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mikeeraz
10-18-2017, 04:35 PM
Hello all! Was wondering what others, particularly Middle Eastern Descent got as their Ancestry DNA results :) Others are more than welcome to participate as well!

My results were:

53% Middle Eastern
22% Caucasus
21% Italy/Greece
4% European Jewish

My Father's results:
49% Middle Eastern
27% Caucasus
24% Italy/Greece

Paternal Grandmother:
44% Middle Eastern
32% Caucasus
19% Italy/Greece
5% European Jewish

Maternal Grandmother:
53% Middle Eastern
24% Caucasus
22% Italy/Greece
1% European Jewish

Maternal Grandfather:
48% Middle Eastern
28% Italy/Greece
23% Caucasus
1% European Jewish

Sikeliot
10-18-2017, 04:40 PM
Italy/Greece is scored because south Italians and Sicilians have Levantine input so the test is picking up the similarity but in the opposite direction.

Dewsloth
10-18-2017, 04:45 PM
My mom's Lebanese and my dad is German/British/Ashkenazi:

My results:

Ethnicity Estimate
Europe South 47%
Europe West 19%
Middle East 14%
[Syrian-Lebanese -- this is the only "genetic community" they designated for me; I have no "circles"]
Caucasus 8%
Low Confidence Regions
Ireland/Scotland/Wales 4%
Great Britain 3%
European Jewish 3%
Asia South 1%
Scandinavia 1%

Don Felipe
10-18-2017, 04:52 PM
I have done a survey on ANcestryDNA results across the world. Here's a summary of my findings sofar:

https://tracingafricanroots.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/stats-iran-n151.jpg

mikeeraz
10-18-2017, 04:55 PM
Italy/Greece is scored because south Italians and Sicilians have Levantine input so the test is picking up the similarity but in the opposite direction.

That makes sense for sure. I won't be surprised however if we do in fact have some Italian/Greek, as we have had multiple distant cousins appear who were Greek and Greek Cypriot, particularly with my paternal side, while my maternal grandmother has an interesting amount of those with Italian background as her distant cousins. Regardless, we are all neighbours in the area!

mikeeraz
10-18-2017, 04:57 PM
My mom's Lebanese and my dad is German/British/Ashkenazi:

My results:

Ethnicity Estimate
Europe South 47%
Europe West 19%
Middle East 14%
[Syrian-Lebanese -- this is the only "genetic community" they designated for me; I have no "circles"]
Caucasus 8%
Low Confidence Regions
Ireland/Scotland/Wales 4%
Great Britain 3%
European Jewish 3%
Asia South 1%
Scandinavia 1%

Very interesting how they picked up the Lebanese component! As you probably guessed, my family and I are all within that genetic community as well, no shocker there!

Apex n Harmony
10-18-2017, 05:05 PM
Italy/Greece is scored because south Italians and Sicilians have Levantine input so the test is picking up the similarity but in the opposite direction.

Why wouldn't the Italy/Greece score just appear as "Middle East," if the input is indeed from the Middle East in the first place?

Sikeliot
10-18-2017, 09:14 PM
Why wouldn't the Italy/Greece score just appear as "Middle East," if the input is indeed from the Middle East in the first place?

I am unsure, but I notice that people of southern Italian descent score Middle Eastern, and then actual Middle Easterners often score Italian/Greek (which is a component that I believe peaks in central-southern Italy).

Claudio
10-24-2017, 01:56 PM
That makes sense for sure. I won't be surprised however if we do in fact have some Italian/Greek, as we have had multiple distant cousins appear who were Greek and Greek Cypriot, particularly with my paternal side, while my maternal grandmother has an interesting amount of those with Italian background as her distant cousins. Regardless, we are all neighbours in the area!

That makes more sense.

Claudio
10-24-2017, 02:00 PM
What I would be quite interested to find out going the other way is if the southern italians and Sicilian scoring middle eastern have any distant middle eastern DNA relatives coming up in the relative DNA cousins finders? So if any southern italians or Sicilians who score 20/30% middle eastern are reading this please enlighten us?

AJL
10-24-2017, 02:07 PM
It's incredibly unlikely you have Ashkenazi ancestry. Likely it is a common generic Middle Eastern ancestry.

But also possible is shared Middle Eastern Jewish ancestry. (I have some Sephardi ancestry from Aleppo and have a few low-level matches from, and used to have distant relatives in, Beirut.)

Claudio
10-24-2017, 03:10 PM
Italy/Greece is scored because south Italians and Sicilians have Levantine input so the test is picking up the similarity but in the opposite direction.

I think this is very presumptuous.. when it could quite easily be greek or italian DNA ancestry they have inherited.
In fact the poster goes on to reveal he has Greek and Cypriot distant DNA relatives and his grandmother some italian ones.

