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J Man
08-14-2012, 04:21 PM
This is a new thread to post results and have discussions about Vadim Verenich's Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae Project (MDLP). He has a variety of ADMIXTURE calculators on GEDmatch. To get things started here I will post my families' results for his newest MDLP-World 22 analysis on GEDmatch.

http://gedmatch.com/

Paternal Grandfather (100% Italian, Calabria Region)

Population
Pygmy 0.41%
West-Asian 25.08%
North-European-Mesolithic 1.04%
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican -
Arctic-Amerind -
South-America_Amerind -
Indian -
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 36.06%
Samoedic -
Indo-Iranian -
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 15.89%
South-African -
North-Amerind -
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 21.25%
Melanesian 0.28%
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian -



Father (50% Italian, 50% Finnish)

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 11.33%
North-European-Mesolithic 11.32%
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican -
Arctic-Amerind 0.49%
South-America_Amerind -
Indian 0.93%
North-Siberean 0.95%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 28.80%
Samoedic 0.95%
Indo-Iranian 0.18%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 34.72%
South-African 0.26%
North-Amerind -
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 9.74%
Melanesian 0.17%
Paleo-Siberian 0.12%
Austronesian -


Paternal Uncle (Father's Brother)

Population
Pygmy 0.18%
West-Asian 12.33%
North-European-Mesolithic 9.82%
Indo-Tibetan 0.62%
Mesoamerican -
Arctic-Amerind 1.04%
South-America_Amerind 0.21%
Indian 0.33%
North-Siberean 0.45%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 28.56%
Samoedic -
Indo-Iranian 0.33%
East-Siberean 0.17%
North-East-European 35.39%
South-African -
North-Amerind -
Sub-Saharian 0.14%
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 8.97%
Melanesian 0.68%
Paleo-Siberian 0.78%
Austronesian -


Mother (100% Irish/British Isles)

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 6.33%
North-European-Mesolithic 4.51%
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican 0.05%
Arctic-Amerind 0.06%
South-America_Amerind -
Indian -
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 35.08%
Samoedic 0.80%
Indo-Iranian 2.57%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 49.27%
South-African 0.06%
North-Amerind 0.82%
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East -
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian 0.39%


Great Uncle (100% Irish/British Isles)

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 6.69%
North-European-Mesolithic 5.85%
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican 0.07%
Arctic-Amerind 0.46%
South-America_Amerind -
Indian 0.39%
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 35.53%
Samoedic 0.66%
Indo-Iranian 1.02%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 46.20%
South-African 0.23%
North-Amerind -
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 2.64%
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian 0.15%
Austronesian 0.10%


Me (25% Italian, 25% Finnish, 50% Irish/British Isles)

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 7.66%
North-European-Mesolithic 10.04%
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican -
Arctic-Amerind -
South-America_Amerind -
Indian -
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 31.86%
Samoedic 1.14%
Indo-Iranian 2.36%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 41.59%
South-African 0.25%
North-Amerind 0.61%
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 3.74%
Melanesian 0.74%
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian -

DMXX
08-14-2012, 08:58 PM
My results on the MDLP World-22 calculator (only components >1%) and the Oracle results.

The results make a fair amount of sense. Every project I have participated in has brought my East Asian DNA total at ~4.4%. In the later runs, both Eurogenes and Dodecad gave me between 7-11% North European.

I am presuming Vadim is using the Behar et al. Iranians as a surrogate, explaining why my "primary" source populations are other Near-Eastern ethnic groups which generally lack Sub-Saharan African admixture (or to a lesser extent than the Behar Iranians).

The secondary populations tend to be South-Central Asian. This again matches my Dodecad Oracle results sans Iranians with scores like 70% Armenian + 30% Kalash.

That the very first match is essentially a 50/50 mix of Near-Eastern and Central Asian is very interesting to see.



# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 39.09
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 17.39
3 Near_East 17.15
4 North-East-European 8.52
5 Indian 6.41
6 Indo-Iranian 4.57
7 East-Siberean 1.97
8 East-South-Asian 1.36




# Primary Population (source) Second Population (source) Distance
1 53.6% Druze (derived) + 46.4% Tadjik (derived) @ 3.31
2 56.2% Lebanese (derived) + 43.8% Tadjik (derived) @ 3.78
3 55.5% Jew_Georgia (derived)+ 44.5% Tadjik (derived) @ 4.28
4 83.6% Turk (derived) + 16.4% Burusho (derived) @ 4.29
5 54.9% Jew_Syria (derived) + 45.1% Pashtun (derived) @ 4.32
6 82.5% Turk (derived) + 17.5% Pathan (derived) @ 4.37
7 63.8% Iranian (derived) + 36.2% Tatar_Crim (derived) @ 4.39
8 89.8% Turk (derived) + 10.2% Hindu (derived) @ 4.51
9 85.5% Turk (derived) + 14.5% Sindhi (derived) @ 4.57
10 82.3% Turk (derived) + 17.7% Balochi (derived) @ 4.58
11 87.1% Turk (derived) + 12.9% Jew_India (derived) @ 4.71
12 59.7% Lebanese (derived) + 40.3% Pashtun (derived) @ 4.73
13 76.5% Turk (derived) + 23.5% Parsi (derived) @ 4.74
14 91.1% Turk (derived) + 8.9% Indian (derived) @ 4.78
15 51.5% Jew_Syria (derived) + 48.5% Tadjik (derived) @ 4.85
16 78.5% Iranian (derived) + 21.5% Romania (derived) @ 4.96
17 56.2% Syrian (derived) + 43.8% Tadjik (derived) @ 4.97
18 82.1% Turk (derived) + 17.9% Makrani (derived) @ 4.98
19 83% Iranian (derived) + 17% French (derived) @ 5.04
20 81.1% Turk (derived) + 18.9% Pashtun (derived) @ 5.06

evon
08-14-2012, 09:18 PM
Mine:

1 North-East-European 50.1
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 34.33
3 North-European-Mesolithic 9.1
4 West-Asian 2.16
5 Indo-Iranian 1.94
6 Samoedic 0.70
7 Indo-Tibetan 0.69
8 Austronesian 0.31
9 Melanesian 0.27
10 Indian 0.23
11 Arctic-Amerind 0.16

Maternal Uncle:

1 North-East-European 47.62
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 34.32
3 North-European-Mesolithic 10.48
4 Indo-Iranian 4.2
5 West-Asian 2.6
6 Melanesian 0.48
7 South-African 0.12
8 Indo-Tibetan 0.11
9 Austronesian 0.07

Maternal grandmother:

1 North-East-European 48.51
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 32.65
3 North-European-Mesolithic 8.09
4 West-Asian 5.66
5 Indo-Iranian 3.46
6 Melanesian 0.71
7 Indo-Tibetan 0.33
8 Samoedic 0.31
9 Arctic-Amerind 0.26
10 Indian 0.01

Paternal aunt:

1 North-East-European 48.27
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 35.84
3 North-European-Mesolithic 8.61
4 West-Asian 3.3
5 Indo-Iranian 2.05
6 Samoedic 1.18
7 Austronesian 0.49
8 Arctic-Amerind 0.2
9 Mesoamerican 0.06


Mine:

1 Norwegian_V (derived) 2.79
2 Swedish (derived) 4.18
3 Welsh (derived) 4.98
4 CEU_V (derived) 5.18
5 CEU (derived) 5.68
6 Swedish_V (derived) 5.81
7 Orcadian (derived) 6.25
8 British (derived) 6.72
9 German-North (derived) 7.15
10 German_V (derived) 7.33
11 Austrian (derived) 8.23
12 German (derived) 8.83
13 Hungarian (derived) 10.18
14 Slovenian (derived) 10.35
15 German-South (derived) 11.27
16 Czech (derived) 11.87
17 Croatian (derived) 12.45
18 Slovakian (derived) 13.34
19 Bosnian (derived) 13.71
20 Croatian_V (derived) 13.83

Maternal uncle:

1 Norwegian_V (derived) 1.07
2 CEU (derived) 5.65
3 Welsh (derived) 5.92
4 Orcadian (derived) 5.97
5 British (derived) 6.64
6 Swedish (derived) 6.76
7 CEU_V (derived) 6.96
8 Swedish_V (derived) 7.44
9 German_V (derived) 8.67
10 German-North (derived) 9.41
11 Austrian (derived) 9.63
12 German (derived) 10.57
13 German-South (derived) 11.12
14 Hungarian (derived) 11.6
15 Slovenian (derived) 12.19
16 Croatian (derived) 13.88
17 French (derived) 13.98
18 Czech (derived) 14.05
19 Serbian (derived) 14.57
20 Bosnian (derived) 14.75

Maternal grandmother:

1 Norwegian_V (derived) 3.49
2 CEU_V (derived) 4.46
3 Welsh (derived) 5.02
4 CEU (derived) 5.43
5 German_V (derived) 5.46
6 Swedish (derived) 5.49
7 British (derived) 6.58
8 Austrian (derived) 6.67
9 German-North (derived) 6.8
10 Orcadian (derived) 6.93
11 Swedish_V (derived) 7.24
12 German (derived) 7.47
13 Hungarian (derived) 8.26
14 Slovenian (derived) 9.05
15 German-South (derived) 9.86
16 Croatian (derived) 10.54
17 Czech (derived) 11.35
18 Bosnian (derived) 11.36
19 Serbian (derived) 11.88
20 Croatian_V (derived) 12.71

Paternal aunt:

1 Norwegian_V (derived) 2.59
2 CEU (derived) 3.54
3 Welsh (derived) 3.99
4 Orcadian (derived) 4.4
5 British (derived) 4.63
6 CEU_V (derived) 5.22
7 Swedish (derived) 6.1
8 German_V (derived) 6.99
9 Austrian (derived) 8.01
10 Swedish_V (derived) 8.08
11 German-North (derived) 8.39
12 German-South (derived) 9.31
13 German (derived) 9.81
14 Hungarian (derived) 10.38
15 Slovenian (derived) 10.99
16 Croatian (derived) 12.59
17 French (derived) 12.62
18 Czech (derived) 13.13
19 Serbian (derived) 13.29
20 Bosnian (derived) 13.59

Mine:

1 93% Swedish_V (derived) + 7% Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic (ancestral) @ 1.53
2 50.6% CEU (derived) + 49.4% Swedish_V (derived) @ 1.64
3 63.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 36.9% Swedish (derived) @ 1.64
4 83.6% Orcadian (derived) + 16.4% Vepsa (derived) @ 1.67
5 83.4% Swedish_V (derived) + 16.6% Basque (derived) @ 1.68
6 53.9% Swedish_V (derived) + 46.1% British (derived) @ 1.72
7 72.7% Swedish_V (derived) + 27.3% French (derived) @ 1.72
8 79.9% Orcadian (derived) + 20.1% Inkeri (derived) @ 1.73
9 94% Swedish (derived) + 6% Gok4 (derived) @ 1.73
10 81.9% Orcadian (derived) + 18.1% Karelian (derived) @ 1.74
11 52% Swedish_V (derived) + 48% Orcadian (derived) @ 1.81
12 80.2% Orcadian (derived) + 19.8% Finnish (derived) @ 1.92
13 81% Swedish_V (derived) + 19% Spaniard (derived) @ 2.02
14 88.5% Welsh (derived) + 11.5% Finnish-North (derived) @ 2.04
15 86.2% Welsh (derived) + 13.8% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.08
16 78.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 21.3% German-North (derived) @ 2.09
17 95.4% Swedish (derived) + 4.6% Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic (ancestral) @ 2.12
18 94.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 5.6% Lithuanian_V (derived) @ 2.13
19 91.8% Norwegian_V (derived) + 8.2% Belarusian_V (derived) @ 2.14
20 89.8% Swedish_V (derived) + 10.2% Sardinian (derived) @ 2.17


Maternal uncle:

