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Sapporo
01-05-2018, 10:35 AM
Unfortunately, I forgot to buy a 23andme V5 kit for my mother or father while they were on sale so I'll have to hold out until the next sale.


However, I've decided to get a new non 23andme kit for myself since my 23andme kit is from the very old V3 chip back in 2013. I've narrowed it down to the following 4:

FTDNA - Autosomal for $79

https://www.familytreedna.com/products

Ancestry.com - $79

https://www.ancestry.com/dna/?s_kwcid=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7ZOYxsjA2AIVUrbACh2oygLjEAQYASAB EgL0G_D_BwE&o_xid=55534&o_lid=55534&o_sch=Paid+Search+Non+Brand

My Heritage - $69

https://www.myheritage.com/dna?currency_name=USD&utm_source=ppc_google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=mh_search_us_en_des_mhdna_shop_dna-myheritage&utm_content=227201813195&utm_term=&tr_camp_id=957680541&tr_ad_group=dna_kit&tr_ag_id=49130412953&tr_placement=&tr_device=c&tr_account=904-055-9108&keyword=&tr_size=&recordtype=&recordlocation=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-urKsdDA2AIV3rjACh2h9QeZEAYYASABEgI31PD_BwE

Geno 2.0 - $99

https://shop.nationalgeographic.com/product/genographic-2.0-kits/geno-2.0-next-generation-genographic-helix-dna-ancestry-kit--u.s.-delivery

Currently, I'm leaning toward FTDNA but if you guys feel like I would be better served going with one of the other 3, please let me know. Depending on the feedback, I might buy 2 kits (one for me and one for either my mother or father).

MonkeyDLuffy
01-05-2018, 01:11 PM
FTDNA, because of compatibility and wide support with other tools.

poi
01-05-2018, 01:45 PM
Unfortunately, I forgot to buy a 23andme V5 kit for my mother or father while they were on sale so I'll have to hold out until the next sale.


However, I've decided to get a new non 23andme kit for myself since my 23andme kit is from the very old V3 chip back in 2013. I've narrowed it down to the following 4:

FTDNA - Autosomal for $79

https://www.familytreedna.com/products

Ancestry.com - $79

https://www.ancestry.com/dna/?s_kwcid=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7ZOYxsjA2AIVUrbACh2oygLjEAQYASAB EgL0G_D_BwE&o_xid=55534&o_lid=55534&o_sch=Paid+Search+Non+Brand

My Heritage - $69

https://www.myheritage.com/dna?currency_name=USD&utm_source=ppc_google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=mh_search_us_en_des_mhdna_shop_dna-myheritage&utm_content=227201813195&utm_term=&tr_camp_id=957680541&tr_ad_group=dna_kit&tr_ag_id=49130412953&tr_placement=&tr_device=c&tr_account=904-055-9108&keyword=&tr_size=&recordtype=&recordlocation=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-urKsdDA2AIV3rjACh2h9QeZEAYYASABEgI31PD_BwE

Geno 2.0 - $99

https://shop.nationalgeographic.com/product/genographic-2.0-kits/geno-2.0-next-generation-genographic-helix-dna-ancestry-kit--u.s.-delivery

Currently, I'm leaning toward FTDNA but if you guys feel like I would be better served going with one of the other 3, please let me know. Depending on the feedback, I might buy 2 kits (one for me and one for either my mother or father).

You already have 23andme v3, which has a very high overlap with ftdna... I don't think you get much out of ftdna in terms of raw SNP coverage.

I think Ancestry would be better for you based on my understanding of this chart.

https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_SNP_comparison_chart

khanabadoshi
01-05-2018, 03:25 PM
You already have 23andme v3, which has a very high overlap with ftdna... I don't think you get much out of ftdna in terms of raw SNP coverage.

I think Ancestry would be better for you based on my understanding of this chart.

https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_SNP_comparison_chart

From what I understand, FTDNA is probably going to be changing their chipset too, to be like V5 and LivingDNA.
So I'm glad that I did a LivingDNA test, as its comparable to V5. So when V3/V4 start having less overlap with newer samples, I'll just start relying on my LivingDNA raw data for autosomal comparisons.