Rach_27
11-08-2017, 01:08 AM
Europe South 25% (It used to read Italy/Greece)
Middle East 21%
Ireland/Scotland/Wales 17% (Used to only state Irish)
Caucasus 13%
Great Britain 11%
Scandinavia 6%
Europe West 5%
European Jewish 2%

I don't have any known Southern European (Italian/Greek) ancestry but recently Ancestry updated my results and it now states that the Southern European is linked to my Middle Eastern Ancestry. I agree that the European Jewish might be ancient ancestry because all of my Middle Eastern matches have this component even though they are Christians.

crossover
11-22-2017, 07:27 AM
Europe South 25% (It used to read Italy/Greece)
Middle East 21%
Ireland/Scotland/Wales 17% (Used to only state Irish)
Caucasus 13%
Great Britain 11%
Scandinavia 6%
Europe West 5%
European Jewish 2%

I don't have any known Southern European (Italian/Greek) ancestry but recently Ancestry updated my results and it now states that the Southern European is linked to my Middle Eastern Ancestry. I agree that the European Jewish might be ancient ancestry because all of my Middle Eastern matches have this component even though they are Christians.

the europe south category is kinda confusing imo. heck i've seen siblings gets radical differences in the south europe:middle eastern %'s ratio. i'm guessing those two regions are almost indistinguishable genetically

JJBoogie
02-13-2018, 02:03 PM
Italy/Greece 52%
Great Britain 18%
Middle East 7%
European Jewish 6%
Caucasus 7%
Europe East 5%
Iberian Peninsula 2%

On other dna sites those percentages go up and down depending. LOL

KingofPhoenicia001
05-13-2018, 07:08 AM
Middle East 46%
Europe South 26%
Caucasus 13%
Asia South 7%
Africa North 5%
European Jewish 3%

I was just surprised by the south Asian, since I don’t usually get that on most Gedmatch calculators or 23andMe.

SonsOfHerakles
05-15-2018, 12:04 AM
Hello all! Was wondering what others, particularly Middle Eastern Descent got as their Ancestry DNA results :) Others are more than welcome to participate as well!

My results were:

53% Middle Eastern
22% Caucasus
21% Italy/Greece
4% European Jewish

My Father's results:
49% Middle Eastern
27% Caucasus
24% Italy/Greece

Paternal Grandmother:
44% Middle Eastern
32% Caucasus
19% Italy/Greece
5% European Jewish

Maternal Grandmother:
53% Middle Eastern
24% Caucasus
22% Italy/Greece
1% European Jewish

Maternal Grandfather:
48% Middle Eastern
28% Italy/Greece
23% Caucasus
1% European Jewish

I am half Greek Cypriot/Sicilian and half Northern European. My results definitely seem off in terms of low ME and Caucus %. Does anyone have any possible ideas about how this could make sense?

Ancestry
Europe South (Sicily)
40%

Europe East (Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland & Lithuania)
24%

Great Britain
20%
Low Confidence Regions
Finland/Northwest Russia
5%
Middle East
5%
Caucasus
1%
Iberian Peninsula
1%
Europe West
1%
European Jewish
1%
Scandinavia
<1%
Asia South
<1%

Iseid0441
05-23-2018, 02:40 AM
60% Middle East
22% South Europe
16% Caucasus
2% Ashkenazi

Saba123
05-23-2018, 10:26 PM
I am Iranian
Caucasus 73%
Asia South 14%
Middle East 10%
Africa Southeastern Bantu 2%
European Jewish <1%

my mom
Caucasus 77%
Asia South 9%
Middle East 13%
Africa Southeastern Bantu <1%

Sizzles
05-24-2018, 08:26 AM
36%southern euro Sicily
26%eastern euro north italy croatia bosnia herzivenia
24% great britain
5% ireland scotland wales
4% Caucasus
2% middle east
1% Scandinavian
1% west euro
1%north africia
Mixed euro and med.

Iseid0441
07-09-2018, 12:08 AM
Does the new update include the middle east? I found a Palestinian Christian match with no Europe South component, it seems they stuck it under the middle east.
I'm not sure which version is latest. Mine or his?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s4epguVj0W1LNU7wjJyJ6PcGDTEY2QKt/view?usp=drivesdk

coffeeprince
07-09-2018, 12:30 AM
Does the new update include the middle east? I found a Lebanese match with no Europe South component, it seems they stuck it under the middle east.
I'm not sure which version is latest. Mine or his?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s4epguVj0W1LNU7wjJyJ6PcGDTEY2QKt/view?usp=drivesdk

Yes, it does.
Looking at their description, it says it's:
Primarily located in Syria, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Lebanon, Israel, Qatar, Bahrain and Egypt.
Also found in: Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Djibouti and Cyprus.

