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Principe
09-07-2017, 11:56 AM
The 3rd addition to the series, is now Calabria's Y dna based off ftdna sample size is much larger than Basilicata and Puglia at 98.

The Frequency goes like this:

G: 24%
J2a: 18%
E: 18%
R1b: 16%
R1a: 8%
J1: 8%
I1: 5%
T: 2%
I2: 1%

For G: There are 8 under G-M406, 2 just at G-M406, 1 G-L14, 1 G-FGC5089, 1 G-M3422, 1 G-M3302 and 2 G-Z6029. There is 4 under G-Z725. 1 G-Z17775, 1 G-CTS11562 (G1), 1 G-U1, 1 G-Z1903, 1 G-L660 and an additional 7 not further tested.

For J2a: We have 2 J-FGC15901, 2 J-L70 , 1 J-Z2177, 1 J-M319, 2 not further tested, 1 J-PF7384, 1 J-L210, 1 J-Z7671, 1 J-FGC9961, 1 J-M67 (not further tested), 1 J-M92, 1 J-SK1336 and 1 J-PH2651.

For E: We have 6 E-V13. 3 E-M84 including 1 E-PF6751. 3 E-V22, 4 E-V12, 1 E-M35 (not further tested) and 1 E-M123 (not further tested).

For R1b: We have 8 at the R-M269 level not really tested. Then 1 R-DF27, 1 R-ZZ12_1, 1 R-CTS7822, 1 R-FGC42003, 1 R-Z150, 1 R-FGC13486, 1 R-CTS10543, and 1 R-PF7562.

For R1a: We have 4 at the R-M198 level not really tested. Then 1 R-CTS3402, 1 R-CTS8816 and 2 R-Z283.

For J1: We have 1 at J-M267 and 1 at J-P58 that are not further tested. Then 2 J-ZS2415, 1 J-L862, 1 J-Z642, 1 J-FGC15941, 1 J-PF4867.

For I1: We have 3 left at I-M253. Then 1 I-CTS1148 and 1 I-A6397.

For T: We have 1 T-L131 and 1 T-L446.

For I2: We have 1 I-P37.

JerryS.
09-07-2017, 12:06 PM
just so I understand this. if a Calabresi man (Y) and a German woman (X) had a daughter, the daughter would get a Calabresi X and a German X marker, then if that daughter had a son with a German man, that son would get a German Y and a Calabresi X marker? and the German Y marker is what follows to the next son?

Principe
09-07-2017, 12:16 PM
just so I understand this. if a Calabresi man (Y) and a German woman (X) had a daughter, the daughter would get a Calabresi X and a German X marker, then if that daughter had a son with a German man, that son would get a German Y and a Calabresi X marker? and the German Y marker is what follows to the next son?

The daughter would pass down the German X as this is her mtdna, the Calabrese X could get passed down but it would be in the autosomal not her mtdna and the son would pass down the German Y, but will carry the Calabrese Y in the autsomal but the only way to find out his Calabrese Nonno's Y would be through a cousin testing his Y.

eolien
09-07-2017, 01:07 PM
I think this is not totally correct, since the daughter will pass a recombined X to her son (i.e. a mixture of both Xs)

Sikeliot
09-07-2017, 03:25 PM
J2 is lower than in Sicily by quite a bit. I am surprised.

Principe
09-07-2017, 04:35 PM
J2 is lower than in Sicily by quite a bit. I am surprised.

Sample size and bias my friend, many academic papers suggest J2 in Calabria is in the mid 20's, this is based off people who tested on ftdna, to me the biggest surprise is the amount of G at 24%!

vettor
09-07-2017, 06:11 PM
Where did you get your samples from?
and did you read the paper from this chart?
http://dienekes.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/y-chromosome-study-of-italy-brisighelli.html

BTW
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0050794

I realise you must be only using modern present day results , but do you think these ancient results have any bearing on the modern

alchemist223
10-16-2020, 04:08 PM
I have confirmed a great-grandparent whose family carried E-V13, and my maternal family very possibly is J-L210.