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Hayden
10-13-2017, 02:09 AM
I had my father tested with living DNA primarily to find out his maternal haplogroup for the first time and to get a more specific result for the Y haplogroup. I didn't go in expecting the autosomal results to be accurate, but I hope to see improvement later on with their German DNA project.

For some background context, here is a map showing the locations where my father's known ancestors were from. All of his known immigrant ancestors immigrated to Pennsylvania in the early to mid 1700's. Even though their ancestors immigrated many generations ago my father's parents both spoke a form of German as their primary language. The second map is showing how his eurogenes k36 results compare to current populations.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4460/36953594534_3337e40270_o.png

His Ancestry and ftDNA results, the only other companies he has tested directly with:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4512/37614940406_cd9eaafd67_o.png

His LivingDNA autosomal results:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4458/36953594764_1e9958d050_o.png
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4453/37614940686_1d63bf49d3_o.png
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4452/37614940696_b6a0f7a8b9_o.png

The Y and mtDNA results:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4508/36953594914_452741a943_o.png

Some excerpts from europedia on the haplogroups:

y:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4496/36953595064_22e70a9166_o.png

mt:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4487/37614941246_6731baf63f_o.png

sktibo
10-13-2017, 03:14 AM
Gets Scandinavia but not Germanic... Living DNA misses it, too bad
The high Tuscan percentage is very interesting

They really need some more German samples!

miremont
10-13-2017, 02:39 PM
Quite disappointing to see that LivingDNA was unable to correctly assign any of your father's German DNA.

Dewsloth
10-13-2017, 03:38 PM
I had my father tested with living DNA primarily to find out his maternal haplogroup for the first time and to get a more specific result for the Y haplogroup. I didn't go in expecting the autosomal results to be accurate, but I hope to see improvement later on with their German DNA project.

For some background context, here is a map showing the locations where my father's known ancestors were from. All of his known immigrant ancestors immigrated to Pennsylvania in the early to mid 1700's. Even though their ancestors immigrated many generations ago my father's parents both spoke a form of German as their primary language. The second map is showing how his eurogenes k36 results compare to current populations.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4460/36953594534_3337e40270_o.png

His Ancestry and ftDNA results, the only other companies he has tested directly with:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4512/37614940406_cd9eaafd67_o.png

His LivingDNA autosomal results:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4458/36953594764_1e9958d050_o.png
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4453/37614940686_1d63bf49d3_o.png
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4452/37614940696_b6a0f7a8b9_o.png

The Y and mtDNA results:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4508/36953594914_452741a943_o.png

Some excerpts from europedia on the haplogroups:

y:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4496/36953595064_22e70a9166_o.png

mt:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4487/37614941246_6731baf63f_o.png


Quite disappointing to see that LivingDNA was unable to correctly assign any of your father's German DNA.

Hey, at least Hayden got some "French!" They couldn't find my dad's German, either; and he was born there:

19262

K36 Map:
16823

kingjohn
10-13-2017, 04:02 PM
[QUOTE=Hayden;296550]I had my father tested with living DNA primarily to find out his maternal haplogroup for the first time and to get a more specific result for the Y haplogroup. I didn't go in expecting the autosomal results to be accurate, but I hope to see improvement later on with their German DNA project.

For some background context, here is a map showing the locations where my father's known ancestors were from. All of his known immigrant ancestors immigrated to Pennsylvania in the early to mid 1700's. Even though their ancestors immigrated many generations ago my father's parents both spoke a form of German as their primary language. The second map is showing how his eurogenes k36 results compare to current populations.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4460/36953594534_3337e40270_o.png

His Ancestry and ftDNA results, the only other companies he has tested directly with:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4512/37614940406_cd9eaafd67_o.png

wow he score 24% Iberian in my origins 2.0
your father roots in southwest Germany
the big big west central Europe fit very much his roots}
but it show us the Iberian element was probably present in the Celtic tribes of Germany ... very cool :)
regards
adam

greerpalmer
10-13-2017, 04:41 PM
These are actually very promising results in my opinion. I think Palatinate Germans/Swiss register high on Tuscany. Also, while they missed your "germanic" component, the clustering on your UK groups is fairly consistent with pre-England germanic migration.

I'm most surprised at how accurate the MyOrigins 2.0 results look!