Iseid0441
07-09-2018, 02:03 AM
Yes, it does.
Looking at their description, it says it's:
Primarily located in Syria, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Lebanon, Israel, Qatar, Bahrain and Egypt.
Also found in: Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Djibouti and Cyprus.

So you think this person already got the new update? I'm just wondering if Sikeliot earlier statement is correct. He said that the Europe South component is actually Levantine.
European Jewish also disappeared.
Here's a screenshot
24518

coffeeprince
07-09-2018, 07:18 PM
So you think this person already got the new update? I'm just wondering if Sikeliot earlier statement is correct. He said that the Europe South component is actually Levantine.
European Jewish also disappeared.
Here's a screenshot
24518

The second person? Yes, I think that person has received the update. They don't have trace regions anymore either.

dinoprada
07-29-2018, 05:12 PM
Ok I’m 1/4 English (traced back to 1600s no known Irish or Scots/Welsh )

1/4 Triestian (more ethnic Slovenian/ Austrains than Italians) this area was “Italianised” under fascist Italy

Father from Syria with a western Turkish (Istanbul ) & Albanian mother

Father is half “Arab” and half Kurdish Syrian

New results are

28% Greece & Balkans
27% Eastern Europe
14% England & Wales
7% Germanic Europe
3% Norwegian
6% Turkey & Caucasus
5% Iran & Persia (Kurdish?)
6% Middle East
2% Italy
2% Baltic’s


I’d say that’s pretty much 98% spot on what I know of my families paper genealogy .

As an aside familytreeDNA

85% European
5% western Asian (Middle East)
5% Caucasus (Turkey)
5% central Asian (this was surpassing as the population is north India , Pakistan and Afghanistan / Kashmir

Saba123
08-01-2018, 12:28 AM
My aunts results: (pretty typical Southern Iranian)
65% Caucasus
15% Asia South
15% Middle East
2% European Jewish
1% Senegal
1% Cameroon and Congo
1% Africa North

My 3rd cousin?( half Azeri half Bakhtiari, but his results are a bit off in my opinion, the GEDmatch makes more sense)
54% Caucasus
20% Asia South
17% Middle East
4% European Jewish
4% Europe South
1% Great Britain

The only updated Iranian distant match I could find.
Iran/Persia 79%
Turkey and Caucasus 19%
Middle East 2%
(I dont have the numbers of the old result but i have the regions in order :Caucasus, Middle East, Asia South, European Jewish, Africa North)
It seems like the new update reduces the amount of Middle East and Asian South in Iranian significantly, also seemingly completely removing the odd European Jewish result that West Asians get.
I wish I knew what her results were prior to the update so I could better guess my own results, but I think from reading the regions the match is pretty typically Iranian. I just wonder if they have any Azeri or known Turkish heritage or if Iranians will all have a decent chunk of Turkey and Caucasus

Lupriac
08-23-2018, 05:38 PM
What's the reason behind Italian/Greek DNA being there? Can it be traced to the Roman/Seleucid times or due to Arab invasion of Southern Italy?

Dewsloth
08-23-2018, 06:34 PM
My mom's Lebanese and my dad is German/British/Ashkenazi:

My results:

Ethnicity Estimate
Europe South 47%
Europe West 19%
Middle East 14%
[Syrian-Lebanese -- this is the only "genetic community" they designated for me; I have no "circles"]
Caucasus 8%
Low Confidence Regions
Ireland/Scotland/Wales 4%
Great Britain 3%
European Jewish 3%
Asia South 1%
Scandinavia 1%

Now with the new update:

As I mentioned in the update thread, compared to the old result and paper (50% Lebanese, 20% Brit, 20% German, 5% Belgian, 5% Jewish), I think it's mostly an improvement, other than the way the maps split Lebanon in half -- I'm pretty sure I have more in common autosomally with Syrians, Armenians and southern Turks than Saudis and Eritreans :confused:

Middle East 36%
Syrian-Lebanese
Germanic Europe 25%
Italy 22%
England, Wales & Northwestern Europe 10%
Greece and the Balkans 3%
European Jewish 2%
Turkey and the Caucasus 2% (seems really low!)

25427

KingofPhoenicia001
08-31-2018, 05:54 PM
What's the reason behind Italian/Greek DNA being there? Can it be traced to the Roman/Seleucid times or due to Arab invasion of Southern Italy?

A lot Lebanese get around 20% Southern Europe, not because they actually have ancestry there, but because overlap and similarities that science can't distinguish yet. Like how many Levantines get small percentages of European Jewish or North African because of similarities not that they have ancestors from there. Although, it wouldn't be surprising that a small percent of that South Euro is from Greek/Roman times.