1 99.3% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.7% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 0.8
2 99.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.9% Bra2 (derived) @ 0.8
3 99.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.8% Bra1 (derived) @ 0.81
4 99.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.9% Saami (derived) @ 0.83
5 99.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.4% Melanesian (ancestral) @ 0.95
6 99.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.4% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 0.96
7 99.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.5% Kalash (derived) @ 0.97
8 98.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 1.3% Finnish-North (derived) @ 0.98
9 98.8% Norwegian_V (derived) + 1.2% Finnish-South (derived) @ 1.02
10 99.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.4% Gok4 (derived) @ 1.04
11 99.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.3% Kusunda (derived) @ 1.04
12 99.8% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.2% Tibetan (ancestral) @ 1.05
13 99.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.8% Finnish (derived) @ 1.05
14 99.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.3% Australian (derived) @ 1.05
15 99.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.3% Moroccan (derived) @ 1.06
16 99.8% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.2% Oroqen (derived) @ 1.06
17 99.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.3% Mozabite (derived) @ 1.06
18 99.8% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.2% Indian_East (derived) @ 1.06
19 99.8% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.2% Burma (derived) @ 1.06
20 99.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 0.3% Serrano (derived) @ 1.06

Maternal grandmother:

1 79.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 20.8% Bosnian (derived) @ 1.86
2 73.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 26.5% Hungarian (derived) @ 1.94
3 78.3% Norwegian_V (derived) + 21.7% Croatian (derived) @ 1.97
4 87.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.9% Latvian_V (derived) @ 2
5 64% Norwegian_V (derived) + 36% German_V (derived) @ 2
6 72.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 27.9% German (derived) @ 2.11
7 76.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 23.5% Slovenian (derived) @ 2.2
8 95.3% Norwegian_V (derived) + 4.7% Avar (derived) @ 2.21
9 83.3% British (derived) + 16.7% Vepsa (derived) @ 2.28
10 70.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 29.6% Austrian (derived) @ 2.28
11 81.5% British (derived) + 18.5% Karelian (derived) @ 2.3
12 97.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 2.6% West-Asian (ancestral) @ 2.31
13 95.3% Norwegian_V (derived) + 4.7% Tabassaran (derived) @ 2.33
14 82.9% Norwegian_V (derived) + 17.1% Croatian_V (derived) @ 2.35
15 95.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 4.5% Lak (derived) @ 2.36
16 95.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 4.4% Lezgin (derived) @ 2.37
17 86.3% CEU (derived) + 13.7% Vepsa (derived) @ 2.39
18 84.8% CEU (derived) + 15.2% Karelian (derived) @ 2.39
19 79.7% British (derived) + 20.3% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.4
20 88.8% Welsh (derived) + 11.2% Finnish-North (derived) @ 2.41

Paternal aunt:

1 85.5% British (derived) + 14.5% Finnish (derived) @ 1.47
2 86.9% British (derived) + 13.1% Karelian (derived) @ 1.54
3 85.6% British (derived) + 14.4% Inkeri (derived) @ 1.57
4 87.3% British (derived) + 12.7% Finnish-South (derived) @ 1.58
5 88.2% British (derived) + 11.8% Vepsa (derived) @ 1.61
6 86.4% Orcadian (derived) + 13.6% Inkeri (derived) @ 1.64
7 87.7% Orcadian (derived) + 12.3% Karelian (derived) @ 1.65
8 61.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 38.8% CEU (derived) @ 1.67
9 86.4% Orcadian (derived) + 13.6% Finnish (derived) @ 1.68
10 88.9% Orcadian (derived) + 11.1% Vepsa (derived) @ 1.68
11 71.8% CEU (derived) + 28.2% Swedish_V (derived) @ 1.69
12 89.3% CEU (derived) + 10.7% Finnish (derived) @ 1.71
13 89.3% CEU (derived) + 10.7% Inkeri (derived) @ 1.74
14 90.4% CEU (derived) + 9.6% Karelian (derived) @ 1.76
15 69.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 30.6% British (derived) @ 1.77
16 90.8% CEU (derived) + 9.2% Finnish-South (derived) @ 1.79
17 96.5% Welsh (derived) + 3.5% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 1.79
18 91.5% CEU (derived) + 8.5% Vepsa (derived) @ 1.8
19 95.5% Welsh (derived) + 4.5% Saami (derived) @ 1.8
20 88.3% Orcadian (derived) + 11.7% Finnish-South (derived) @ 1.86

Day Tripper
08-15-2012, 12:37 AM
For the World-22, I get:

Admixture results, sorted:


# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 47.08
2 North_and_East_European 40.7
3 Caucaus_Parsia 8.41
4 Middle_East 2.15
5 Indian 1.25
6 Mesoamerican 0.28
7 Melanesian 0.13

Single population sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 German_V 1.47
2 CEU_V 1.55
3 CEU 2.38
4 Austrian 2.4
5 Welsh 2.75
6 Slovenian 3.01
7 British 3.4
8 Orcadian 3.74
9 Hungarian 4.24
10 Norwegian_V 4.25
11 German-North 4.91
12 Czech 5.17
13 Croatian 5.39
14 German 6.17
15 Swedish 6.48
16 Slovakian 6.94
17 German-South 6.98
18 Bosnian 7.14
19 Croatian_V 8.16
20 Swedish_V 9.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67% German_V + 33% Welsh @ 0.66
2 64.8% German_V + 35.2% CEU @ 0.83
3 71.1% British + 28.9% Croatian_V @ 0.83
4 53.3% Slovenian + 46.7% British @ 0.87
5 56.5% CEU + 43.5% Slovenian @ 0.9
6 76.1% German_V + 23.9% Orcadian @ 0.93
7 61.6% Welsh + 38.4% Hungarian @ 0.94
8 78.7% CEU + 21.3% Croatian_V @ 0.94
9 67.3% Welsh + 32.7% Croatian @ 0.95
10 72.5% Swedish_V + 27.5% Kosovar @ 0.95
11 84.6% Norwegian_V + 15.4% Italian-North @ 0.97
12 75.2% German_V + 24.8% British @ 1.01
13 73.4% Welsh + 26.6% Bosnian @ 1.01
14 52.5% German_V + 47.5% CEU_V @ 1.04
15 80.1% Norwegian_V + 19.9% Italian_North @ 1.04
16 56.1% Slovenian + 43.9% Orcadian @ 1.06
17 62.6% Norwegian_V + 37.4% German-South @ 1.06
18 78% Norwegian_V + 22% Provancal @ 1.06
19 86% CEU + 14% Latvian_V @ 1.07
20 80.2% British + 19.8% Latvian_V @ 1.09

Calamus
08-16-2012, 08:49 PM
Admixture results (MDLP_World22) for me and my parents:

me:
# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 53.18
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 30.58
3 North-European-Mesolithic 7.04
4 West-Asian 4.33
5 Indo-Iranian 1.88
6 Samoedic 1.09
7 Paleo-Siberian 0.89
8 Arctic-Amerind 0.4
9 Melanesian 0.31
10 Indian 0.24
11 Austronesian 0.06

my dad:
# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 52.94
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 30.74
3 North-European-Mesolithic 7.55
4 West-Asian 5.05
5 Samoedic 2.19
6 Indo-Iranian 0.61
7 Austronesian 0.51
8 Melanesian 0.24
9 Paleo-Siberian 0.15

my mom:
# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 54.8
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 27.97
3 North-European-Mesolithic 7.62
4 West-Asian 4.02
5 Indo-Iranian 2.42
6 Samoedic 1.96
7 Arctic-Amerind 0.51
8 South-African 0.49
9 North-Amerind 0.18
10 Melanesian 0.03

J Man
08-17-2012, 03:31 PM
I find it very interesting that Vadim has picked out a Mesolithic/Saami type component in this analysis. According to him the North-European-Mesolithic component reaches it's very highest frequencies in the two Mesolithic samples from La Brana and in the modern day Saami people. Finns also have a high percentage of it.

DMXX
08-17-2012, 03:46 PM
I find it very interesting that Vadim has picked out a Mesolithic/Saami type component in this analysis. According to him the North-European-Mesolithic component reaches it's very highest frequencies in the two Mesolithic samples from La Brana and in the modern day Saami people. Finns also have a high percentage of it.

Is there any information on which other populations have high frequencies of the NEM component? IIRC, the European Neolithic arrived last around the Baltic. I would presume it has a decent standing among them also.

The specificity of his autosomal components are impressive, but I'd really like to know what the source samples or modal population(s) are for the Indo-Iranian cluster.

Verj-nu-armu
08-17-2012, 04:43 PM
Is there any information on which other populations have high frequencies of the NEM component? IIRC, the European Neolithic arrived last around the Baltic. I would presume it has a decent standing among them also.


It doesn't. Lithuanians have 1-2% of the NEM component. Latvians 1-4%. Estonians 7%

J Man
08-17-2012, 05:07 PM
Yes Verj-nu-armu is correct. The Latvians and Lithuanians have very low scores for the NEM component. I do not know why this is but it could be because they come from a very old homogenous gene pool where some components have been lost? It seems a bit strange to me that they have so little of this component. The higher level in Estonians does make sense though.

From what I have seen non-Finnish/Saami Scandinavians score around 10% on average of the NEM component. They are the next highest compared to the Saami and Finns.

DMXX
08-17-2012, 08:19 PM
What is the NEM component's frequency outside of Scandinavia, out of interest? Is any of this information displayed anywhere?

I checked the MDLP blog (http://magnusducatus.blogspot.com/) but the last update was months ago.

Verj-nu-armu
08-17-2012, 08:36 PM
Check the column F

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqn7iMc2P-yQdEItR3hlYzVVSE5yQjBkUzBzT1E5Ymc#gid=0

DMXX
08-17-2012, 09:52 PM
Check the column F

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqn7iMc2P-yQdEItR3hlYzVVSE5yQjBkUzBzT1E5Ymc#gid=0

The Indo-Iranian component here is greatest in the Kalash (~84%) by an extremely large margin, of the order of approx. 75%. Those populations with >5% tend to sit around South-Central Asia.

Based on this, the Indo-Iranian component doesn't appear to be any more informative than the "Kalash" component (which it basically is) seen in other projects. Dienekes' dissection of the Kalash found them to be a mixed West-South Asian population with a slither of North European. (http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/10/origin-of-kalash-inferred-with.html)

Although, to be fair, it is as specific to modern Indo-Iranian speakers as one can get on an auDNA component breakdown given others overlap greatly with neighbouring regional phenomena (i.e. West Asian or NE European components).

ZephyrousMandaru
08-23-2012, 07:33 AM
MDLP World

Population
Caucaus_Parsia 39.87%
Middle_East 31.56%
Indian 1.92%
South_and_West_European 25.76%
Melanesian 0.60%
Sub_Saharian -
North_and_East_European -
Arctic_Amerind -
East_Asian -
Paleo_African 0.20%
Mesoamerican -
North_Asian 0.08%

MDLP World-22

Population
Pygmyn -
West-Asian 44.68%
North-European-Mesolithic -
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican -
Arctic-Amerind -
South-America_Amerind -
Indian 1.41%
North-Siberean 0.49%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 24.74%
Samoedic -
Indo-Iranian 0.91%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 1.42%
South-African 0.27%
North-Amerind -
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 25.62%
Melanesian 0.45%
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian -



Does anyone know what reference populations, are used for these calculators?

