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JJBoogie
02-14-2018, 04:26 AM
My wife took a test at Ancestry and no Native American DNA showed up at all despite her grandmother telling her they were part Cherokee. You know how the story goes. Well anyways I uploaded her ancestry raw data file to MyHeritage and sure enough she got 1.8% Native American. Think it's noise? Or the real deal?

I am skeptical with MyHeritage. They were pretty different results for me as well. Anyways not sure which one is more accurate.

Thanks

sktibo
02-14-2018, 04:32 AM
I have found Ancestry to be more reliable in my family for Native American than MyHeritage, but MyHeritage still gave us the same consistent amounts - little difference for us. I think I remember seeing both MyHeritage and FTDNA MyOrigins giving Native American percentages to British people, while Ancestry seems less inclined to do that. IMO run her data through Eurogenes K36 on GEDmatch - that seems to have an excellent Amerindian component calculator.

JJBoogie
02-14-2018, 04:54 AM
I have found Ancestry to be more reliable in my family for Native American than MyHeritage, but MyHeritage still gave us the same consistent amounts - little difference for us. I think I remember seeing both MyHeritage and FTDNA MyOrigins giving Native American percentages to British people, while Ancestry seems less inclined to do that. IMO run her data through Eurogenes K36 on GEDmatch - that seems to have an excellent Amerindian component calculator.

Eurogenese K36 gave her .83% Amerindian. Not sure if that is noise or a little something something. :-)

Normally I would care about such a small percentage but things got a little heated last time she went home to visit her relatives and she told them all that she had zero Native American DNA. LOL!

sktibo
02-14-2018, 05:00 AM
Eurogenese K36 gave her .83% Amerindian. Not sure if that is noise or a little something something. :-)

Normally I would care about such a small percentage but things got a little heated last time she went home to visit her relatives and she told them all that she had zero Native American DNA. LOL!

I think she's got a little tiny bit of real Native American DNA then

Rafe
02-14-2018, 06:13 AM
My MH Native American percentage is close to that on 23andme, which is said to have the best autosomal ancestry test out there. I don't use AncestryDNA so I can't say anything about it. But in any case, there are other companies that will test your DNA for free - DNA.land and WeGene, for example. Maybe she should upload there - the more results she has, the safer will be the conclusion, I suppose. All of my results have been close to one another, with the biggest gap between any of two tests being 0.72%. However, I seem to have more NA than your wife (I'm in the 6-8% range), so maybe it is easier to receive close results across tests the further away from zero you are.

FionnSneachta
02-14-2018, 08:23 AM
Eurogenese K36 gave her .83% Amerindian. Not sure if that is noise or a little something something. :-)

Normally I would care about such a small percentage but things got a little heated last time she went home to visit her relatives and she told them all that she had zero Native American DNA. LOL!

Just something to bear in mind. My Irish dad gets 1% South American with FTDNA. On Eurogenes K36 he gets 1.22 Amerindian. I highly doubt that this is indicative of Native American ancestry for my dad.

Edit: Not having Native American DNA also doesn't rule out the possibility that your wife has a Native American ancestor. She just may not have inherited that DNA but the results don't seem to confirm it. Although there does seem to be lots of stories of native ancestors so it's hard to know.

JJBoogie
02-14-2018, 03:31 PM
Just something to bear in mind. My Irish dad gets 1% South American with FTDNA. On Eurogenes K36 he gets 1.22 Amerindian. I highly doubt that this is indicative of Native American ancestry for my dad.

Edit: Not having Native American DNA also doesn't rule out the possibility that your wife has a Native American ancestor. She just may not have inherited that DNA but the results don't seem to confirm it. Although there does seem to be lots of stories of native ancestors so it's hard to know.

True true! Her dad's family tree goes back a long time here in the U.S. and they were poor hillbillies living in a Cherokee area so it's certainly believable. Anyways I appreciate all the input here.