Hayden
10-13-2017, 09:36 PM
Thanks everyone for the feedback! It is quite interesting that Dewslothís father also didnít get German. Its somewhat comforting, but in other ways more disappointing.



wow he score 24% Iberian in my origins 2.0
your father roots in southwest Germany
the big big west central Europe fit very much his roots}
but it show us the Iberian element was probably present in the Celtic tribes of Germany ... very cool :)
regards
adam

I also find the high Iberian interesting and agree that is old, likely left over from before germanic expansion into the region. I am not sure where the post is but I recall lukaszM posting ancient k36 results from Germany and not all, but many had very high Iberian percentages a few over 50% if I am remembering correctly.


These are actually very promising results in my opinion. I think Palatinate Germans/Swiss register high on Tuscany. Also, while they missed your "germanic" component, the clustering on your UK groups is fairly consistent with pre-England germanic migration.

I'm most surprised at how accurate the MyOrigins 2.0 results look!

I think the results do speak more about the history of those regions in the U.K. than my Dadís personal ancestry, which admittedly I find interesting. Part of the interest in taking the test was to see how they handled it. While I would like to think that their German DNA project will help eliminate many of the issues, I suspect that the german/french mixture in the palatinate will continue to be troublesome to differentiate from that german/french mixture in England.

Before my Father took the test I anticipated the outcome pretty well, but I didnít think quite as much DNA would be attributed to England since his ancestry was further south.

The Tuscany, as you and sktibo pointed out is somewhat interesting, but I donít know how much stock to take in it. The other regions all seem to be what left over from what was attributed to the U.K. Where if you added the southern components from Tuscany and the U.K. ones together you would get the more complete picture and that the ancestry falls between the two regions. But that is much easier to say from my perspective than theirs, for it just as easily could be someone with family from completely different regions.

I can see how the MyOrigins accuracy seems surprising since it doesnít have a great reputation. Hopefully it is encouraging that their methods can improve. My father tested awhile back and his results before 2.0 had Scandinavian and British as the highest percentages. Although we didn't test directly with them like my father I uploaded my motherís and my own raw file from ancestry to ftDNA. It correctly picks up her British mixture, but for me it actually showed 99% West and Central Europe and no UK where before it thought I was 95% British. I have seen many people say that 2.0 actually made things worse for them, but for us it was a pretty big improvement all things considered.

kingjohn
10-13-2017, 10:19 PM
hayden can you share your father k36 results
i wonder how much Iberian he score ?
does all his roots from southwest Germany /Switzerland ?
kind regatds
adam

p.s
his my origins 2.0 results look logic
they changed the boundaries, add more references to each component, and use different algorithm than the one they used in my origins 1.0

ADW_1981
10-13-2017, 10:24 PM
Either the result is off (which is completely possible) or he has some ancestry from Italy in the not so distant past that really sticks out. J2-M172 as well...hmmm

Hayden
10-13-2017, 10:38 PM
hayden can you share your father k36 results
i wonder how much Iberian he score ?
does all his roots from southwest Germany /Switzerland ?
kind regatds
adam

p.s
his my origins 2.0 results look logic
they changed the boundaries, add more references to each component, and use different algorithm than the one they used in my origins 1.0

Yes, all his know ancestry is represented on the first map in SW Germany, with some Alsace and Switzerland. My father's k36 has 17.21% Iberian, lukaszM's populations had and average of 12.135% for west Germany, and 14.219% for German Swiss, so it is somewhat above average for the region but I don't know the range of the results.

Here is the full breakdown:
> `> Amerindian - `
> `> Arabian - `
> `> Armenian 2.03`
> `> Basque 2.98`
> `> Central_African - `
> `> Central_Euro 4.41`
> `> East_African - `
> `> East_Asian - `
> `> East_Balkan 2.30`
> `> East_Central_Asian - `
> `> East_Central_Euro 8.33`
> `> East_Med 2.30`
> `> Eastern_Euro 3.48`
> `> Fennoscandian 6.94`
> `> French 6.36`
> `> Iberian 17.21`
> `> Indo-Chinese - `
> `> Italian 11.63`
> `> Malayan - `
> `> Near_Eastern - `
> `> North_African - `
> `> North_Atlantic 14.23`
> `> North_Caucasian 1.73`
> `> North_Sea 13.11`
> `> Northeast_African - `
> `> Oceanian - `
> `> Omotic - `
> `> Pygmy - `
> `> Siberian - `
> `> South_Asian - `
> `> South_Central_Asian - `
> `> South_Chinese - `
> `> Volga-Ural - `
> `> West_African - `
> `> West_Caucasian 0.39`
> `> West_Med 2.57`

