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Scarlet Ibis
08-08-2013, 10:54 PM
I got this kit, and asked my dad to do a cheek swab sample, because I wanted the data for his R1b U152.



First reference population: British (United Kingdom)
http://oi42.tinypic.com/1zxmszo.jpg

Second reference population: Danish
http://oi39.tinypic.com/hv2tms.jpg


mtDNA: H7
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2z8vw1x.jpg

"BRANCH: H7
AGE: 15,500 5,350 YEARS AGO
LOCATION OF ORIGIN: WEST ASIA
Over time, many from this lineage have traveled into Europe and, in smaller numbers, into South Asia.

Today, this lineage is present most often in Romania, where it is about 7 percent of the population. It is around 5 percent of maternal lineages in Slovakia, Croatia, and Armenia. It is also part of some Jewish Diaspora groups."


Y-DNA: U152
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2l8ak1t.jpg

BRANCH: U152
AGE: 5,500 11,000 YEARS AGO
LOCATION OF ORIGIN: WEST ASIA
From their homeland, members of this lineage have traveled to Europe and North Africa.

Today, this line has its highest frequencies in Belgium (11 percent), Liechtenstein (33 percent), and Switzerland (11 percent). It is 6 to 7 percent of male lineages in France and about 6 percent of male lineages in Germany. Geneticists have found it at trace frequencies of less than 1 percent across West Asia, including in Iraq and Lebanon. Multiple lineages in Jewish Diaspora populations descend from this line.

DMXX
08-09-2013, 02:58 AM
Any ideas about the slightly elevated Mediterranean? F.ex. are there any past whispers of South European ancestry in your father's family?

Scarlet Ibis
08-09-2013, 04:00 AM
Any ideas about the slightly elevated Mediterranean? F.ex. are there any past whispers of South European ancestry in your father's family?


I have no idea, to be honest. My dad does have some minor continental admixture, but I did a little digging around for English results. I hope they don't mind my sharing, but Quotablepatella, and Solothurn both look similar to my dad. Quotablepatella got 37% Mediterranean (http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/42587-Genographic-Project-results?p=1159690&viewfull=1#post1159690), and Solothurn got 37% Mediterranean (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?36-R1b-U-152-Updates-News&p=7900&viewfull=1#post7900). It might be worth noting that Quotablepatella is listed as a relative on 23andme, though.

By the way, didn't you have an issue with your Geno 2.0 admix proportions being more similar to a different population than the top one they gave you on your results page?

newtoboard
08-09-2013, 04:53 PM
I got this kit, and asked my dad to do a cheek swab sample, because I wanted the data for his R1b U152.



First reference population: British (United Kingdom)
http://oi42.tinypic.com/1zxmszo.jpg

Second reference population: Danish
http://oi39.tinypic.com/hv2tms.jpg


mtDNA: H7
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2z8vw1x.jpg

"BRANCH: H7
AGE: 15,500 5,350 YEARS AGO
LOCATION OF ORIGIN: WEST ASIA
Over time, many from this lineage have traveled into Europe and, in smaller numbers, into South Asia.

Today, this lineage is present most often in Romania, where it is about 7 percent of the population. It is around 5 percent of maternal lineages in Slovakia, Croatia, and Armenia. It is also part of some Jewish Diaspora groups."


Y-DNA: U152
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2l8ak1t.jpg

BRANCH: U152
AGE: 5,500 – 11,000 YEARS AGO
LOCATION OF ORIGIN: WEST ASIA
From their homeland, members of this lineage have traveled to Europe and North Africa.

Today, this line has its highest frequencies in Belgium (11 percent), Liechtenstein (33 percent), and Switzerland (11 percent). It is 6 to 7 percent of male lineages in France and about 6 percent of male lineages in Germany. Geneticists have found it at trace frequencies of less than 1 percent across West Asia, including in Iraq and Lebanon. Multiple lineages in Jewish Diaspora populations descend from this line.

Are they serious about putting U152's origins in West Asia or is the location of origin only referring to M269?

Scarlet Ibis
08-10-2013, 09:14 AM
I believe they're referring to m343, actually. I'll post a screen shot of what they said in the results page when I'm not on a tablet.

