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Tomenable
10-27-2017, 02:08 PM
Living DNA has launched its Poland Project, I just joined (from Greater Poland):

https://www.livingdna.com/en-gb/one-family/research/poland

https://i.imgur.com/jx5iIHW.png

Tomenable
10-27-2017, 02:09 PM
"Poland
Living DNA, working with the world's leading academics, scientists and genealogists are seeking your help to extend the level of genetic detail within Poland.

About this project
Living DNA, working with the world's leading academics, scientists and genealogists are seeking your help. Together we are looking to map the world's genetic ancestry to the finest scale possible, one where we identify patterns of DNA within countries. The academic team who were involved in the landmark publication “The fine-scale genetic structure of the British population” are now looking to extend the level of genetic detail throughout Poland. Our preliminary research indicates at least 11 areas in Poland may have distinct genetic differences."

10-27-2017, 02:11 PM
Living DNA has launched its Poland Project, I just joined (from Greater Poland):

https://www.livingdna.com/en-gb/one-family/research/poland

https://i.imgur.com/jx5iIHW.png

Thanks I shall let my wife know, she is from Gostynin, near Plock( Masovia)

Tomenable
10-27-2017, 02:16 PM
I just uploaded my raw data to this Poland Project.

Estimated Completion Date: 30 October 2017 (!)

lukaszM
10-27-2017, 04:57 PM
What is that? Lubusz, Western Pomerania? They are crazy? They want to model post-war mixed population substructure in Western Poland?

What is Masuria according to them? It's Warmia, Powiśle and Elbląskie.

lukaszM
10-27-2017, 05:02 PM
But of course I uploaded my genome and parents genomes for free:)

My mother ancestry is from about 80 km near Lodz proximity so probably will be used in regional references. But why for Lesser Poland? Should be Central Poland region here.

lukaszM
10-27-2017, 05:26 PM
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Tomenable
10-27-2017, 05:52 PM
What is that? Lubusz, Western Pomerania? They are crazy? They want to model post-war mixed population substructure in Western Poland? (...)

Nope, of course not. You have to have all of your ancestors born in a given region:


To build a regional genetic breakdown of ancestry within countries, similar to ’The Peopling of the British Isles project’. This part of the project is looking for people with all four grandparents born within 80km (50miles) of each other.

I gave them info about birthplaces of my 4 grandparents and 8 great-grandparents.

lukaszM
10-27-2017, 05:58 PM
But what is Masuria? It's wrongly placed. Great and Lesser Poland also are too big. What is Northern Masovia. I must write to them.


But they allow everybody to join. Not only those with strict regional ancestry. And both kinds of people can transfer for free RAWDATA. Also from all over the world https://www.livingdna.com/en-gb/one-family/research


The one family project is open to everyone worldwide and has two parts.

To build a genetic family tree of everyone from around the world, regardless of where your family comes from.
To build a regional genetic breakdown of ancestry within countries, similar to ’The Peopling of the British Isles project’. This part of the project is looking for people with all four grandparents born within 80km (50miles) of each other.

If you qualify for the second part of the project and don’t have DNA results to upload for free, then you will receive a special discount on a Living DNA test should you wish to take part.

How do I take part?

Fill in a short survey about your family ancestry to sign up for the project.

Upload your existing autosomal raw DNA data from your current provider, FREE of charge
Or, if you don't have existing DNA results yet, you can take a Living DNA test (you will get a discount if you qualify for part 2 of the project)






So regional ancestry is only bonus when you want to buy their kit:) Transfer is free to everybody

My mother qualifies for regional, but of course I registered mine and my father also.

How long you waited for instruction?

lukaszM
10-27-2017, 06:01 PM
What is that? Lubusz, Western Pomerania? They are crazy? They want to model post-war mixed population substructure in Western Poland? (...)

Nope, of course not. You have to have all of your ancestors born in a given region:
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It's not an answer to my question. So they wanted German people from this area? Because if somebody is young can have even grandparents born in former German lands and all could be Polish migrants after war:) But it doesn't matter becasue even without regional ancestry you can transfer raw data for free.

