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poi
03-06-2018, 06:12 AM
This could be fun. How forum members are composites of other members lol

poi . without pnb


[1] "distance%=2.7182"

poi

punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,36.8
Khana_GM_Brother,16.4
Khana_GM,11.6
sapporo,9.6
Jortita_scaled,6
Reza_Wife,5.6
Reza,4.6
Reza_Mother,3.6
ASI_Ghost,3
Khana,1.6
Kush_scaled,1.2


poi - with pnb


[1] "distance%=2.112"

poi

pnb_scaled,68.8
Khana_GM_Brother,11.6
punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,5.8
Reza_Wife,4.8
Khana_GM,4.2
Jortita_scaled,2.8
ASI_Ghost,1
sapporo,1

poi
03-06-2018, 06:13 AM
sapporo


[1] "distance%=2.5684"

sapporo

Khana,43
punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,40.4
Khana_GM,8
Khana_Uncle,8
Khana_GM_Brother,0.6


monkeydluffy


[1] "distance%=2.08"

punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled

sapporo,46.4
Khana_GF_Sister,30.4
poi,13.4
Kush_scaled,3.4
Khana_GM,2.2
Reza_Mother,1.6
ASI_Ghost,1.4
Reza,1
pnb_scaled,0.2

poi
03-06-2018, 06:16 AM
Reza


[1] "distance%=1.7397"

Reza

Reza_Mother,55.2
Jortita_scaled,22.8
Reza_Wife,8.8
ASI_Ghost,8.4
pnb_scaled,3.4
Khana_GM_Brother,0.8
Khana_GM,0.4
poi,0.2


Reza - no relatives


[1] "distance%=2.4771"

Reza

Jortita_scaled,55.8
ASI_Ghost,14.4
Kush_scaled,13.6
pnb_scaled,5
punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,2.4
sapporo,2
Khana_GF_Sister,1.6
Khana_GM,1.6
Khana_GM_Brother,1.6
Khana_Uncle,1
poi,1

misanthropy
03-06-2018, 06:28 AM
Lmao!

poi
03-06-2018, 06:29 AM
kush


[1] "distance%=4.6586"

Kush_scaled

Reza_Mother,30.6
Khana_GF_Sister,18.2
Reza_Wife,13.2
ASI_Ghost,9.6
Reza,9.6
punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,6.6
sapporo,3.8
Khana,3.4
Khana_Uncle,3.4
pnb_scaled,1.6


Khana


[1] "distance%=2.0505"

Khana

Khana_Uncle,64.2
sapporo,23.6
pnb_scaled,4
Khana_GM_Brother,3.6
poi,2.6
Kush_scaled,1.2
Reza_Wife,0.4
Jortita_scaled,0.2
Reza_Mother,0.2



Khana - without relatives


[1] "distance%=3.2663"

Khana

sapporo,89.2
poi,5.8
pnb_scaled,4.8
Jortita_scaled,0.2

poi
03-06-2018, 06:34 AM
pnb - without poi


[1] "distance%=2.6467"

pnb_scaled

punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,25.4
sapporo,17.6
Khana,10.2
Khana_GM_Brother,10.2
Khana_GM,9.4
Reza_Wife,6.2
Kush_scaled,5.8
Reza,5.6
Jortita_scaled,5.2
ASI_Ghost,3.4
Reza_Mother,1


pnb


[1] "distance%=2.0883"

pnb_scaled

poi,69.6
sapporo,7.8
Khana,4.2
Kush_scaled,4
Khana_GM,3.2
Reza,2.2
Khana_GF_Sister,2
Khana_Uncle,2
ASI_Ghost,1.8
Reza_Wife,1.8
punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,0.8
Jortita_scaled,0.4
Khana_GM_Brother,0.2

khanabadoshi
03-06-2018, 07:58 AM
This is great hahaha.

Sapporo
03-06-2018, 11:05 AM
I seriously want to get my mother's raw data so bad now! I want to see if I can be modeled as 98% her or vice versa when I get my father's 23andMe V5.

bmoney
03-06-2018, 11:29 AM
This could be fun. How forum members are composites of other members lol

poi . without pnb


[1] "distance%=2.7182"

poi

punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,36.8
Khana_GM_Brother,16.4
Khana_GM,11.6
sapporo,9.6
Jortita_scaled,6
Reza_Wife,5.6
Reza,4.6
Reza_Mother,3.6
ASI_Ghost,3
Khana,1.6
Kush_scaled,1.2


poi - with pnb


[1] "distance%=2.112"

poi

pnb_scaled,68.8
Khana_GM_Brother,11.6
punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,5.8
Reza_Wife,4.8
Khana_GM,4.2
Jortita_scaled,2.8
ASI_Ghost,1
sapporo,1


LOL poi great idea

Reza
03-06-2018, 12:35 PM
This is pretty fun, thanks poi!

