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jerjes
09-10-2017, 10:30 PM
iam iraqi from the northern part of iraq my haplogroup according to wegene is I2A2a1b (British and Irish gene)!!! is that possible? i am sure that my family from iraq at least in last 400 years.

50.15%Middle Eastern
30.01%Egyptian
13.11%Iranian
7.02%Saudi

30.86%European
16.93%South Asian
2.01%Central Asian
0.05%Others


View Paternal Haplogroup I2a2a1b my maternal haplogroup R0

Haplogroup: Haplogroup I, sister group of Haplogroup J, subclade of haplogroup IJ
Age: 40,000 Years Ago
Region: Europe or East Eurasia
Distribution: Europe, Caucasia and Sardinia. Among which, I1-M253 in Scandinavia, Iceland and North-west Europe; I2-M438 in Armenia, Gerogia and Turkey.
Population: Most Europeans

spruithean
09-10-2017, 11:10 PM
iam iraqi from the northern part of iraq my haplogroup according to wegene is I2A2a1b (British and Irish gene)!!! is that possible? i am sure that my family from iraq at least in last 400 years.

50.15%Middle Eastern
30.01%Egyptian
13.11%Iranian
7.02%Saudi

30.86%European
16.93%South Asian
2.01%Central Asian
0.05%Others


View Paternal Haplogroup I2a2a1b my maternal haplogroup R0

Haplogroup: Haplogroup I, sister group of Haplogroup J, subclade of haplogroup IJ
Age: 40,000 Years Ago
Region: Europe or East Eurasia
Distribution: Europe, Caucasia and Sardinia. Among which, I1-M253 in Scandinavia, Iceland and North-west Europe; I2-M438 in Armenia, Gerogia and Turkey.
Population: Most Europeans

Does WeGene give you a terminal SNP? Or atleast a rough placement? Example being I-M438, or I-M223, etc?

EDIT: Ok I see where I2a2a1b fits in the phylogenetic tree. This would be I2-L701, downstream of I2-CTS616.

This does seem rather odd considering your known heritage... This is worth investigation and perhaps testing with a different company.

LePrieur
01-08-2020, 11:45 PM
I extracted a yDNA prediction from AncestryDNA and I was predicted as I1a. WeGene prediction was I2a, which turned out to be the more accurate one after I had my 23andMe result which determined my subclade as I2-L233, or I2a1c.

I don't know if this is typical for predictions, but this is what happened in my case.

aaronbee2010
01-09-2020, 01:46 AM
iam iraqi from the northern part of iraq my haplogroup according to wegene is I2A2a1b (British and Irish gene)!!! is that possible? i am sure that my family from iraq at least in last 400 years.

50.15%Middle Eastern
30.01%Egyptian
13.11%Iranian
7.02%Saudi

30.86%European
16.93%South Asian
2.01%Central Asian
0.05%Others


View Paternal Haplogroup I2a2a1b my maternal haplogroup R0

Haplogroup: Haplogroup I, sister group of Haplogroup J, subclade of haplogroup IJ
Age: 40,000 Years Ago
Region: Europe or East Eurasia
Distribution: Europe, Caucasia and Sardinia. Among which, I1-M253 in Scandinavia, Iceland and North-west Europe; I2-M438 in Armenia, Gerogia and Turkey.
Population: Most Europeans

Try testing for M438 with YSEQ (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=3550). It costs $18 for the SNP and $6 as a one-off shipping fee. It's the cheapest way of determining if you're I2 or not.

I2-L704 was found in two ancient Indo-Aryan samples from North Pakistan, so we know that Indo-Iranians carried unknown, but probably small numbers of I2. Of course, I don't know if your result is true though.

Did you test with WeGene or did you upload results from another company to them?

artemv
01-09-2020, 09:57 AM
EDIT: Ok I see where I2a2a1b fits in the phylogenetic tree. This would be I2-L701, downstream of I2-CTS616.


At least one I2-L701 from Iraq on y-full.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-S12195/
TMRCA 6800 ybp
Sister branches are found on Sardenia and other Mediterrenean.



I2-L704 was found in two ancient Indo-Aryan samples from North Pakistan, so we know that Indo-Iranians carried unknown, but probably small numbers of I2. Of course, I don't know if your result is true though.

The S12195 branch doesn't look like it's connected to early Indo-Aryans. But who knows, it's anyway very interesting to see what is his branch exactly.

artemv
01-09-2020, 11:26 AM
30.86%European
16.93%South Asian
2.01%Central Asian
0.05%Others

What does this numbers mean? They do not sum up to 100%.
Do the tests give you 30% European?



View Paternal Haplogroup I2a2a1b my maternal haplogroup R0

Haplogroup: Haplogroup I, sister group of Haplogroup J, subclade of haplogroup IJ
Age: 40,000 Years Ago
Region: Europe or East Eurasia
Distribution: Europe, Caucasia and Sardinia. Among which, I1-M253 in Scandinavia, Iceland and North-west Europe; I2-M438 in Armenia, Gerogia and Turkey.
Population: Most Europeans

Do not pay too much attention to such descriptions. They are always written about most common cases and will not mention rare happlogroups like yours.