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Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 02:57 PM
We tested my grandmother, and these are her results. What does everyone think?

3 of her grandparents were right from Portugal, 1 of her grandparents was Cape Verdean from Brava, which is the most European island in the chain.

Odd thing is in addition to the expected African shift, she also has more NE European admixture than the Iberian average. I don't understand why this is. She can either be modeled as Iberian + SSA, or Iberian + NE European.


Here are all of her GEDMatch results.

MDLP K11:
# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 40.87
2 WHG 27.64
3 EHG 18.75
4 Basal 7.86
5 African 4.49
6 Amerindian 0.32
7 Siberian 0.07


MDLP K23b:
# Population Percent
1 European_Early_Farmers 37.61
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 26.12
3 Caucasian 18.93
4 Near_East 4.95
5 North_African 3.6
6 East_African 3.09
7 Archaic_African 1.69
8 Ancestral_Altaic 1.69
9 Paleo_Siberian 1.19
10 Arctic 0.83
11 African_Pygmy 0.2
12 South_Central_Asian 0.07
13 Archaic_Human 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Portugese ( ) 7.11
2 French ( ) 7.13
3 Spaniard ( ) 7.68
4 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) 8.46
5 Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) 8.55
6 Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) 9.08
7 Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) 9.46
8 Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) 9.59
9 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) 10.07
10 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 10.57
11 Welsh ( ) 10.73
12 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 11.12
13 British ( ) 11.23
14 CEU ( ) 11.44
15 Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) 11.67
16 North_European ( ) 12.46
17 Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) 13.01
18 Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) 13.05
19 English ( ) 13.1
20 Orcadian ( ) 13.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.6% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 15.4% Pole ( ) @ 4.61
2 76.6% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 23.4% German_East ( ) @ 4.64
3 75.6% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) + 24.4% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 4.64
4 91% Spaniard ( ) + 9% Ethiopian_Tygray ( ) @ 4.66
5 83.8% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 16.2% Ukrainian_Center ( ) @ 4.66
6 83.5% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 16.5% Belarusian_West ( ) @ 4.67
7 85.4% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 14.6% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 4.67
8 85.4% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 14.6% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 4.68
9 82.9% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) + 17.1% Lithuanian ( ) @ 4.68
10 84.3% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 15.7% Ukrainian ( ) @ 4.68
11 82.7% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 17.3% Ukrainian_West ( ) @ 4.7
12 74.1% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) + 25.9% German_East ( ) @ 4.71
13 82% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) + 18% Estonian ( ) @ 4.71
14 79% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 21% Hungarian ( ) @ 4.72
15 81.1% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 18.9% Slovak ( ) @ 4.72
16 82% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 18% Sorb ( ) @ 4.72
17 84% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 16% Ukrainian_East ( ) @ 4.72
18 85% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 15% Belarusian ( ) @ 4.72
19 75.9% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 24.1% Austrian ( ) @ 4.72
20 91.3% Spaniard ( ) + 8.7% Afar_WGA ( ) @ 4.73


MDLP World22:
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 37.46
2 North-East-European 36.82
3 Near_East 11.44
4 West-Asian 5.91
5 North-European-Mesolithic 2.46
6 Sub-Saharian 2.43
7 South-African 1.11
8 Indian 0.95
9 Samoedic 0.83
10 Melanesian 0.59

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Swiss (derived) 6.2
2 Italian_North (derived) 7.8
3 Provancestralal (derived) 8.25
4 Montenegrin (derived) 9.06
5 German-South (derived) 9.63
6 Macedonian (derived) 9.73
7 French (derived) 10.07
8 Bulgarian (derived) 10.19
9 Portugese (derived) 10.59
10 Serbian (derived) 10.79
11 Romania (derived) 11.06
12 Iberian (derived) 11.91
13 Spaniard (derived) 12.56
14 Gagauz (derived) 12.63
15 Italian-North (derived) 13.24
16 CEU (derived) 14.01
17 British (derived) 14.21
18 Corsican (derived) 14.58
19 Austrian (derived) 14.99
20 Ashkenazim_V (derived) 15.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.9% Portugese (derived) + 27.1% Latvian_V (derived) @ 3.16
2 83.4% German-South (derived) + 16.6% Mozabite (derived) @ 3.37
3 69.8% Hungarian (derived) + 30.2% Otzi (derived) @ 3.39
4 77.8% Portugese (derived) + 22.2% Moldavian (derived) @ 3.4
5 67% Portugese (derived) + 33% Croatian_V (derived) @ 3.42
6 74.6% Portugese (derived) + 25.4% Mordovian_V (derived) @ 3.42
7 77.2% Portugese (derived) + 22.8% Mordovian (derived) @ 3.43
8 74.3% Portugese (derived) + 25.7% Ukrainian_V (derived) @ 3.61
9 78% Portugese (derived) + 22% Russian_North (derived) @ 3.62
10 76.9% Portugese (derived) + 23.1% Russian_V (derived) @ 3.66
11 73.4% Portugese (derived) + 26.6% Ukrainian-West (derived) @ 3.72
12 66.2% German (derived) + 33.8% Otzi (derived) @ 3.72
13 75.1% Portugese (derived) + 24.9% Ukrainian-Center (derived) @ 3.73
14 69.3% Croatian (derived) + 30.7% Otzi (derived) @ 3.8
15 77% Portugese (derived) + 23% Ukrainian-East (derived) @ 3.83
16 55.2% Ukrainian-Center (derived) + 44.8% Otzi (derived) @ 3.84
17 64.5% Croatian_V (derived) + 35.5% Otzi (derived) @ 3.86
18 77.5% Portugese (derived) + 22.5% Russian_South (derived) @ 3.86
19 73% Portugese (derived) + 27% Tatar_Kryashen (derived) @ 3.88
20 77.1% Portugese (derived) + 22.9% Ukrainian (derived) @ 3.89


MDLP World:
# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 46.61
2 North_and_East_European 29.52
3 Middle_East 12.84
4 Caucaus_Parsia 5.56
5 Sub_Saharian 3.12
6 Indian 1.45
7 Paleo_African 0.91

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Swiss 7.08
2 Montenegrin 7.58
3 Macedonian 7.98
4 Serbian 8.13
5 Provancal 8.33
6 Italian_North 8.98
7 Bulgarian 9.07
8 Portugese 9.41
9 German-South 9.94
10 Bosnian 10.57
11 French 10.89
12 Croatian 11.54
13 Romania 11.65
14 Gagauz 11.75
15 Iberian 11.91
16 Austrian 12.56
17 Spaniard 12.59
18 Hungarian 12.66
19 Italian-North 13.05
20 Slovenian 13.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.3% Portugese + 16.7% Finnish-North @ 2.99
2 59.4% Ukrainian-Center + 40.6% Otzi @ 3.18
3 61.2% Ukrainian_V + 38.8% Otzi @ 3.21
4 82.9% Portugese + 17.1% Vepsa @ 3.24
5 82.6% German-South + 17.4% Mozabite @ 3.26
6 69.5% Croatian_V + 30.5% Otzi @ 3.27
7 62% Ukrainian-West + 38% Otzi @ 3.3
8 81.8% Portugese + 18.2% Finnish-South @ 3.34
9 57.7% Ukrainian-East + 42.3% Otzi @ 3.42
10 86.7% Portugese + 13.3% Saami @ 3.5
11 81.9% Portugese + 18.1% Karelian @ 3.53
12 80.8% Portugese + 19.2% Finnish @ 3.54
13 77.2% Portugese + 22.8% Moldavian @ 3.54
14 79.3% Portugese + 20.7% Russian_North @ 3.59
15 68.9% Portugese + 31.1% Latvian_V @ 3.59
16 56.7% Russian_South + 43.3% Otzi @ 3.73
17 62.7% Portugese + 37.3% Croatian_V @ 3.74
18 87.8% French + 12.2% Jew_Ethiopia @ 3.77
19 83.9% German-South + 16.1% Moroccan @ 3.77
20 77.4% Portugese + 22.6% Mordovian @ 3.78


MDLP K13:
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 42.99
2 West_Med 25.08
3 Baltic 11.38
4 East_Med 10.69
5 Red_Sea 3.57
6 Northeast_African 3.47
7 East_Asian 1.28
8 Sub-Saharan 0.87
9 West_Asian 0.43
10 Oceanian 0.14
11 Amerindian 0.09
12 South_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 3.54
2 Spanish_Cataluna 5.22
3 Spanish_Cantabria 5.33
4 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.35
5 Spanish_Galicia 5.36
6 Spanish_Murcia 5.45
7 Portuguese 5.58
8 Spanish_Aragon 6.5
9 Spanish_Valencia 6.54
10 Spanish_Extremadura 6.57
11 Southwest_French 7.19
12 Spanish_Andalucia 7.7
13 French 9.32
14 North_Italian 14.19
15 South_Dutch 14.72
16 West_German 15.38
17 French_Basque 15.87
18 Southwest_English 17.73
19 Southeast_English 17.79
20 Tuscan 19.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 10.3% Southwest_English @ 2.92
2 91.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 8.7% West_Scottish @ 2.95
3 91.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 8.3% Irish @ 3
4 91.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 8.5% Orcadian @ 3.02
5 90.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 9.1% Southeast_English @ 3.07
6 93.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 6.7% Norwegian @ 3.1
7 92.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 7.3% North_Dutch @ 3.12
8 92.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 7.1% Danish @ 3.13
9 94.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 5.9% Swedish @ 3.18
10 91.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 8.5% French_Basque @ 3.23
11 94.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 5.9% North_German @ 3.27
12 95.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 4.3% North_Swedish @ 3.29
13 97.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.8% La_Brana-1 @ 3.35
14 92.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 7.3% South_Dutch @ 3.36
15 98.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.1% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 3.39
16 98.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1.1% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 3.4
17 97.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 2.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.42
18 99% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1% Hadza @ 3.43
19 94.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 5.4% West_German @ 3.43
20 99% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 1% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 3.44


Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 36.08
2 West_Med 19.36
3 North_Sea 17.45
4 Baltic 8.02
5 East_Med 7.66
6 Northeast_African 3.62
7 Red_Sea 3.5
8 Eastern_Euro 1.88
9 Southeast_Asian 0.89
10 Sub-Saharan 0.88
11 West_Asian 0.46
12 Oceanian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Aragon 6.13
2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.38
3 Spanish_Valencia 6.74
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.89
5 Southwest_French 6.96
6 Spanish_Cantabria 7.36
7 Spanish_Andalucia 7.88
8 Spanish_Murcia 7.92
9 Spanish_Cataluna 8.45
10 Spanish_Extremadura 8.95
11 Portuguese 10.03
12 Spanish_Galicia 11.67
13 French_Basque 11.74
14 French 14.64
15 North_Italian 14.7
16 South_Dutch 17.55
17 Tuscan 20.05
18 Southwest_English 20.13
19 Austrian 20.93
20 Southeast_English 20.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 32% French_Basque @ 4.67
2 96% Spanish_Aragon + 4% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 4.84
3 95.9% Spanish_Aragon + 4.1% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 4.88
4 95.4% Spanish_Aragon + 4.6% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 4.91
5 95.9% Spanish_Aragon + 4.1% Hadza @ 4.93
6 95.3% Spanish_Aragon + 4.7% Somali @ 4.94
7 95.5% Spanish_Aragon + 4.5% Maasai @ 4.94
8 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 4.96
9 95.7% Spanish_Aragon + 4.3% Sandawe @ 5.04
10 96.2% Spanish_Aragon + 3.8% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.11
11 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 5.11
12 95.2% Spanish_Aragon + 4.8% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 5.18
13 96.4% Spanish_Aragon + 3.6% Sudanese @ 5.2
14 90.7% Spanish_Aragon + 9.3% La_Brana-1 @ 5.23
15 64.3% Spanish_Murcia + 35.7% French_Basque @ 5.39
16 96.9% Spanish_Aragon + 3.1% San @ 5.41
17 94.4% Southwest_French + 5.6% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 5.48
18 93.9% Southwest_French + 6.1% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 5.48
19 93.3% Spanish_Aragon + 6.7% Lithuanian @ 5.49
20 94.6% Southwest_French + 5.4% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 5.49


Eurogenes ANE K7:
Population
ANE 8.93
ASE 1.62
WHG-UHG 55.45
East_Eurasian 0.79
West_African 0.51
East_African 4.10
ENF 28.60


Eurogenes K9b:
Southwest_Asian 2.51
Mediterranean 29.27
North_European 60.55
Southeast_Asian 2.65
Oceanian 0.84
South_African 1.52
Sub-Saharan_African 2.66


Eurogenes K9:
Caucasus 5.41
Southwest Asian 8.71
Mediterranean 38.30
East Asian 0.09
West African 3.60
North European 43.89


Eurogenes K10:
Caucasus 5.28
Southwest Asian 8.56
Mediterranean 28.59
West African 3.59
East European 10.16
North Atlantic 43.81


Eurogenes K11:
Caucasus 5.49
Southwest Asian 8.45
Mediterranean 28.15
West African 3.57
Volga-Ural 1.60
South Baltic 10.39
North Atlantic 42.34


Eurogenes K12b:
Caucasus 5.21
Southwest Asian 8.31
Mediterranean 25.78
West African 3.57
Volga-Ural 0.59
South Baltic 9.21
Western European 29.51
North Sea 17.83


Eurogenes K12b:
Western European 36.48
East African 1.23
South Asian 0.52
West African 2.82
Caucasus 6.85
Finnish 2.05
Mediterranean 27.52
Southwest Asian 7.82
North European 14.48
East Asian 0.24


Eurogenes K36:
Armenian 2.11
Basque 5.82
Central_Euro 1.32
East_Balkan 3.61
East_Central_Euro 7.13
Fennoscandian 3.03
French 7.93
Iberian 23.63
Italian 7.99
Malayan 0.55
Near_Eastern 3.15
North_African 2.74
North_Atlantic 13.68
North_Sea 2.22
Northeast_African 1.86
Omotic 2.05
Pygmy 0.26
West_Med 10.89


Eurogenes Hunter-Gatherer vs Farmer:
Anatolian Farmer 6.71
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 35.88
Middle Eastern Herder 9.08
East African Pastoralist 1.40
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.62
Mediterranean Farmer 43.78
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.95
Bantu Farmer 1.57


Eurogenes JTest:
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 26.46
2 WEST_MED 22.95
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.04
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 11.65
5 EAST_MED 11.41
6 ASHKENAZI 5.14
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.73
8 EAST_EURO 3.15
9 EAST_AFRICAN 1.93
10 WEST_AFRICAN 1.53

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ES 7.17
2 PT 8.2
3 North_Italian 9.92
4 FR 12.02
5 Tuscan 15.75
6 French_Basque 17.39
7 AT 18.18
8 RO 19.06
9 Cornish 19.73
10 Serbian 20.25
11 HU 20.38
12 West_&_Central_German 20.68
13 NL 21.03
14 English 21.73
15 Orcadian 22.51
16 IE 22.54
17 Scottish 23.12
18 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 24.51
19 DK 24.56
20 NO 26.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.5% ES + 14.5% RO @ 6.5
2 68.4% North_Italian + 31.6% French_Basque @ 6.55
3 73.4% ES + 26.6% North_Italian @ 6.66
4 88.8% ES + 11.2% HU @ 6.75
5 94.1% ES + 5.9% LIT @ 6.76
6 93.8% ES + 6.2% Northwest_Russian @ 6.76
7 93% ES + 7% UA @ 6.8
8 94.1% ES + 5.9% Belorussian @ 6.85
9 93.7% ES + 6.3% West_Russian @ 6.85
10 97.5% ES + 2.5% Maasai @ 6.85
11 93.9% ES + 6.1% Ukrainian-Russian @ 6.86
12 98% ES + 2% Luhya @ 6.86
13 93.4% ES + 6.6% PL @ 6.86
14 98.3% ES + 1.7% Yoruba @ 6.9
15 93.3% ES + 6.7% GR @ 6.93
16 91.1% ES + 8.9% Serbian @ 6.93
17 95.5% ES + 4.5% EE @ 6.98
18 95.9% ES + 4.1% Erzya @ 6.98
19 95.9% ES + 4.1% North_Russian @ 6.99
20 95.7% ES + 4.3% Algerian @ 7


Eurogenes EuTest:
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 27.12
2 WEST_MED 23.59
3 EAST_MED 13.24
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.47
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 11.8
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.74
7 EAST_EURO 3.52
8 EAST_AFRICAN 2.03
9 WEST_AFRICAN 1.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 ES 7.22
2 PT 8.24
3 North_Italian 10.18
4 FR 12.27
5 Tuscan 15.96
6 French_Basque 17.52
7 AT 18.41
8 RO 19.28
9 Cornish 20.07
10 Serbian 20.46
11 HU 20.67
12 West_&_Central_German 21.01
13 NL 21.37
14 English 22.02
15 Orcadian 22.92
16 IE 23.03
17 Scottish 23.63
18 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 24.75
19 DK 24.9
20 AJ 25.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.9% ES + 14.1% RO @ 6.59
2 74.9% ES + 25.1% North_Italian @ 6.76
3 89.3% ES + 10.7% HU @ 6.83
4 94.3% ES + 5.7% LIT @ 6.84
5 94.1% ES + 5.9% Northwest_Russian @ 6.84
6 68.2% North_Italian + 31.8% French_Basque @ 6.85
7 93.3% ES + 6.7% UA @ 6.87
8 94.3% ES + 5.7% Belorussian @ 6.92
9 97.5% ES + 2.5% Maasai @ 6.92
10 94% ES + 6% West_Russian @ 6.92
11 94.1% ES + 5.9% Ukrainian-Russian @ 6.93
12 93.7% ES + 6.3% PL @ 6.93
13 98% ES + 2% Luhya @ 6.93
14 98.4% ES + 1.6% Yoruba @ 6.98
15 93.4% ES + 6.6% GR @ 6.98
16 91.5% ES + 8.5% Serbian @ 7
17 95.6% ES + 4.4% Algerian @ 7.04
18 95.7% ES + 4.3% EE @ 7.05
19 96.2% ES + 3.8% Erzya @ 7.06
20 96.1% ES + 3.9% North_Russian @ 7.06


Dodecad V3:
# Population Percent
1 West_European 39.42
2 Mediterranean 34.47
3 West_Asian 6.14
4 Southwest_Asian 5.96
5 East_European 5.86
6 Northwest_African 4.61
7 Neo_African 1.52
8 East_African 0.79
9 Palaeo_African 0.76
10 Southeast_Asian 0.45

