2.17
0
0
0
0.14

khanabadoshi
06-22-2017, 06:19 AM
SINDHI 1/2/3 are HGDP Sindhi -- most likely the SINDHI average is based on them. Their South Asian score is more than yours or the Sindhi Hindus, which is why I think you score Sindhi at a greater distance.

For comparison my Uncle's oracles (he is half Kashmiri) is more similar to yours:


pUncle - jam
43.07
12.83
1.16
1.61
1.53
31.19
0.49
0
1.27
0.5
4.09
2.01
0.26




Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Punjabi @ 7.895193
2 Sindhi @ 8.340158
3 Pathan @ 9.849917
4 Makrani @ 9.924375
5 Kashmir_Pandit @ 10.657186
6 Pakistan_Pashtun @ 10.894261
7 Balochi @ 10.962611
8 Burusho @ 11.163889
9 Brahui @ 11.603999
10 Afghan_Pashtun @ 13.567185
11 Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 22.914452
12 Tadjik @ 23.845121
13 Bengali @ 26.649986
14 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 27.988207
15 Velamas @ 29.884382
16 Iranian @ 31.436491
17 Romani @ 33.691704
18 UP_Muslim @ 33.775776
19 Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 33.889072
20 Dagestan_Azeri @ 34.479404

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Makrani +50% Punjabi @ 3.972107


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Makrani +25% Punjabi +25% Punjabi @ 3.972107


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Makrani + Pathan + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 3.704910
2 Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Makrani + Punjabi @ 3.938567
3 Makrani + Makrani + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 3.972107
4 Afghan_Pashtun + Makrani + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 4.041031
5 Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Pathan + Punjabi @ 4.075772
6 Makrani + Pakistan_Pashtun + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 4.107625
7 Burusho + Makrani + Makrani + Punjabi @ 4.295980
8 Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Makrani @ 4.311357
9 Burusho + Makrani + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 4.322043
10 Afghan_Pashtun + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Punjabi @ 4.533502
11 Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Pakistan_Pashtun + Punjabi @ 4.588389
12 Balochi + Makrani + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 4.645871
13 Burusho + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Makrani @ 4.647382
14 Pathan + Pathan + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 4.657470
15 Balochi + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Punjabi @ 4.710366
16 Brahui + Pathan + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 4.744297
17 Balochi + Pathan + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 4.744937
18 Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Pathan @ 4.779930
19 Makrani + Punjabi + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 4.781404
20 Brahui + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Punjabi @ 4.806514


Here is Megchiani Sindhi Hindu from Thatta:


SINDHI HINDU 5
41.75
12.4
2.46
1.34
0.24
33.53
0
0.06
0.55
5.25
1.38
0.4
0.64




Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sindhi @ 5.953458
2 Punjabi @ 6.301489
3 Kashmir_Pandit @ 7.595245
4 Pakistan_Pashtun @ 10.167665
5 Burusho @ 10.378879
6 Pathan @ 10.849153
7 Balochi @ 10.877350
8 Brahui @ 11.848156
9 Makrani @ 12.337580
10 Afghan_Pashtun @ 13.749274
11 Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 20.378532
12 Tadjik @ 24.044683
13 Bengali @ 24.457327
14 Velamas @ 27.712072
15 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 28.436274
16 UP_Muslim @ 31.305840
17 Romani @ 31.346659
18 Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 31.752928
19 Iranian @ 32.003365
20 Kurumba @ 32.107098

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Balochi +50% Kashmir_Pandit @ 2.850411


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Balochi +25% Kashmir_Pandit +25% Kashmir_Pandit @ 2.850411


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
1 Brahui + Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit + Pakistan_Pashtun @ 2.803701
2 Balochi + Balochi + Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit @ 2.850411
3 Balochi + Kashmir_Pandit + Pakistan_Pashtun + Punjabi @ 2.881172
4 Balochi + Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit + Pakistan_Pashtun @ 2.900056
5 Afghan_Pashtun + Balochi + Punjabi + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.924791
6 Brahui + Kashmir_Pandit + Pakistan_Pashtun + Punjabi @ 2.933903
7 Pakistan_Pashtun + Punjabi + Punjabi + Sindhi @ 2.978765
8 Kashmir_Pandit + Pakistan_Pashtun + Punjabi + Sindhi @ 3.001226
9 Afghan_Pashtun + Punjabi + Punjabi + Sindhi @ 3.077780
10 Balochi + Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit + Sindhi @ 3.100066
11 Balochi + Kashmir_Pandit + Punjabi + Sindhi @ 3.107842
12 Balochi + Brahui + Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit @ 3.108001
13 Afghan_Pashtun + Kashmir_Pandit + Punjabi + Sindhi @ 3.126223
14 Balochi + Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit + Punjabi @ 3.140613
15 Afghan_Pashtun + Brahui + Punjabi + Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 3.147982
16 Chechen + Punjabi + Punjabi + Velamas @ 3.189636
17 Balochi + Kashmir_Pandit + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 3.196892
18 Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit + Makrani + Pakistan_Pashtun @ 3.197010
19 Balochi + Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit + Pathan @ 3.200045
20 Brahui + Kashmir_Pandit + Kashmir_Pandit + Pathan @ 3.206285

heksindhi
06-22-2017, 02:09 PM
I've acquired a pretty large set of Sindhis. I've included you as well. I'll make new oracles specific for S/SC/C/W Asia for a few calculators.
BTW, I'm from Southern Punjab, so I expect to be close to Sindhi, and may in fact be Sindhi instead of Baloch, who knows?

It is interesting I am closer than you in distance, seems Makrani has a strong pull on you.



That makes sense. My thinking is that geography trumps other factors in determining the admixture components. Sindhis, in general, appear to be fairly homogeneous. The differences that do exist can be attributed to geographical affinities. I don't yet have samples from my relatives to verify this, but my bet is that my maternal relatives will be similar to others from Shikarpur, including Shikarpuri Hindus. My paternal relatives, on the other hand, should be closer to Makranis given that they're from Lasbela which is right next to Makran.