Hayden
10-13-2017, 10:52 PM
Either the result is off (which is completely possible) or he has some ancestry from Italy in the not so distant past that really sticks out. J2-M172 as well...hmmm

While that would be amusing I think it is more likely that it is just off, that it is what was left after finding parts that fit in the UK. I mean even A Norfolk L-M20 was given 9.6% Tuscany by livingDNA. I don't know much about the history of the Y haplogroup or how it got there but we know it was in Oberdiebach, Germany by the 1500's. My father has a distant cousin that also had his y dna tested which confirms their male lines back to Oberdiebach, and their first common ancestor.

kingjohn
10-13-2017, 11:16 PM
17% Iberian wow high {and above average to the region}......
maybe the treveri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treveri ????? :)
after seeing this i think my origins 2.0 wasn't wrong that they gave him high Iberian defiantly there
about your father j2 i don't think it is recent lets not forget it was found in LBK austria
LBK, Austria, Kleinhadersdorf Flur Marchleiten [I5068 / grave 40 (Inventory no. NHM 25.929)], M, 5500-4775 BCE, 329072, J2

Nive1526
10-14-2017, 08:20 AM
Here are my southern German results for comparison:

LivingDNA standard mode

Europe 98.8%

Europe (North and West) 39.4%

Germanic 39.4%


Great Britain and Ireland 34.9%

Southeast England 6.1%
South England 5.3%
Lincolnshire 5%
North Yorkshire 4.2%
Central England 3.9%
South Central England 2.9%
Northumbria 1.9%
South Wales Border 1.6%
Great Britain and Ireland (unassigned) 4%


Europe (South) 23%

Tuscany 23%

Europe (unassigned) 1.5%

Near East 1.2%

Arabia 1.2%


Eurogenes K36

Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 2.01
Basque 3.32
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.45
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.53
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 11.57
East_Med 0.65
Eastern_Euro 0.32
Fennoscandian 2.05
French 1.76
Iberian 17.27
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.80
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.42
North_Atlantic 10.20
North_Caucasian 0.45
North_Sea 15.54
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.91
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.34
West_Med 1.40

kingjohn
10-14-2017, 12:48 PM
randwulf father who is origins from south and west Germany
also score Iberian in my origins 2.0 he score 13% so hayden father Iberian element is not a rare case
:)

p.s
nive1526 what are your results in my origins 2.0 ?

Edward J
10-16-2017, 12:36 PM
My Paternal line is also PA German and J2 (on a different branch under Z387).

Wow, that's amazing that your parents till spoke German after that many generations! May I ask where in PA your family is/was from in PA?

Ron from PA
10-16-2017, 01:38 PM
I'm mainly PA Dutch. I receive 0 Germanic from them. My highest score on the K36 is 90 on what I imagine is Frankfurt which is close to the Palatinate.

Dewsloth
10-16-2017, 02:45 PM
I'm mainly PA Dutch. I receive 0 Germanic from them. My highest score on the K36 is 90 on what I imagine is Frankfurt which is close to the Palatinate.

Does it look something like my dad's k36 map attached to post #4?

Hayden
10-16-2017, 07:49 PM
Thank you Nive1526 for sharing your results, I really appreciate it! It is good to see they picked up a pretty good portion of Germanic. It is interesting that a similar percentage Tuscany showed up also, even with a German portion. I do wonder if it gets a little inflated for every part attributed to the UK, but since you also have a nice amount of Italian in k36 perhaps it isn't that far off. Also nice to see about an identical amount of Iberian in k36. It is good to see my dad really isn't much of an outlier there, I wasn't sure what to make of it at first.



My Paternal line is also PA German and J2 (on a different branch under Z387).

Wow, that's amazing that your parents till spoke German after that many generations! May I ask where in PA your family is/was from in PA?