Geborgenheit
02-17-2018, 05:46 AM
1.8% could mean a distant ancestor or nothing at all.

fostert
02-17-2018, 05:29 PM
Just something to bear in mind. My Irish dad gets 1% South American with FTDNA. On Eurogenes K36 he gets 1.22 Amerindian. I highly doubt that this is indicative of Native American ancestry for my dad.

Edit: Not having Native American DNA also doesn't rule out the possibility that your wife has a Native American ancestor. She just may not have inherited that DNA but the results don't seem to confirm it. Although there does seem to be lots of stories of native ancestors so it's hard to know.

I also get a miniscule NA percentage (0.5%) in K36, however no-where else do I register any NA (and I have taken all the major DNA tests out there, including 23, Ancestry, MH, FTDNA, Living, GENCOVE, DNA.Land, etc). As well I can't find any NA in my paper tree, which goes back to Ukraine, Ireland, England, and France. So, I have learned to be extremely wary of small percentages (<5%) in these tests. I am very certain that anything under 1% is "noise" (i.e. unrepeatable).

That being said, though, all these companies test only a small part of the whole genome, so if I do have NA DNA, it may be on sections of my genome that are not covered by these targeted SNP arrays.

JJBoogie
02-18-2018, 04:35 AM
1.8% could mean a distant ancestor or nothing at all.

Exactly!

FionnSneachta
02-19-2018, 07:04 PM
I also get a miniscule NA percentage (0.5%) in K36, however no-where else do I register any NA (and I have taken all the major DNA tests out there, including 23, Ancestry, MH, FTDNA, Living, GENCOVE, DNA.Land, etc). As well I can't find any NA in my paper tree, which goes back to Ukraine, Ireland, England, and France. So, I have learned to be extremely wary of small percentages (<5%) in these tests. I am very certain that anything under 1% is "noise" (i.e. unrepeatable).

That being said, though, all these companies test only a small part of the whole genome, so if I do have NA DNA, it may be on sections of my genome that are not covered by these targeted SNP arrays.

My dad gets Amerindian on other GEDmatch calculators too but I didn't check them all. On Eurogenes K13, he gets 2.27% Amerindian. On MDLP K11 Modern, he gets 2.63% Amerindian. On Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15, he gets 1.89% Amerindian. I get 1.20% Amerindian on the K13.

Like Geborgenheit said, that small of a percentage in someone could mean that they have an Amerindian ancestor from long ago or it could mean nothing at all. Even if someone doesn't get an Amerindian percentage, it also doesn't mean that they don't have an Amerindian ancestor.

fostert
02-19-2018, 09:33 PM
My dad gets Amerindian on other GEDmatch calculators too but I didn't check them all. On Eurogenes K13, he gets 2.27% Amerindian. On MDLP K11 Modern, he gets 2.63% Amerindian. On Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15, he gets 1.89% Amerindian. I get 1.20% Amerindian on the K13.

On Eurogenes K36 using LivingDNA (uploaded to Genesis GEDMATCH) I get 0% Amerindian; whereas with AncestryDNA there I get 0.3% and with 23&me data 0.5%. Thus I have to conclude that I have no measurable native american DNA. Kind of makes sense because by about 10 generations in the past all people in my paper tree are back in their "old countries" in europe.


Like Geborgenheit said, that small of a percentage in someone could mean that they have an Amerindian ancestor from long ago or it could mean nothing at all. Even if someone doesn't get an Amerindian percentage, it also doesn't mean that they don't have an Amerindian ancestor.

Agreed with this: however, to really rule this out one should be testing with multiple companies, and trying out as many 3rd party calculators too. If NA still does not show up with many tests across many calculators, I'd say its pretty clear they don't have an Amerindian ancestor. This is my case (tested with 23,Living,Ancestry,MH,FTDNA, and transferred to DNA.Land, geneplaza,gencove,gedmatch - all 0% NA) and its kind of odd: I heard several genealogists in Canada say there isn't a canadian alive that doesn't have some NA in their past.