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Fire Haired
09-22-2013, 02:13 AM
I have already made a thread on this website trying to summarize how I think R1b1a2a1a L11 and Germanic and Italo Celtic languages spread in western Europe.(click here (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?1350-Spread-of-R1b1a2a1a-L11-Germanic-Italo-Celts-in-western-Europe) to see it). Where I include how I think R1b1a2a1a2b S28/U152 spread to get my full idea u should read the R1b1a2a1a2b S28 part. I said this on the thread this is not my personal crazy theory or something I see that FTDNA(FTDNA R1b (http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b/default.aspx?section=results)) and Eupedia (Eupedia R1b (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml)) are saying basically the same thing. FTDNA says the age estimates of R1b1a2a1a2b S28/U152 is 3,500-5,000 years old it would make sense it expanded first after its age so I guess average 4,500-3,000ybp. R1b1a2a1a2b S28/U152 is most popular in Italy mainly northern Italy. It also is popular in central Europe and France its distribution also is at 1-5% in areas of eastern Europe and even central Turkey that La Tene Galatians conquered and settled in the 300's and 200'sbc. It shows huge connection with Hallstat (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHallsta tt_culture&ei=Tko-UqK3EYOGyQGSi4HIDQ&usg=AFQjCNEEcOxr9MyRVR2Y4cu7yzREpRtFPQ) and La Tene (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLa_T%25 C3%25A8ne_culture&ei=X0o-Ur_zBqOWyAHboYHwAg&usg=AFQjCNHMXjiEd7NZIb9V6cGYdj_YkRHAPg)Celtic culture and the spread of Italic tribes starting with Urnfield (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUrnfiel d_culture&ei=P0o-Ut22L_GEygGnx4HQBA&usg=AFQjCNFiQZ9OiLC2boFrSbQAv9K1jC8CZg) in Italy later Villnoeavan (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FVillano van_culture&ei=G0o-Uq49xJXKAa7hgagP&usg=AFQjCNEomyEEihCqZAFE9TdgjfgZ461ePA). So the spread of Italic tribes comes out of Urnfield culture the same culture that is the father to Celtic Hallstat culture not a surprise both those Celtic tribes and Italic tribes are connected with R1b1a2a1a2b S28/U152. So it would make sense also with the age estiamtes that Urnfield culture is the begging of the expansion of R1b1a2a1a2b S28/U152.

There is also a style of sword I call the R1b1a2a1a2b S28/U152 sword. The reason is because look at top 3,000 year old bronze weapons from Yrnfield north Italy compare it to the swords on bottom they are 3,000 year old Hallstat swords from central Europe.
http://imageshack.us/a/img823/5298/villanov2.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Lat%C3%A9nium-%C3%A9p%C3%A9es-bronze.jpg/220px-Lat%C3%A9nium-%C3%A9p%C3%A9es-bronze.jpg

Same style of sword the signature Celtic longsword is. Here is a link to it being shown and tested on Spike TV show Deadliest warrior.
http://www.spike.com/video-clips/dt9hsy/deadliest-warrior-head-collectors

Its an incredibly deadly sword and the main sword for Roman military during the Roman empire the gladius was made by Hallstat Celts in Iberia. So they were very good in metal technology probably a big reason they were able to spread. Western and central Europe in the late bronze and iron age was dominated by Celts descended of Urnfield culture who conquered pretty much all of it. Then Rome which was Italic(descended from Urnfield culture) completely dominated the entire Mediterranean sea and conquered almost all Celts except Picts in modern Scotland and Gealic's in modern Ireland. So in military the nations descended from Urfnfield culture and their signature Y DNA haplogroup being R1b1a2a1a2b S28/U152 dominated most of Europe and with Rome the civilized world. R1b1a2a1a2b was very successful from the start of Urnfield to the end of the Roman empire.