My father was born after WII so his generation didn't grow up speaking language, and it has now almost died out among the nonsectarians. For his parents it was their first language, my dad understands PA Dutch speakers but isn't fluent speaking the language himself. When I was young I didn't really understand how many generations my family had been in the US. I think it was probably a similar experience to having immigrant grandparents, except they also spoke english, albeit with a thick accent and odd pronunciations. I didn't grow up in Dutch country so I didn't even realize that all the other people their age there sounded the same until I was almost an adult.

My fathers family is about half from western Lehigh county, and half from eastern Berks county. My father grew up around Kutztown, where they have the annual folk festivals.

Edward J
10-16-2017, 08:37 PM
My father has some UK, Irish, and eastern German input, but does have many PA dutch lines. Here is his K36 map.19307

Nive1526
10-16-2017, 08:46 PM
Thank you Nive1526 for sharing your results, I really appreciate it! It is good to see they picked up a pretty good portion of Germanic. It is interesting that a similar percentage Tuscany showed up also, even with a German portion. I do wonder if it gets a little inflated for every part attributed to the UK, but since you also have a nice amount of Italian in k36 perhaps it isn't that far off. Also nice to see about an identical amount of Iberian in k36. It is good to see my dad really isn't much of an outlier there, I wasn't sure what to make of it at first.


The mediterranean component shows up in other calculators aswell, I don't really know if I'm an outlier myself. Being J-M92 is already an odd result.


K13 Oracle:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71% Southwest_English + 29% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.3
2 80.6% West_German + 19.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.34
3 82.9% West_German + 17.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.36
4 81.2% West_German + 18.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.37
5 81.8% West_German + 18.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.41
6 77.7% West_German + 22.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.43
7 92.7% West_German + 7.3% Sardinian @ 2.44
8 79.4% West_German + 20.6% Portuguese @ 2.45
9 79.5% West_German + 20.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.46
10 58.5% North_Dutch + 41.5% North_Italian @ 2.47
11 79.9% West_German + 20.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.5
12 83.6% West_German + 16.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.5
13 74.8% Southwest_English + 25.2% Central_Greek @ 2.51
14 81.7% West_German + 18.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.53
15 53.7% West_German + 46.3% French @ 2.54
16 81.5% West_German + 18.5% Southwest_French @ 2.55
17 81.9% West_German + 18.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.6
18 75.4% Southwest_English + 24.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.72
19 82.7% South_Dutch + 17.3% North_Italian @ 2.78
20 53.8% Norwegian + 46.2% North_Italian @ 2.8


K15 Oracle:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% West_German + 5.3% Sardinian @ 4.42
2 86.3% West_German + 13.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.53
3 89.3% West_German + 10.7% Portuguese @ 4.66
4 90.1% West_German + 9.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.67
5 92.1% West_German + 7.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.73
6 92.4% West_German + 7.6% North_Italian @ 4.75
7 90.7% West_German + 9.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.75
8 91.9% West_German + 8.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.75
9 81.9% West_German + 18.1% French @ 4.78
10 93.9% West_German + 6.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.8
11 92.9% West_German + 7.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.8
12 94.1% West_German + 5.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.81
13 99% West_German + 1% Papuan @ 4.81
14 93.8% West_German + 6.2% Southwest_French @ 4.81
15 97.1% West_German + 2.9% Moroccan @ 4.82
16 94.1% West_German + 5.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.83
17 94.7% West_German + 5.3% Tuscan @ 4.83
18 97.2% West_German + 2.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.84
19 94.2% West_German + 5.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.84
20 98.9% West_German + 1.1% NAN_Melanesian @ 4.85

Ron from PA
10-17-2017, 02:04 AM
Does it look something like my dad's k36 map attached to post #4?

Somewhat I score higher in the Northern part of Germany. 88 in what I assume is Hamburg. Where he gets 90 in what I guess is Munich I get 87. I score a range of 80-85 in the UK and Ireland. But i'm probably around 35% British ancestry.

Askye
12-18-2017, 09:33 AM
Quite disappointing to see that LivingDNA was unable to correctly assign any of your father's German DNA.

Living DNA totally missed my friend's strong Greek and Spanish ancestry. Told her when that she is 60% UK, when she couldn't be more than 30% max.
She's just glad she didn't order for her whole family.
They already think DNA testing is a crock of crud and now she can't even share her absurd results.