Iseid0441
09-03-2018, 03:53 AM
Anyone else got their new Ancestry results?
I'm interested in seeing other MENA results. Please try the trick in the following thread to peek into the new update.

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?14042-Is-the-Ethnicity-Estimate-getting-an-update-2018/page178


Here's mine

{"version":4,"createdAt":1535390758000,"regions":[{"key":"NearEast","percentage":91,"lowerConfidence":84,"upperConfidence":100,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#f1e000"},{"key":"TurkeyArmenia","percentage":9,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfidence":15,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#75cd00"}]}

Iseid0441
09-03-2018, 04:00 AM
Now with the new update:

As I mentioned in the update thread, compared to the old result and paper (50% Lebanese, 20% Brit, 20% German, 5% Belgian, 5% Jewish), I think it's mostly an improvement, other than the way the maps split Lebanon in half -- I'm pretty sure I have more in common autosomally with Syrians, Armenians and southern Turks than Saudis and Eritreans :confused:

Middle East 36%
Syrian-Lebanese
Germanic Europe 25%
Italy 22%
England, Wales & Northwestern Europe 10%
Greece and the Balkans 3%
European Jewish 2%
Turkey and the Caucasus 2% (seems really low!)

25427

Their new map shows Lebanon and Syria inside the Caucasus category but your Caucasus score is low. The map is misleading

KingofPhoenicia001
09-04-2018, 09:55 PM
Their new map shows Lebanon and Syria inside the Caucasus category but your Caucasus score is low. The map is misleading

Map definitely is misleading, but it makes sense that Lebanese would be under Middle East since Caucasus is more Eastern shifted (I bet Syrians and North Iraqis get way larger percentages). I had a low Caucusus score to begin with at 13% and my results still haven't updated, so it will be interesting to see how that comes out! Also happy they further divided Southern Europe further into Italy and Balkans, hopefully it will more accurate!

Iseid0441
09-05-2018, 02:40 AM
Map definitely is misleading, but it makes sense that Lebanese would be under Middle East since Caucasus is more Eastern shifted (I bet Syrians and North Iraqis get way larger percentages). I had a low Caucusus score to begin with at 13% and my results still haven't updated, so it will be interesting to see how that comes out! Also happy they further divided Southern Europe further into Italy and Balkans, hopefully it will more accurate!
I think everyone has the update but I'm not sure if it will change once it becomes official.

If you want to find out what your update is use this hack.

When you go into your ethnicity estimate you will have your unique code at the end, copy that and replace where the Xs are. Use the link below.

/www.ancestry.com/dna/origins/secure/tests/xxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx/ethnicity?version=4

When you paste your link into the browser, you'll get something like this,

{"version":4,"createdAt":1535390758000,"regions ":[{"key":"NearEast","percentage":91,"lowerConfidence ":84,"upperConfidence":100,"lowConfidenceAssignmen t":false,"color":"#f1e000"},{"key":"TurkeyArmenia" ,"percentage":9,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfiden ce":15,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#7 5cd00"}]}


You see mine says 91% near east and 9% turkey/Armenia

KingofPhoenicia001
09-05-2018, 06:14 AM
I think everyone has the update but I'm not sure if it will change once it becomes official.

If you want to find out what your update is use this hack.

When you go into your ethnicity estimate you will have your unique code at the end, copy that and replace where the Xs are. Use the link below.

/www.ancestry.com/dna/origins/secure/tests/xxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx/ethnicity?version=4

When you paste your link into the browser, you'll get something like this,

{"version":4,"createdAt":1535390758000,"regions ":[{"key":"NearEast","percentage":91,"lowerConfidence ":84,"upperConfidence":100,"lowConfidenceAssignmen t":false,"color":"#f1e000"},{"key":"TurkeyArmenia" ,"percentage":9,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfiden ce":15,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#7 5cd00"}]}


You see mine says 91% near east and 9% turkey/Armenia

Thank you! This is what I got.

{"version":4,"createdAt":1535377628000,"regions":[{"key":"NearEast","percentage":54,"lowerConfidence":54,"upperConfidence":73,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#f1e000"},{"key":"TurkeyArmenia","percentage":40,"lowerConfidence":33,"upperConfidence":40,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#75cd00"},{"key":"AfricaN","percentage":4,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfidence":12,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#00cc99"},{"key":"Persian","percentage":1,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfidence":14,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#00b8cd"},{"key":"BeninTogo","percentage":1,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfidence":1,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#0087a2"}]}

so...
Near East 54%
Caucasus 40%
North Africa 4%
Persian 1%
BeninTogo 1%

Compared with before:
Middle East 46%
Europe South 26%
Caucasus 13%
Asia South 7%
Africa North 5%
European Jewish 3%

Thats a pretty big change! I was expecting some Balkan or Italian, at least... I wonder if other Lebanese get such high Caucasus.

