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shazou
10-30-2017, 10:59 AM
www.xcode.in

They accept raw data from 23andme/Ancestry/FTDNA etc, and for a small fee to see your ancestry origins breakdown..

firemonkey
10-30-2017, 11:04 AM
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firemonkey
10-30-2017, 11:41 AM
Finally registered but seems to be a scam or seriously flawed . Registered and got an order confirmation that states email I used to register with. However when I attempt to sign in the email address is rejected.

firemonkey
10-30-2017, 12:08 PM
Just got this.



Dear Tim,

We have received your order. We are in the process of upgrading our site and the login error might be due to the transition. Will pass on your query to our technical team and have the login error fixed. Apologies for the inconvenience caused.

Once the login is fixed, you will see a data upload option. Please upload your genetic data through your account dashboard and we will generate the reports within 48 hours of receipt of data.

MacUalraig
10-30-2017, 12:55 PM
I looked for an about-us page but it only gives the first names of the guys at the top...

https://www.xcode.in/about-us

firemonkey
10-30-2017, 12:59 PM
Site currently unavailable again.

firemonkey
10-30-2017, 10:29 PM
Paid for it and registered(or so I thought). Tried logging in but email was rejected .Turned out it was a guest account. They've supposedly set up an account for me but email is still being rejected. Hence unable to upload data. To add to this site was down for large stretches of time. They claim they're upgrading their site.

jortita
11-01-2017, 10:39 PM
After some amount of correspondence with the xcode DNA people, I successfully uploaded my living dna data file an hour ago. They indicate 48 hours for providing ancestry results. In terms of email, they are extremely responsive and respond during working hours within 10 minutes

jortita
11-01-2017, 10:40 PM
I was recently in Jakarta for a conference, every Indonesian spoke to me in Bhasa and both people from Myanmar and other western delegates thought I was from Myanmar, so curious to see what the results from an Indian based ancestry testing company would look like

firemonkey
11-02-2017, 04:40 AM
Problems again . Having successfully logged into my account the other day to upload data I am now getting told "Error: A user could not be found with this email address."

timberwolf
11-02-2017, 04:56 AM
Problems again . Having successfully logged into my account the other day to upload data I am now getting told "Error: A user could not be found with this email address.",
When do you expect your results?

firemonkey
11-02-2017, 04:59 AM
Today or tomorrow from what they said. However judging from the current cock up -12th of never?!

firemonkey
11-02-2017, 05:03 AM
They are very responsive to emails, but I'm wondering about their technical capabilities.

timberwolf
11-02-2017, 05:07 AM
Ok

Hopefully they will sort it, by then.

It will be interesting what, results they will come back with.

firemonkey
11-02-2017, 08:02 AM
Trying to login to the site I get an 'Email not found' error message. However the tech team for the site are able to login using that email address. I have tried after clearing cache and cookies.

firemonkey
11-02-2017, 10:01 AM
Now able to login, but no results within 48 hours..

firemonkey
11-02-2017, 06:31 PM
Results. Only gives me European breakdown at sub level. Maternal haplogroup is wrong ,it should be H67. Paternal haplogroup is right as far as it goes.

Descriptions will be in next post.


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firemonkey
11-02-2017, 06:35 PM
Descriptions. I'll leave it to you as to how good these are.

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lilac9
11-02-2017, 07:00 PM
Ah I would like to get a further breakdown of my Dad's mt-dna since Wegene didn't go a subclade further than they did with my mt-dna. But you said they did yours wrong.

How did the Ancestry breakdown compare to other companies?

firemonkey
11-02-2017, 07:15 PM
I would say the Ancestry breakdown isn't that good. The East Asia/South Asia and Americas is way too high. At sub population level I've never got Iberian before , and only got Italy/Greece as a trace region(<1%) with Ancestry.

I'm a sucker for these things , but unless you have South Asian/Indian ancestry my opinion is give this one a miss .

timberwolf
11-02-2017, 07:41 PM
I would say the Ancestry breakdown isn't that good. The East Asia/South Asia and Americas is way too high. At sub population level I've never got Iberian before , and only got Italy/Greece as a trace region(<1%) with Ancestry.

I'm a sucker for these things , but unless you have South Asian/Indian ancestry my opinion is give this one a miss .

Thanks Firemonkey.