I suppose for South Asians, it's important that we have maximum overlap with any ancient samples that come out from the region. Since more are yet to be typed I'm betting some significant ones will be on new chipsets, and I don't wanna be left behind!

MonkeyDLuffy
01-05-2018, 04:48 PM
I got tested on 23andme V4, so you'd recommend going with new chipset as well?

poi
01-05-2018, 04:59 PM
From what I understand, FTDNA is probably going to be changing their chipset too, to be like V5 and LivingDNA.
So I'm glad that I did a LivingDNA test, as its comparable to V5. So when V3/V4 start having less overlap with newer samples, I'll just start relying on my LivingDNA raw data for autosomal comparisons.

I suppose for South Asians, it's important that we have maximum overlap with any ancient samples that come out from the region. Since more are yet to be typed I'm betting some significant ones will be on new chipsets, and I don't wanna be left behind!

The best approach(correct me if I'm wrong) would to be have newer chip SNPs and older chip SNPs. Then, combine them in a format like 23andme to be uploaded into GedMatch calcs, DIY calcs, etc... this way, you have max SNPs coverage for old and new calcs alike. If old calcs use old SNPs, they are available. If new calcs use new SNPs, they are available as well. One raw file to rule them all (until BAM files are ubiquitous)?

Sapporo
01-05-2018, 10:37 PM
From what I understand, FTDNA is probably going to be changing their chipset too, to be like V5 and LivingDNA.
So I'm glad that I did a LivingDNA test, as its comparable to V5. So when V3/V4 start having less overlap with newer samples, I'll just start relying on my LivingDNA raw data for autosomal comparisons.

I suppose for South Asians, it's important that we have maximum overlap with any ancient samples that come out from the region. Since more are yet to be typed I'm betting some significant ones will be on new chipsets, and I don't wanna be left behind!

khana, what kit would you recommend for me then? I trust your feedback completely. poi recommended Ancestry.com so I'm definitely considering it more closely now. Especially, since apparently FTDNA is more or less similar to 23andMe V3.

Do you think Living DNA is better than the other 4 I noted above in the OP (taking into consideration I have 23andMe V3).

https://www.livingdna.com/en-us

Sapporo
01-10-2018, 02:51 AM
I'm about to order 2 Ancestry DNA kits for my mother and myself. Debating whether a third kit is worth it. Either Living DNA, My Heritage or FTDNA.

https://www.myheritage.com/dna?curre...SABEgI31PD_BwE

https://www.livingdna.com/en-us


Edit: Now I'm down to debating Living DNA and Ancestry DNA.

poi
01-11-2018, 05:56 PM
I'm about to order 2 Ancestry DNA kits for my mother and myself. Debating whether a third kit is worth it. Either Living DNA, My Heritage or FTDNA.

https://www.myheritage.com/dna?curre...SABEgI31PD_BwE

https://www.livingdna.com/en-us


Edit: Now I'm down to debating Living DNA and Ancestry DNA.

my opinion, of course

Since you can already run old/modern calculators at high genotype rate using your 23andme v3 data, adding AncestryDNA may not give you much. LivingDNA, like 23andme v5, is where commercial personal genomics is apparently headed towards, so future calculators might use their SNPs. Either way, you will not get much info now, but LivingDNA gets you covered for the future. Or, better yet, there is no rush for you to get either. If I were you, I would wait for a cheaper deal on LivingDNA/23andmev5, or get AncestryDNA just for more SNPs that will not be used by future commercial chips.

Sapporo
01-12-2018, 02:08 AM
my opinion, of course

Since you can already run old/modern calculators at high genotype rate using your 23andme v3 data, adding AncestryDNA may not give you much. LivingDNA, like 23andme v5, is where commercial personal genomics is apparently headed towards, so future calculators might use their SNPs. Either way, you will not get much info now, but LivingDNA gets you covered for the future. Or, better yet, there is no rush for you to get either. If I were you, I would wait for a cheaper deal on LivingDNA/23andmev5, or get AncestryDNA just for more SNPs that will not be used by future commercial chips.

Fair enough. I ended up just ordering 23andMe V5 kits for my mother (+health since she wanted it) and father. I also just went ahead and ordered a Living DNA kit for myself. I am going to hold off on the rest for now but may eventually get a male from my maternal family tested on 23andMe or Living DNA for Y-DNA purposes.