Seabass
08-23-2012, 08:04 AM
World 22

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 33.22
2 North-East-European 30.12
3 West-Asian 18.1
4 Near_East 13.81
5 North-European-Mesolithic 1.91
6 Sub-Saharian 1
7 Indian 0.95
8 Samoedic 0.27
9 Indo-Iranian 0.26
10 Indo-Tibetan 0.11
11 Pygmy 0.11
12 Melanesian 0.1
13 South-African 0.03
14 Austronesian 0.02


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Greek_Cretan (derived) + 40.8% German-North (derived) @ 1.6
2 56.5% German_V (derived) + 43.5% Cypriot (derived) @ 1.62
3 56.5% German_V (derived) + 43.5% Jew_Syria (derived) @ 1.66
4 56.5% Austrian (derived) + 43.5% Cypriot (derived) @ 1.68
5 81.6% Greek_South (derived) + 18.4% German (derived) @ 1.7
6 84% Greek_South (derived) + 16% Swedish_V (derived) @ 1.78
7 51.8% German-North (derived) + 48.2% Cypriot (derived) @ 1.8
8 54.8% CEU_V (derived) + 45.2% Cypriot (derived) @ 1.8
9 54.4% Greek_Cretan (derived) + 45.6% Hungarian (derived) @ 1.81
10 89.4% Greek_South (derived) + 10.6% Estonian (derived) @ 1.83
11 66.8% German-South (derived) + 33.2% Syrian (derived) @ 1.85
12 83% Greek_Center (derived) + 17% Estonian (derived) @ 1.86
13 83.2% Greek_South (derived) + 16.8% Swedish (derived) @ 1.87
14 82.7% Greek_South (derived) + 17.3% German-North (derived) @ 1.88
15 54.8% CEU_V (derived) + 45.2% Jew_Syria (derived) @ 1.9
16 87.7% Greek_South (derived) + 12.3% Russian_North (derived) @ 1.92
17 87.9% Greek_South (derived) + 12.1% Inkeri (derived) @ 1.92
18 82.2% Greek_South (derived) + 17.8% Croatian_V (derived) @ 1.94
19 79.4% Italian-Center (derived) + 20.6% Estonian (derived) @ 1.95
20 76.3% Italian-Center (derived) + 23.7% Moldavian (derived) @ 1.95

In bold are the ones I either like, find realistic, or just meaningful.

The original World results.


# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 41.13
2 North_and_East_European 23.14
3 Caucaus_Parsia 17.09
4 Middle_East 16.22
5 Sub_Saharian 1.25
6 Indian 1.12
7 Melanesian 0.06


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.7% CEU + 45.3% Jew_Syria @ 0.89
2 91.4% Gagauz + 8.6% Egyptian @ 0.96
3 53.5% Welsh + 46.5% Jew_Syria @ 0.99
4 76.4% Montenegrin + 23.6% Syrian @ 1
5 65.3% German-South + 34.7% Lebanese @ 1.19
6 90.3% Gagauz + 9.7% Palestinian @ 1.2
7 89.9% Gagauz + 10.1% Jordanian @ 1.2
8 83.4% Bulgarian + 16.6% Syrian @ 1.21
9 58.8% Greek_Cretan + 41.2% Slovakian @ 1.24
10 57.6% Greek_Cretan + 42.4% Czech @ 1.26
11 93.2% Gagauz + 6.8% Bedouin @ 1.29
12 68.6% Serbian + 31.4% Jew_Syria @ 1.3
13 55.9% Slovenian + 44.1% Cypriot @ 1.31
14 54.7% British + 45.3% Jew_Syria @ 1.32
15 75.2% Montenegrin + 24.8% Lebanese @ 1.35
16 63% Greek_Cretan + 37% Swedish_V @ 1.36
17 78.3% Macedonian + 21.7% Lebanese @ 1.38
18 92.1% Gagauz + 7.9% Yemen @ 1.38
19 53.6% Orcadian + 46.4% Jew_Syria @ 1.4
20 66.8% German-South + 33.2% Syrian @ 1.4

J Man
08-23-2012, 01:20 PM
Vadim has a number of references but I do not know where he got them from.

DMXX
08-23-2012, 05:10 PM
World 22


Very interesting results Seabass. I'd imagine your overall position on PCA auDNA plots is somewhere around Central Europe, but if your ancestry was Central European, I'd expect you to be predominantly Hungarian, Polish or (if they're in the datasets) Slovakian... Do you have known Jewish heritage?

Seabass
08-24-2012, 12:50 AM
Very interesting results Seabass. I'd imagine your overall position on PCA auDNA plots is somewhere around Central Europe, but if your ancestry was Central European, I'd expect you to be predominantly Hungarian, Polish or (if they're in the datasets) Slovakian... Do you have known Jewish heritage?

Cheers Humata! Actually in World and West-Eurasian plots I tend to plot with Central Italians/Tuscans. In European plots I tend to plot more with Northern Italians. I should post some maps Doug gave me in a more relevant thread. Yep, part Jewish from Turkey.

IsItEckaslike
08-24-2012, 11:09 AM
My admixture results (MDLP_World22):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 48.57
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 33.3
3 West-Asian 7.34
4 North-European-Mesolithic 5.75
5 Indo-Iranian 2.16
6 Near_East 1.43
7 Samoedic 1
8 Austronesian 0.22
9 Melanesian 0.16
10 Mesoamerican 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_V (derived) 2.63
2 CEU_V (derived) 2.93
3 Austrian (derived) 4.1
4 Welsh (derived) 4.75
5 CEU (derived) 5.14
6 Norwegian_V (derived) 5.92
7 Hungarian (derived) 5.96
8 British (derived) 6.16
9 German-North (derived) 6.28
10 Swedish (derived) 6.46
11 German (derived) 6.65
12 Orcadian (derived) 7.23
13 Slovenian (derived) 7.25
14 German-South (derived) 7.89
15 Croatian (derived) 8.05
16 Bosnian (derived) 8.78
17 Swedish_V (derived) 9.1
18 Serbian (derived) 9.11
19 Czech (derived) 10.34
20 Croatian_V (derived) 11.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.7% CEU (derived) + 21.3% Latvian_V (derived) @ 1.41
2 72.4% German_V (derived) + 27.6% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 1.46
3 97.9% German_V (derived) + 2.1% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 1.51
4 95.7% CEU_V (derived) + 4.3% Ossetian (derived) @ 1.51
5 96.3% CEU_V (derived) + 3.7% Abhkasian (derived) @ 1.54
6 95.5% CEU_V (derived) + 4.5% Lak (derived) @ 1.54
7 95.4% CEU_V (derived) + 4.6% Chechen (derived) @ 1.55
8 95.5% CEU_V (derived) + 4.5% NorthOssetian (derived) @ 1.56
9 94.9% CEU_V (derived) + 5.1% Cirkassian (derived) @ 1.56
10 95.1% CEU_V (derived) + 4.9% Balkarian (derived) @ 1.57
11 97.6% German_V (derived) + 2.4% Bra1 (derived) @ 1.57
12 97.6% German_V (derived) + 2.4% Bra2 (derived) @ 1.57
13 95.6% CEU_V (derived) + 4.4% Lezgin (derived) @ 1.58
14 95.4% CEU_V (derived) + 4.6% Tabassaran (derived) @ 1.58
15 95.3% CEU_V (derived) + 4.7% Kumyk (derived) @ 1.59
16 96.4% CEU_V (derived) + 3.6% Georgian_Imereti (derived) @ 1.59
17 95.3% CEU_V (derived) + 4.7% Kabardinian (derived) @ 1.59
18 95.6% CEU_V (derived) + 4.4% Georgian (derived) @ 1.6
19 97.4% German_V (derived) + 2.6% Saami (derived) @ 1.61
20 95.3% CEU_V (derived) + 4.7% Adygei (derived) @ 1.62

IsItEckaslike
08-24-2012, 11:14 AM
Can anyone explain what population "CEU_V" represents please?

J Man
08-24-2012, 01:21 PM
The MDLP version of Oracle seems to work very well for all of my relatives. It sorts out my father's Italian and Finnish ancestry perfectly. I find my own below to be quite interesting as well in that Norwegian seems to represent my northern European ancestry that I inherited most from my Irish/British mother with an eastern pull due to my Finnish paternal grandmother. The Jewish part which represents East Mediterranean ancestry I believe clearly comes from my paternal grandfather who is 100% Italian (Calabria region).


Me:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 41.59
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 31.86
3 North-European-Mesolithic 10.04
4 West-Asian 7.66
5 Near_East 3.74
6 Indo-Iranian 2.36
7 Samoedic 1.14
8 Melanesian 0.74
9 North-Amerind 0.61
10 South-African 0.25
11 South-America_Amerind 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Norwegian_V (derived) 8.41
2 CEU (derived) 8.56
3 German-South (derived) 8.93
4 British (derived) 9.66
5 German_V (derived) 9.69
6 CEU_V (derived) 9.89
7 Serbian (derived) 10.47
8 Orcadian (derived) 10.49
9 Welsh (derived) 10.49
10 Austrian (derived) 10.63
11 Montenegrin (derived) 11.36
12 Hungarian (derived) 11.37
13 Macedonian (derived) 11.77
14 German (derived) 11.81
15 Swiss (derived) 11.97
16 Swedish (derived) 12.01
17 French (derived) 12.33
18 Bosnian (derived) 12.57
19 German-North (derived) 12.95
20 Croatian (derived) 12.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.3% Jew-Iran (derived) @ 2.23
2 87.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.6% Jew_Kurd (derived) @ 2.25
3 87.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.5% Jew-Iraqi (derived) @ 2.27
4 86.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.4% Iraqi (derived) @ 2.28
5 87% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13% Jew_Georgia (derived) @ 2.28
6 87.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.5% Jew_Iraqi (derived) @ 2.3
7 87.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.9% Jew-Uzbekistan (derived) @ 2.34
8 87.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.6% Jew_Tat (derived) @ 2.35
9 86.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.6% Syrian (derived) @ 2.38
10 64.2% Provancestralal (derived) + 35.8% Finnish (derived) @ 2.41
11 87.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.6% Jew_Azerbaijan (derived) @ 2.43
12 86.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.4% Druze (derived) @ 2.48
13 86.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.9% Lebanese (derived) @ 2.49
14 87.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.9% Iranian (derived) @ 2.57
15 66.9% Provancestralal (derived) + 33.1% Karelian (derived) @ 2.6
16 84.9% Norwegian_V (derived) + 15.1% Turk (derived) @ 2.67
17 66.9% Provancestralal (derived) + 33.1% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.68
18 52.9% Kosovar (derived) + 47.1% Finnish (derived) @ 2.69
19 64.4% Provancestralal (derived) + 35.6% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.7
20 71.4% Swiss (derived) + 28.6% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.71


Father:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 34.72
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 28.8
3 West-Asian 11.33
4 North-European-Mesolithic 11.32
5 Near_East 9.74
6 North-Siberean 0.95
7 Samoedic 0.95
8 Indian 0.93
9 Arctic-Amerind 0.49
10 South-African 0.26
11 Indo-Iranian 0.18
12 Melanesian 0.17
13 Paleo-Siberian 0.12
14 South-America_Amerind 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (derived) 11.88
2 Macedonian (derived) 12.11
3 Romania (derived) 12.32
4 Gagauz (derived) 12.42
5 Montenegrin (derived) 13.02
6 Serbian (derived) 13.68
7 Swiss (derived) 13.84
8 German-South (derived) 14.84
9 Italian_North (derived) 14.86
10 Ashkenazim_V (derived) 15.38
11 Provancestralal (derived) 15.91
12 Bosnian (derived) 16.92
13 French (derived) 16.96
14 CEU (derived) 17.26
15 German_V (derived) 17.41
16 Greek_South (derived) 17.5
17 Norwegian_V (derived) 17.66
18 Hungarian (derived) 17.66
19 Greek_North (derived) 17.74
20 Austrian (derived) 18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.7% Italian-South (derived) + 45.3% Finnish (derived) @ 1.91
2 56.4% Italian-Center (derived) + 43.6% Finnish (derived) @ 2
3 85.3% Bulgarian (derived) + 14.7% Saami (derived) @ 2.23
4 53.1% Sicilian (derived) + 46.9% Finnish (derived) @ 2.33
5 88.4% Macedonian (derived) + 11.6% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 2.37
6 55% Italian-South (derived) + 45% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.42
7 58.2% Italian-Center (derived) + 41.8% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.51
8 53.5% Sicilian (derived) + 46.5% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.54
9 88.7% Bulgarian (derived) + 11.3% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 2.57
10 86.6% Macedonian (derived) + 13.4% Bra2 (derived) @ 2.59
11 57.2% Italian-South (derived) + 42.8% Karelian (derived) @ 2.64
12 56.8% Italian-Center (derived) + 43.2% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.67
13 58.9% Italian-Center (derived) + 41.1% Karelian (derived) @ 2.7
14 85.2% Macedonian (derived) + 14.8% Saami (derived) @ 2.9
15 60.3% Greek_Center (derived) + 39.7% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.91
16 56.5% Italian-South (derived) + 43.5% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.96
17 64.7% Greek_South (derived) + 35.3% Finnish-South (derived) @ 3.08
18 55.7% Sicilian (derived) + 44.3% Karelian (derived) @ 3.1
19 86.9% Macedonian (derived) + 13.1% Bra1 (derived) @ 3.13
20 86.9% Bulgarian (derived) + 13.1% Bra2 (derived) @ 3.14


