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Jan_Noack
03-02-2018, 04:16 AM
Do YOU Match ancient mtDNA found in these skeletons?
Check here - Mito list (http://biorxiv.org/highwire/filestream/40100/field_highwire_adjunct_files/1/135962-2.xlsx)
"http://biorxiv.org/highwire/filestream/40100/field_highwire_adjunct_files/1/135962-2.xlsx"

I seem to have an exact match with this K1a26 skeleton below , over 4000 years old. :)

In the following supplementary info on Bell Beaker skeletons studied :
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2017/05/09/135962.DC1/135962-1.pdf

lines 1359, Yarnton 1359 (Oxfordshire, England)
1361 Yarnton is a large gravel extraction quarry situated in the Upper Thames Valley,
1362 approximately 5 miles north of Oxford. Archaeological excavations took place between
1363 1990 and 1998, during which time evidence of prehistoric settlement, burial and
1364 landscape development was investigated, including inhumation burials of early (Beaker)
1365 and middle Bronze Age date101.
1366 Beaker period skeletons 8772, 8633, 8784 and 8779 were found on the Summertown-
1367 Radley gravel terrace overlooking the floodplain of the Thames"...

..."1377 Thirty-five metres to the east was burial 8779, a neonate which had been placed in the
1378 top of a pit with Beaker pottery, worked flint, a polished bone point, animal bone and
1379 charred plant remains. The body had been disturbed but was articulated, and it is
1380 uncertain whether the pit deposit was related to the death of this newborn or whether the
1381 body was one of a number of symbolically-charged objects placed within the pit.

"1386 Ÿ I2447/SK 8779 (YCF 95): 2400–2040 BCE" age of skeleton

from "http://biorxiv.org/highwire/filestream/40100/field_highwire_adjunct_files/1/135962-2.xlsx"
line 43 I2447 297.9 K1a26 16192T,
73G, 195C, 263G, 497T, 750G, 1189C, 1438G, 1811G, 2706G, 3480G, 4113A, 4769G, 7028T, 8860G, 9055A, 9698C, 10398G, 10550G, 11299C, 11467G, 11719A, 12308G, 12372A, 14167T, 14766T, 14798C, 15326G, 16093C, 16224C, 16311C, 16519C
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I'm K1a26 tested at FTDNA with a full mito test. Looking at my test results, I have all the same results.
This ancient DNA doesn't have quite as many readings (as it is difficult to get all readings from a skeleton that old..or maybe as all the mito changes had not occurred then ? ) BUT for every result the skeleton had, I matched completely.

I've found a mito match! I'm not sure if I can call it zero?( as in FTDNA GD ?)..but the skeleton matches me exactly where it has results.

My previous match(at zero I found on mitosearch) came from close by where my gr gr grandmother (approx. 1740 -1840 ) came from in Nth Ireland near Armagh, and this is OXFORD. (about 2000 BC).
hmmm. so my proudly presumed Scots/Irish/west Hebrides Scot Isles line is found here at Oxford 4000 + years ago...or at least a related branch to my presumed line..a bit thought provoking

So did the sample got contaminated by someone today who matches me ... or I match this ancient DNA from near Oxford?


My results
these the same as I2447 skeleton 16192T,
73G, 195C, 263G, 497T, 750G, 1189C, 1438G, 1811G, 2706G, 3480G, 4113A, 4769G,
7028T, 8860G, 9055A, 9698C, 10398G, 10550G, 11299C, 11467G, 11719A, 12308G,
12372A, 14167T, 14766T, 14798C, 15326G, 16093C, 16224C, 16311C, 16519C

and also I got EXTRA readings
315.1 C, 523.1 C, 523.1 A,
15646 T, 15890 T ( (I'm not sure if these are not measured in the ancient DNA or new since that time.. Any mito dating estimation, like for YDNA SNPs? ?)
16093Y,(same as a C and a T), the skeleton has a C..so I count this as a match (I doubt the skeletons would be tested for heteroplasmy?)

msmarjoribanks
03-02-2018, 06:32 PM
Super cool.

There's a K2b2 ancient sample: Corded Ware, Germany, Esperstedt [I1544/ESP 36], M, 2500-2050 BC (also R1a L63, L146). I would so like to be able to do a comparison.

Not enough of the published mtDNA results are specific.

Jan_Noack
03-04-2018, 06:18 AM
here's another list with some more defined mtDNA to check for a match with
http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/ironagedna.shtml
only a K2a5 no K2b2

A Norfolk L-M20
03-04-2018, 12:22 PM
Yes I do. I'm mtDNA H6a1a (H6a1a8). I already knew that my mtDNA(H6a1/a) looks to have a Steppe origin. The earliest so far found is Yamna, followed by Corded Ware and Unetice, finally by a Bell Beaker sample from the Lower Rhineland.

I see that sample 14071 was the latter "I4071 Tui BB_Netherlands_Tui". Lots of similiar mutations to my own.

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21939&d=1520165609

Mine.

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21940&d=1520165974

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21941&d=1520166105

Jan_Noack
03-04-2018, 08:59 PM
Yes I do. I'm mtDNA H6a1a (H6a1a8). I already knew that my mtDNA(H6a1/a) looks to have a Steppe origin. The earliest so far found is Yamna, followed by Corded Ware and Unetice, finally by a Bell Beaker sample from the Lower Rhineland.

I see that sample 14071 was the latter "I4071 Tui BB_Netherlands_Tui". Lots of similiar mutations to my own.

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21939&d=1520165609

Mine.


https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21941&d=1520166105
they only reported rCRS values on the skeletons.
That's exciting..so close to Norfolk. My husband may match on the Y with I4070, , they are both U106 only the Y in that skeleton so far has not been tested at a deep enough level to say for sure (maybe it is too degraded. His ancestry is Kent on that male line. Interesting isn't it.
have a look at https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2017/05/09/135962.DC1/135962-1.pdf lines 420 to 470 for more detail of the burials on that site. I think they are bronze age burials.