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annalubov
07-09-2017, 01:03 PM
I tested with both companies, to find out more about my ancestry (i was adopted by the way), I tested first with FTDNA with gave consice results being part European (Finnish, British Isles and Eastern Europe), and my matches were from those regions as well. Later on decided test with 23andme, got my results quickly, anyways a big shocker British Isles 0%, Finnish barely 1%???? I did however got Broad European and broad Northwestern Europe, same thing with my matches, many are from British Isles and Finland,for example 3rd, 4th and 5th cousins. All I am trying to do is figure out from where my family came from, however it is just getting more confusing >:(

Tomenable
07-11-2017, 09:26 PM
GEDmatch is probably more reliable. Try using tools for Eurogenes K36:

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10813-Tool-for-K36-your-similarities-rates-on-maps&p=241752&viewfull=1#post241752

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10347-(Unofficial)-oracle-for-Eurogenes-K36-256-reference-populations&p=228045&viewfull=1#post228045

sktibo
07-11-2017, 10:48 PM
the short answer is that 23andme is reliable and ftdna is not. there are plenty of threads on the forum about this so don't take my word for it dig through them..
best of luck

Tomenable
07-11-2017, 11:06 PM
OK, actual discussion is in this thread:

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?11265-germany-dna-ancestry&p=259046&viewfull=1#post259046

mountainguy
07-11-2017, 11:37 PM
I heard 23&me is reliable because they are so 'generalized'. I wouldnt know because I havent tested with them, but I probably will in the near future, just to cover all my bases.

annalubov
07-12-2017, 12:05 AM
the short answer is that 23andme is reliable and ftdna is not. there are plenty of threads on the forum about this so don't take my word for it dig through them..
best of luck

the only thing I find frustrating that I got huge percentage of broad European and unnassigned with 23andme :\

annalubov
07-12-2017, 12:07 AM
I heard 23&me is reliable because they are so 'generalized'. I wouldnt know because I havent tested with them, but I probably will in the near future, just to cover all my bases.

it is good especially when it comes to dna matches, easy to navigate, but unassigned persentage is what I don't like about 23andme.

Mike_G
07-12-2017, 12:11 AM
I heard 23&me is reliable because they are so 'generalized'. I wouldnt know because I havent tested with them, but I probably will in the near future, just to cover all my bases.

I'd recommend it in your case if you have the money. Although I found it the best I did find an anomaly in my German results, which I know you might be interested in. I show 3% German, but my daughter shows almost 10%. Her mom's from the Philippines, so I know she didn't get it from her. Their Broadly Northwestern European can hide a bunch of stuff. In my case I've probably got some Dutch/German and quite possibly English in my 19% Broadly NWE result.

sktibo
07-12-2017, 12:47 AM
the only thing I find frustrating that I got huge percentage of broad European and unnassigned with 23andme :\

Broadly NW European = North Sea, Germanic. IIRC people from Germany often have Broadly NW European as their highest percentage

Solothurn
07-12-2017, 01:26 AM
Hi

If you do have any British, Gedmatch: Dodecad World9 should find it. IMHO :)

I get this in the Oracle, but probably because I am 100% British!

Using 1 population approximation:
1 CEU30 @ 0.852587
2 British @ 1.183340
3 Cornwall @ 1.430362
4 Kent @ 1.527143
5 German @ 1.852902
6 British_Isles @ 1.911440
7 Dutch @ 2.021145
8 Mixed_Germanic @ 2.718150
9 Irish @ 2.895604
10 Argyll @ 2.991222


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU30 +50% CEU30 @ 0.852587


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU30 +25% CEU30 +25% CEU30 @ 0.852587

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British_Isles + CEU30 + CEU30 + CEU30 @ 0.829940


I tested with both companies, to find out more about my ancestry (i was adopted by the way), I tested first with FTDNA with gave consice results being part European (Finnish, British Isles and Eastern Europe), and my matches were from those regions as well. Later on decided test with 23andme, got my results quickly, anyways a big shocker British Isles 0%, Finnish barely 1%???? I did however got Broad European and broad Northwestern Europe, same thing with my matches, many are from British Isles and Finland,for example 3rd, 4th and 5th cousins. All I am trying to do is figure out from where my family came from, however it is just getting more confusing >:(

sktibo
07-12-2017, 01:38 AM
Hi

If you do have any British, Gedmatch: Dodecad World9 should find it. IMHO :)

I get this in the Oracle, but probably because I am 100% British!

Using 1 population approximation:
1 CEU30 @ 0.852587
2 British @ 1.183340
3 Cornwall @ 1.430362
4 Kent @ 1.527143
5 German @ 1.852902
6 British_Isles @ 1.911440
7 Dutch @ 2.021145
8 Mixed_Germanic @ 2.718150
9 Irish @ 2.895604
10 Argyll @ 2.991222


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU30 +50% CEU30 @ 0.852587


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU30 +25% CEU30 +25% CEU30 @ 0.852587

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British_Isles + CEU30 + CEU30 + CEU30 @ 0.829940

I think that calculator is telling you your closest match is Central European, I believe that's what CEU30 is.

Solothurn
07-12-2017, 01:45 AM
Re CEU30:



CEU
Utah Residents (CEPH) with Northern and Western European Ancestry



http://www.internationalgenome.org/faq/which-populations-are-part-your-study

sktibo
07-12-2017, 02:48 AM
Re CEU30:



CEU
Utah Residents (CEPH) with Northern and Western European Ancestry



http://www.internationalgenome.org/faq/which-populations-are-part-your-study

interesting. so people from utah of unspecified north and west European ethnic background

mountainguy
07-12-2017, 04:24 AM
Ive heard the same, and it seems to pop up on mine too (on some of the tests).

greerpalmer
07-12-2017, 03:17 PM
Best thing to do is get both kits on GEDmatch and share your kit#. Some of us are nerds with too much ADD to concentrate on real work and will be willing to help out!

serena297
08-06-2017, 03:40 AM
I hear you. 23andme wasn't exactly all that detailed, for me at least, and FTDNA was close but still very far off. It's kind of hard with these tests because you go down a rabbit hole of trying to piece together a puzzle that just more and more complicated. I've had the whole identity crisis and all lol. I think just try and go with GEDmatch for now and kind of bounce things off of what you do know about your family. The rest is kind of up in the air until something more concrete is there.