Mother:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 49.27
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 35.08
3 West-Asian 6.33
4 North-European-Mesolithic 4.51
5 Indo-Iranian 2.57
6 North-Amerind 0.82
7 Samoedic 0.8
8 Austronesian 0.39
9 South-African 0.06
10 Arctic-Amerind 0.06
11 Mesoamerican 0.05
12 Melanesian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Welsh (derived) 2.88
2 CEU_V (derived) 2.92
3 German_V (derived) 3.48
4 CEU (derived) 4.23
5 Austrian (derived) 4.39
6 British (derived) 4.83
7 Orcadian (derived) 5.78
8 Norwegian_V (derived) 6.03
9 German-North (derived) 6.45
10 Swedish (derived) 6.51
11 Hungarian (derived) 7.14
12 Slovenian (derived) 7.86
13 German (derived) 7.93
14 German-South (derived) 7.93
15 Croatian (derived) 9.2
16 Swedish_V (derived) 9.48
17 Bosnian (derived) 10.18
18 Serbian (derived) 10.38
19 Czech (derived) 10.63
20 Slovakian (derived) 12.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81% British (derived) + 19% Latvian_V (derived) @ 1.51
2 80.4% British (derived) + 19.6% Ukrainian_V (derived) @ 1.55
3 80.9% British (derived) + 19.1% Ukrainian-Center (derived) @ 1.57
4 81.4% British (derived) + 18.6% Mordovian_V (derived) @ 1.58
5 56.4% Welsh (derived) + 43.6% German_V (derived) @ 1.61
6 79.4% British (derived) + 20.6% Ukrainian-West (derived) @ 1.62
7 84.1% British (derived) + 15.9% Mordovian (derived) @ 1.68
8 83.7% British (derived) + 16.3% Russian_South (derived) @ 1.69
9 96% Welsh (derived) + 4% Avar (derived) @ 1.69
10 83.2% British (derived) + 16.8% Ukrainian-East (derived) @ 1.71
11 63.2% British (derived) + 36.8% German (derived) @ 1.73
12 64.6% German_V (derived) + 35.4% Orcadian (derived) @ 1.74
13 97.7% Welsh (derived) + 2.3% West-Asian (ancestral) @ 1.76
14 73.3% British (derived) + 26.7% Slovakian (derived) @ 1.79
15 96% Welsh (derived) + 4% Tabassaran (derived) @ 1.79
16 96.1% Welsh (derived) + 3.9% Lak (derived) @ 1.8
17 83.6% British (derived) + 16.4% Ukrainian (derived) @ 1.82
18 96.1% Welsh (derived) + 3.9% Lezgin (derived) @ 1.84
19 60.3% German_V (derived) + 39.7% British (derived) @ 1.87
20 63.2% British (derived) + 36.8% Slovenian (derived) @ 1.87

J Man
08-24-2012, 01:23 PM
Paternal Grandfather:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 36.06
2 West-Asian 25.08
3 Near_East 21.25
4 North-East-European 15.89
5 North-European-Mesolithic 1.04
6 Pygmy 0.41
7 Melanesian 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Cretan (derived) 3.86
2 Sicilian (derived) 5.08
3 Greek_East (derived) 5.51
4 Italian-South (derived) 5.8
5 Jew_Romania (derived) 6.29
6 Italian-Center (derived) 6.62
7 Greek_Center (derived) 7.34
8 Jew_Francestrale (derived) 7.99
9 Jew_Italia (derived) 8.25
10 Ashkenazim (derived) 8.95
11 Greek_South (derived) 10.32
12 Greek_North (derived) 10.53
13 Sephardim (derived) 10.6
14 Jew_Morocco (derived) 11.36
15 Jew_Algeria (derived) 12.33
16 Ashkenazim_V (derived) 12.65
17 Greek_Azov (derived) 12.85
18 Jew_Tunisia (derived) 13.33
19 Cypriot (derived) 13.83
20 Jew_Syria (derived) 14.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.9% Cypriot (derived) + 30.1% German-South (derived) @ 1.32
2 65.8% Cypriot (derived) + 34.2% Swiss (derived) @ 1.35
3 63.1% Cypriot (derived) + 36.9% Italian_North (derived) @ 1.42
4 58.5% Corsican (derived) + 41.5% Jew-Iraqi (derived) @ 1.45
5 54.8% Italian-North (derived) + 45.2% Druze (derived) @ 1.49
6 77% Italian-Center (derived) + 23% Druze (derived) @ 1.51
7 60.1% Corsican (derived) + 39.9% Jew-Iran (derived) @ 1.55
8 73.2% Greek_East (derived) + 26.8% Jew_Syria (derived) @ 1.56
9 66.8% Greek_Center (derived) + 33.2% Jew_Syria (derived) @ 1.62
10 73.3% Cypriot (derived) + 26.7% British (derived) @ 1.63
11 53.5% Jew_Georgia (derived) + 46.5% Spaniard (derived) @ 1.66
12 79.6% Italian-Center (derived) + 20.4% Jew_Georgia (derived) @ 1.68
13 76% Italian-Center (derived) + 24% Lebanese (derived) @ 1.7
14 55.7% Corsican (derived) + 44.3% Jew_Georgia (derived) @ 1.71
15 87.8% Greek_Cretan (derived) + 12.2% Portugese (derived) @ 1.71
16 74% Cypriot (derived) + 26% Orcadian (derived) @ 1.71
17 81.4% Italian-Center (derived) + 18.6% Jew-Iraqi (derived) @ 1.72
18 61.9% Jew_Syria (derived) + 38.1% Italian_North (derived) @ 1.73
19 78.2% Italian-Center (derived) + 21.8% Syrian (derived) @ 1.74
20 73.2% Cypriot (derived) + 26.8% CEU (derived) @ 1.75

MJost
08-24-2012, 06:15 PM
Kit M162635
K = 20
MinCount = 5

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 50.52
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 35.42
3 West-Asian 5.74
4 North-European-Mesolithic 4.76
5 Indo-Iranian 1.22
6 Samoedic 0.8
7 Near_East 0.53
8 Indo-Tibetan 0.36
9 South-African 0.29
10 Paleo-Siberian 0.14
11 South-America_Amerind 0.09
12 Arctic-Amerind 0.08
13 Mesoamerican 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 CEU_V (derived) 2.19
2 Welsh (derived) 3.12
3 German_V (derived) 3.37
4 Austrian (derived) 4.3
5 CEU (derived) 4.71
6 British (derived) 5.32
7 German-North (derived) 5.67
8 Swedish (derived) 5.71
9 Orcadian (derived) 6.14
10 Norwegian_V (derived) 6.29
11 Hungarian (derived) 7.02
12 Slovenian (derived) 7.38
13 German (derived) 7.6
14 German-South (derived) 8.43
15 Swedish_V (derived) 8.93
16 Croatian (derived) 8.97
17 Czech (derived) 9.97
18 Bosnian (derived) 10.23
19 Serbian (derived) 10.83
20 Slovakian (derived) 11.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93% German-North (derived) + 7% Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic (ancestral) @ 1.22
2 78.6% British (derived) + 21.4% Ukrainian-Center (derived) @ 1.38
3 51.7% British (derived) + 48.3% German-North (derived) @ 1.44
4 81.5% British (derived) + 18.5% Russian_South (derived) @ 1.46
5 81% British (derived) + 19% Ukrainian-East (derived) @ 1.46
6 81.3% British (derived) + 18.7% Ukrainian (derived) @ 1.49
7 80.6% British (derived) + 19.4% Polish_V (derived) @ 1.51
8 76.9% British (derived) + 23.1% Ukrainian-West (derived) @ 1.52
9 69.6% British (derived) + 30.4% Slovakian (derived) @ 1.53
10 78.2% British (derived) + 21.8% Ukrainian_V (derived) @ 1.53
11 79.3% British (derived) + 20.7% Belarusian_V (derived) @ 1.54
12 81.1% British (derived) + 18.9% Russian_cossack (derived) @ 1.62
13 78% CEU_V (derived) + 22% British (derived) @ 1.66
14 70.7% German-North (derived) + 29.3% French (derived) @ 1.66
15 66% British (derived) + 34% Czech (derived) @ 1.66
16 98.2% CEU_V (derived) + 1.8% Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic (ancestral) @ 1.71
17 55.2% CEU (derived) + 44.8% German-North (derived) @ 1.71
18 83.3% German-North (derived) + 16.7% Basque (derived) @ 1.72
19 66.2% CEU_V (derived) + 33.8% Welsh (derived) @ 1.74
20 52.7% Welsh (derived) + 47.3% German_V (derived) @ 1.75

pconroy
09-17-2012, 05:39 PM
Here are my results - all 8 Great-Grandparents are Irish:


Kit M011125
K = 20
MinCount = 5

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 48.89
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 33.55
3 West-Asian 7.29
4 North-European-Mesolithic 6.41
5 Indo-Iranian 2.74
6 Indian 0.55
7 South-America_Amerind 0.27
8 South-African 0.14
9 Indo-Tibetan 0.09
10 Pygmy 0.04
11 Near_East 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 CEU_V (derived) 3.39
2 German_V (derived) 3.67
3 Welsh (derived) 4.41
4 CEU (derived) 4.92
5 Austrian (derived) 5.16
6 Norwegian_V (derived) 5.23
7 British (derived) 5.92
8 Swedish (derived) 6.11
9 German-North (derived) 6.34
10 Orcadian (derived) 6.84
11 Hungarian (derived) 7.03
12 German (derived) 7.26
13 Slovenian (derived) 7.96
14 Swedish_V (derived) 8.61
15 German-South (derived) 8.61
16 Croatian (derived) 9.19
17 Bosnian (derived) 9.99
18 Serbian (derived) 10.43
19 Czech (derived) 10.76
20 Croatian_V (derived) 12.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61% German_V (derived) + 39% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 1.98
2 81% CEU (derived) + 19% Latvian_V (derived) @ 2.19
3 61.4% CEU (derived) + 38.6% German (derived) @ 2.38
4 55.9% British (derived) + 44.1% German (derived) @ 2.41
5 81.5% CEU (derived) + 18.5% Ukrainian-Center (derived) @ 2.43
6 81.1% CEU (derived) + 18.9% Ukrainian_V (derived) @ 2.47
7 77.7% British (derived) + 22.3% Latvian_V (derived) @ 2.5
8 84.6% CEU (derived) + 15.4% Mordovian (derived) @ 2.51
9 93.7% Welsh (derived) + 6.3% Avar (derived) @ 2.52
10 96% CEU_V (derived) + 4% Lak (derived) @ 2.58
11 96% CEU_V (derived) + 4% Tabassaran (derived) @ 2.6
12 82.3% CEU (derived) + 17.7% Mordovian_V (derived) @ 2.6
13 96.3% CEU_V (derived) + 3.7% Pashtun (derived) @ 2.6
14 84% CEU (derived) + 16% Ukrainian-East (derived) @ 2.6
15 93.6% Welsh (derived) + 6.4% Tabassaran (derived) @ 2.6
16 96.3% CEU_V (derived) + 3.7% Ossetian (derived) @ 2.61
17 97.8% CEU_V (derived) + 2.2% West-Asian (ancestral) @ 2.63
18 68.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 31.9% Bosnian (derived) @ 2.63
19 96.2% CEU_V (derived) + 3.8% Avar (derived) @ 2.63
20 81.4% British (derived) + 18.6% Mordovian (derived) @ 2.63