Could you model my mum's too?

I'm surprised I don't show more similarity to her?

poi
03-06-2018, 05:15 PM
This is pretty fun, thanks poi!

Could you model my mum's too?

I'm surprised I don't show more similarity to her?
Reza Mom


[1] "distance%=2.4368"

Reza_Mother

Reza,83.8
Kush_scaled,6.6
Khana_Uncle,2.4
Khana_GF_Sister,2.2
Khana_GM,1.8
punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,1.8
Khana_GM_Brother,0.8
Khana,0.4
sapporo,0.2


Reza Mom - no relatives


[1] "distance%=3.3492"

Reza_Mother

Jortita_scaled,49.8
Kush_scaled,21.4
ASI_Ghost,9.8
Khana_GF_Sister,5.4
punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,3.6
Khana_Uncle,2.4
poi,2.4
Khana_GM,2
Khana_GM_Brother,1.8
sapporo,1.4

jortita
03-07-2018, 01:26 AM
Poi, can you do mine as well, thanks

poi
03-07-2018, 01:39 AM
Poi, can you do mine as well, thanks

I thought I did, but apparently didn't.

Your distance isn't too bad. Do you have direct non-Indian EastAsian or the nature of Assamese means EastAsian inherently present and those are accounted for by Bengalis(Reza clan) and me?

jortita


[1] "distance%=3.9503"

Jortita_scaled

Reza_Wife,59.4
Reza,34.8
Khana_GM_Brother,3.8
Khana_GM,1.2
poi,0.8

jortita
03-07-2018, 04:03 AM
I thought I did, but apparently didn't.

Your distance isn't too bad. Do you have direct non-Indian EastAsian or the nature of Assamese means EastAsian inherently present and those are accounted for by Bengalis(Reza clan) and me?

jortita


[1] "distance%=3.9503"

Jortita_scaled

Reza_Wife,59.4
Reza,34.8
Khana_GM_Brother,3.8
Khana_GM,1.2
poi,0.8


Assamese other than Assamese Brahmins and some people of lower Assam are inherently mixed and I do not look typical South Asian at all, in nepal I look more closer to East Asian influenced Newar

poi
03-07-2018, 05:28 AM
Assamese other than Assamese Brahmins and some people of lower Assam are inherently mixed and I do not look typical South Asian at all, in nepal I look more closer to East Asian influenced Newar

Oh, interesting. Newars, based on the Cole 2017 paper, appear to be half Ancient-Tibeo-Burman and half Ancient-North-Indian composites. I'm sure there are subgroups that are more ANI and some more ATB. Is that what you see in your profile as well? In the Harappan and Global25 PCA, you are in the South Asian cline shifted towards East Asian, but nothing too far. Correct me if I'm off base.

Phenotypically, from my experience here in the (South/western)sUS, most Newars either are seen as South Asians or Latin American migrants.

jortita
03-07-2018, 06:25 AM
Oh, interesting. Newars, based on the Cole 2017 paper, appear to be half Ancient-Tibeo-Burman and half Ancient-North-Indian composites. I'm sure there are subgroups that are more ANI and some more ATB. Is that what you see in your profile as well? In the Harappan and Global25 PCA, you are in the South Asian cline shifted towards East Asian, but nothing too far. Correct me if I'm off base.

Phenotypically, from my experience here in the (South/western)sUS, most Newars either are seen as South Asians or Latin American migrants.

I mean jyapu as I have jyapu friends who are more ATB

jortita
03-07-2018, 06:25 AM
Oh, interesting. Newars, based on the Cole 2017 paper, appear to be half Ancient-Tibeo-Burman and half Ancient-North-Indian composites. I'm sure there are subgroups that are more ANI and some more ATB. Is that what you see in your profile as well? In the Harappan and Global25 PCA, you are in the South Asian cline shifted towards East Asian, but nothing too far. Correct me if I'm off base.

Phenotypically, from my experience here in the (South/western)sUS, most Newars either are seen as South Asians or Latin American migrants.

