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The Saite
07-30-2017, 09:43 PM
I edited that map to match the new distribution of E-V68 clade taking in count the last genetical changes

Studies used in editing
( Trombetta et al 2015 , Sanchez et al 2005 , Abu amero et al 2009 , Cruchiani et al 2007)

Enjoy
URL :
https://ibb.co/fJYzEk

Kurumim
02-08-2018, 01:43 AM
I edited that map to match the new distribution of E-V68 clade taking in count the last genetical changes

Studies used in editing
( Trombetta et al 2015 , Sanchez et al 2005 , Abu amero et al 2009 , Cruchiani et al 2007)

Enjoy
URL :
https://ibb.co/fJYzEk

No iberia?

drobbah
02-08-2018, 02:52 AM
No iberia?

Isn't Iberia predominantly E-M81 in terms of their E1b1b not M78?

Kurumim
02-08-2018, 04:18 AM
Isn't Iberia predominantly E-M81 in terms of their E1b1b not M78?

there are few E-V13s there, youre talking to a galician one :beerchug:
I've also seen some E-M34 there, and some E-V12 although very very rare.

I believe E1b1b1as are around 5%

Tz85
02-08-2018, 07:02 AM
there are few E-V13s there, youre talking to a galician one :beerchug:
I've also seen some E-M34 there, and some E-V12 although very very rare.

I believe E1b1b1as are around 5%

E-V12 in Iberia?

Kurumim
02-08-2018, 12:25 PM
E-V12 in Iberia?

yes, it's very rare, but I've seen 2 people in a group I participate.

this is not it, but you can see some V12 people here too.
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/IberianDNA/default.aspx?section=yresults

Tatmattd
07-12-2018, 03:22 AM
Are there any other Scottish E-V12 out there?

Tz85
07-12-2018, 04:09 AM
Are there any other Scottish E-V12 out there?

No, Because E-V12 is not Scottish. E-V12 is almost exclusively Egyptian. Your ancestor was an Egyptian, who some how arrived in Scotland, before it was Scotland.

Buxoro
12-21-2019, 09:27 PM
E-V13 also exists in Russia. Its not very common among ethnic Russians but among ossetians/tatars.
Me myself is E-V13 from Uzbekistan.
But i guess map considers only high levels of incidence of e1b1b....

Farroukh
12-29-2019, 04:35 PM
Dear Buxoro,
Are you from Bukhara? Did you join E-M35 project?

The Saite
01-01-2020, 02:27 PM
35691

Now A more updated version (1/1/2020)

-- more accurate than the last version
-- new studies have been considered
-- only considered The papers of more than (75 - 100) sample sequenced
-- only considering regions with + 10% frequency

Enjoy !

jof2311
01-02-2020, 10:42 AM
35691

Now A more updated version (1/1/2020)

-- more accurate than the last version
-- new studies have been considered
-- only considered The papers of more than (75 - 100) sample sequenced
-- only considering regions with + 10% frequency

Enjoy !

Thank you,
seems to be from egyptian origines ?

The Saite
01-02-2020, 02:20 PM
it originated in the Eastern Sahara ; in an Upper Egyptian Refugium .
Then expanded in a period that corresponds to the beginning of the humid phase in the area (D’Atanasio et al 2018)

However in the Mesolithic ; it's basal clades were inhabiting the whole North Africa ; as evidenced by Taforalt .
but these people in northwest Africa have extincted in the (Younger Dryas) period .

jof2311
01-02-2020, 06:36 PM
it originated in the Eastern Sahara ; in an Upper Egyptian Refugium .
Then expanded in a period that corresponds to the beginning of the humid phase in the area (D’Atanasio et al 2018)

However in the Mesolithic ; it's basal clades were inhabiting the whole North Africa ; as evidenced by Taforalt .
but these people in northwest Africa have extincted in the (Younger Dryas) period .

How can you be sure that the basal v68 carriers in North Ouest Africa (Taforalt) have extincted , and actual v68>M78 carriers are not their descendants , especially in North africa ?

The Saite
01-04-2020, 10:39 PM
How can you be sure that the basal v68 carriers in North Ouest Africa (Taforalt) have extincted , and actual v68>M78 carriers are not their descendants , especially in North africa ?

The ancient Levant samples also contained E-M78 ; And That would further mean that Natufians harbored the clade as well ,
and since we know for sure that Taforalt individuals can not be predecessors to the Natufians ; but in fact a "Taforalt like" from Africa can rather be suitable in the modeling according to lazardis ; this will lead us right to the "Mushabians".
who were the archaeological forebears of the Natufians , and they came from the Egyptian Nile-valley (as been proposed by the studies)

below is the study link ; regarding the Mushabains

https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/31887680

as for the Iberomauracians ;
their archaeological record disappears suddenly within the "Younger Dryas" period ; they were replaced later after a couple thousands of years with Capsians ; the Taforalt kind of E-M78 is also a basal lineage (not related to the current main branches) .