Apex n Harmony
09-23-2018, 04:08 PM
My aunts results: (pretty typical Southern Iranian)
65% Caucasus
15% Asia South
15% Middle East
2% European Jewish
1% Senegal
1% Cameroon and Congo
1% Africa North

My 3rd cousin?( half Azeri half Bakhtiari, but his results are a bit off in my opinion, the GEDmatch makes more sense)
54% Caucasus
20% Asia South
17% Middle East
4% European Jewish
4% Europe South
1% Great Britain

The only updated Iranian distant match I could find.
Iran/Persia 79%
Turkey and Caucasus 19%
Middle East 2%
(I dont have the numbers of the old result but i have the regions in order :Caucasus, Middle East, Asia South, European Jewish, Africa North)
It seems like the new update reduces the amount of Middle East and Asian South in Iranian significantly, also seemingly completely removing the odd European Jewish result that West Asians get.
I wish I knew what her results were prior to the update so I could better guess my own results, but I think from reading the regions the match is pretty typically Iranian. I just wonder if they have any Azeri or known Turkish heritage or if Iranians will all have a decent chunk of Turkey and Caucasus

What's your new AncestryDNA ethnicity breakdown (i.e., with the new update)? I'm curious to see what results look like for other Iranians (and others from the region) after the new update so I can see how my results compare.

My original results were 91% Caucasus, 4% South Asia, 3% Mideast, and 2% Euro Jewish.

My new results are 76% Iran/Persia and 24% Turkey and the Caucasus.

Saba123
09-28-2018, 04:45 AM
What's your new AncestryDNA ethnicity breakdown (i.e., with the new update)? I'm curious to see what results look like for other Iranians (and others from the region) after the new update so I can see how my results compare.

My original results were 91% Caucasus, 4% South Asia, 3% Mideast, and 2% Euro Jewish.

My new results are 76% Iran/Persia and 24% Turkey and the Caucasus.

My new results are

Iran/Persia
94%
Turkey and the Caucasus
5%
Western and Central India
1%

My mom

Iran/Persia
89%
Turkey and the Caucasus
11%


My Aunt

Iran/Persia
92%
Turkey and the Caucasus
4%
Southern Asian
2%
Cameroon Congo Southern Bantu people
1%
Eastern African
1%

digital_noise
09-28-2018, 06:57 PM
My wife's:
95% Iran/Persia
5% Turkey/Caucasus

was

74% Caucasus
12% Asia South
9% Middle East
5% European Jewish

She doesnt care about this, but I think the new estimate, while accurate, basically eliminates any historical make up and just focuses on the present.

Syriac
10-08-2018, 09:05 AM
I don´t trust this DNA sites anymore but i will share mine. Most of DNA sites seem to have a sterotype. Nothing on us semite people they call us for caucasian.

I´am 100% Assyrian/Syriac and maybe Sumerian. This is mine:


Middle East
50%

Range: 42%—59%
Turkey and the Caucasus
50%

Range: 50%—66%

Nothing from other regions and nothing about etnicity. I was born in Turkey and we have lived in south east turkey many generations.

Erik
10-08-2018, 11:19 AM
I don´t trust this DNA sites anymore but i will share mine. Most of DNA sites seem to have a sterotype. Nothing on us semite people they call us for caucasian.

I´am 100% Assyrian/Syriac and maybe Sumerian. This is mine:


Middle East
50%

Range: 42%—59%
Turkey and the Caucasus
50%

Range: 50%—66%

Nothing from other regions and nothing about etnicity. I was born in Turkey and we have lived in south east turkey many generations.

Maybe Sumerian?

Syriac
10-08-2018, 01:17 PM
Maybe Sumerian?

Yes saw that to on some DNA site, when i uploaded raw data.

Erik
10-08-2018, 01:45 PM
Yes saw that to on some DNA site, when i uploaded raw data.

Interesting. That surprises me, as we don't have any Sumerian samples available (or at least since the last time I checked which wasn't too long ago).

Regardless, I'm sure that all of us with direct roots in the civilizations of the Ancient Near East likely have some Sumerian ancestors from a while back.

Syriac
10-08-2018, 02:02 PM
Interesting. That surprises me, as we don't have any Sumerian samples available (or at least since the last time I checked which wasn't too long ago).

Regardless, I'm sure that all of us with direct roots in the civilizations of the Ancient Near East likely have some Sumerian ancestors from a while back.