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese (Dodecad) 10.57
2 French (Dodecad) 12.38
3 French (HGDP) 12.86
4 N_Italian (Dodecad) 13.4
5 IBS (1000Genomes) 13.86
6 Spaniards (Behar) 13.99
7 Tuscan (Henn) 14.03
8 Spanish (Dodecad) 14.19
9 Tuscan (Xing) 14.65
10 TSI (HapMap) 14.72
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 16.94
12 CEU (HapMap) 17.26
13 French_Basque (HGDP) 17.96
14 N._European (Xing) 18.44
15 O_Italian (Dodecad) 18.49
16 Slovenian (Xing) 19.11
17 Orcadian (HGDP) 19.34
18 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 19.65
19 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 19.65
20 German (Dodecad) 20.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.1% French (Dodecad) + 22.9% North_African (Dodecad) @ 3.46
2 77.5% French (Dodecad) + 22.5% Libya (Henn) @ 3.67
3 76.4% French (Dodecad) + 23.6% Algeria (Henn) @ 3.7
4 75.6% French (Dodecad) + 24.4% Morocco_N (Henn) @ 4
5 76.7% French (HGDP) + 23.3% North_African (Dodecad) @ 4.07
6 78.3% French (Dodecad) + 21.7% Egypt (Henn) @ 4.35
7 80.5% French (Dodecad) + 19.5% Sahara_OCC (Henn) @ 4.37
8 76.1% French (HGDP) + 23.9% Algeria (Henn) @ 4.56
9 80.9% French (Dodecad) + 19.1% Moroccans (Behar) @ 4.59
10 75.2% French (HGDP) + 24.8% Morocco_N (Henn) @ 4.68
11 77.2% French (HGDP) + 22.8% Libya (Henn) @ 4.71
12 79.4% French (Dodecad) + 20.6% TUNISIA (Henn) @ 4.76
13 80.1% French (HGDP) + 19.9% Sahara_OCC (Henn) @ 5.02
14 80.5% French (HGDP) + 19.5% Moroccans (Behar) @ 5.11
15 66.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 33.4% Slovenian (Xing) @ 5.13
16 79% French (HGDP) + 21% TUNISIA (Henn) @ 5.27
17 72.3% French (Dodecad) + 27.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 5.43
18 78.2% French (HGDP) + 21.8% Egypt (Henn) @ 5.53
19 81.1% French (Dodecad) + 18.9% Morocco_S (Henn) @ 5.59
20 75.3% French (Dodecad) + 24.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 5.81


Dodecad World9:
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 60.66
2 Southern 25.99
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.78
4 African 3.74
5 Australasian 0.47
6 East_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Extremadura (1000 Genomes) 2.89
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 3.48
3 Galicia (1000 Genomes) 3.82
4 Andalucia (1000 Genomes) 4.07
5 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 4.24
6 Spaniards (Behar) 4.51
7 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000 Genomes) 4.71
8 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000 Genomes) 5.03
9 Valencia (1000 Genomes) 5.38
10 Spanish (Dodecad) 5.5
11 Murcia (1000 Genomes) 5.51
12 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 6.22
13 Cantabria (1000 Genomes) 7.38
14 Canarias (1000 Genomes) 7.4
15 Aragon (1000 Genomes) 7.57
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 7.76
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 7.97
18 Brazilian (Dodecad) 8.81
19 French (Dodecad) 11.1
20 French (HGDP) 11.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.5% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 24.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.22
2 78.3% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 21.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.36
3 77% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 23% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.37
4 72.4% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 27.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.47
5 82.4% French (Dodecad) + 17.6% Mozabite @ 1.5
6 67.7% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 32.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.5
7 72.9% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 27.1% German (Dodecad) @ 1.5
8 71% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 29% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.56
9 78.7% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 21.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.58
10 75.5% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 24.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 1.58
11 96.3% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.7% San_He @ 1.63
12 73.1% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 26.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.65
13 81.8% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 18.2% Lithuanians @ 1.69
14 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% San @ 1.72
15 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 1.74
16 96.4% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.6% Hadza_He @ 1.74
17 96.6% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.4% LWK30 (Behar) @ 1.74
18 96.4% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.6% ACB30 @ 1.74
19 96.6% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.4% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 1.74
20 96.7% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.3% Mandenka @ 1.75


Dodecad K7b:
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 60
2 Southern 27.03
3 West_Asian 8.59
4 African 3.71
5 East_Asian 0.63
6 Siberian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 3.41
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 3.88
3 Galicia (1000Genomes) 4.19
4 Spaniards (Behar) 4.52
5 Baleares (1000Genomes) 4.53
6 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 4.81
7 Murcia (1000Genomes) 5.1
8 Spanish (Dodecad) 5.45
9 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 5.46
10 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 5.65
11 Valencia (1000Genomes) 6.24
12 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 6.61
13 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 7.52
14 Aragon (1000Genomes) 7.54
15 Canarias (1000Genomes) 7.9
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 8.41
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 8.85
18 French (Dodecad) 12.02
19 French (HGDP) 12.18
20 Romanians (Behar) 14.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.3% French (HGDP) + 18.7% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 0.86
2 78% French (HGDP) + 22% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 0.99
3 81.3% French (HGDP) + 18.7% Moroccans (Behar) @ 1
4 75.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 24.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.13
5 67.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 32.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.28
6 78.7% French (HGDP) + 21.3% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 1.29
7 76.3% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 23.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.29
8 78.7% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 21.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.57
9 77.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 22.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.59
10 73.6% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 26.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.64
11 78.9% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 21.1% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.67
12 72.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) + 27.5% German (Dodecad) @ 1.68
13 96.2% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.8% Sandawe (Henn) @ 1.71
14 96.8% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.2% LWK30 (Behar) @ 1.72
15 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 1.72
16 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 1.73
17 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 1.74
18 96.9% Spaniards (Behar) + 3.1% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 1.74
19 97% Spaniards (Behar) + 3% Yoruba (HGDP) @ 1.74
20 97% Spaniards (Behar) + 3% YRI30 (HGDP) @ 1.74



Dodecad K12b:
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 40.11
2 North_European 28.45
3 Caucasus 13.51
4 Southwest_Asian 6.4
5 Northwest_African 4.86
6 Gedrosia 2.97
7 Sub_Saharan 2.31
8 East_African 0.71
9 East_Asian 0.64
10 Southeast_Asian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Galicia (1000Genomes) 9.81
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 10.63
3 N_Italian (Dodecad) 10.81
4 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 11.03
5 Baleares (1000Genomes) 11.13
6 North_Italian (HGDP) 11.99
7 French (HGDP) 12.38
8 French (Dodecad) 12.43
9 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 12.98
10 Murcia (1000Genomes) 13.35
11 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 13.64
12 Spanish (Dodecad) 14.15
13 Spaniards (Behar) 14.29
14 Canarias (1000Genomes) 14.3
15 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 15.85
16 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 16
17 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 16.24
18 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.68
19 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.7
20 Valencia (1000Genomes) 16.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.1% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 24.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.99
2 68.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 31.6% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.25
3 64.2% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 35.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.35
4 77.6% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 22.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.37
5 69.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 30.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.49
6 76.1% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 23.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.51
7 70.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 29.3% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.55
8 69.7% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 30.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.56
9 81.6% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 18.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.6
10 77.6% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 22.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.64
11 70.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 29.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.66
12 77.5% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 22.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.71
13 77.4% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 22.6% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.71
14 80.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 19.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.73
15 72% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 28% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.74
16 72.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 27.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.75
17 71.8% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 28.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.83
18 83.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 16.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.86
19 79.6% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 20.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.94
20 78% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 22% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.94


HarappaWorld:
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 38.62
2 NE-Euro 33.51
3 Caucasian 12.18
4 SW-Asian 6.45
5 Baloch 3.92
6 W-African 1.94
7 San 1.39
8 E-African 1.12
9 SE-Asian 0.5
10 S-Indian 0.21
11 Beringian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 spaniard (behar) 6.68
2 spaniard (1000genomes) 7.33
3 italian (hgdp) 10.32
4 french (hgdp) 10.71
5 tuscan (hapmap) 17.73
6 tuscan (hgdp) 18.27
7 tuscan (1000genomes) 18.81
8 romanian-a (behar) 19.32
9 utahn-white (1000genomes) 19.57
10 hungarian (behar) 20.3
11 british (1000genomes) 20.4
12 spain-basc (henn2012) 20.55
13 n-european (xing) 20.94
14 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 20.99
15 utahn-white (hapmap) 21.39
16 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 21.86
17 slovenian (xing) 22.2
18 basque (hgdp) 22.28
19 orcadian (hgdp) 23.16
20 ashkenazi (harappa) 27.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.3% spaniard (1000genomes) + 24.7% romanian-a (behar) @ 3.91
2 77.1% spaniard (1000genomes) + 22.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 4.03
3 78.6% spaniard (1000genomes) + 21.4% slovenian (xing) @ 4.3
4 77.1% spaniard (1000genomes) + 22.9% hungarian (behar) @ 4.37
5 86.6% spaniard (1000genomes) + 13.4% russian (behar) @ 4.64
6 84.2% spaniard (1000genomes) + 15.8% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 4.64
7 86.8% spaniard (1000genomes) + 13.2% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 4.85
8 57.1% sardinian (hgdp) + 42.9% russian (hgdp) @ 4.93
9 86.7% spaniard (1000genomes) + 13.3% belorussian (behar) @ 4.95
10 92.4% spaniard (behar) + 7.6% finnish (1000genomes) @ 4.99
11 87.8% spaniard (1000genomes) + 12.2% chuvash (behar) @ 5.06
12 91.1% spaniard (1000genomes) + 8.9% finnish (1000genomes) @ 5.12
13 55.4% sardinian (hgdp) + 44.6% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 5.16
14 80.5% french (hgdp) + 19.5% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 5.18
15 51.1% sardinian (hgdp) + 48.9% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 5.28
16 51.7% romanian-a (behar) + 48.3% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 5.32
17 50.6% spain-basc (henn2012) + 49.4% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 5.34
18 91.4% spaniard (behar) + 8.6% lithuanian (behar) @ 5.39
19 93.1% spaniard (behar) + 6.9% yemenese (behar) @ 5.4
20 54.9% sardinian (hgdp) + 45.1% belorussian (behar) @ 5.42