I will take your advice and give it a miss.

gotten
11-02-2017, 11:06 PM
.. Maternal haplogroup is wrong ,it should be H67. Paternal haplogroup is right as far as it goes.


The maternal haplogroup that they find is exactly the human reference genome's (CRS) haplogroup, so either the data lacks identifying calls that lead from H2a2a1 to H67 or their software is not very robust (or both).

firemonkey
11-02-2017, 11:47 PM
The maternal haplogroup that they find is exactly the human reference genome's (CRS) haplogroup, so either the data lacks identifying calls that lead from H2a2a1 to H67 or their software is not very robust (or both).

That raises a question for me. Would it have mattered that I uploaded 23andMe data? 23andMe being poor themselves at assigning haplogroups with the data they produce.
There they give me H as opposed to H67 at FTDNA for maternal. They give me E-V13 as opposed to E-BY5219 with FTDNA/ E-Z16664 with Yfull .

gotten
11-03-2017, 12:11 AM
The 23 and me data only tests about 2700 snps on the mtDNA. They have to make conclusions with an incomplete set of sometimes recurring mutations. Even though the reference genome is H2a2a1 that does not mean if the data lacks calls leading away from it that your kit has to be H2a2a1 (although it could have been H2a2a1). Based on the 23andme data it can probably be any of a poorly constrained set of haplogroups. In that case the H call is a better representation, but that would need at least calls at positions 2706 and 7028, but these are often included on the chips.

You can always doublecheck with James Lick's predictor: here (https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/)

jortita
11-03-2017, 01:20 AM
I would say the Ancestry breakdown isn't that good. The East Asia/South Asia and Americas is way too high. At sub population level I've never got Iberian before , and only got Italy/Greece as a trace region(<1%) with Ancestry.

I'm a sucker for these things , but unless you have South Asian/Indian ancestry my opinion is give this one a miss .

I have a feeling this might correspond to your Kurd's K12 Ancient Calculator as the components seem to be Ancient, you score reasonable Karasuk/Scythian and some Eastern non African as well as South Asian related components on that calculator

jortita
11-08-2017, 08:55 AM
Posting my Living DNA raw data related results

YOUR GLOBAL ANCESTRY COMPOSITION
South Asia 62.42%
East Asia 16.88%
Europe 14.19%
Africa 6.09%
The Americas 0.41%
South Asia
62.4 %
East Asia
16.9 %
Europe
14.2 %
Africa
6.1 %
The Americas

YOUR SOUTH ASIAN ANCESTRY COMPOSITION
Ancestral North Indians 64.15%
Ancestral Austro Asiatics &
Ancestral Tibeto Burmans
20.02%
Ancestral South Indians 15.84%


DNA compared against Indo-European
Bengali, Bhunjia, Brahmins from Uttar Pradesh, Brahmins
from Uttaranchal, Chamar, Dharkars, Dusadh, Kanjars,
Kurmi, Kol, Kshatriya, Meena, Meghawal, Muslim, Tharus,
Uttar Pradesh Scheduled Caste

DNA compared against Dravidian
Brahmins from Tamil Nadu, Chenchus, Dhurwa, Gond,
Hakkikipikki, Kurumba, Lambadi, Piramalai Kallars, Pulliyar,
Tamil Nadu Scheduled Caste,Velamas

DNA compared against Austro Asiatic
Asur, Bonda, Gadaba, Ho, Juang, Kharia, Khasi, Mawasi,
Santhal, Savara, Burmese, Garo

DNa compared againstTibeto-Burman
Naga

Not sure what to make of these results, I have sought some clarification. No other calculator has given me such high ANI percentages. They have also wrongly group Burmese and Garo under Austro-Asiatic

Kylo_Ren
11-08-2017, 10:52 AM
My Results:

Global Ancestry Composition:

Europe 86.02%
South Asia 6.71%
Africa 4.22%
East Asia 2.68%
The Americas 0.38%

European Sub-populations:

Utah Residents with
Northern and Western
European Ancestry
47.98%
Italian 40.03%
Iberian 6%
Finnish 6%

saleem
11-10-2017, 04:57 AM
I am writing from Xcode and saw that some of you were having issues with the website. We have resolved all these issues. Your feedback is important to us.