Poi, i think my east asian ancestry is highly underestimated by all these companies, i am still to test with 23andMe

jortita
03-07-2018, 11:24 AM
Poi, I personally think harappa is outdated and Kurds k29 on geneplaza is more accurate in terms of recent asian ancestry. As I mentioned, my concern is that some of my other East Asian ancestry is possibly grouped under South Asia. We will not know the truth either ways, till ADNA from South Asia is released

bmoney
03-07-2018, 01:53 PM
Poi, I personally think harappa is outdated and Kurds k29 on geneplaza is more accurate in terms of recent asian ancestry. As I mentioned, my concern is that some of my other East Asian ancestry is possibly grouped under South Asia. We will not know the truth either ways, till ADNA from South Asia is released

How much E Asian components did you get in Lukasz K47? thats probably the only moderns calc with the split

excluding SE Asian

jortita
03-08-2018, 01:59 AM
How much E Asian components did you get in Lukasz K47? thats probably the only moderns calc with the split

excluding SE Asian

Bmoney, the issue is not the individual calculators but more on the base data, i.e., Ancestry DNA, National Geographic, Living DNA and MyHeritageDNA, I personally feel they have all underestimated my East Asian ancestry

bmoney
03-08-2018, 02:22 AM
Bmoney, the issue is not the individual calculators but more on the base data, i.e., Ancestry DNA, National Geographic, Living DNA and MyHeritageDNA, I personally feel they have all underestimated my East Asian ancestry

Ancestrydna due to overlap levels with these calcs its unlikely to be off by more than 2-3% Jortita, you have to accept that phenotypes do not equal genotype

poi
03-08-2018, 02:28 AM
Bmoney, the issue is not the individual calculators but more on the base data, i.e., Ancestry DNA, National Geographic, Living DNA and MyHeritageDNA, I personally feel they have all underestimated my East Asian ancestry

Has there been studies on the Assamiya people? At least based on Nepali populations, there is a clear distinction between "ATB" and "ANI", so the PCA shows ATB-derived populations clearly in a different cline. Perhaps Assamiya people have something similar? Based on your data(which you are disputing so understood), perhaps Assamiya are not totally separate from the general SouthAsian cline as the ATB groups are. Please excuse my ignorance in this matter. But that Nepal paper from Cole et al 2017 was really eyeopening.

jortita
03-08-2018, 07:32 AM
Has there been studies on the Assamiya people? At least based on Nepali populations, there is a clear distinction between "ATB" and "ANI", so the PCA shows ATB-derived populations clearly in a different cline. Perhaps Assamiya people have something similar? Based on your data(which you are disputing so understood), perhaps Assamiya are not totally separate from the general SouthAsian cline as the ATB groups are. Please excuse my ignorance in this matter. But that Nepal paper from Cole et al 2017 was really eyeopening.

My results show that I am more Southeast Asian oriented than the Nepali populations which might explain the similarity with South Asian cline as relates to AAA

jortita
03-08-2018, 07:35 AM
Ancestrydna due to overlap levels with these calcs its unlikely to be off by more than 2-3% Jortita, you have to accept that phenotypes do not equal genotype

At the same time, I feel there is an East Asian ancestral population from Assam which is being categorised as South Asia. Please see my Papuan and Oceanian scores which are much higher than all South Asians including Reza and other Sylheti Bangladeshis, especially for my LivingDNA raw data

jortita
03-08-2018, 07:37 AM
The reason why I feel strongly is not because of phenotype but genetic characteristics and traits, none of mine correspond with West Eurasian oriented South Asians

poi
03-09-2018, 02:35 AM
The reason why I feel strongly is not because of phenotype but genetic characteristics and traits, none of mine correspond with West Eurasian oriented South Asians

Could you elaborate? Btw, I am not doubting you at all, but very curious about what you mean.

Kirtan24
05-10-2020, 08:59 AM
This could be fun. How forum members are composites of other members lol

poi . without pnb


[1] "distance%=2.7182"

poi

punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,36.8
Khana_GM_Brother,16.4
Khana_GM,11.6
sapporo,9.6
Jortita_scaled,6
Reza_Wife,5.6
Reza,4.6
Reza_Mother,3.6
ASI_Ghost,3
Khana,1.6
Kush_scaled,1.2


poi - with pnb


[1] "distance%=2.112"

poi

pnb_scaled,68.8
Khana_GM_Brother,11.6
punjabi_Ramgarhia_scaled,5.8
Reza_Wife,4.8
Khana_GM,4.2
Jortita_scaled,2.8
ASI_Ghost,1
sapporo,1


Looks fun, could you run me as well? :D

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