PuntDNA-L K10:
# Population Percent
1 ENF 40.14
2 WHG 38.3
3 CHG 10.99
4 Sub-Saharan 4.88
5 Beringian 2.88
6 ASI 2.55
7 Siberian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Southwest 6.03
2 Spanish_Northeast 8.17
3 Italian_North 11.56
4 French 14.22
5 Italian_South 14.49
6 Tuscan 15.04
7 Basque_Spanish 15.72
8 Bulgarian 17.08
9 Albanian 17.11
10 Greek 18.04
11 German_South 18.44
12 Sicilian 19.19
13 Sardinian 19.3
14 Croatian 19.63
15 Utahn_white 20.74
16 Hungarian 22.04
17 English_South 22.09
18 Irish 22.22
19 Ashkenazi_Jew 22.71
20 Czech 23.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Basque_Spanish + 26.9% Yemeni @ 3.73
2 94.9% Spanish_Southwest + 5.1% Maasai @ 4.01
3 93.5% Spanish_Southwest + 6.5% Somali @ 4.02
4 81.2% Spanish_Northeast + 18.8% Moroccan @ 4.04
5 95.6% Spanish_Southwest + 4.4% Kikuyu @ 4.07
6 84.4% Spanish_Northeast + 15.6% Algerian @ 4.12
7 96.3% Spanish_Southwest + 3.7% N.E_Bantu @ 4.15
8 96.4% Spanish_Southwest + 3.6% Gambian @ 4.17
9 92.9% Spanish_Southwest + 7.1% Ethiopian @ 4.18
10 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Mende @ 4.18
11 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Mandinka @ 4.18
12 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Yoruba @ 4.19
13 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Esan @ 4.19
14 95.7% Spanish_Southwest + 4.3% African_American @ 4.25
15 89.1% Spanish_Northeast + 10.9% Ethiopian @ 4.3
16 81.5% Spanish_Northeast + 18.5% Tunisian @ 4.53
17 90.6% Spanish_Northeast + 9.4% Somali @ 4.58
18 89% Spanish_Southwest + 11% Moroccan @ 4.71
19 96.5% Spanish_Southwest + 3.5% Chukchi @ 4.74
20 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Koryak @ 4.75


PuntDNA-L K12:
# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 42.1
2 European_HG 29.55
3 Caucasus_HG 11.03
4 Near_East 8.81
5 Sub-Saharan 3.84
6 Beringian 2.51
7 South_Asian 1.92
8 South_African_HG 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Southwest 5.65
2 Spanish_Canaries 7.21
3 Spanish_Northeast 9.92
4 Italian_Bergamo 10.44
5 French 12.13
6 Romanian 13.28
7 Tuscan 14.55
8 French_South 14.86
9 Albanian 15.17
10 Belgian 15.38
11 Bulgarian 15.84
12 Greek 15.85
13 German_South 16.78
14 Croatian 17.03
15 Utahn_European 17.13
16 Sicilian_West 17.94
17 Dutch_South 18.36
18 Basque_Spaniard 18.86
19 English_South 18.93
20 Hungarian 19.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.7% Spanish_Southwest + 8.3% Somali_Benadiri @ 3.39
2 95% Spanish_Southwest + 5% Eskimo @ 3.66
3 75.1% French + 24.9% Tunisian @ 3.75
4 75.8% French + 24.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.75
5 78.4% French + 21.6% Saharawi @ 3.76
6 96% Spanish_Southwest + 4% Chukchi @ 3.77
7 96.1% Spanish_Southwest + 3.9% Koryak @ 3.81
8 93.6% Spanish_Southwest + 6.4% Somali @ 3.89
9 93.4% Spanish_Southwest + 6.6% Oromo @ 3.91
10 92.8% Spanish_Southwest + 7.2% Ethiopian @ 3.93
11 95% Spanish_Southwest + 5% Maasai @ 3.94
12 74.2% French + 25.8% Algerian @ 4.01
13 96.4% Spanish_Southwest + 3.6% NE_Bantu @ 4.17
14 85.4% Spanish_Canaries + 14.6% Russian @ 4.21
15 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Esan @ 4.24
16 94.7% Spanish_Southwest + 5.3% Bengali_Muslim @ 4.25
17 95.9% Spanish_Southwest + 4.1% African_American @ 4.25
18 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Bambaran @ 4.26
19 96.7% Spanish_Southwest + 3.3% Mandinka @ 4.26
20 92.1% Spanish_Southwest + 7.9% Yemeni @ 4.27


PuntDNAL K13:
# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 43.15
2 NE_Europe 34.18
3 SW_Asia 9.93
4 West_Asia 5.01
5 SE_Asia 2.56
6 South_Africa 1.74
7 Oceania 1.32
8 East_Africa 1.05
9 West_Africa 0.9
10 South_Asia 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spaniard 6.5
2 Italian_Bergamo 10.42
3 French 10.86
4 French_Basque 13.25
5 Belgian 14.09
6 Macedonian 14.09
7 Italian_Tuscan 14.56
8 Serbian 14.67
9 German_South 15.05
10 Bulgarian 15.42
11 Croatian 15.46
12 Montenegrin 15.58
13 Bosnian 16.32
14 Romanian 16.6
15 English 16.72
16 Kosovar 16.79
17 Albanian 16.84
18 Hungarian 17.18
19 Greek_Thessaly 17.79
20 Slovene 17.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.9% Spaniard + 5.1% Visayan @ 4.89
2 94.3% Spaniard + 5.7% Sandawe @ 4.89
3 94.8% Spaniard + 5.2% Malayan @ 4.93
4 94.8% Spaniard + 5.2% Hadza @ 4.96
5 95.4% Spaniard + 4.6% Dusun @ 4.98
6 95.4% Spaniard + 4.6% Murut @ 4.99
7 95.3% Spaniard + 4.7% Luzon @ 5.01
8 94.7% Spaniard + 5.3% Cambodian @ 5.04
9 95.7% Spaniard + 4.3% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 5.06
10 95.2% Spaniard + 4.8% Filipino @ 5.07
11 96.1% Spaniard + 3.9% Igorot @ 5.08
12 94.9% Spaniard + 5.1% Kikuyu @ 5.14
13 95.8% Spaniard + 4.2% Biaka_Pygmy @ 5.18
14 94.9% Spaniard + 5.1% Wolayta @ 5.22
15 95.3% Spaniard + 4.7% Hema @ 5.24
16 95.4% Spaniard + 4.6% Aricultivator @ 5.25
17 95.2% Spaniard + 4.8% Maasai @ 5.26
18 95% Spaniard + 5% Datog @ 5.26
19 96.6% Spaniard + 3.4% Ju_Hoan @ 5.31
20 95% Spaniard + 5% Thai @ 5.32



PuntDNA-L K15:
# Population Percent
1 NE_European 43.23
2 Mediterranean 41.27
3 SW_Asian 6.69
4 Caucasian 3.02
5 S_African 2.43
6 W_African 1.08
7 Omo_River 0.77
8 Oceanian 0.6
9 E_Asian 0.42
10 Horn_Of_Africa 0.2
11 Siberian 0.16
12 Beringian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spaniard 6.07
2 Portuguese 9.57
3 Basque 11.38
4 French 11.41
5 Italian 13.55
6 Romanian 13.75
7 Montenegrin 13.9
8 Bulgarian 14.08
9 South_German 14.15
10 Brazilian 14.4
11 Utahn_White 14.69
12 Macedonian 15.01
13 Serbian 16.1
14 Bosnian 17.17
15 English 17.27
16 Orcadian 18.04
17 Irish 18.46
18 Albanian 18.67
19 Scottish 18.74
20 Croatian 18.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.2% Sardinian + 45.8% Lithuanian @ 4.03
2 51.6% Sardinian + 48.4% Belarusian @ 4.16
3 53.8% Polish + 46.2% Sardinian @ 4.81
4 51% Sardinian + 49% Mordovian @ 4.94
5 52.5% Sardinian + 47.5% Finnish @ 5.07
6 51.3% Sardinian + 48.7% Russian @ 5.13
7 57.3% Swedish + 42.7% Sardinian @ 5.14
8 60.4% Norwegian + 39.6% Sardinian @ 5.17
9 92.7% Spaniard + 7.3% Lithuanian @ 5.39
10 91.7% Spaniard + 8.3% Mordovian @ 5.39
11 92.2% Spaniard + 7.8% Finnish @ 5.4
12 92.1% Spaniard + 7.9% Belarusian @ 5.42
13 97.9% Spaniard + 2.1% San @ 5.45
14 52.1% Sardinian + 47.9% Karelian @ 5.46
15 92.2% Spaniard + 7.8% Russian @ 5.46
16 90.8% Spaniard + 9.2% Polish @ 5.49
17 92.7% Spaniard + 7.3% Karelian @ 5.5
18 88.5% Spaniard + 11.5% Norwegian @ 5.51
19 89.7% Spaniard + 10.3% Swedish @ 5.51
20 88.3% Spaniard + 11.7% Scottish @ 5.59