Sorry my misstake, it was city called Samara something.

Erik
10-08-2018, 02:10 PM
Sorry my misstake, it was city called Samara something.

Ah okay, makes a lot more sense now! Samara is in Russia though, so still a bit surprising.

Syriac
10-08-2018, 03:17 PM
What are my ancestors ?

I will post more in this middle eastern. I was born in Istanbul but my parents and generations atleast for maybe 1000 years er got our roots in south east Turkey.

My ancestry you got it in earlier post. I will post a few more.

DNA LAND:

West Eurasian 100%
Central Indoeuropean 62%
Arab/Egyptian 20%
Balkan 16%
Mediterranean Islander 1.7%

I dont know what they mean by balkan. I don´t got any roots to balkan. Indoeuropean that another very strange thing because i am semite and speak a arameic dialect that is called Syriac or as we says Toroyo or Suryoyo.

Familytree dna:

Middle Eastern 88%
Asia Minor 64%
West Middle East
Jewish Diaspora 9%
Sephardic 9%
Central/South Asian 2%
Central Asia

GEDmatch

Jtest Oracle results:


Jtest Oracle results:
Jtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

Kit A109243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 41.67
2 WEST_ASIAN 27.72
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 14.23
4 ASHKENAZI 5.51
5 WEST_MED 5.27
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.95
7 ATLANTIC 1.82
8 EAST_EURO 0.83

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 3.3
2 Mandean 4.35
3 Armenian 9.47
4 Kurdish 11.98
5 TR 13.59
6 IQ 13.63
7 IR 14.32
8 Druze 15.97
9 Samaritan 18.32
10 GR 22.55
11 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 24.57
12 GE 25.17
13 Lezgin 30.78
14 AJ 34.82
15 Tuscan 35.64
16 Brahui 37.48
17 Balochi 38.35
18 RO 38.67
19 North_Italian 40.05
20 Serbian 40.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% Mandean 2.77
2 93% Assyrian + 7% Druze 3.09
3 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Bedouin 3.14
4 94.9% Assyrian + 5.1% Samaritan 3.16
5 94.5% Assyrian + 5.5% IQ 3.21
6 100% Assyrian + 0% AJ 3.3
7 100% Assyrian + 0% Algerian 3.3
8 100% Assyrian + 0% Armenian 3.3
9 100% Assyrian + 0% AT 3.3
10 100% Assyrian + 0% Balochi 3.3
11 100% Assyrian + 0% Bangladeshi 3.3
12 100% Assyrian + 0% Belorussian 3.3
13 100% Assyrian + 0% Brahui 3.3
14 100% Assyrian + 0% Burusho 3.3
15 100% Assyrian + 0% Chinese 3.3
16 100% Assyrian + 0% Chukchi 3.3
17 100% Assyrian + 0% Cornish 3.3
18 100% Assyrian + 0% DK 3.3
19 100% Assyrian + 0% East_Finnish 3.3
20 100% Assyrian + 0% East_Russian 3.3



Let´s stop here i´am ASHKENAZI jew and earlier i was Sephardic jew, why ?

GEDMATCH another caluclator:

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 41.45
2 West_Asian 31.91
3 West_Med 12.7
4 Red_Sea 7.76
5 South_Asian 4.55
6 North_Atlantic 1.15
7 Oceanian 0.26
8 Siberian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 2.79
2 Kurdish_Jewish 3.79
3 Iranian_Jewish 4.59
4 Georgian_Jewish 6.68
5 Armenian 8.83
6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.48
7 Syrian 11.81
8 Lebanese_Druze 12.18
9 Lebanese_Christian 12.41
10 Cyprian 13.28
11 Turkish 13.41
12 Samaritan 14.42
13 Azeri 14.55
14 Kurdish 14.7
15 Iranian 15.37
16 Jordanian 15.96
17 Palestinian 16.86
18 Tunisian_Jewish 21.19
19 Bedouin 21.56
20 Libyan_Jewish 21.87

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89% Assyrian + 11% Lebanese_Christian 2.35
2 91.5% Assyrian + 8.5% Samaritan 2.46
3 68.7% Assyrian + 31.3% Kurdish_Jewish 2.46
4 90.7% Assyrian + 9.3% Lebanese_Druze 2.51
5 78% Assyrian + 22% Iranian_Jewish 2.58
6 93.4% Assyrian + 6.6% Cyprian 2.63
7 75.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 24.3% Armenian 2.65
8 97.7% Assyrian + 2.3% Yemenite_Jewish 2.69
9 95.9% Assyrian + 4.1% Palestinian 2.7
10 92.8% Assyrian + 7.2% Lebanese_Muslim 2.7
11 96.8% Assyrian + 3.2% Tunisian_Jewish 2.71
12 97% Assyrian + 3% Libyan_Jewish 2.71
13 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Algerian_Jewish 2.74
14 99% Assyrian + 1% Sardinian 2.74
15 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Italian_Jewish 2.74
16 96% Assyrian + 4% Syrian 2.75
17 98% Assyrian + 2% Sephardic_Jewish 2.75
18 97.3% Assyrian + 2.7% Jordanian 2.76
19 98.6% Assyrian + 1.4% Egyptian 2.76
20 98.9% Assyrian + 1.1% Saudi 2.77