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Buxoro
01-12-2020, 10:49 AM
Dear Buxoro,
1)Are you from Bukhara? 2)Did you join E-M35 project?
1),2) Yes i am

Buxoro
01-12-2020, 10:57 AM
Dear Buxoro,
Are you from Bukhara? Did you join E-M35 project?
Also it appears that e1b1b and particularly e-v13 is very rare in the central asian region, but not non-existent
Here is mine (mixed with russian) and mine father (Bukharan native) g25 runs using all modern populations:
Target: BuxoroFather_scaled
Distance: 2.7636% / 0.02763583
53.2 Azeri_Turkey
15.6 Brahui
6.8 Eskimo
5.4 Oroqen
4.2 Spanish_Asturias
4.0 Lebbo
3.4 Mari
1.8 Koryak
1.4 Kalash
1.4 Yoruba
0.8 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.8 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh
0.6 Bantu_Kenya
0.6 Nganassan

Target: Buxoro_scaled
Distance: 1.0778% / 0.01077841
30.0 Lithuanian_PZ
23.8 Azeri_Turkey
12.4 Greek_Thrace
7.0 Spanish_Asturias
6.8 Kalash
5.6 Mari
3.0 Balochi
2.4 Koryak
2.0 Lebbo
2.0 Tatar_Lipka
1.4 Eskimo_Chaplin
1.0 Daur
1.0 Eskimo_Sireniki
0.6 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh
0.6 Sengwer
0.2 Bantu_Kenya
0.2 Dinka

Tz85
01-13-2020, 05:38 PM
Egyptian= E-V12

jof2311
01-14-2020, 08:46 PM
And E-V65= ?

Johane Derite
01-15-2020, 03:38 AM
E-V13 also exists in Russia. Its not very common among ethnic Russians but among ossetians/tatars.
Me myself is E-V13 from Uzbekistan.
But i guess map considers only high levels of incidence of e1b1b....


According to this guy E-V13 in Russia is associated with Scandinavian expansion. These chieftains are EV13:

1. Yaroslav Osmomysl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaroslav_Osmomysl

2. Viceroy, leader of the Scandinavian-Slavic squad (Krivichs, Kryvichs, Kryvičư) of a settlement in Bolshevo (tumulus (kurgan) fields 11-12 century), where there was a transit point on Klyazma

LINK: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18717-E-CTS9320-BY4526&p=613766&viewfull=1#post613766

Kelmendasi
01-15-2020, 01:17 PM
According to this guy E-V13 in Russia is associated with Scandinavian expansion. These chieftains are EV13:

1. Yaroslav Osmomysl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaroslav_Osmomysl

2. Viceroy, leader of the Scandinavian-Slavic squad (Krivichs, Kryvichs, Kryvičư) of a settlement in Bolshevo (tumulus (kurgan) fields 11-12 century), where there was a transit point on Klyazma

LINK: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18717-E-CTS9320-BY4526&p=613766&viewfull=1#post613766
Interestingly, sample VK362 from the Viking paper turned out to be E-V13. The sample was from Bogovej, Denmark. ~35% of his admixture was from a Southern European source (labelled as Italian), perhaps this explains the V13.

Johane Derite
01-15-2020, 01:29 PM
Interestingly, sample VK362 from the Viking paper turned out to be E-V13. The sample was from Bogovej, Denmark. ~35% of his admixture was from a Southern European source (labelled as Italian), perhaps this explains the V13.

Interesting, is the Viking Ev13 clade known, or its BAM isnt out yet?

Kelmendasi
01-15-2020, 01:34 PM
Interesting, is the Viking Ev13 clade known, or its BAM isnt out yet?
Not too sure to be honest. Maybe someone tried to run its BAM, but the SNP quality was too low.

Buxoro
01-15-2020, 02:28 PM
According to this guy E-V13 in Russia is associated with Scandinavian expansion. These chieftains are EV13:

1. Yaroslav Osmomysl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaroslav_Osmomysl

2. Viceroy, leader of the Scandinavian-Slavic squad (Krivichs, Kryvichs, Kryvičư) of a settlement in Bolshevo (tumulus (kurgan) fields 11-12 century), where there was a transit point on Klyazma

LINK: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18717-E-CTS9320-BY4526&p=613766&viewfull=1#post613766

Good, but my e-v13 comes from my paternal side which is from Bukhara, Uzbekistan, not my russian side