Eurasia K9 ASI:
# Population Percent
1 WHG 34.81
2 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 24.11
3 SW_Asian 19.03
4 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 9.63
5 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 8.37
6 W_African 3.67
7 Siberian_E_Asian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish 9.45
2 Bulgarian 11.38
3 Croatian 11.67
4 French 12.36
5 Albanian 12.79
6 Tuscan 13.37
7 French_South 13.96
8 Hungarian 14.59
9 Greek 15.29
10 English 17.43
11 Scottish 17.5
12 Maltese 17.92
13 Sicilian 18.26
14 Czech 18.3
15 Ukrainian 20.08
16 Norwegian 20.56
17 RISE_baBb 21.83
18 Icelandic 21.96
19 Belarusian 23.54
20 Sardinian 24.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.2% French + 17.8% Saudi @ 4.73
2 88% French + 12% BedouinB @ 4.89
3 80.9% French + 19.1% Yemenite_Jew @ 5.18
4 77.7% French + 22.3% BedouinA @ 5.27
5 79.3% French + 20.7% Yemen @ 5.37
6 76.9% French_South + 23.1% Yemen @ 5.6
7 55.4% Maltese + 44.6% RISE_baBb @ 5.65
8 91.6% Spanish + 8.4% BedouinB @ 5.66
9 84.2% Croatian + 15.8% Saudi @ 6.16
10 75.7% French_South + 24.3% BedouinA @ 6.23
11 82.8% Croatian + 17.2% Yemenite_Jew @ 6.26
12 80.9% French_South + 19.1% Saudi @ 6.3
13 79.8% Croatian + 20.2% BedouinA @ 6.32
14 88.2% Spanish + 11.8% Saudi @ 6.33
15 67.7% Maltese + 32.3% RISE_baHu @ 6.36
16 89.5% Croatian + 10.5% BedouinB @ 6.37
17 74.5% English + 25.5% Yemenite_Jew @ 6.39
18 81.5% Croatian + 18.5% Yemen @ 6.54
19 86.2% Spanish + 13.8% Yemen @ 6.55
20 76.6% English + 23.4% Saudi @ 6.63


Gedrosia K3:
# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 92.09
2 SSA 6.22
3 E_Eurasian 1.69

Eurasia K14 Neolithic:
# Population Percent
1 Early_European_Farmers 44.08
2 Neolithic_Balkan_Farmers 13.29
3 SHG_WHG 11.68
4 Afansievo_Yamnaya 10.77
5 SW_Asian 9.47
6 Kalash 3.65
7 Sub_Saharan 2.8
8 S_Indian 1.68
9 S_Amerindian 1.42
10 Siberian 1.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 HungaryGamba_BA1 12.84
2 HungaryGamba_IA 14.11
3 Bell_Beaker_LN3 16.28
4 Bell_Beaker_LN4 16.56
5 Hungarian_BA8 18.79
6 Hungarian_BA7 19.02
7 Bell_Beaker_LN2 19.25
8 Nordic_BA1 19.68
9 Hungarian_BA3 19.68
10 Bell_Beaker_BA1 22.19
11 Nordic_IA 23.59
12 Sintashta_BA 23.9
13 Hungarian_BA4 23.92
14 Unetice_BA1 25.96
15 RISE_baSca 26.2
16 RISE_baSca 27.43
17 Bell_Beaker_BA2 27.8
18 RISE_baSca 30.34
19 Bell_Beaker_BA4 30.56
20 Hungarian_BA5 30.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Bell_Beaker_LN3 + 44.5% Hungarian_BA3 @ 6.58
2 63.6% HungaryGamba_BA1 + 36.4% Nordic_BA1 @ 7.5
3 51.4% Hungarian_BA8 + 48.6% Hungarian_BA3 @ 7.77
4 53.7% HungaryGamba_BA1 + 46.3% HungaryGamba_IA @ 8.12
5 64.5% HungaryGamba_BA1 + 35.5% Hungarian_BA3 @ 8.28
6 68.2% Bell_Beaker_LN3 + 31.8% Hungarian_BA5 @ 8.7
7 62% Corded_Ware_BA6 + 38% Armenian_BA3 @ 8.81
8 55.4% Hungarian_BA3 + 44.6% Nordic_IA @ 8.88
9 77% HungaryGamba_IA + 23% LBK_EN1 @ 9.03
10 50.7% Bell_Beaker_LN2 + 49.3% Hungarian_BA3 @ 9.06
11 78.1% Bell_Beaker_LN4 + 21.9% Hungarian_BA6 @ 9.07
12 74.1% HungaryGamba_IA + 25.9% Hungarian_BA2 @ 9.14
13 78.2% HungaryGamba_IA + 21.8% LBK_EN2 @ 9.17
14 75% HungaryGamba_IA + 25% Stuttgart @ 9.17
15 54.8% Unetice_BA1 + 45.2% Hungarian_BA5 @ 9.27
16 58.3% Hungarian_BA3 + 41.7% Unetice_BA1 @ 9.32
17 81.6% HungaryGamba_BA1 + 18.4% Hungarian_BA1 @ 9.41
18 71.2% Nordic_BA1 + 28.8% HungaryGamba_BA2 @ 9.44
19 56.5% HungaryGamba_IA + 43.5% Bell_Beaker_LN4 @ 9.52
20 71.8% HungaryGamba_BA1 + 28.2% Hungarian_BA4 @ 9.53


Gedrosia K12:
# Population Percent
1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 44.43
2 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 28.44
3 SW_ASIAN 10.86
4 CAUCASUS 8.48
5 SUB_SAHARAN 2.99
6 E_AFRICAN 2.53
7 E_SIBERIAN 1.19
8 W_SIBERIAN 1.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 19.75
2 Sicilian 22.65
3 Norwegian 25.88
4 Turks_Istanbul 35.9
5 Russian 37.36
6 Turks_Aydin 39.36
7 Turks_Balikesir 40.08
8 Finnish 40.5
9 Stuttgart 40.85
10 Estonian 42.13
11 Lithuanian 43.57
12 Turks_Adana 43.7
13 Kurds_C 44.39
14 Kurds_N 44.59
15 Iraqi_Chaldeans 44.71
16 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad 44.9
17 Turks_Kayseri 44.91
18 Iraqi_Jew 45.06
19 Kurds_F 46.35
20 Jordanian 47.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.3% Russian + 47.7% Stuttgart @ 8.11
2 66.8% Stuttgart + 33.2% BA_Sintashta @ 9.54
3 66.8% Stuttgart + 33.2% Corded_Ware_LN @ 9.54
4 50.2% Finnish + 49.8% Stuttgart @ 10
5 62.4% Norwegian + 37.6% Stuttgart @ 10.1
6 54.2% Sicilian + 45.8% Norwegian @ 11.01
7 50.8% Stuttgart + 49.2% Estonian @ 11.43
8 51.7% Stuttgart + 48.3% Lithuanian @ 11.71
9 68.1% Sicilian + 31.9% Estonian @ 12.56
10 69% Sicilian + 31% Lithuanian @ 12.79
11 67.4% Sicilian + 32.6% Finnish @ 13.06
12 60.3% Greek + 39.7% Norwegian @ 13.31
13 66% Sicilian + 34% Russian @ 13.94
14 74.9% Greek + 25.1% Estonian @ 14.67
15 75.9% Greek + 24.1% Lithuanian @ 14.87
16 74.5% Greek + 25.5% Finnish @ 14.97
17 73.6% Greek + 26.4% Russian @ 15.57
18 61.5% Russian + 38.5% Sardinian @ 16.06
19 68.6% Norwegian + 31.4% Jordanian @ 16.11
20 72.8% Norwegian + 27.2% Sardinian @ 16.23


Ancient Eurasia K6:
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 42.23
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 38.16
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 13.98
4 Sub_Saharan 3.39
5 East_Asian 2.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish 4.6
2 Romanian 5.88
3 Bulgarian 6.28
4 Croatian 7.21
5 Albanian 8.38
6 French 8.47
7 Hungarian 9.22
8 Greek 10.22
9 English 11.36
10 Czech 11.53
11 Basque 11.58
12 Sicilian 12.17
13 Sardinian 12.53
14 Scottish 12.56
15 Ukrainian 12.78
16 Norwegian 13.59
17 Jew_Ashkenazi 13.86
18 Italian_South 14.1
19 Icelandic 15.02
20 Europe_LNBA 16.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.1% Jew_Tunisian + 20.9% WHG @ 1.83
2 79.1% Jew_Tunisian + 20.9% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.83
3 88.9% Spanish + 11.1% Yemeni @ 1.83
4 87.5% Spanish + 12.5% Egyptian @ 1.98
5 87.3% Spanish + 12.7% Libyan @ 2.01
6 87.5% Spanish + 12.5% BedouinA @ 2.19
7 80.8% Jew_Moroccan + 19.2% WHG @ 2.24
8 80.8% Jew_Moroccan + 19.2% Hungarian_KO1 @ 2.24
9 71.4% Basque + 28.6% BedouinA @ 2.31
10 87.3% Spanish + 12.7% Jordanian @ 2.32
11 70.7% Basque + 29.3% Jordanian @ 2.35
12 80.2% Jew_Libyan + 19.8% Hungarian_KO1 @ 2.37
13 80.2% Jew_Libyan + 19.8% WHG @ 2.37
14 87.6% Spanish + 12.4% Syrian @ 2.41
15 70.9% Basque + 29.1% Syrian @ 2.44
16 87.9% Spanish + 12.1% Palestinian @ 2.48
17 84.7% Jew_Ashkenazi + 15.3% WHG @ 2.53
18 84.7% Jew_Ashkenazi + 15.3% Hungarian_KO1 @ 2.53
19 74.9% Basque + 25.1% Yemeni @ 2.57
20 87.7% Spanish + 12.3% Lebanese @ 2.58