What i´am ? I can´t be caucasian or indo european. I consider my self as Assyrian and semite would you come to same result ?
Is there any anicent Assyrian dna i can compare whit ?

I´am so proud that all empires that passed Turkey and middle east could not get us, no mongol blood and chingiz khan was in Turkey and Middle east.

Batroun
10-14-2018, 07:24 PM
What are my ancestors ?

I will post more in this middle eastern. I was born in Istanbul but my parents and generations atleast for maybe 1000 years er got our roots in south east Turkey.

My ancestry you got it in earlier post. I will post a few more.

DNA LAND:

West Eurasian 100%
Central Indoeuropean 62%
Arab/Egyptian 20%
Balkan 16%
Mediterranean Islander 1.7%

I dont know what they mean by balkan. I don´t got any roots to balkan. Indoeuropean that another very strange thing because i am semite and speak a arameic dialect that is called Syriac or as we says Toroyo or Suryoyo.

Familytree dna:

Middle Eastern 88%
Asia Minor 64%
West Middle East
Jewish Diaspora 9%
Sephardic 9%
Central/South Asian 2%
Central Asia

GEDmatch

Jtest Oracle results:


Jtest Oracle results:
Jtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

Kit A109243

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 41.67
2 WEST_ASIAN 27.72
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 14.23
4 ASHKENAZI 5.51
5 WEST_MED 5.27
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.95
7 ATLANTIC 1.82
8 EAST_EURO 0.83

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 3.3
2 Mandean 4.35
3 Armenian 9.47
4 Kurdish 11.98
5 TR 13.59
6 IQ 13.63
7 IR 14.32
8 Druze 15.97
9 Samaritan 18.32
10 GR 22.55
11 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 24.57
12 GE 25.17
13 Lezgin 30.78
14 AJ 34.82
15 Tuscan 35.64
16 Brahui 37.48
17 Balochi 38.35
18 RO 38.67
19 North_Italian 40.05
20 Serbian 40.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% Mandean 2.77
2 93% Assyrian + 7% Druze 3.09
3 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Bedouin 3.14
4 94.9% Assyrian + 5.1% Samaritan 3.16
5 94.5% Assyrian + 5.5% IQ 3.21
6 100% Assyrian + 0% AJ 3.3
7 100% Assyrian + 0% Algerian 3.3
8 100% Assyrian + 0% Armenian 3.3
9 100% Assyrian + 0% AT 3.3
10 100% Assyrian + 0% Balochi 3.3
11 100% Assyrian + 0% Bangladeshi 3.3
12 100% Assyrian + 0% Belorussian 3.3
13 100% Assyrian + 0% Brahui 3.3
14 100% Assyrian + 0% Burusho 3.3
15 100% Assyrian + 0% Chinese 3.3
16 100% Assyrian + 0% Chukchi 3.3
17 100% Assyrian + 0% Cornish 3.3
18 100% Assyrian + 0% DK 3.3
19 100% Assyrian + 0% East_Finnish 3.3
20 100% Assyrian + 0% East_Russian 3.3



Let´s stop here i´am ASHKENAZI jew and earlier i was Sephardic jew, why ?

GEDMATCH another caluclator:

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 41.45
2 West_Asian 31.91
3 West_Med 12.7
4 Red_Sea 7.76
5 South_Asian 4.55
6 North_Atlantic 1.15
7 Oceanian 0.26
8 Siberian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 2.79
2 Kurdish_Jewish 3.79
3 Iranian_Jewish 4.59
4 Georgian_Jewish 6.68
5 Armenian 8.83
6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.48
7 Syrian 11.81
8 Lebanese_Druze 12.18
9 Lebanese_Christian 12.41
10 Cyprian 13.28
11 Turkish 13.41
12 Samaritan 14.42
13 Azeri 14.55
14 Kurdish 14.7
15 Iranian 15.37
16 Jordanian 15.96
17 Palestinian 16.86
18 Tunisian_Jewish 21.19
19 Bedouin 21.56
20 Libyan_Jewish 21.87

