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J Man
07-14-2013, 04:23 PM
This is an interesting analysis that Dienekes carried out last year where he seems to think that the North/East Eurasian ancestry that is shared between Europeans and Native Americans can be tracked using ADMIXTURE at K=4. He calls this analysis globe4. In this he shows that most Europeans especially Northern Europeans show some Amerindian type admixture. This Amerindian admixture is obviously some very ancient type of ancestry that both present day Europeans and Native Americans share together. He released the calculator files for this analysis as well so we can post our results here and compare if you wish. Here are mine below.

90.08% European
1.13% Asian
0.22% African
8.57% Amerindian

http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2012/10/admixture-tracks-amerindian-like.html

J Peregrine
10-26-2015, 11:53 PM
This is an interesting analysis that Dienekes carried out last year where he seems to think that the North/East Eurasian ancestry that is shared between Europeans and Native Americans can be tracked using ADMIXTURE at K=4 [etc]...

http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2012/10/admixture-tracks-amerindian-like.html

I prefer to make as few assumptions as possible, and am not conceding every diffusionist claim that has been proposed @ anthrogenica, however, there is some persuasive circumstantial evidence from pathology, botany, and even zoology for trans-oceanic diffusion:

Sorenson, John L. and Carl L. Johannessen
"Scientific Evidence for Pre-Columbian Transoceanic Voyages," Sino-Platonic Papers, n.133, April, 2004
http://www.sino-platonic.org/complete/spp133_precolumbian_voyages.pdf

Stephen1986
10-27-2015, 11:26 AM
Here's my results that I posted in 2012 on ForumBiodiversity -

92.87% European (British average 92.7%, Irish average 92.4%, English average 93.1%)
7.13% Amerindian (British average 7.3%, Irish average 7.6%, English average 6.9%)
0.01% Asian (0% for all three averages)
0.00% African (0% for all three averages)

And my brother -

92.68% European
7.26% Amerindian
0.05% African
0.01% Asian

anglesqueville
10-27-2015, 01:05 PM
It's a strange but nice idea to awaken the old globe4.
Me:
91.13% European
0.00% Asian
0.23% African
8.63% Amerindian
My mother;
91.90% European
0.00% Asian
0.21% African
7.89% Amerindian
For 4 close relatives (one first cousin on my maternal side and his son, one first cousin on my paternal side and his daughter), the amerindian amount is between 8% and 9.35%. All 6 individuals at least 3/4 normand.

randwulf
10-27-2015, 09:47 PM
Interesting calculator. I had just run these last week for a spreadsheet I am building for comparison purposes across the calculators. Here are some results:

Me:

European 92.58
Asian 0.32
African 0.35
Amerindian 6.76

Dad:

European 91.50
Asian 0.88
African 0.39
Amerindian 7.24

Mom:

European 93.31
Asian 0.01
African 0.00
Amerindian 6.68

Wife:

European 92.96
Asian 0.02
African 0.33
Amerindian 6.70

Father-in-law:

European 92.28
Asian 0.01
African 0.73
Amerindian 6.98

AlexRus
10-04-2018, 02:26 PM
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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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88.64% European
0.80% Asian
0.00% African
10.57% Amerindian

:first:

AlexRus
10-04-2018, 02:29 PM
http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2012/10/globe4-calculator.html
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7JDEoCgzRKeY0hPZW5yWlAyUEE/view

Nino90
10-04-2018, 02:38 PM
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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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88.64% European
0.80% Asian
0.00% African
10.57% Amerindian

:first:

Rename it Siberian and its on point.

AlexRus
10-04-2018, 03:23 PM
Rename it Siberian and its on point.What is your result?

In this he shows that most Europeans especially Northern Europeans show some Amerindian type admixture. This Amerindian admixture is obviously some very ancient type of ancestry that both present day Europeans and Native Americans share together.

Nino90
10-04-2018, 04:01 PM
What is your result?

Can you do mine?

AlexRus
10-04-2018, 04:06 PM
Can you do mine?
Only if you give rawdata :)

lukaszM
10-07-2018, 11:11 AM
Me
European 91,51%
Amerindian 8,43%
African 0,05%
Asian 0,01%

michal3141
10-07-2018, 12:19 PM
Me:

90.12% European
0.24% Asian
0.05% African
9.60% Amerindian

PoxVoldius
10-07-2018, 10:12 PM
Me

91.05% European
1.11% Asian
0.58% African
7.27% Amerindian

Dad

90.94% European
0.25% Asian
1.45% African
7.37% Amerindian

Mom

92.52% European
0.40% Asian
0.00% African
7.09% Amerindian