Near East Neolithic K13:
Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 36.83
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 18.75
3 SHG_WHG 12.26
4 EHG 10.75
5 NATUFIAN 10.48
6 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 6.31
7 POLAR 1.69
8 SUB_SAHARAN 1.51
9 KARITIANA 1.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.79
2 Romanian 7.22
3 Albanian 8.2
4 Greek 9.32
5 Croatian 11.19
6 French 11.37
7 Sicilian 12.5
8 Hungarian 13.1
9 Italian_South 13.81
10 Jew_Ashkenazi 14.25
11 English 16.43
12 Scottish 16.86
13 Czech 16.99
14 Ukrainian 18.22
15 Turkish_Istanbul 19.77
16 Norwegian 20.46
17 Turkish 20.48
18 Icelandic 20.57
19 Jew_Moroccan 21.18
20 Turkish_Balekesir 22.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.9% French + 34.1% Jew_Moroccan @ 3.56
2 70.3% French + 29.7% Jew_Libyan @ 3.75
3 70.6% French + 29.4% Jew_Tunisian @ 3.95
4 76.7% French + 23.3% Palestinian @ 3.98
5 75.4% French + 24.6% Jordanian @ 4.03
6 73.8% French + 26.2% Lebanese @ 4.05
7 77.5% French + 22.5% BedouinA @ 4.25
8 84.2% French + 15.8% Levant_BA @ 4.33
9 52.7% French + 47.3% Sicilian @ 4.36
10 78.3% French + 21.7% Egyptian @ 4.4
11 80.6% French + 19.4% Yemeni @ 4.41
12 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Saharawi @ 4.42
13 75.5% French + 24.5% Syrian @ 4.46
14 96.7% Bulgarian + 3.3% Bichon @ 4.52
15 96.7% Bulgarian + 3.3% SHG @ 4.52
16 91.7% Bulgarian + 8.3% Moroccan @ 4.52
17 81.6% French + 18.4% Jew_Yemenite @ 4.55
18 91.4% Bulgarian + 8.6% Algerian @ 4.57
19 96.4% Bulgarian + 3.6% WHG @ 4.59
20 90.9% Romanian + 9.1% Levant_BA @ 4.61


DNA Tribes:
https://i.imgur.com/oD9uUO8.png

https://i.imgur.com/jurX4AC.png

https://i.imgur.com/izwYofN.png


DNALand:
https://i.imgur.com/AppD986.png


GenePlaza:
https://i.imgur.com/qSPMfzL.png

Gene Plaza ancient origins:
https://i.imgur.com/G8DKvcp.png
https://i.imgur.com/5phUYL0.png


GenePlaza K29:
https://i.imgur.com/JP2peco.png

Gencove:

35% SW Europe
29% N-C Europe
24% East Med
7% NE Europe
3% West Africa
2% North Africa

https://i.imgur.com/hxB6bgF.png


23andme:
https://i.imgur.com/ITbScN4.png

WeGene:
https://i.imgur.com/M4k84ql.png

lilac9
12-31-2017, 06:12 PM
Sorry Double Post! Don't know why that happened!

lilac9
12-31-2017, 06:13 PM
I am wondering why her African is so low on 23andme (only .4%) and much higher on all the other calculators. The Gedrosia k-3 seems to find the most African at 6%! I thought continental admix estimates were supposed to be more accurate.

Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 06:22 PM
I am wondering why her African is so low on 23andme (only .4%) and much higher on all the other calculators. The Gedrosia k-3 seems to find the most African at 6%! I thought continental admix estimates were supposed to be more accurate.

The African seems to be 4-5% on average on all other sites -- DNALand, Gencove, GenePlaza and so on. 23andme is the outlier and my guess is because their Iberian sample now contains Canarians, Madeirans, and other Iberian groups with single-digits Sub-Saharan ancestry. Thus, it could misread segments that should be African, as Iberian. For what it is worth, my grandmother shares none of my mother's African segments nor mine that we got on 23andme (and obviously neither of ours could possibly come from any other ancestor) , and my mother's African on 23andme is higher than my grandmother's. So I think it has to do with the alteration of who comprises the "Iberian" population. GEDMatch, accordingly, gives my mother half of my grandmother's African and I have less than 1/4 of hers on there.

Since my grandmother has the v5 chip on 23andme we cannot put her on FTDNA or MyHeritage, but given my mother is around 2% SSA on both, my grandmother would on there again fall into the typical 4-5% range she usually gets. So 23andme is definitely the outlier result here. Doug McDonald also gave me 1.6% West African, my mother around 3%, but he cannot test my grandmother because of the v5 chip. So he would likely place her into the 5-6% range if my mother and I are any hint.

lilac9
12-31-2017, 06:32 PM
The African seems to be 4-5% on average on all other sites -- DNALand, Gencove, GenePlaza and so on. 23andme is the outlier and my guess is because their Iberian sample now contains Canarians, Madeirans, and other Iberian groups with single-digits Sub-Saharan ancestry. Thus, it could misread segments that should be African, as Iberian. For what it is worth, my grandmother shares none of my mother's African segments nor mine that we got on 23andme (and obviously neither of ours could possibly come from any other ancestor) , and my mother's African on 23andme is higher than my grandmother's. So I think it has to do with the alteration of who comprises the "Iberian" population. GEDMatch, accordingly, gives my mother half of my grandmother's African and I have less than 1/4 of hers on there.

Since my grandmother has the v5 chip on 23andme we cannot put her on FTDNA or MyHeritage, but given my mother is around 2% SSA on both, my grandmother would on there again fall into the typical 4-5% range she usually gets. So 23andme is definitely the outlier result here. Doug McDonald also gave me 1.6% West African, my mother around 3%, but he cannot test my grandmother because of the v5 chip. So he would likely place her into the 5-6% range if my mother and I are any hint.

I'm not sure that's the answer as to why 23andme seems to be so low. My SSA varies from 4% at Gencove, 6% at myHeritage, 7% at LivingDna, approximately 8% at Ancestry and 9% at 23andme I guess its so high because I'm phased with my Dad. But that is a huge range IMO from 4-9%. And then they always say continental admix is so accurate! Not so IMO if there is such a huge range. Actually my highest SSA is with 23andme. I'm on an older chip there (v2). Not sure if that has anything to do with it. Dr. McDonald said it was between 5.3 and 6.1%.

I also have Amerindian and that component seems much more stable across calculators. It varies from 9-10% only. The lowest I get is 7.8% and that is with LivingDna. Something's up with the SSA component on these calculators. The range is too high.

Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 06:38 PM
I'm not sure that's the answer as to why 23andme seems to be so low. My SSA varies from 4% at Gencove, 6% at myHeritage, 7% at LivingDna, approximately 8% at Ancestry and 9% at 23andme I guess its so high because I'm phased with my Dad. But that is a huge range IMO from 4-9%. And then they always say continental admix is so accurate! Not so IMO if there is such a huge range. Actually my highest SSA is with 23andme.

What do you think the explanation is? To me it definitely has to be something with the Iberian reference population. I cannot imagine what else it could be. The question I'd ask you is, why is 23andme clearly the outlier here and every other result consistent not only with one another, but with my mother and me?

I think it is the same reason having an "Italian" cluster and using the southernmost Italians in it erases some of what would otherwise be Middle Eastern admixture in southern Italians.

lilac9
12-31-2017, 06:45 PM
What do you think the explanation is? To me it definitely has to be something with the Iberian reference population. I cannot imagine what else it could be. The question I'd ask you is, why is 23andme clearly the outlier here and every other result consistent not only with one another, but with my mother and me?

I think it is the same reason having an "Italian" cluster and using the southernmost Italians in it erases some of what would otherwise be Middle Eastern admixture in southern Italians.

Your explanation doesn't work in my case. I actually have the most SSA at 23andme.

Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 06:58 PM
Your explanation doesn't work in my case. I actually have the most SSA at 23andme.

But all of the segments myself and my mother have as African, are listed as Iberian on my grandmother's. I can't imagine what else it could mean. Additionally, with the exception of one woman who comes up closely related to us who also has traced Cape Verdean ancestry (this woman is from Madeira with a Cape Verdean great-great grandparent from Santiago), the other Portuguese results I've seen across the net have very little SSA on DNALand, MyHeritage, GEDmatch and so on.

So I don't get it. I tend to go with the majority or whatever is consistent, so I tend to believe 4-5% is right, 0.4% is way wrong.

Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 07:01 PM
Dr. McDonald said it was between 5.3 and 6.1%.