Mis
10-27-2017, 06:16 PM
Coś mi to wygląda na wyłudzenie danych.

lukaszM
10-27-2017, 06:21 PM
Mi też trochę, ale spróbowac warto. Na razie na nic nie odpisali po potwierdzeniu emaila. Moze trzeba zaczekać do poniedziałku, aż wrócą do pracy.

lukaszM
10-27-2017, 06:28 PM
Tu jest wątek, ludzie z róznych krajów już uploadują za friko http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?12435-One-family-one-world-project

Tomenable
10-27-2017, 06:34 PM
Yes but they also added many new country projects / regional projects.

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BTW, here is a map of counties superimposed on Google Map:

https://www.google.pl/maps/@49.1159924,16.3008956,5z/data=!4m2!6m1!1s14KK-kS5WgUPntPaLwq6M_m_NTy8?hl=en

Tomenable
10-29-2017, 01:08 AM
It turns out that Maciamo designed that map of Polish regions.

I just told him that some changes are necessary, and made the following map with my own suggested division of Poland into 15 regions (thanks LukaszM and Rethel for your advice):

https://i.imgur.com/M68llFO.png

https://i.imgur.com/M68llFO.png

^^^ 15 regions in total for Poland:

- Pomerania
- Kashubia (or Pomerelia, if you prefer this name)
- Northern Poland*
- Oberland (Upper Prussia, Prusy Górne; west part of East Prussia)
- Warmia-Masuria**
- Sudovia-Podlachia (Sudovia is too small to be its own thing)
- Neumark (or East Brandenburg, if you prefer)
- Greater Poland
- Central Poland (or Sieradz-Leczyca if you prefer)
- Masovia (Mazovia)
- Lower Silesia (historically as far north as Crossen-Schwiebus)
- Upper Silesia (including Cieszyn, Syców & Namysłów regions)
- Polish Mountains
- Lesser Poland
- Red Ruthenia

*Includes 11 smaller regions: Kuyavia, Krajna, Dobrzyn Land, Chelmno Land, Tuchola Forests, Kociewie, Powisle, Lubawa Land, Kosznajderia, Free City Danzig (Gdańsk), Żuławy (Malbork-Elbląg area).

**Includes entire Masuria but only southern half of Warmia, with Polish-speaking Warmiaks.

Tomenable
10-29-2017, 10:50 AM
^^^
Compared to borders of administrative counties as of year 1900:

https://i.imgur.com/A2UP9iJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/A2UP9iJ.png

Waldemar
10-30-2017, 07:23 AM
Order Date: 27 October 2017

Test Reference: LTxxxxx

Status: Order placed

Estimated Completion Date: 6 August 2018

Test Type: DNA Ancestry Test

famatus
10-31-2017, 09:21 PM
Why Polish Lithuania is not distinguished? It is a genetically stable region.

Tomenable
11-01-2017, 12:14 AM
Why Polish Lithuania is not distinguished? It is a genetically stable region.

Do you mean Suwałki Region? Or Polish-inhabited parts of Lithuania?

famatus
11-01-2017, 06:37 PM
I mean genetics, not linguistics.

lukaszM
11-03-2017, 03:57 PM
Living DNA won't give you ethnictiy estimate for free upload. But this project hasn't even started yet...

Ancestry DNA since few days offer breakdown of Polish regions (on this list they mix big regions and sub-regions).

Mazowsze i Łódzkie
Pomorze
Świętokrzyskie
Małopolska
Karpaty (Tatra)?
Wschodnai Słowacja i południowa Polska (Podkarpacie?)

https://www.ancestrycdn.com/support/us/2017/11/list.png

Pannonius
11-30-2017, 12:30 AM
Is this map saying there were that many Polish settlers in Slovakia or the Gorals?

Tomenable
12-10-2017, 02:03 AM
PCA with Polish regional averages superimposed on a map:

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?12906-PCA-vs-Map-of-Polish-regions&p=322822&viewfull=1#post322822

Jokli
09-06-2019, 11:05 PM
Is there any update on this subject available?