Solothurn
12-17-2013, 11:09 AM
Hi

Being another Geno U152** you will be looking forward to the 11 ** Big Y results!





I have no idea, to be honest. My dad does have some minor continental admixture, but I did a little digging around for English results. I hope they don't mind my sharing, but Quotablepatella, and Solothurn both look similar to my dad. Quotablepatella got 37% Mediterranean (http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/42587-Genographic-Project-results?p=1159690&viewfull=1#post1159690), and Solothurn got 37% Mediterranean (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?36-R1b-U-152-Updates-News&p=7900&viewfull=1#post7900). It might be worth noting that Quotablepatella is listed as a relative on 23andme, though.

By the way, didn't you have an issue with your Geno 2.0 admix proportions being more similar to a different population than the top one they gave you on your results page?

rms2
01-10-2014, 01:01 PM
I bought a Geno 2.0 kit for my dad. The test went to 80% complete back on 03 December, but I am still waiting for the results. When I wrote the NatGeo folks just before Christmas, they told me that my dad's test was proceeding normally, with results expected between 18 December 2013 and 15 January 2014. Still waiting.

I hate waiting. :( That is the worst thing about genetic genealogy. I hope someday the technology improves to the point where turnaround is a week at the most. :)

MitchellSince1893
01-10-2014, 05:54 PM
Still waiting.

I hate waiting. :( That is the worst thing about genetic genealogy. I hope someday the technology improves to the point where turnaround is a week at the most. :)
I hear you, but I remind myself that it takes me longer to spend money this way :)

Scarlet Ibis
01-10-2014, 06:23 PM
I bought a Geno 2.0 kit for my dad. The test went to 80% complete back on 03 December, but I am still waiting for the results. When I wrote the NatGeo folks just before Christmas, they told me that my dad's test was proceeding normally, with results expected between 18 December 2013 and 15 January 2014. Still waiting.

I hate waiting. :( That is the worst thing about genetic genealogy. I hope someday the technology improves to the point where turnaround is a week at the most. :)

It's been a while since I got this test done, but I think it took a little over a month to get the results back.

I think that, as a general rule of thumb, the holiday months are a bad time to get these tests. I suspect it has to do with Christmas presents, and sale prices overloading the labs a bit.

I can commiserate with people about long wait times, though. I currently have an AncestryDNA kit for my dad that's been processing since December 10th. AncestryDNA used to have a typical turnaround time of about 2 weeks, but there's some kind of issue going on right now. I wasn't worried about it before, but I DID get concerned after I googled, and saw where other people are obviously having the same issue. http://ancestryforums.custhelp.com/posts/98d8f80134?commentId=16066#16066

rms2
01-12-2014, 03:44 AM
I think what you said about the holidays is right. I will try to be patient and hope that what Clint M of NatGeo told me is correct, and my dad's results will be in by 15 January . . . of this year.

In the meantime, I will continue to drive myself nuts by checking the Geno 2.0 web site several times a day, watching that arrow go to 80%. :\

Dr_McNinja
01-12-2014, 04:09 AM
I think what you said about the holidays is right. I will try to be patient and hope that what Clint M of NatGeo told me is correct, and my dad's results will be in by 15 January . . . of this year.

In the meantime, I will continue to drive myself nuts by checking the Geno 2.0 web site several times a day, watching that arrow go to 80%. :\Lol, I know how you feel. Mine hit 80% just 3 days ago and I got excited but then learned about all these wait times. NatGeo told me my results should be expected between January 23rd and February 20th.

I don't understand why they spend so much time on that quality control phase? What exactly are they doing? Isn't it the same as the FTDNA people? I had a Y-DNA12 kit batched at the same time at FTDNA and those results came out a day or two ago.

My kit was batched on December 12th, completed Stage 2 on December 19th, and completed Stage 3 and entered Stage 4 on January 8th.

There's another user on Facebook who is entering her fifth week waiting at 80%.