For most ancestry companies, the accuracy of the service is as good as the reference database being used. Since we heavily rely on public databases like 1KGP and HGDP, if your population of interest does not exist within them, then the algorithms try and match with the closest population present in the reference database. So before you use any ancestry service, my suggestion to you is to read what populations exist in the reference population. Xcode specializes in south asian ancestry and so if you are looking to get more information on European ancestry, then this may not be right place for you (at least today). We are working on adding more samples with European ancestry. There are projects like the Dodecad and Eurogenes which do a deep-dive in to European ancestry. Another tool to try is Gedmatch in case you haven't already.

Appreciate you all giving this feedback :)

Thanks,
Saleem

watson_j
11-10-2017, 05:15 AM
Finally registered but seems to be a scam or seriously flawed . Registered and got an order confirmation that states email I used to register with. However when I attempt to sign in the email address is rejected.

There was a recent site migration. Many of these issues where due to site migration. It should all be sorted out now.

Arlus
11-22-2017, 07:16 PM
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I don't know what do they include in ANI but it's way too high for me(I should have ANI in 40s range if I am right). They give 'tharu' as closest population which I get on some other calculators too.

TheAvan999
12-18-2017, 06:03 AM
It is not a scam. It is a legit company that offers superb nutrition, health, fitness, allergy reports at a nominal price (starts at $10).

lukaszM
12-20-2017, 10:54 AM
It is not a scam. It is a legit company that offers superb nutrition, health, fitness, allergy reports at a nominal price (starts at $10).

Haha, sock account of them.

jortita
05-24-2018, 06:34 AM
Ancestry DNA xCode results

Global (in %)
South Asian 54.08
East Asian 14.72
Southeast Asian 11.85
European 8.43
African 4.18
West Asian and Middle Eastern 3.68
Oceanian 3.05
American 0.01

Within South Asian (in %)
[ANI] Sindhi 22.83
[ANI] Chamar 19.68
[ATB] Burmese 17.23
[ANI] Gujarati 8.56
[ASI] Velamas 8.33
[ANI] Punjabi 6.42
[AAA] Naga 5.07
[ASI] Telugu 2.95
[ANI] Dharkars 2.4
[ANI] Kol 2.2
[ANI] Dusadh 1.65
[ASI] Pulliyar 1.43
[ASI] Srilankan Tamils 1.24

Within East Asian (in %)
Uygur 54.23
Dai 17.99
Yi 10.82
Hezhen 9.97
Lahu 2.71
Japanese 2.6
Nonspecific Chinese 1.18
Naxi 0.5

Within Southeast Asian (in %)
Malay 53.1
Vietnamese 33.24
Cambodian 5.21
Dusun 4.31
Murut 2.77
Kankaney 1.37

Within European (in %)
Russian 84.7
Georgian 8.14
Finnish 7.15
British 0

jortita
05-24-2018, 10:12 AM
They have updated their algorithm and as long as you upload the file for which you had got your ancestry report previously, they will update your results for free. I have also received updated Living DNA results

jortita
05-24-2018, 10:14 AM
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I don't know what do they include in ANI but it's way too high for me(I should have ANI in 40s range if I am right). They give 'tharu' as closest population which I get on some other calculators too.

Arlus they have updated their algorithm and you will find my new results on the thread. If you send them an email and then upload the same raw DNA file on their site, they will send you your updated report. It would be good to compare our results, thanks

firemonkey
05-24-2018, 02:38 PM
Here's updated reports for 23and me first and then Living dna. Globally there is a big difference. Living dna data seems to produce odd results.


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SWAHILLI_PRINCE16
05-24-2018, 06:45 PM
Here my results i got 90.59% African when i usually get 94-95% on other tests i wonder what my mum and dad will get.
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jortita
05-25-2018, 03:33 AM
Here's updated reports for 23and me first and then Living dna. Globally there is a big difference. Living dna data seems to produce odd results.


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I agree as my Living DNA results are also quite different. I think the updated algorithm makes sense, the only ancestry I am puzzled by is Uyghur type and hence I have sought clarification

Mixed
05-25-2018, 11:07 AM
I did mine with 23&me V3. I have to say by far this has been one of the best reports. It's not even close.

ssamlal
05-26-2018, 04:16 AM
I see two different prices listed on their website for the Ancestry report ($20 on the report info page and $40 on the order page). I wouldn't say that $40 is nominal (assuming that it's USD)

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** Edit 5/26 **
They've updated the report info page. The price now shows $40.

firemonkey
05-26-2018, 12:29 PM
Ancestry dna upload. I don't know why I got a detailed breakdown for African and American as both are under 5%.