Little bit
09-17-2012, 10:33 PM
Here are my results - so-called Colonial American w/known Irish, German, and English great-grandparents and more distant Welsh:

Kit M054852
K = 20
MinCount = 2

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 45.62
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 36.89
3 West-Asian 6.99
4 North-European-Mesolithic 5.81
5 Samoedic 2.15
6 Indo-Iranian 1.82
7 Near_East 0.48
8 South-African 0.2
9 Mesoamerican 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 CEU (derived) 2.85
2 British (derived) 3.43
3 Welsh (derived) 4.85
4 Orcadian (derived) 5.05
5 German-South (derived) 5.27
6 CEU_V (derived) 5.97
7 German_V (derived) 6.05
8 Norwegian_V (derived) 6.54
9 Austrian (derived) 7.07
10 French (derived) 9.4
11 Swedish (derived) 9.44
12 Hungarian (derived) 9.62
13 German-North (derived) 10.02
14 Serbian (derived) 10.06
15 German (derived) 10.67
16 Slovenian (derived) 11.04
17 Montenegrin (derived) 11.23
18 Swiss (derived) 11.36
19 Croatian (derived) 11.43
20 Bosnian (derived) 11.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.1% CEU (derived) + 3.9% Avar (derived) @ 1.8
2 97.8% CEU (derived) + 2.2% West-Asian (ancestral) @ 1.83
3 96.1% CEU (derived) + 3.9% Lezgin (derived) @ 1.84
4 96.1% CEU (derived) + 3.9% Lak (derived) @ 1.84
5 96% CEU (derived) + 4% Chechen (derived) @ 1.84
6 95.8% CEU (derived) + 4.2% Adygei (derived) @ 1.85
7 96% CEU (derived) + 4% Tabassaran (derived) @ 1.86
8 96.1% CEU (derived) + 3.9% NorthOssetian (derived) @ 1.87
9 95.7% CEU (derived) + 4.3% Balkarian (derived) @ 1.87
10 95.9% CEU (derived) + 4.1% Kumyk (derived) @ 1.91
11 96.2% CEU (derived) + 3.8% Georgian (derived) @ 1.91
12 96.8% CEU (derived) + 3.2% Abhkasian (derived) @ 1.91
13 96.3% CEU (derived) + 3.7% Ossetian (derived) @ 1.92
14 95.9% CEU (derived) + 4.1% Kabardinian (derived) @ 1.92
15 95.6% CEU (derived) + 4.4% Cirkassian (derived) @ 1.93
16 96.9% CEU (derived) + 3.1% Georgian_Imereti (derived) @ 1.96
17 93.3% British (derived) + 6.7% Udmurd (derived) @ 2.01
18 96.8% CEU (derived) + 3.2% Georgian_Laz (derived) @ 2.01
19 95.3% CEU (derived) + 4.7% Nogai (derived) @ 2.03
20 96.5% CEU (derived) + 3.5% Azeri (derived) @ 2.06

My Polish mother-in-law has always somewhat atypical Polish results but I think MDLP is on to something with "Sorb"

Kit M061234
K = 20
MinCount = 2

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 61.68
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 24.57
3 West-Asian 4.88
4 North-European-Mesolithic 4.16
5 Indo-Iranian 1.61
6 Samoedic 1.07
7 South-America_Amerind 0.61
8 Melanesian 0.58
9 Paleo-Siberian 0.44
10 Near_East 0.34
11 Arctic-Amerind 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Slovakian (derived) 4.54
2 Ukrainian-West (derived) 5.52
3 Sorb (derived) 5.72
4 Czech (derived) 6.03
5 Belarusian_V (derived) 6.18
6 Ukrainian-Center (derived) 6.31
7 Ukrainian_V (derived) 6.31
8 Polish_V (derived) 7.84
9 German-North (derived) 8.39
10 Croatian_V (derived) 8.47
11 Russian_cossack (derived) 8.5
12 Ukrainian-East (derived) 8.57
13 German (derived) 8.66
14 Russian_V (derived) 8.77
15 Ukrainian (derived) 9.03
16 Mordovian_V (derived) 9.08
17 Russian_South (derived) 9.15
18 Slovenian (derived) 9.34
19 Polish (derived) 9.75
20 Swedish_V (derived) 10.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.1% German-North (derived) + 42.9% Russian_Center (derived) @ 1.34
2 63.1% Russian_Center (derived) + 36.9% British (derived) @ 1.39
3 63.2% German-North (derived) + 36.8% Russian (derived) @ 1.43
4 53.2% Russian_South (derived) + 46.8% Swedish (derived) @ 1.44
5 67.7% Russian_South (derived) + 32.3% Orcadian (derived) @ 1.48
6 62% Russian_Center (derived) + 38% CEU (derived) @ 1.49
7 67.4% Polish_V (derived) + 32.6% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 1.54
8 58.5% Russian_Center (derived) + 41.5% Welsh (derived) @ 1.55
9 70.7% German-North (derived) + 29.3% Latvian (derived) @ 1.56
10 72.7% Belarusian_V (derived) + 27.3% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 1.56
11 53.9% German-North (derived) + 46.1% Polish (derived) @ 1.63
12 63.8% Russian_South (derived) + 36.2% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 1.65
13 54.9% Ukrainian-East (derived) + 45.1% Swedish (derived) @ 1.66
14 60.5% German_V (derived) + 39.5% Latvian (derived) @ 1.7
15 83.2% German-North (derived) + 16.8% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 1.71
16 63.3% Russian_South (derived) + 36.7% Welsh (derived) @ 1.72
17 72.8% German-North (derived) + 27.2% Lithuanian (derived) @ 1.73
18 55.9% Russian (derived) + 44.1% CEU (derived) @ 1.73
19 63.3% Russian_Center (derived) + 36.7% Orcadian (derived) @ 1.75
20 63.3% Belarusian_V (derived) + 36.7% Swedish (derived) @ 1.76

Silesian
10-13-2012, 07:58 PM
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian-Center (derived) 3.13
2 Ukrainian-East (derived) 3.54
3 Polish_V (derived) 3.66
4 Belarusian_V (derived) 3.72
5 Ukrainian (derived) 3.82
6 Ukrainian_V (derived) 4.02
7 Russian_cossack (derived) 4.07
8 Russian_South (derived) 4.21
9 Sorb (derived) 4.3
10 Ukrainian-West (derived) 4.79
1 96.2% Polish_V (derived) + 3.8% Abhkasian (derived) @ 2.17
2 96.3% Polish_V (derived) + 3.7% Georgian_Imereti (derived) @ 2.19
3 96.1% Polish_V (derived) + 3.9% Georgian_Laz (derived) @ 2.24
4 55.2% North-East-European (ancestral) +44.8%Kosovar (derived) @ 2.25
5 95.2% Polish_V (derived) + 4.8% Adygei (derived) @ 2.25

ChrisR
10-22-2012, 12:36 AM
Is there a place where the latest MDLP DIY files can be downloaded as gedmatch.com has problems or is overloaded?

MitchellSince1893
06-17-2013, 02:55 AM
MDLP World-22

1. North-East-European 51.21%
2. Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 30.52%
3. West-Asian 7.63%
4. North-European-Mesolithic 4.70%
5. Near_East 2.50%
6. Indo-Iranian 1.80%
7. Indian 0.87%
8. South-America_Amerind 0.27%
9. Paleo-Siberian 0.22%
10. Samoedic 0.14%

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 German_V (derived) 2.8
2 Hungarian (derived) 3.2
3 Austrian (derived) 3.54
4 CEU_V (derived) 3.68
5 German (derived) 3.83
6 Slovenian (derived) 4
7 German-North (derived) 4.06
8 Croatian (derived) 5.41
9 Swedish (derived) 5.99
10 Bosnian (derived) 6.64
11 Czech (derived) 7.04
12 Welsh (derived) 7.2
13 Croatian_V (derived) 7.85
14 Norwegian_V (derived) 8.27
15 Swedish_V (derived) 8.37
16 CEU (derived) 8.51
17 Slovakian (derived) 8.57
18 Serbian (derived) 9.32
19 British (derived) 9.5
20 Orcadian (derived) 10.35

rockman
07-11-2013, 04:57 PM
Here is my MDLP World-22, not very accurate in finding my populations as Dodecad K12b and 7b are.

Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 34.06
2 Indian 30.71
3 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 6.39
4 Near_East 5.42
5 Indo-Iranian 5.31
6 East-South-Asian 4.75
7 North-East-European 4.12
8 Samoedic 2.83
9 East-Siberean 1.84
10 North-European-Mesolithic 1.12
11 Indo-Tibetan 0.82
12 South-America_Amerind 0.73
13 Melanesian 0.7
14 North-Amerind 0.37
15 Arctic-Amerind 0.35
16 Pygmy 0.26
17 South-African 0.18
18 Sub-Saharian 0.03

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Burusho @ 10.177
2 Pathan @ 12.227
3 Sindhi @ 13.576
4 Jew_India @ 15.711
5 Balochi @ 16.591
6 Pashtun @ 18.715
7 Parsi @ 20.291
8 Makrani @ 20.435
9 Brahui @ 21.478
10 Tadjik @ 25.145
276 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri +50% Hindu @ 5.364
2 50% Azeri +50% Indian @ 6.019
3 50% Indian +50% Ossetian @ 6.469
4 50% Indian +50% NorthOssetian @ 6.702
5 50% Jew_India +50% Pashtun @ 6.702
6 50% Indian +50% Kurd @ 6.782
7 50% Hindu +50% Kurd @ 6.873
8 50% Jew_India +50% Tadjik @ 6.902
9 50% Indian +50% Kumyk @ 6.905
10 50% Georgian +50% Indian @ 6.975
38226 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Burusho +25% Armenian +25% Indian @ 2.827
2 50% Burusho +25% Indian +25% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 3.184
3 50% Burusho +25% Indian +25% Jew_Tat @ 3.338
4 50% Burusho +25% Indian +25% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 3.390
5 50% Jew_India +25% Pathan +25% Turkmen @ 3.441
6 50% Jew_India +25% Burusho +25% Turkmen @ 3.554
7 50% Burusho +25% Indian +25% Kurd @ 3.661
8 50% Burusho +25% Indian +25% Jew_Iraqi @ 3.713
9 50% Burusho +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Indian @ 3.788
10 50% Burusho +25% Indian +25% Jew_Kurd @ 3.841
1596094 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian + Burusho + Burusho + Indian @ 2.827
2 Burusho + Burusho + Indian + Jew_Azerbaijan @ 3.184
3 Burusho + Burusho + Indian + Jew_Tat @ 3.338
4 Burusho + Burusho + Indian + Jew-Uzbekistan @ 3.390
5 Jew_India + Jew_India + Pathan + Turkmen @ 3.441
6 Burusho + Jew_India + Jew_India + Turkmen @ 3.554
7 Burusho + Indian + Jew_Azerbaijan + Pathan @ 3.592
8 Armenian + Burusho + Indian + Pathan @ 3.592
9 Balochi + Burusho + Indian + Turk @ 3.592
10 Burusho + Burusho + Indian + Kurd @ 3.661
11 Burusho + Indian + Jew-Uzbekistan + Pathan @ 3.690
12 Burusho + Burusho + Indian + Jew_Iraqi @ 3.713
13 Hindu + Georgian_Imereti + Indian + Turkmen @ 3.773
14 Burusho + Burusho + Georgian_Laz + Indian @ 3.788
15 Burusho + Indian + Jew_Tat + Pathan @ 3.803
16 Burusho + Burusho + Indian + Jew_Kurd @ 3.841
17 Burusho + Indian + Sindhi + Turk @ 3.851
18 Burusho + Indian + Pathan + Turk @ 3.885
19 Armenian + Burusho + Indian + Sindhi @ 3.911
20 Burusho + Indian + Kurd + Pathan @ 3.932

newtoboard
07-11-2013, 05:46 PM
What is this Indo-Iranian component?