SaltyShanker
02-04-2018, 04:25 AM
My father just got his livingDNA results back , and he got pretty much the EXACT same thing . All of my fathers line is German and Swiss german from Pennsylvania , every single ancestor . And on his living dna results hegot 90% British and Irish and 10% tuscany lmao , something is VERY wrong with their results . We uploaded his DNA to gedmatch and it was completely differant and way more accurate

Hayden
02-04-2018, 06:40 AM
My father just got his livingDNA results back , and he got pretty much the EXACT same thing . All of my fathers line is German and Swiss german from Pennsylvania , every single ancestor . And on his living dna results hegot 90% British and Irish and 10% tuscany lmao , something is VERY wrong with their results . We uploaded his DNA to gedmatch and it was completely differant and way more accurate

Thanks for sharing your experience. Even though the estimations seem very inaccurate now, I think it really comes down to their high over sampling of the English population and undersampling of other populations that are closely related. Really it isn't wrong about the components it is picking up, hopefully their German DNA project is something worth looking forward to them completing. When I first joined the site (a few months ago) I was curious to why ancestry assigned a large British component to my dad. The more I understand how the estimations are made the less perplexing the results are. Anyway I am very interested in your fathers results on various tests as another PA German, and hope you continue to share more in future.

SaltyShanker
02-04-2018, 06:15 PM
Yeah id agree ! probably 80% of their database is from England , hopefully they get more samples in the future . Im just glad they constantly update results so hopefully soon they can start pin pointing the Germanic :) Because every single person in his family tree has german surnames lmao its so odd that it doesnt pick up any germanic . I also see that you private messaged me , but i am not able to respond because i need to post at least 10 times before i can do so , but i will do that gedmatch thing you sent me , thanks !

SaltyShanker
02-05-2018, 12:19 AM
Here is my Fathers Eurogenes K36 results , very similar to yours ! probably because my father is also Pennsylvania dutch ( palatine german and swiss german )
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.07
Armenian -
Basque 0.58
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.23
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.24
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 9.29
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.35
Fennoscandian 8.31
French 2.91
Iberian 14.52
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.41
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 19.00
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 15.28
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 2.80

Angriff
02-05-2018, 12:23 AM
While Living DNA did roll all of my (North) German DNA in SE England, it otherwise seems remarkably accurate at teasing out bits of admixture. I think it will be quite incredible when they load it with data from more regions.

Hayden
02-05-2018, 03:48 AM
Here is my Fathers Eurogenes K36 results , very similar to yours ! probably because my father is also Pennsylvania dutch ( palatine german and swiss german )
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.07
Armenian -
Basque 0.58
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.23
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.24
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 9.29
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.35
Fennoscandian 8.31
French 2.91
Iberian 14.52
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.41
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 19.00
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 15.28
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 2.80

Thanks. It is interesting to look at multipe PA German results to see how they vary from the current european pops and eachother. Especially with the complicated history in the region, like the 30 years war. I see your fathers atlantic component is very high, for instance. I bet that will skew the results more to northwestern france. My fathers also skews that way, I think in part because of his high Iberian. My maternal grandmother has more recent german ancestry and her results are somewhat more in line with the current west german population than my Dads.

What region of PA is your family from, if you don’t mind me asking? Mine were a 50/50 mix of Lutheran and German Reformed non-sectarians from mostly Berks and Lehigh county on my Dads side.

Hayden
02-05-2018, 04:16 AM
Also, I thought you may be interested, the west and Swiss German averages of k36 results according to lukaszM's data.



Populations West German Swiss German
Amerindian 0.050 0.011
Arabian 0.142 0.276
Armenian 0.687 1.565
Basque 1.947 2.546
Central_African 0.000 0.000
Central_Euro 6.809 7.494
East_African 0.003 0.000
East_Asian 0.000 0.000
East_Balkan 4.459 4.166
EastCentralAsian 0.000 0.009
EastCentralEuro 7.466 5.556
East_Med 1.198 1.019
Eastern_Euro 4.400 2.946
Fennoscandian 8.212 6.994
French 7.046 6.391
Iberian 12.135 14.219
Indo-Chinese 0.000 0.000
Italian 12.896 16.412
Malayan 0.000 0.000
Near_Eastern 0.251 0.444
North_African 0.005 0.154
NorthAtlantic 11.390 10.241
NorthCaucasian 2.097 1.448
North_Sea 15.770 13.794
Northeast_African 0.000 0.000
Oceanian 0.033 0.000
Omotic 0.000 0.044
Pygmy 0.010 0.000
Siberian 0.000 0.000
South_Asian 0.000 0.000
SouthCentralAsian 0.262 0.125
South_Chinese 0.000 0.000
Volga-Ural 0.254 0.062
West_African 0.015 0.000
West_Caucasian 0.802 0.628
West_Med 1.658 3.449