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Mixed
05-26-2018, 12:45 PM
Ancestry dna upload. I don't know why I got a detailed breakdown for African and American as both are under 5%.


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23464

The one thing I think might be missing from their algorithm is German. Other than that like what they offer. Impressed with their detail.

nuplix
05-26-2018, 11:28 PM
Got my results!

https://i.imgur.com/wnQgb7R.png

SWAHILLI_PRINCE16
05-26-2018, 11:32 PM
i shouldv'e saved that $40 :doh:

Mixed
05-26-2018, 11:52 PM
Got my results!

https://i.imgur.com/wnQgb7R.png

That's not the detailed breakdown.

Mixed
05-26-2018, 11:53 PM
i shouldv'e saved that $40 :doh:

They don't do too bad. Look at the other samples on page 4 or firemonkey's results on this page.

jortita
05-27-2018, 06:24 AM
Ancestry dna upload. I don't know why I got a detailed breakdown for African and American as both are under 5%.


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23463
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Have you requested them to check your SE Asian ancestry, it does not seem correct, they might have confused it with somebody elses sample

firemonkey
05-27-2018, 10:37 AM
Have you requested them to check your SE Asian ancestry, it does not seem correct, they might have confused it with somebody elses sample

No,I haven't . To tell you the truth I don't know what to make of the Ancestry and Living dna upload results which are far more mixed than the almost exclusively European 23andMe upload results. I am failing to see how I can really get much of anything non -European with the possible exception of West Asian and Middle East . I have no knowledge of Cypriot ancestry but it does seem funny that I get above noise levels of Mediterranean islander(dna land uploads), East Mediterranean(Gencove and Geneplaza uploads) and Lebanese Cypriot(Dna tribes uploads)

Mixed
05-27-2018, 02:44 PM
No,I haven't . To tell you the truth I don't know what to make of the Ancestry and Living dna upload results which are far more mixed than the almost exclusively European 23andMe upload results. I am failing to see how I can really get much of anything non -European with the possible exception of possibly West Asian and Middle Asian . I have no knowledge of Cypriot ancestry but it does seem funny that I get above noise levels of Mediterranean islander(dna land uploads), East Mediterranean(Gencove and Geneplaza uploads) and Lebanese Cypriot(Dna tribes uploads)

I think their results are far from perfect but there is worst.

firemonkey
05-28-2018, 07:39 AM
Cypriot and Druze above 2% global. Father's mixed mode



MDLP 22

8 89.1% Swedish (derived) + 10.9% Cypriot (derived) @ 1.32

Dodecad world 9

16 95.7% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 4.3% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.85


HarappaWorld

8 95.8% utahn-white (hapmap) + 4.2% cypriot (behar) @ 1.09


Eurasia K9

19 90.1% English + 9.9% Cypriot @ 1.42


Eurasia K6

6 81% Estonian + 19% Cypriot @ 0.99
14 95.4% Ukrainian + 4.6% Cypriot @ 1.12


Dodecad v3

8 96.6% Orcadian (HGDP) + 3.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.83
10 96.1% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 3.9% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.84


Dodecad world 9

18 96.3% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 3.7% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.86



HarappaWorld


14 96.6% utahn-white (hapmap) + 3.4% druze (hgdp) @ 1.29
20 96.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 3.6% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 1.4


Eurasia K9


4 91% English + 9% Druze @ 1.21


Eurasia K6

16 95.9% Ukrainian + 4.1% Druze @ 1.17

jonahst
05-28-2018, 08:07 AM
Definitely interesting results, not sure how seriously I should take them though. Reminds me a lot of DNA Tribes and 24 Genetics. I do think it's interesting that they label Georgian as European. My guess it that Cyprus is basically the same as Lebanese since there's no Lebanese.
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It annoys me how they break things down so it's hard to actually see what % each individual population is without doing extra calculations on your own. Needless to say, I did those calculations.