DMXX
07-11-2013, 08:58 PM
What is this Indo-Iranian component?

See this earlier post (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?138-Magnus-Ducatus-Lituaniae-Project-(MDLP)&p=739&viewfull=1#post739) in this thread:



The Indo-Iranian component here is greatest in the Kalash (~84%) by an extremely large margin, of the order of approx. 75%. Those populations with >5% tend to sit around South-Central Asia.

Based on this, the Indo-Iranian component doesn't appear to be any more informative than the "Kalash" component (which it basically is) seen in other projects. Dienekes' dissection of the Kalash found them to be a mixed West-South Asian population with a slither of North European.

AJL
07-11-2013, 09:12 PM
My World-22.


# Population Percent
Pygmy 0.19%
West-Asian 14.01%
North-European-Mesolithic 2.69%
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican 0.13%
Arctic-Amerind 0.30%
South-America_Amerind -
Indian 1.82%
North-Siberean 0.10%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 34.11%
Samoedic -
Indo-Iranian 0.41%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 31.64%
South-African -
North-Amerind 0.21%
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 13.64%
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian 0.72%
Austronesian -


Single population sharing:


Using 1 population approximation:
1 Gagauz @ 7.964
2 Ashkenazim_V @ 8.042
3 Romania @ 8.236
4 Bulgarian @ 8.305
5 Italian_North @ 9.754
6 Greek_South @ 10.188
7 Macedonian @ 10.495
8 Greek_North @ 10.965
9 Montenegrin @ 11.385
10 Swiss @ 11.585

Mixed Mode (2)


1 50% German-North +50% Jew_Francestrale @ 2.294
2 50% German-North +50% Jew_Italia @ 2.370
3 50% German-North +50% Sephardim @ 2.768
4 50% German +50% Jew_Francestrale @ 2.946
5 50% Jew_Francestrale +50% Slovenian @ 2.966
6 50% CEU_V +50% Jew_Francestrale @ 3.038
7 50% Jew_Italia +50% Swedish @ 3.133
8 50% German_V +50% Jew_Francestrale @ 3.166
9 50% CEU_V +50% Jew_Italia @ 3.171
10 50% Jew_Francestrale +50% Swedish @ 3.176

And using 4:


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Estonian + Jew_Kurd + Sardinian + Swiss @ 1.721
2 Estonian + Jew-Iran + Sardinian + Swiss @ 1.842
3 Druze + Estonian + Romania + Sardinian @ 1.853
4 Estonian + Jew_Georgia + Romania + Sardinian @ 1.869
5 Estonian + Italian_North + Jew_Kurd + Sardinian @ 1.938
6 Estonian + German-South + Jew-Iran + Sardinian @ 1.955
7 Estonian + Jew-Uzbekistan + Sardinian + Swiss @ 1.961
8 Estonian + Italian_North + Jew-Uzbekistan + Sardinian @ 1.969
9 Ashkenazim_V + Jew_Francestrale + Romania + Swedish @ 1.976
10 Jew_Kurd + Latvian + Sardinian + Swiss @ 1.977
11 Jew-Iran + Latvian + Sardinian + Swiss @ 1.992
12 Jew-Iran + Sardinian + Swedish + Ukrainian_V @ 1.995
13 Jew-Iran + Sardinian + Swedish + Ukrainian-West @ 1.996
14 Italian_North + Jew_Kurd + Latvian + Sardinian @ 2.018
15 Estonian + Lebanese + Romania + Sardinian @ 2.048
16 Greek_South + Montenegrin + Sephardim + Swedish_V @ 2.050
17 Estonian + Jew_Kurd + Provancestralal + Sardinian @ 2.055
18 Jew_Kurd + Latvian + Provancestralal + Sardinian @ 2.056
19 Bulgarian + Greek_South + Jew_Francestrale + Swedish_V @ 2.074
20 Greek_South + Jew_Francestrale + Macedonian + Swedish @ 2.078


Elagu Eesti! :)

leonardo
07-12-2013, 01:29 AM
My father's is similar to yours AJL:
Pygmy 0.29%
West-Asian 12.34%
North-European-Mesolithic 4.97%
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican 0.40%
Arctic-Amerind -
South-America_Amerind -
Indian 2.00%
North-Siberean 0.46%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 28.73%
Samoedic -
Indo-Iranian 2.73%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 38.86%
South-African 0.79%
North-Amerind -
Sub-Saharian 0.38%
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 8.03%
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian -

Solothurn
07-12-2013, 11:17 AM
All are British 'mutts'

Mine


1 North-East-European 48.35
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 33.29
3 North-European-Mesolithic 7.1
4 West-Asian 5.69
5 Near_East 2.82
6 Indo-Iranian 2.08
7 Indo-Tibetan 0.49

Oracle
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 CEU_V (derived) 3.2
2 German_V (derived) 3.99
3 Norwegian_V (derived) 4.82
4 Welsh (derived) 4.92
5 Austrian (derived) 5.03
6 CEU (derived) 5.04
7 Swedish (derived) 5.99
8 British (derived) 6.23
9 German-North (derived) 6.65
10 Hungarian (derived) 6.8
11 Orcadian (derived) 6.9
12 German (derived) 7.19
13 Slovenian (derived) 7.95
14 Swedish_V (derived) 8.25
15 German-South (derived) 8.25
16 Croatian (derived) 8.87
17 Bosnian (derived) 9.63
18 Serbian (derived) 9.74
19 Czech (derived) 10.74
20 Croatian_V (derived) 11.53

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.5% Swedish (derived) + 14.5% Italian-South (derived) @ 0.89
2 84.9% Swedish (derived) + 15.1% Italian-Center (derived) @ 0.92
3 86.3% Swedish (derived) + 13.7% Sicilian (derived) @ 1.01
4 84.2% Swedish (derived) + 15.8% Greek_Center (derived) @ 1.21
5 84.9% Swedish (derived) + 15.1% Greek_East (derived) @ 1.24
6 88.7% Swedish (derived) + 11.3% Sephardim (derived) @ 1.26
7 88% Swedish (derived) + 12% Jew_Francestrale (derived) @ 1.28
8 88.2% Swedish (derived) + 11.8% Jew_Italia (derived) @ 1.3
9 67.3% Norwegian_V (derived) + 32.7% Bosnian (derived) @ 1.36
10 67.8% Swedish_V (derived) + 32.2% Italian_North (derived) @ 1.36
11 87.5% Swedish (derived) + 12.5% Greek_Cretan (derived) @ 1.38
12 80.9% Swedish (derived) + 19.1% Italian-North (derived) @ 1.45
13 89.1% Swedish (derived) + 10.9% Jew_Algeria (derived) @ 1.45
14 82.7% Swedish (derived) + 17.3% Greek_South (derived) @ 1.46
15 89.8% Swedish (derived) + 10.2% Cypriot (derived) @ 1.48
16 82.8% Swedish (derived) + 17.2% Greek_North (derived) @ 1.52
17 84.9% Swedish (derived) + 15.1% Jew_Romania (derived) @ 1.59
18 87.5% Swedish (derived) + 12.5% Ashkenazim (derived) @ 1.59
19 88.8% Swedish (derived) + 11.2% Jew_Morocco (derived) @ 1.66
20 97.3% CEU_V (derived) + 2.7% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 1.66


Mum's


1 North-East-European 47.39
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 33.57
3 West-Asian 7.58
4 North-European-Mesolithic 6.88
5 Indo-Iranian 1.82
6 Near_East 1.52
7 Arctic-Amerind 0.73

Oracle
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_V (derived) 3.94
2 CEU_V (derived) 4.08
3 CEU (derived) 4.8
4 Welsh (derived) 5.33
5 Austrian (derived) 5.37
6 Norwegian_V (derived) 5.61
7 British (derived) 5.94
8 Hungarian (derived) 7.04
9 Orcadian (derived) 7.1
10 Swedish (derived) 7.18
11 German-South (derived) 7.37
12 German-North (derived) 7.52
13 German (derived) 7.73
14 Slovenian (derived) 8.49
15 Croatian (derived) 9.02
16 Serbian (derived) 9.21
17 Bosnian (derived) 9.51
18 Swedish_V (derived) 9.61
19 Montenegrin (derived) 11.26
20 Czech (derived) 11.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.7% German_V (derived) + 3.3% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 2.01
2 81.5% Swedish (derived) + 18.5% Greek_Center (derived) @ 2.02
3 96.3% German_V (derived) + 3.7% Bra1 (derived) @ 2.11
4 82.5% Swedish (derived) + 17.5% Italian-Center (derived) @ 2.12
5 96.3% German_V (derived) + 3.7% Bra2 (derived) @ 2.13
6 82.3% Swedish (derived) + 17.7% Greek_East (derived) @ 2.13
7 79.6% Swedish (derived) + 20.4% Greek_North (derived) @ 2.19
8 63.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 36.6% Serbian (derived) @ 2.21
9 83.3% Swedish (derived) + 16.7% Italian-South (derived) @ 2.22
10 78.6% German-South (derived) + 21.4% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.27
11 95.9% German_V (derived) + 4.1% Saami (derived) @ 2.28
12 85.4% Swedish (derived) + 14.6% Greek_Cretan (derived) @ 2.3
13 82% CEU (derived) + 18% Latvian_V (derived) @ 2.37
14 80.6% German-South (derived) + 19.4% Karelian (derived) @ 2.38
15 78.7% Swedish (derived) + 21.3% Kosovar (derived) @ 2.39
16 82.3% German-South (derived) + 17.7% Vepsa (derived) @ 2.41
17 79.9% Swedish (derived) + 20.1% Greek_South (derived) @ 2.44
18 84.3% Swedish (derived) + 15.7% Sicilian (derived) @ 2.46
19 70.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 29.5% Macedonian (derived) @ 2.48
20 94.5% CEU_V (derived) + 5.5% Ossetian (derived) @ 2.52


Dad's (Phased so accurate or ??)

1 North-East-European 42.22
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 30.74
3 North-European-Mesolithic 7.88
4 West-Asian 7.57
5 Near_East 4.9
6 Indo-Iranian 3.18
7 Indo-Tibetan 0.99
8 Sub-Saharian 0.84
9 Indian 0.68
10 Pygmy 0.56

Oracle
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_V (derived) 8.78
2 German-South (derived) 8.79
3 Serbian (derived) 8.79
4 CEU (derived) 8.89
5 Norwegian_V (derived) 8.99
6 CEU_V (derived) 9.26
7 Austrian (derived) 9.35
8 Hungarian (derived) 9.85
9 British (derived) 10.01
10 Montenegrin (derived) 10.13
11 Welsh (derived) 10.29
12 Macedonian (derived) 10.38
13 Bosnian (derived) 10.78
14 Orcadian (derived) 10.89
15 German (derived) 10.91
16 Croatian (derived) 11.36
17 Swedish (derived) 11.8
18 Swiss (derived) 11.87
19 Bulgarian (derived) 11.92
20 Slovenian (derived) 12.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 14.4% Iraqi (derived) @ 2.2
2 85.3% Norwegian_V (derived) + 14.7% Syrian (derived) @ 2.22
3 73.5% Swedish_V (derived) + 26.5% Greek_Cretan (derived) @ 2.26
4 78.1% Swedish_V (derived) + 21.9% Cypriot (derived) @ 2.29
5 85.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 14.4% Jordanian (derived) @ 2.42
6 78.1% Swedish_V (derived) + 21.9% Jew_Syria (derived) @ 2.48
7 86.9% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.1% Jew-Iran (derived) @ 2.51
8 86.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.4% Jew_Kurd (derived) @ 2.53
9 85.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 14.9% Lebanese (derived) @ 2.59
10 86.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.3% Jew-Iraqi (derived) @ 2.63
11 86.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.9% Palestinian (derived) @ 2.63
12 76.8% Swedish_V (derived) + 23.2% Jew_Algeria (derived) @ 2.66
13 86.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.9% Iranian (derived) @ 2.66
14 86.3% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.7% Jew-Uzbekistan (derived) @ 2.68
15 86.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.3% Jew_Iraqi (derived) @ 2.69
16 71.6% Swedish_V (derived) + 28.4% Sicilian (derived) @ 2.71
17 68.7% Swedish_V (derived) + 31.3% Greek_East (derived) @ 2.74
18 86.3% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.7% Jew_Georgia (derived) @ 2.75
19 75.1% Swedish_V (derived) + 24.9% Jew_Italia (derived) @ 2.75
20 68.1% Swedish_V (derived) + 31.9% Jew_Romania (derived) @ 2.76

AJL
07-12-2013, 03:45 PM
Solothurn -- I am not sure if phased is any more accurate, since most of these calculators were designed specifically with unphased data. I ran some admixture analysis experiments by reduplicating my phased results one at a time as if I descended first from my father twice, then from my mother twice. The results were truly bizarre.