For me, he said this:

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Italian= 0.984 Mandenka= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Yoruba= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Bantu Ke= 0.016
Italian= 0.985 Bantu So= 0.015
Italian= 0.976 Ethiopia= 0.024
Italian= 0.970 Ethiopia= 0.030
Italian= 0.971 Ethiopia= 0.029
Italian= 0.981 Maasai= 0.019
Italian= 0.987 Biaka Py= 0.013
Italian= 0.990 Mbuti Py= 0.010


North Italian = Italian here.

lilac9
12-31-2017, 07:08 PM
Sikeliot you need to clear space in your private messages. I tried to reply but it said it was full.

lilac9
12-31-2017, 07:11 PM
But all of the segments myself and my mother have as African, are listed as Iberian on my grandmother's. I can't imagine what else it could mean. Additionally, with the exception of one woman who comes up closely related to us who also has traced Cape Verdean ancestry (this woman is from Madeira with a Cape Verdean great-great grandparent from Santiago), the other Portuguese results I've seen across the net have very little SSA on DNALand, MyHeritage, GEDmatch and so on.

So I don't get it. I tend to go with the majority or whatever is consistent, so I tend to believe 4-5% is right, 0.4% is way wrong.

When I first tested at 23andme back in 2010 I think it was I had 4% SSA. My Dad who was tested in 2013 had 7%. Now that has gone up 5% more for both of us. I think 23andme is wrong now.

Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 07:13 PM
Sikeliot you need to clear space in your private messages. I tried to reply but it said it was full.

I did just now.

For what it is worth, the same pattern can be observed with my mother. Lowest SSA on 23andme (but oddly, higher than my grandmother's and none of the segments match) and a consistent reading of 2-3% on MyHeritage, GEDmatch calculators, from Doug McDonald, FTDNA, and so on. It's interesting yours and ours both have 23andme as the outlier but in your case it's the outlier in the higher direction, not lower.

Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 07:16 PM
When I first tested at 23andme back in 2010 I think it was I had 4% SSA. My Dad who was tested in 2013 had 7%. Now that has gone up 5% more for both of us. I think 23andme is wrong now.

Ours did the opposite. When my mother first tested, it was just shy of 2%. Then when I did mine, mine was 0.7%. We shared results and the phasing brought us both down to less than 1%, where we have stayed.. and both of our percentages dropped once more during one of the upgrades.

The other peculiarity is my mother has 0.8% Middle East/North African on 23andme. My grandmother has 0%. But we know this didn't come from Poland so it has to be from her.

lilac9
12-31-2017, 07:19 PM
Ours did the opposite. When my mother first tested, it was just shy of 2%. Then when I did mine, mine was 0.7%. We shared results and the phasing brought us both down to less than 1%, where we have stayed.. and both of our percentages dropped once more during one of the upgrades.

The other peculiarity is my mother has 0.8% Middle East/North African on 23andme. My grandmother has 0%. But we know this didn't come from Poland so it has to be from her.

23andme is terrible with the North African. I only get 1.4% on 23andme. With McDonald and many other calculators I get sometimes as high as 10% North African!

Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 07:21 PM
23andme is terrible with the North African. I only get 1.4% on 23andme. With McDonald and many other calculators I get sometimes as high as 10% North African!

Given all of the evidence what do you think is the most accurate amount of SSA for my grandmother and for yourself? I'd think 4% for her and probably 6% for you. For North African I don't know since she doesn't get it on most tests but on those she does, 2% or so seems right.

I did one more test for her I am waiting back on.. 24Genetics. We'll see what that gives.

lilac9
12-31-2017, 07:28 PM
Given all of the evidence what do you think is the most accurate amount of SSA for my grandmother and for yourself? I'd think 4% for her and probably 6% for you. For North African I don't know since she doesn't get it on most tests but on those she does, 2% or so seems right.

I did one more test for her I am waiting back on.. 24Genetics. We'll see what that gives.

I really can't say with any certainty which is correct since there is like a 5% standard deviation. If I had recent African ancestors I'd say that the highest one is correct. But I've searched the records back to the early 1800's on my Dad's side and haven't found anyone labeled negro (black). So the only explanation is the admix happened a long time ago on several lines I guess just like the Amerindian since my Amerindian is also like 9-10% and the Tainos died out in PR in the mid 1500's. African and Amerindian mix must have happened then is the only thing I can conclude. I also think that some of the Spaniards who came over in the 1500's may have carried some SSA. Most came from Sevilla and Sevilla in the 16th century was 7% African.

Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 07:31 PM
I really can't say with any certainty which is correct since there is like a 5% standard deviation. If I had recent African ancestors I'd say that the highest one is correct. But I've searched the records back to the early 1800's on my Dad's side and haven't found anyone labeled negro (black). So the only explanation is the admix happened a long time ago on several lines I guess just like the Amerindian since my Amerindian is also like 9-10% and the Tainos died out in PR in the mid 1500's. African and Amerindian mix must have happened then is the only thing I can conclude.

What about for my family? What seems like the most realistic guess?

The other interesting thing is both 23andme and Doug McDonald and FTDNA found small traces of Indigenous American in us, but it's below 1% in all of us.

lilac9
12-31-2017, 07:36 PM
What about for my family? What seems like the most realistic guess?

The other interesting thing is both 23andme and Doug McDonald and FTDNA found small traces of Indigenous American in us, but it's below 1% in all of us.

I don't know what's going on there since 23andme has the opposite situation of mine! But it seems like 23andme has something wrong with your ancestry painting because you said the African segments on yours and your Mom's are not African on your grandmothers but Iberian.

Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 07:44 PM
I don't know what's going on there since 23andme has the opposite situation of mine! But it seems like 23andme has something wrong with your ancestry painting because you said the African segments on yours and your Mom's are not African on your grandmothers but Iberian.

Yes.

This is just my impression and I'd like others' inputs too but I tend to go with what is consistent. Since everywhere else is in agreement and creates a clear picture from one generation to the next for all of us of our admixture and 23andme differs with results that do not make sense, I will go with the majority of results that do make sense.

Also, the segments my grandmother does have as African, the rest of us do not share. If I phased my mother and grandmother, which I will not do, it would either falsely interpret my mother's African as being from her father which is impossible, or it would result in her SSA components getting erased altogether.

lilac9
12-31-2017, 07:58 PM
Yes.

This is just my impression and I'd like others' inputs too but I tend to go with what is consistent. Since everywhere else is in agreement and creates a clear picture from one generation to the next for all of us of our admixture and 23andme differs with results that do not make sense, I will go with the majority of results that do make sense.

Also, the segments my grandmother does have as African, the rest of us do not share. If I phased my mother and grandmother, which I will not do, it would either falsely interpret my mother's African as being from her father which is impossible, or it would result in her SSA components getting erased altogether.

Hmm I think 23andme only phases one relative right? I would so like to unphase my Dad but it can't be done on 23andme. Your case was good to read about as it had the opposite situation to my own.

It makes sense because I think the North African at 23andme is also hidden in the Iberian component. I also see North Africans who score very little SSA on 23andme. I know that genotype and pheno don't always go together but they look like they have SSA physically from the few photos on 23andme yet show none in their ancestry painting. Meanwhile my Dad and several white PR's have like 10% SSA and show none in their phenotype. It's very perplexing to see lol.

Sikeliot
12-31-2017, 08:06 PM
Hmm I think 23andme only phases one relative right? I would so like to unphase my Dad but it can't be done on 23andme. Your case was good to read about as it had the opposite situation to my own.

It makes sense because I think the North African at 23andme is also hidden in the Iberian component. I also see North Africans who score very little SSA on 23andme. I know that genotype and pheno don't always go together but they look like they have SSA physically from the few photos on 23andme yet show none in their ancestry painting. Meanwhile my Dad and several white PR's have like 10% SSA and show none in their phenotype. It's very perplexing to see lol.

North Africans themselves are typically 20% SSA and this comes through on other tests, whether GEDMatch, FTDNA and so on. It makes me think 23andme is measuring ancestry very differently.

I don't trust 23andme when it comes to SSA at this point. If it turned out that everywhere else gave us all the same amount 23andme does, I would accept it but it's also not generationally consistent and that is an issue to me. 4-5% also makes sense with my grandmother having a fairly "white passing" Cape Verdean grandparent from Brava, where such types are commonplace.

It is also possible the Iberian component has changed over time on 23andme, which is why all of our results from different years are inconsistent.

Sikeliot
01-01-2018, 01:28 PM
Anyone else have other thoughts on this?

Sikeliot
01-02-2018, 11:02 PM
This is the one I wanted, MDLP run that was taken off GEDMatch. African is again in the 4-5% range when you add Sub-Saharan and Paleoafrican.

0.52% Melanesian
47.31% Westeuropean
1.51% Paleoafrican
6.18% ANI
23.27% MiddleEast
15.36% Northeasteuropean
1.19% Austronesian
0.78% ASI
0.08% Siberian
0.34% Uralic
0.00% Paleosiberian
2.62% Subsaharian
0.84% Amerindian

lukaszM
01-03-2018, 12:21 AM
Do you have other grandpas data?

Sikeliot
01-03-2018, 04:38 AM
Do you have other grandpas data?

I do not.

What is your impression of all these results?

lukaszM
01-03-2018, 11:41 AM
I do not.

What is your impression of all these results?