16% Cyprus
9% Georgian
8% Russian
7% Druze
6% Palestinian
6% Saudi
6% Sindh
5% Uygur
3% Italian
3% Nonspecific African
3% British
2% Kosovo
2% Hazara
2% Kalash
2% Basque
2% Parsi
2% Sardinian
1% Turkmenistan
1% Brahui
1% Burusho
1% Samaritan
1% Yemenese
1% Gujarati
1% Maasai

Sizzles
05-29-2018, 11:37 PM
Removed

digital_noise
06-06-2018, 05:02 PM
I concur about the annoying need to recalculate the %. I did not do that :)

Results are interesting, not sure how serious I should take them, although they are not totally absurd.

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jonahst
06-06-2018, 05:43 PM
I concur about the annoying need to recalculate the %. I did not do that :)

Results are interesting, not sure how serious I should take them, although they are not totally absurd.

23724

What's your background? I see you have an Italian flag but only got around 7% Italy (overall). I was surprised by how little Italy I got since I often get high Italy in other calculators.

digital_noise
06-06-2018, 05:51 PM
More or less I am 50% English and NW Euro (Swedish gets lumped in here), 25-30% Italian, 10% Eastern Euro of unknown origin, most likely Balkan or Ukranian. No clue where that comes from honestly...The remaining % is for the other numbers to adjust.

The more I look at these results, the more off they seem to be honest. Although I would assume the Georgian, Sardinian, Kosovo comes from the Italian side of things so add everything up...

Kylo_Ren
10-04-2018, 11:34 AM
New Xcode 2.0 is in a beta phase right now.

shazou
10-06-2018, 11:45 AM
Xcode Life Origin 2.0

https://i.imgur.com/UMyYc0j.jpg

jortita
10-08-2018, 01:45 AM
South Asian: 100%; Bengali: 100%

I think this smoothing technique is horribly wrong for people in Asia with mixed ancestry. I am not at all 100% Bengali as I was with Bengalis and recently in Bangladesh where they thought I was ethnic minority from Chittagong Hill Tracts or otherwise Thai.

Admixture Based

Global

South Asian 54.08%
East Asian 14.72%
Southeast Asian 11.85%
European 8.43%
African 4.18%
West Asian and Middle Eastern 3.68%
Oceanian 3.05%
American 0.01%

South Asian
ANI Sindhi 21.28
ANI Chamar 19.68
ATB Burmese 17.23
ANI Gujarati 10.11
ASI Velamas 8.33
ANI Punjabi 6.42
AAA Naga 5.07
ASI Telugu 2.95
ANI Dharkars 2.40
ANI Kol 2.20
ANI Dusadh 1.65
ASI Pulliyar 1.43
ASI Sri Lankan Tamils 1.24

East Asian
Uygur 54.23
Dai 17.99
Yi 10.82
Hezhen 9.97
Lahu 2.71
Japanese 2.60
Nonspecific Chinese 1.18
Naxi 0.50

Southeast Asian
Malay 53.10
Vietnamese 33.24
Cambodian 5.21
Dusun 4.31
Murut 2.77
Kankaney 1.37

European
Russian 84.69
Georgian 8.15
Finnish 7.16

therrien.joel
11-26-2018, 02:28 AM
The machine learning output is probably dependent on them knowing the ancestry of the samples they trained it on good enough... which is probably not that great. Reminds me of how someone tried making an AI years back that would identify tanks in an image. After training the system, they ended up realizing that all the images of tanks had cloud cover; they made an AI that could tell you if it was cloudy!

This is what my grandmother's Ancestry data gave:

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johnthe
12-03-2018, 03:09 AM
From my experience Xcode isnt even accurate on the continental level and the ethnicities listed were way off. Ex: I got a massive percentage of Russian (im not even eastern european), 5% African (never gotten that even on gedmatch), 9% southeast asian (again, ive never gotten that on any testing service), etc

physical-anthro
12-12-2018, 12:49 PM
From my experience Xcode isnt even accurate on the continental level and the ethnicities listed were way off. Ex: I got a massive percentage of Russian (im not even eastern european), 5% African (never gotten that even on gedmatch), 9% southeast asian (again, ive never gotten that on any testing service), etc

Nope it is very exact for me.

johnthe
01-02-2019, 02:19 PM
I guess they must be more accurate for southeast Asians. Did you notice any high levels of Sub Saharan African or Eastern European which may not have been applicable?