Solothurn
07-13-2013, 10:50 AM
I totally agree

My dad has 5.5% Masaai in the Eurogenes EU calculator!

He was quite dark skinned due to being a sun lover, but not that dark :)

1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.62
2 ATLANTIC 23.61
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 13.03
4 WEST_MED 11.03
5 EAST_EURO 10.89
6 WEST_ASIAN 6.35
7 EAST_AFRICAN 3.57
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.01
9 EAST_MED 2.32
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.45
11 MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 NL 6.27
2 West_&_Central_German 6.37
3 English 7.41
4 Cornish 7.72
5 Orcadian 7.79
6 IE 8.09
7 DK 8.23
8 NO 8.96
9 South_&_Central_Swedish 9.27
10 Scottish 9.58
11 AT 10.73
12 North_Swedish 12.07
13 FR 12.07
14 HU 15.29
15 Serbian 17.6
16 PT 18.16
17 ES 19.1
18 South_Finnish 19.76
19 RO 20.49
20 PL 21.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.5% NL + 5.5% Maasai @ 4.15
2 94.2% NL + 5.8% Somali @ 4.26
3 94.2% NL + 5.8% Ethiopian @ 4.48
4 95% West_&_Central_German + 5% Maasai @ 4.73
5 94.8% West_&_Central_German + 5.2% Somali @ 4.87
6 92.9% NL + 7.1% Kalash @ 4.93
7 93.2% NL + 6.8% Burusho @ 4.98
8 93.9% NL + 6.1% Sindhi @ 5.05
9 94.8% NL + 5.2% IN @ 5.11
10 94.9% West_&_Central_German + 5.1% Ethiopian @ 5.12
11 95% NL + 5% Gujarati @ 5.12
12 90.5% English + 9.5% Kalash @ 5.15
13 95% NL + 5% Bangladeshi @ 5.19
14 93.7% NL + 6.3% Balochi @ 5.21
15 93.7% NL + 6.3% Brahui @ 5.21
16 93.9% English + 6.1% Maasai @ 5.23
17 90.9% English + 9.1% Burusho @ 5.24
18 93.5% English + 6.5% Somali @ 5.28
19 96.2% NL + 3.8% South_Indian @ 5.31
20 95.3% West_&_Central_German + 4.7% Gujarati @ 5.4


The results were truly bizarre.

Sangarius
07-13-2013, 09:22 PM
MDLP World-22 4-Ancestors Oracle

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 40.8
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 26.02
3 Near_East 15.92
4 North-East-European 7.09
5 Indian 2.5
6 Samoedic 2.19
7 East-Siberean 1.63
8 East-South-Asian 1.37
9 Indo-Iranian 1.21
10 Indo-Tibetan 0.45
11 South-America_Amerind 0.39
12 Melanesian 0.2
13 Sub-Saharian 0.14
14 North-Siberean 0.08
15 Austronesian 0.01

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk @ 4.888
2 Azeri @ 11.872
3 Armenian @ 12.142
4 Greek_Azov @ 13.604
5 Kurd @ 13.744
6 Cirkassian @ 14.985
7 Jew-Uzbekistan @ 15.157
8 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 15.342
9 Jew_Tat @ 16.157
10 Kumyk @ 16.316
276 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +50% NorthOssetian @ 3.595
2 50% Cypriot +50% Kumyk @ 3.614
3 50% Balkarian +50% Cypriot @ 3.935
4 50% Cypriot +50% Kabardinian @ 4.108
5 50% Jew_Syria +50% NorthOssetian @ 4.111
6 50% Cypriot +50% Ossetian @ 4.452
7 50% Jew_Syria +50% Ossetian @ 4.504
8 50% Balkarian +50% Jew_Syria @ 4.531
9 50% Adygei +50% Cypriot @ 4.634
10 50% Jew_Syria +50% Kabardinian @ 4.769
38226 iterations.




Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian + Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 2.585
2 Armenian + Georgian_Laz + Italian-South + Turkmen @ 2.596
3 Cypriot + Georgian_Imereti + Greek_Cretan + Turkmen @ 2.804
4 Armenian + Georgian_Laz + Italian-Center + Turkmen @ 2.818
5 Abhkasian + Cypriot + Greek_Cretan + Turkmen @ 2.830
6 Azeri + Georgian_Laz + Sicilian + Turk @ 2.849
7 Georgian_Imereti + Kurd + Sephardim + Tatar_Crim @ 2.915
8 Azeri + Georgian_Laz + Italian-South + Turk @ 2.917
9 West-Asian + Samaritian + Sardinian + Turkmen @ 2.991
10 Cypriot + Georgian_Imereti + Sephardim + Tadjik @ 3.011
11 Azeri + Georgian_Imereti + Sephardim + Tatar_Crim @ 3.039
12 Georgian_Imereti + Jew_Algeria + Kurd + Tatar_Crim @ 3.046
13 Azeri + Georgian_Imereti + Jew_Algeria + Tatar_Crim @ 3.048
14 Azeri + Cypriot + Georgian_Laz + Tatar_Crim @ 3.067
15 Georgian_Laz + Kumyk + Sephardim + Turk @ 3.077
16 West-Asian + Palestinian + Sardinian + Turkmen @ 3.081
17 Abhkasian + Cypriot + Sephardim + Tadjik @ 3.108
18 Azeri + Georgian_Laz + Italian-Center + Turk @ 3.130
19 Armenian + Georgian_Laz + Nogai + Sephardim @ 3.132
20 Cypriot + Georgian_Imereti + Tatar_Crim + Turk @ 3.139

J Man
08-08-2013, 09:50 PM
Vadim has a new calculator out! Here is his broken English translation about it and the files below. I can send someone my raw data!

Okay here is the broken English translation of his post about this new calculator on Facebook.

OK, ladies and gentlemen, enough blabbing language. It's time for it to do.
So, by popular demand, I've decided to release beta version of MDL DIYkal′kulātora.
It should be noted that before making the decision to release I thought long about whether it makes sense to spread calculator and accompanying him to the Oracle version in open access. But ultimately, my vanity overcame reason.

I hasten to point out three important issues: 1) this version is fundamentally different from the betas I've been posting on the HC testing. A. Burnaševu and s. Kozlov 2) I'm not going to (so far) to embed it in the gedmatch calculators 3) most important, because of the much greater scope reference populations (a total of 429) on a global scale, this calculator will be much less informative for the Europeans (Eastern and Western), in comparison with other calculators already project at gedmatch. Most likely in their case, the calculator will display only the key historical episodes of mixing of populations. In the calculator of the cluster only 27 3-4 are relevant to typical Europeans. But (most likely) it will be the ideal tools for people with bi-and trirasovym origin, as well as Amerindians, Asians, and Africans. Others recommend accepting the results, as the English say, with a grain of salt.

For instructions on using the calculator are the same as in the basic version of the calculator from Dienekes Pontikos (these instructions can be found in his blog). The options file is called test.par.

As for Oracle, Oracle Dodecad similar commands with the only difference that the work function is called cotvetstvenno MDLOracle and MOracle2.

MDLOracle http://zalil.ru/34668697 Oracle http://zalil.ru/34668703 DIYCalculator http://zalil.ru/34668714


http://zalil.ru/34668697

http://zalil.ru/34668703

http://zalil.ru/34668714

DMXX
08-08-2013, 10:11 PM
Thanks J Man, I'm running the data now on my own genome. You're welcome to send yours to me via PM if you'd like me to give it a go. The same offer goes to everyone else.

Been a while since we've had an autosomal run to play with, eh? :)

[Edit]: This message came up. Not sure what's going on, will investigate.



27 ancestral populations
118536 total SNPs
At line 115 of file DIYDodecad.f90 (Unit 20 "test.txt")
Traceback: not available, compile with -ftrace=frame or -ftrace=full
Fortran runtime error: End of file
Warning message:
running command 'DIYDodecadWin test.par' had status 2

J Man
08-08-2013, 10:27 PM
^Thanks DMXX! Hmmm I can send Vadim a message about the error if it persists. Please let me know.

DMXX
08-08-2013, 10:30 PM
^Thanks DMXX! Hmmm I can send Vadim a message about the error if it persists. Please let me know.

J Man, I just noticed noticed the "test.txt" file included is completely empty.

If you look back at previous DIYDodecad's, you'll see it contains component names. I have several of the old runs here. For example, dv3.txt contains:



East_European
West_European
Mediterranean
Neo_African
West_Asian
South_Asian
Northeast_Asian
Southeast_Asian
East_African
Southwest_Asian
Northwest_African
Palaeo_African


Vadim has unintentionally left out population label data. Maybe you could contact him about this? I've had several run-throughs and this seems like the issue. I've replicated the same omission in the other Dodecad txt files, repeated runs on those, and the same error message comes up.

J Man
08-08-2013, 10:52 PM
^Okay I just sent him a message about it. Hopefully he will get back to me soon about it.

DMXX
08-09-2013, 03:08 AM
I had a sudden epiphany while browsing through the files.

The "test.txt" issue renders the calculator largely unusable as we have no idea what the 27 inferred components are. However, this doesn't apply with the Oracle program. One doesn't need to know the component names to make it work. All that's needed are the raw values from the calculator.

Here are my results from the calculator. I've edited in the labels.



0.00% Nilotic-Omotic
5.66% Ancestral-South-Indian
7.30% North-European-Baltic
0.71% Uralic
0.42% Australo-Melanesian
1.37% East-Siberean
0.30% Ancestral-Yayoi
28.17% Caucasian-Near-Eastern
2.40% Tibeto-Burman
0.01% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygmean
0.06% Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers
1.05% Nilo-Saharian
0.00% North-African
27.01% Gedrosia-Caucasian
2.30% Cushitic
0.29% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Bushmen
0.00% South-Meso-Amerindian
5.95% South-West-European
1.16% North-Amerindian
10.54% Arabic
0.43% North-Circumpolar
4.00% Kalash
0.36% Papuan-Australian
0.46% Baltic-Finnic
0.05% Bantu


My results.



[1,] "Iranian" "8.533"
[2,] "Azeri" "10.2872"
[3,] "Kurd" "10.564"
[4,] "Turkmenian" "11.0314"
[5,] "Turk" "11.3295"
[6,] "Kumyk" "13.9343"
[7,] "Armenian" "14.8443"
[8,] "Azeri_Jew" "15.8424"
[9,] "Kabardinian" "15.9952"
[10,] "Georgian-Jewtat" "16.0899"


The MDLP 22-World run didn't include Iranians or Kurds as reference populations, so I kept getting Turkish as my top. I generally consider a distance greater than 10 to be the threshold concerning overall ancestral similarity. These results aren't too surprising; I score best with Iranians and Kurds generally, followed by various West Asian groups. South-Central Asian or SE European populations make an appearance somewhere in the top 20, but the distances leave a lot to be desired (usually >15).