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89% Assyrian + 11% Lebanese_Christian 2.35
2 91.5% Assyrian + 8.5% Samaritan 2.46
3 68.7% Assyrian + 31.3% Kurdish_Jewish 2.46
4 90.7% Assyrian + 9.3% Lebanese_Druze 2.51
5 78% Assyrian + 22% Iranian_Jewish 2.58
6 93.4% Assyrian + 6.6% Cyprian 2.63
7 75.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 24.3% Armenian 2.65
8 97.7% Assyrian + 2.3% Yemenite_Jewish 2.69
9 95.9% Assyrian + 4.1% Palestinian 2.7
10 92.8% Assyrian + 7.2% Lebanese_Muslim 2.7
11 96.8% Assyrian + 3.2% Tunisian_Jewish 2.71
12 97% Assyrian + 3% Libyan_Jewish 2.71
13 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Algerian_Jewish 2.74
14 99% Assyrian + 1% Sardinian 2.74
15 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Italian_Jewish 2.74
16 96% Assyrian + 4% Syrian 2.75
17 98% Assyrian + 2% Sephardic_Jewish 2.75
18 97.3% Assyrian + 2.7% Jordanian 2.76
19 98.6% Assyrian + 1.4% Egyptian 2.76
20 98.9% Assyrian + 1.1% Saudi 2.77



What i´am ? I can´t be caucasian or indo european. I consider my self as Assyrian and semite would you come to same result ?
Is there any anicent Assyrian dna i can compare whit ?

I´am so proud that all empires that passed Turkey and middle east could not get us, no mongol blood and chingiz khan was in Turkey and Middle east.

Ashkenazi, Sephardic ect.. come up because they have origins in the Near East. So it means you share a common ancient dna with them. This doesn't mean you are actually a decedent of Ashkenazi people.

Example: I am Lebanese, sometimes I get Jewish because most Jewish populations still retain a lot of DNA from the Levant. Both Lebanese and Jews share a common dna with very ancient proto-semitic populations.

When I compare my DNA to ancient samples, NOT commercial tests.. it becomes more realistic. Usually on Commercial tests I get Jewish, Arab, Italian, ect.. but when I compare with an ancient Caananite sample I am extremely close to it thus proving that I am mostly of Caananite-Phoenician admixture.

Also: Caucuses people migrated into the region. Many peoples from the Fertile Crescent have Kura Araxes related DNA from an ancient migration. This is before any civilization like Assyrians, Babylonians, Phoenicians ect.. emerged. I can't speak for Assyrians because I don't know enough but for Phoenician-Caananite people they are mainly a mix of Proto-Semitic, Caucuses, and small Indo-European percentage. I'm sure other people can explain Assyrians for you better.

Tihi Suryoye :beerchug:

drobbah
11-16-2018, 08:56 PM
Has anyone seen results from the Arabian Peninsula or Egypt? I am trying to pinpoint the origin of my mother's great grandmother via her MENA matches on AncestryDNA

andyouare
11-26-2018, 09:33 AM
Yes, it does.
Looking at their description, it says it's:
Primarily located in Syria, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Lebanon, Israel, Qatar, Bahrain and Egypt.
Also found in: Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Djibouti and Cyprus.

Am I the only one who thinks this is incredibly general? They merged like 4 or 5 regions into one. This test is close to useless for Arabs.

drobbah
12-05-2018, 02:02 AM
My mother has a couple Saudi matches that score 100% Middle Eastern and one member of the Bahraini Aal Khalifa clan who also scores 100%

andyouare
12-06-2018, 01:11 AM
Ashkenazi, Sephardic ect.. come up because they have origins in the Near East. So it means you share a common ancient dna with them. This doesn't mean you are actually a decedent of Ashkenazi people.

Example: I am Lebanese, sometimes I get Jewish because most Jewish populations still retain a lot of DNA from the Levant. Both Lebanese and Jews share a common dna with very ancient proto-semitic populations.

When I compare my DNA to ancient samples, NOT commercial tests.. it becomes more realistic. Usually on Commercial tests I get Jewish, Arab, Italian, ect.. but when I compare with an ancient Caananite sample I am extremely close to it thus proving that I am mostly of Caananite-Phoenician admixture.

Also: Caucuses people migrated into the region. Many peoples from the Fertile Crescent have Kura Araxes related DNA from an ancient migration. This is before any civilization like Assyrians, Babylonians, Phoenicians ect.. emerged. I can't speak for Assyrians because I don't know enough but for Phoenician-Caananite people they are mainly a mix of Proto-Semitic, Caucuses, and small Indo-European percentage. I'm sure other people can explain Assyrians for you better.

Tihi Suryoye :beerchug:

Curious as how you do this.