I checked her in updated K36 Oracle

Eurogenes K36:
Armenian 2.11
Basque 5.82
Central_Euro 1.32
East_Balkan 3.61
East_Central_Euro 7.13
Fennoscandian 3.03
French 7.93
Iberian 23.63
Italian 7.99
Malayan 0.55
Near_Eastern 3.15
North_African 2.74
North_Atlantic 13.68
North_Sea 2.22
Northeast_African 1.86
Omotic 2.05
Pygmy 0.26
West_Med 10.89



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spain_Andalusia @ 14,279404
2 Portugal @ 14,76219
3 Spain_Canarians @ 15,352757
4 Spain_Catalan @ 15,58992
5 Spain_Galicia @ 15,707286
6 Spain_Aragon @ 15,965475
7 Spain_Valencia @ 16,058341
8 Spain_Cantabria @ 16,41214
9 Asturia @ 16,455226
10 France_South @ 16,549623
387 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Spain_Cantabria+Austria @ 13,461745
2 Extremadura+France_NorthWest @ 13,621785
3 IT_Veneto+Spain_Cantabria @ 13,653735
4 Spain_Cantabria+Hungary @ 13,81405
5 Spain_Cantabria+Romania_NW @ 13,865394
6 Extremadura+France_Central @ 13,87206
7 Spain_Cantabria+Romania_SE @ 13,878743
8 IT_Piedmont+Spain_Cantabria @ 13,926587
9 Spain_Cantabria+France_NorthWest @ 13,949768
10 Spain_Cantabria+South_Germany @ 13,950524
75078 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Extremadura +25% IT_Sardinia +25% Scotland @ 11,388808
2 50% Spain_Cantabria +25% IT_Sardinia +25% Scotland @ 11,55593
3 50% Spain_Cantabria +25% Gr_Eubea +25% Scotland @ 11,593859
4 50% Spain_Cantabria +25% Portugal +25% Ukraine_Chernovtse @ 11,702141
5 50% Spain_Cantabria +25% Spain_Andalusia +25% Ukraine_Chernovtse @ 11,724235
6 50% Spain_Cantabria +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Ukraine_Chernovtse @ 11,767979
7 50% Spain_Cantabria +25% Spain_Cantabria +25% Ukraine_Chernovtse @ 11,785073
8 50% Spain_Cantabria +25% Portugal +25% Ukrainian_West @ 11,879182
9 50% Spain_Andalusia +25% IT_Sardinia +25% Scotland @ 11,883981
10 50% Spain_Cantabria +25% Spain_Canarians +25% Ukrainian_West @ 11,885331
22610192 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 IT_Sardinia+Spain_Cantabria+Extremadura+Scotland @ 10,88236
2 IT_Sardinia+Extremadura+Spain_Andalusia+Scotland @ 11,285251
3 IT_Sardinia+Extremadura+Spain_Aragon+Scotland @ 11,321281
4 IT_Sardinia+Extremadura+Extremadura+Scotland @ 11,388808
5 IT_Sardinia+Spain_La-Rioja+Extremadura+Scotland @ 11,394897
6 IT_Sardinia+Spain_La-Rioja+Scotland+Ukraine_Chernovtse @ 11,476558
7 IT_Sardinia+Extremadura+Asturia+Scotland @ 11,492186
8 IT_Sardinia+Spain_Cantabria+Spain_Andalusia+Scotla nd @ 11,545569
9 IT_Sardinia+Spain_Cantabria+Spain_Cantabria+Scotla nd @ 11,55593
10 IT_Sardinia+Spain_Canarians+Extremadura+Scotland @ 11,58362
11 Gr_Eubea+Spain_Cantabria+Spain_Cantabria+Scotland @ 11,593859
12 IT_Sardinia+Spain_Cantabria+Scotland+Ukraine_Chern ovtse @ 11,622595
13 IT_Sardinia+Spain_Cantabria+Spain_Aragon+Scotland @ 11,628434
14 IT_Sardinia+Spain_Canarians+Spain_Cantabria+Scotla nd @ 11,628646
15 IT_Sardinia+Extremadura+Spain_Valencia+Scotland @ 11,643164
16 IT_Sardinia+Spain_Cantabria+Extremadura+Ireland @ 11,648908
17 IT_Sardinia+Portugal+Extremadura+Scotland @ 11,663861
18 IT_Sardinia+Spain_Catalan+Extremadura+Scotland @ 11,66617
19 Portugal+Spain_Cantabria+Spain_Cantabria+Ukraine_C hernovtse @ 11,702141
20 Spain_Cantabria+Spain_Cantabria+Spain_Andalusia+Uk raine_Chernovtse @ 11,724235
578477606 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spain_Galicia @ 6,300317
2 Portugal @ 6,895866
3 Spain_Andalusia @ 8,034875
4 Extremadura @ 8,438239
5 Spain_Canarians @ 8,765533
6 Spain_Catalan @ 8,846177
7 France_NorthWest @ 8,856838
8 Spain_Valencia @ 8,977432
9 Spain_La-Rioja @ 9,307991
10 Spain_Aragon @ 9,333006
387 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Extremadura+Spain_Galicia @ 6,251922
2 Spain_Galicia+Spain_Galicia @ 6,300317
3 Spain_Galicia+Spain_Andalusia @ 6,373357
4 Spain_Galicia+Spain_Aragon @ 6,409584
5 Portugal+Spain_Galicia @ 6,547402
6 IT_Piedmont+Spain_Galicia @ 6,634671
7 Portugal+Extremadura @ 6,646892
8 Spain_Galicia+France_Central @ 6,718677
9 Spain_Cantabria+Spain_Galicia @ 6,72671
10 Spain_Catalan+Spain_Galicia @ 6,730133
75078 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spain_Galicia +25% Extremadura +25% Spain_Galicia @ 6,132314
2 50% Spain_Galicia +25% Spain_Cantabria +25% Extremadura @ 6,166487
3 50% Spain_Galicia +25% Extremadura +25% Spain_Aragon @ 6,215206
4 50% Spain_Galicia +25% Extremadura +25% France_Central @ 6,2324
5 50% Spain_Galicia +25% Spain_Galicia +25% Spain_Aragon @ 6,245004
6 50% Extremadura +25% Spain_Galicia +25% Spain_Galicia @ 6,251922
7 50% Spain_Galicia +25% Extremadura +25% Spain_Andalusia @ 6,261066
8 50% Spain_Galicia +25% Spain_Galicia +25% Spain_Andalusia @ 6,265917
9 50% Spain_Galicia +25% Spain_La-Rioja +25% Extremadura @ 6,289848

lukaszM
01-03-2018, 11:44 AM
K36 nMonte



[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Spain_Andalusia Portugal Spain_Canarians Spain_Catalan Spain_Galicia
14.27854 14.75958 15.34786 15.58963 15.70454
Spain_Aragon Spain_Valencia Spain_Cantabria
15.96529 16.05801 16.41531


[1] "distance%=9.3211 / distance=0.093211"


Spain_Cantabria 41.45
Scotland 19.05
IT_Sardinia 14.15
Spain_Extremadura 8.60
PL_Lublin 8.15
Ethiopia_Omotic 2.30
Morocco_Saharawi 2.10
Ethiopia_Oromo 1.55
Hadramut_Yemen 1.30
Ukraine_Chernovtse 0.85
Indonesian 0.40
Morocco 0.10

lukaszM
01-03-2018, 11:55 AM
I have idea, maybe this NE-euro signal combined with some Germanic is Askhenazi?

Sikeliot
01-03-2018, 12:24 PM
I have idea, maybe this NE-euro signal combined with some Germanic is Askhenazi?

Wouldn't there need to be some Levantine along with it though?

lukaszM
01-03-2018, 01:01 PM
Wouldn't there need to be some Levantine along with it though?

I didn't analise other calcs you posted, but in K36 Levantine could hide in Italian maybe? But yes, it is not very probable. So rather not Askhenazi.

Sikeliot
01-03-2018, 01:42 PM
I didn't analise other calcs you posted, but in K36 Levantine could hide in Italian maybe? But yes, it is not very probable. So rather not Askhenazi.

K36 gives her East African and not west too I wonder why.

lukaszM
01-03-2018, 01:59 PM
K36 gives her East African and not west too I wonder why.

In my K47 your grandma also had Kushitic and Omotic not West-African ( I used for West-African Yoruba and Esan which is most popular choice. Maybe with added Mandenka to reference she will have something, IDK). I think the reason is deeper in her 23&me or FTDNA rawdata (I don't know what you choose for her). Maybe those African snps were wrongly checked?

Sikeliot
01-03-2018, 02:24 PM
In my K47 your grandma also had Kushitic and Omotic not West-African ( I used for West-African Yoruba and Esan which is most popular choice. Maybe with added Mandenka to reference she will have something, IDK). I think the reason is deeper in her 23&me or FTDNA rawdata (I don't know what you choose for her). Maybe those African snps were wrongly checked?

On genome testing sites my family only gets west African. The east is only gedmatch

lukaszM
01-03-2018, 03:06 PM
On genome testing sites my family only gets west African. The east is only gedmatch

Wonder why, must be Dodecad script in such case.

Sikeliot
01-03-2018, 03:33 PM
Wonder why, must be Dodecad script in such case.

Might be Fulani ancestry. They have some East African affinities.

Sikeliot
01-03-2018, 10:38 PM
Wonder why, must be Dodecad script in such case.

I will also add, my mother also gets East African on some GEDmatch calculators but on genome testing sites she, too, comes up exclusively with West, not East, African. I feel like if the East African sample is influenced by Nilotic or Bantu people it could be mixing up some of those genes with West Africans, OR it could be combining a MENA component and a SubSaharan one into an "East African" component.

lukaszM
01-03-2018, 10:43 PM
I will also add, my mother also gets East African on some GEDmatch calculators but on genome testing sites she, too, comes up exclusively with West, not East, African. I feel like if the East African sample is influenced by Nilotic or Bantu people it could be mixing up some of those genes with West Africans, OR it could be combining a MENA component and a SubSaharan one into an "East African" component.

The last option seems plausible.