I'm going to stick with ordering Advanced SNP tests on FTDNA for my other relatives' kits now. Geno 2.0 is a good deal but not worth the wait, imho, especially if you have a rough idea of which SNPs you want to test. Unless my results come out suddenly within the next week or something, then maybe I'll order one for my uncle.

rms2
01-12-2014, 04:14 AM
Lol, I know how you feel. Mine hit 80% just 3 days ago and I got excited but then learned about all these wait times. NatGeo told me my results should be expected between January 23rd and February 20th.

I don't understand why they spend so much time on that quality control phase? What exactly are they doing? Isn't it the same as the FTDNA people? I had a Y-DNA12 kit batched at the same time at FTDNA and those results came out a day or two ago.

My kit was batched on December 12th, completed Stage 2 on December 19th, and completed Stage 3 and entered Stage 4 on January 8th.

There's another user on Facebook who is entering her fifth week waiting at 80%.

I don't get it either. Why does the last 20% take as long or longer than the first 80%? :confused:

rms2
01-14-2014, 08:17 PM
My dad's results aren't in yet, but I heard today from Rebekah Canada over at FTDNA's forum that FTDNA is pushing out a bunch of Geno 2.0 results this week. I am hopeful my dad's results will be among them.

I'm so accustomed to seeing that arrow go to 80%, I don't know how I will react if his results ever actually appear.

Stephen1986
01-14-2014, 10:44 PM
I have no idea, to be honest. My dad does have some minor continental admixture, but I did a little digging around for English results. I hope they don't mind my sharing, but Quotablepatella, and Solothurn both look similar to my dad. Quotablepatella got 37% Mediterranean (http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/42587-Genographic-Project-results?p=1159690&viewfull=1#post1159690), and Solothurn got 37% Mediterranean (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?36-R1b-U-152-Updates-News&p=7900&viewfull=1#post7900). It might be worth noting that Quotablepatella is listed as a relative on 23andme, though.

By the way, didn't you have an issue with your Geno 2.0 admix proportions being more similar to a different population than the top one they gave you on your results page?

Not sure if you know, but Solothurn is also a relative of mine on 23andMe. My reference population 1 was British, and second was German - http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?1729-Genographic-Project-results.

rms2
01-15-2014, 01:25 AM
Well, my dad's results finally came in, thank God! B)

On the y side, he is CTS2501+ (DF41+) like me, of course, but what I was really curious about is his mtDNA haplogroup. That is K1a1. Interesting!

On the autosomal side his first reference population is - shock! - German, and his second is - bigger shock! - Greek! Of course, I am aware of the limitations of such things, but it's interesting, anyway.

I have not had the time yet to really look over my dad's y-dna SNPs thoroughly, since I just got the results 20 or 30 minutes ago.

It's a relief to finally have them, and I have transferred them over to his FTDNA kit already.

Dr_McNinja
01-15-2014, 02:03 AM
Well, my dad's results finally came in, thank God! B)

On the y side, he is CTS2501+ (DF41+) like me, of course, but what I was really curious about is his mtDNA haplogroup. That is K1a1. Interesting!

On the autosomal side his first reference population is - shock! - German, and his second is - bigger shock! - Greek! Of course, I am aware of the limitations of such things, but it's interesting, anyway.

I have not had the time yet to really look over my dad's y-dna SNPs thoroughly, since I just got the results 20 or 30 minutes ago.

It's a relief to finally have them, and I have transferred them over to his FTDNA kit already.Congrats! Finally!

rms2
01-15-2014, 05:32 PM
I downloaded the CSV file last night, but I haven't had much time to look at it yet. I am relieved to learn that some mtDNA mutations from the RSRS are there: I was really curious to learn my dad's mtDNA haplogroup.

I get up so early to commute to work by train that I did not have much time to look things over, and I won't have time to do it today until I get home this evening. But it is fun to have new results to pore over.

Scarlet Ibis
02-01-2014, 07:19 AM
On the autosomal side his first reference population is - shock! - German, and his second is - bigger shock! - Greek! Of course, I am aware of the limitations of such things, but it's interesting, anyway.


It seems Solothurn might have gotten a similar result. http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?1133-Nat-Geno-Pop-differences&p=15134&viewfull=1#post15134

It just so happens that my dad's reference population results were consistent with what he gets on other tests, but Geno 2.0 has a lot of strange combinations showing up for other people.