SaltyShanker
02-05-2018, 04:34 AM
Yeah its quite interesting to compare them ! and to see the average Swiss German and West german results . I wonder why Arabian shows up so high on his results , maybe from a previous human migration in the alpine region that was genetically frozen , I heard you could have two cities in the alps only 15 mins away from eachother and they will be very genetically differant :) Thanks for posting !

SaltyShanker
02-05-2018, 04:44 AM
And his family where from Lancaster and eventually moved to Johnstown where they currently reside :)

SaltyShanker
02-05-2018, 04:49 AM
By the way , there is this website where you can type in your surname and it will give you a distribution where its found , mine is a swiss german surname thats pretty much only found in Switzerland but also in Alsace in low amounts since they are so similar to the swiss germans ( the alemannic connection ) http://worldnames.publicprofiler.org/21240

Dewsloth
02-05-2018, 05:00 AM
Also, I thought you may be interested, the west and Swiss German averages of k36 results according to lukaszM's data.



Populations West German Swiss German
Amerindian 0.050 0.011
Arabian 0.142 0.276
Armenian 0.687 1.565
Basque 1.947 2.546
Central_African 0.000 0.000
Central_Euro 6.809 7.494
East_African 0.003 0.000
East_Asian 0.000 0.000
East_Balkan 4.459 4.166
EastCentralAsian 0.000 0.009
EastCentralEuro 7.466 5.556
East_Med 1.198 1.019
Eastern_Euro 4.400 2.946
Fennoscandian 8.212 6.994
French 7.046 6.391
Iberian 12.135 14.219
Indo-Chinese 0.000 0.000
Italian 12.896 16.412
Malayan 0.000 0.000
Near_Eastern 0.251 0.444
North_African 0.005 0.154
NorthAtlantic 11.390 10.241
NorthCaucasian 2.097 1.448
North_Sea 15.770 13.794
Northeast_African 0.000 0.000
Oceanian 0.033 0.000
Omotic 0.000 0.044
Pygmy 0.010 0.000
Siberian 0.000 0.000
South_Asian 0.000 0.000
SouthCentralAsian 0.262 0.125
South_Chinese 0.000 0.000
Volga-Ural 0.254 0.062
West_African 0.015 0.000
West_Caucasian 0.802 0.628
West_Med 1.658 3.449


Cool. Dadís results donít look too out of line (considering heís about half west German):
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.96
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.40
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.73
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.11
East_Med 3.40
Eastern_Euro 0.59
Fennoscandian 7.95
French 8.00
Iberian 12.86
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.33
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.41
North_Atlantic 11.76
North_Caucasian 3.05
North_Sea 14.59
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.47
West_Med 2.38

Hayden
02-05-2018, 05:04 AM
By the way , there is this website where you can type in your surname and it will give you a distribution where its found , mine is a swiss german surname thats pretty much only found in Switzerland but also in Alsace in low amounts since they are so similar to the swiss germans ( the alemannic connection ) http://worldnames.publicprofiler.org/21240

Very cool! My surname (Schneider) is too common to get that nice of a result, but it will be fun to look at for some of the more obscure family names etc.

SaltyShanker
02-05-2018, 05:11 AM
its a very addicting website haha :D I spent like 2 hours just entering different surnames and looking at the distribution of them .

Hayden
02-05-2018, 05:14 AM
Cool. Dadís results donít look too out of line (considering heís about half west German):
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.96
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.40
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.73
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.11
East_Med 3.40
Eastern_Euro 0.59
Fennoscandian 7.95
French 8.00
Iberian 12.86
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.33
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.41
North_Atlantic 11.76
North_Caucasian 3.05
North_Sea 14.59
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.47
West_Med 2.38

Your dads is very similar, I think I saved your dads results somewhere when I asked you b4.

I am really curious to what the range results were in his data collection though. It seems like it isn't than uncommon to see high levels of variation in certain components.