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navarro
01-03-2018, 03:11 AM
Two years ago I took an Ancestry test and recently took a mt full sequence. I got my results back and was wondering if there's anything else I could learn from my results, for example, about the mutations. Also, I've been searching for J1C1 on Google and on the sub-forums, but only got very little info on this haplogroup, if anyone could recommend a website or book, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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Osiris
01-03-2018, 07:41 AM
I always go to Phylotree (http://www.phylotree.org/tree/JT.htm) first and take every mutation from Eve to my haplogroup and make sure that everything that I have listed is in that list. Sometimes FTDNA won't list a mutation you have because you also have a later back mutation that occurs later. It's nice to know that you also have that back mutation.

You can also read a little at Eupedia (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J_mtDNA.shtml) where they say that J1c1 is found throughout Europe. You have a mutation in the coding region which should form some sort of clade which may be more localized.

The next thing to do is compare your extra mutations to others in the mtDNA Haplogroup project. Unfortunately all but one of your extra mutations are not usable, see the phylotree website at the top. The mutation you have in the coding zone is hidden to other users and you can't see others mutations there in the project. I'm not certain how FTDNA handles all those unusable mutations in FTDNA matches. But most likely the information you're after is known only to you and your matches on FTDNA. Potentially the project manager if given access to see coding regions could recognize a new clade for you. The only way I know of to get your clade onto the official phylotree is to donate your data to science but also you need matches to donate too.

Hope that helped, best of luck.

deadly77
01-03-2018, 06:08 PM
Hi Navarro - I was J1c1 through 23andme test and the FTDNA full sequence further refined that to J1c1b2. One of the things that I found most useful towards understanding how my mtDNA fir together was downloading the raw data from FTDNA and then running the data through James Lick's mthap tool, which can be found here: https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

I found it useful as it breaks up the mtDNA SNPs into colours - green for matches, red for mismatches, blue for extras, etc. which I found easier to read - see the FAQ while reading the results https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/FAQ.html

msmarjoribanks
01-05-2018, 02:37 AM
The mutation you have in the coding zone is hidden to other users and you can't see others mutations there in the project. I'm not certain how FTDNA handles all those unusable mutations in FTDNA matches. But most likely the information you're after is known only to you and your matches on FTDNA. Potentially the project manager if given access to see coding regions could recognize a new clade for you. The only way I know of to get your clade onto the official phylotree is to donate your data to science but also you need matches to donate too.

I believe the project manager can see it (assuming you give permission) and will use it to suggest new clades.

You will know who your matches are and how many differences there are, but have to email to identify the differences. I did this for a one mutation difference, as I knew that was a recent mutation (we were family finder matches). My dad has a bunch of one mutation differences that are in Germany and Sweden and Ireland and I'd like to see the differences to see if I can find a pattern (his matrilineal ancestor was in Suffolk in the 1500s), but you have to email, which is a pain.

Your advice is what I'd recommend for next steps, just wanted to chime in about FTDNA.