And, here's my Mixed Mode;



[1,] "70.8% Iranian + 29.2% Tatar_Crim" "3.6165"
[2,] "81.3% Iranian + 18.7% Romanian" "3.8445"
[3,] "43.8% Druze + 56.2% Tadijk" "3.8571"
[4,] "82.9% Iranian + 17.1% Macedonian" "3.9375"
[5,] "81.4% Iranian + 18.6% Romaniann" "3.9549"
[6,] "17.6% Bulgarian + 82.4% Iranian" "3.9748"
[7,] "84% Iranian + 16% Montenegrian" "3.9826"
[8,] "18.4% Gagauz + 81.6% Iranian" "3.9873"
[9,] "85% Iranian + 15% Serbian" "4.0606"
[10,] "14.2% Bosnian + 85.8% Iranian" "4.2529"


Similar to previous results, except the pull north/northwest/northeast away from Iran is greater here. Note I was ~55% Druze/Assyrian and ~45% Tajik in the past, but the new results are flip-flopped.

[Edit]: Amended post now component names released.

J Man
08-09-2013, 03:11 AM
Wow awesome! Can I send you my raw data now DMXX?

DMXX
08-09-2013, 03:13 AM
Sure thing; you can PM it to me, or if you'd prefer, email (please message me either way if you'd prefer that).

J Man
08-09-2013, 03:21 AM
Sure thing; you can PM it to me, or if you'd prefer, email (please message me either way if you'd prefer that).

May I please have your email so I can send it there? I can receive PMs on here but I can't send them for some strange reason. You can PM me your email.

J Man
08-09-2013, 03:53 AM
Sent! I hope you got it.

Scarlet Ibis
08-09-2013, 05:16 AM
May I please have your email so I can send it there? I can receive PMs on here but I can't send them for some strange reason. You can PM me your email.

What does it say when you try to send a PM?

DMXX
08-09-2013, 07:10 AM
Sent! I hope you got it.

I can confirm this, and the data's running now. Will post your results in the next few hours.

In the meantime, you can check post 42 for my results. Seems like my placement above the Iranian cluster in McDonald's BGA (and sitting wet on the Caspian sea floor in one of Humanist's old runs :P ) is continuously justified.

[Edit]: J Man, here's the raw results. I've also included the component labels now:



----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

0.12% Nilotic-Omotic
0.00% Ancestral-South-Indian
25.73% North-European-Baltic
1.86% Uralic
1.09% Australo-Melanesian
0.00% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
11.13% Caucasian-Near-Eastern
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.03% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygmean
0.00% Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers
0.17% Nilo-Saharian
2.11% North-African
9.99% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.00% Cushitic
0.00% Congo-Pygmean
0.07% Bushmen
0.00% South-Meso-Amerindian
22.60% South-West-European
1.30% North-Amerindian
3.10% Arabic
0.20% North-Circumpolar
1.85% Kalash
0.35% Papuan-Australian
18.31% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu


Here's your single population match:



[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Swedish" "17.6964"
[2,] "South_German" "19.4948"
[3,] "Swiss" "19.8549"
[4,] "Austrian" "19.9294"
[5,] "N._European" "21.3802"
[6,] "Welsh" "22.1812"
[7,] "Hungarian" "22.597"
[8,] "Provancal" "22.715"
[9,] "North-West-European" "22.7172"
[10,] "French" "22.9833"


Finally, here's the Mixed Mode result (2 way population split):



[1,] "37.2% Inkeri + 62.8% Provancal" "4.473"
[2,] "31.6% South_Finn + 68.4% Swiss" "5.0472"
[3,] "32.6% Finn + 67.4% Swiss" "5.0787"
[4,] "33.8% Inkeri + 66.2% Swiss" "5.1497"
[5,] "38% Karelian + 62% Provancal" "5.4865"
[6,] "29.4% Finland + 70.6% Swiss" "5.4883"
[7,] "35.6% Finn + 64.4% Provancal" "5.7242"
[8,] "65.4% Provancal + 34.6% South_Finn" "5.9052"
[9,] "32.3% Finland + 67.7% Provancal" "6.4964"
[10,] "42.5% Karelian + 57.5% North_Italian" "6.5888"

J Man
08-09-2013, 11:53 AM
Thanks DMXX! How did you find the component names?

newtoboard
08-09-2013, 12:57 PM
I can confirm this, and the data's running now. Will post your results in the next few hours.

In the meantime, you can check post 42 for my results. Seems like my placement above the Iranian cluster in McDonald's BGA (and sitting wet on the Caspian sea floor in one of Humanist's old runs :P ) is continuously justified.

[Edit]: J Man, here's the raw results. I've also included the component labels now:



----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

0.12% Nilotic-Omotic
0.00% Ancestral-South-Indian
25.73% North-European-Baltic
1.86% Uralic
1.09% Australo-Melanesian
0.00% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
11.13% Caucasian-Near-Eastern
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.03% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygmean
0.00% Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers
0.17% Nilo-Saharian
2.11% North-African
9.99% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.00% Cushitic
0.00% Congo-Pygmean
0.07% Bushmen
0.00% South-Meso-Amerindian
22.60% South-West-European
1.30% North-Amerindian
3.10% Arabic
0.20% North-Circumpolar
1.85% Kalash
0.35% Papuan-Australian
18.31% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu


Here's your single population match:



[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Swedish" "17.6964"
[2,] "South_German" "19.4948"
[3,] "Swiss" "19.8549"
[4,] "Austrian" "19.9294"
[5,] "N._European" "21.3802"
[6,] "Welsh" "22.1812"
[7,] "Hungarian" "22.597"
[8,] "Provancal" "22.715"
[9,] "North-West-European" "22.7172"
[10,] "French" "22.9833"


Finally, here's the Mixed Mode result (2 way population split):



[1,] "37.2% Inkeri + 62.8% Provancal" "4.473"
[2,] "31.6% South_Finn + 68.4% Swiss" "5.0472"
[3,] "32.6% Finn + 67.4% Swiss" "5.0787"
[4,] "33.8% Inkeri + 66.2% Swiss" "5.1497"
[5,] "38% Karelian + 62% Provancal" "5.4865"
[6,] "29.4% Finland + 70.6% Swiss" "5.4883"
[7,] "35.6% Finn + 64.4% Provancal" "5.7242"
[8,] "65.4% Provancal + 34.6% South_Finn" "5.9052"
[9,] "32.3% Finland + 67.7% Provancal" "6.4964"
[10,] "42.5% Karelian + 57.5% North_Italian" "6.5888"


What do you think accounts for your northward shift?

J Man
08-09-2013, 01:01 PM
What do you think accounts for your northward shift?

Probably my Finnish and Irish/British ancestry.

DMXX
08-09-2013, 01:06 PM
What do you think accounts for your northward shift?

I favour the interpretation that my results represent a more northern example of the Iranian genepool. I'm not the only one with a northern shift; NK19191's values and plot positions are very similar and he too is an Azeri-Persian combination with minor Caucasus input.

I initially thought my genealogical connection to the Caucasus was responsible for this (speculated North after Z-IBD analyses by Dienekes showed a remarkable pull towards Ossetians for an Iranian), but as my paternal ancestor arrived from further north 6-7 generations ago... That simply can't explain a ~17% northern/European addition relative to the MDLP reference Iranians.

J Man
08-09-2013, 03:40 PM
What does it say when you try to send a PM?

It does not say anything. It just kind of blips the page and nothing really happens.

J Man
08-09-2013, 03:51 PM
I favour the interpretation that my results represent a more northern example of the Iranian genepool. I'm not the only one with a northern shift; NK19191's values and plot positions are very similar and he too is an Azeri-Persian combination with minor Caucasus input.

I initially thought my genealogical connection to the Caucasus was responsible for this (speculated North after Z-IBD analyses by Dienekes showed a remarkable pull towards Ossetians for an Iranian), but as my paternal ancestor arrived from further north 6-7 generations ago... That simply can't explain a ~17% northern/European addition relative to the MDLP reference Iranians.

How did you find the component names DMXX?

DMXX
08-10-2013, 12:06 AM
How did you find the component names DMXX?

I simply searched on Google for this run in case Vadim updated people elsewhere, which he did.

Scarlet Ibis
08-10-2013, 01:15 AM
I tried downloading the Calculator, and I got a warning message saying it appears to be a malicious file. Did anyone else get this error message? False alarm?

DMXX
08-10-2013, 01:25 AM
Yes, it's a false alarm. I've run Malwarebytes on top of my native scanner and it's safe.

J Man
08-10-2013, 03:09 AM
I saw some very strange results for a Finnish lady on another forum today. Well actually her ADMIXTURE results look fairly accurate but her Oracle results look way off.

0.00% Nilotic-Omotic
1.45% Ancestral-South-Indi
28.42% North-European-Balti
4.51% Uralic
0.40% Australo-Melanesian
0.61% East-Siberean
0.01% Ancestral-Yayoi
3.61% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.46% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygm
0.15% Central-African-Hunt
0.10% Nilo-Saharian
0.00% North-African
1.61% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.00% Cushitic
0.12% Congo-Pygmean
0.07% Bushmen
0.15% South-Meso-Amerindia
4.61% South-West-European
0.00% North-Amerindian
0.10% Arabic
0.66% North-Circumpolar
0.02% Kalash
0.00% Papuan-Australian
52.93% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu


[1,] "47.6% East-Greenland-Eskimo + 52.4% North-Russian" "2.1919"
[2,] "10.8% Komi + 89.2% South_Finn" "2.2124"
[3,] "9.8% Chuvash + 90.2% South_Finn" "2.2142"
[4,] "51.8% East-Greenland-Eskimo + 48.2% Mordovian" "2.4408"
[5,] "57.1% Vepsa + 42.9% West-Greenland-Eskimo" "2.4777"
[6,] "84.9% South_Finn + 15.1% Vepsa" "2.5187"
[7,] "47.9% African-Caribbean + 52.1% North-Russian" "2.563"
[8,] "45.7% North-Russian + 54.3% West-Greenland-Eskimo" "2.5734"
[9,] "6.3% Mari + 93.7% South_Finn" "2.597"
[10,] "87% South_Finn + 13% Tatar" "2.6637"

Eskimo and African-Caribbean? What the hell?

DMXX
08-10-2013, 03:13 AM
Whoever handled her results definitely made a mistake entering it into the Oracle. It isn't hard to make these - A single off decimal point or an extra 0% will give radically different results. One needs to triple-check the values.

J Man
08-10-2013, 03:17 AM
Whoever handled her results definitely made a mistake entering it into the Oracle. It isn't hard to make these - A single off decimal point or an extra 0% will give radically different results. One needs to triple-check the values.

Ahhh okay so it is not something wrong with the calculator itself then really?

DMXX
08-10-2013, 03:25 AM
If the Oracle program was inherently broken in the way suggested by that oddball result, other pred. West Eurasians (such as me and you) should also end up being like 20% Yukagir or 40% San.

Besides, everyone's results seem very consistent with their known ancestry or previous runs. This definitely looks like a case of human error.

J Man
08-10-2013, 03:33 AM
Vadim himself just told me this today about the results of some of the pre-historic samples used in this run.

''''PWC hunter-gatherers score highest in the North-European-Baltic, BRA in the Baltic-Finnic component.''

jeanL
08-10-2013, 04:02 AM
I tried using the Oracle function but for some reason it says that DodecadOracle command isn't valid.

Anyhow, here are my mom's results:

Nilotic-Omotic 0%
Ancestral-South-Indian 0.14%
North-European-Baltic 18.22%
Uralic 0%
Australo-Melanesian 0.2%
East-Siberian 0 %
Ancestral-Yayoi 0.31%
Caucasian-Near-Eastern 15.62%
Tibeto-Burman 0%
Austronesian 0.78% ???
Central-African-Pygmy 0%
Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers 0%
Nilo-Saharan 0.05%
North-African 6.16%
Gedrosia-Caucasia 7.04%
Cushistic 1.54%
Congo-Pygmy 0.45%
Bushmen 0%
South-Meso-Amerindian 0.95%
South-West-European 38.12%
North-Amerindian 0.42%
Arabic 2.82%
North-Circumpolar 0.73%
Kalash 1.08%
Papuan-Australian 0.14%
Baltic-Finnic 1.77%
Bantu 3.46%

If anyone wants to run the oracle for me, that would be awesome!!!

J Man
08-10-2013, 04:10 AM
^Interesting results thanks for sharing. What is her ancestral background jeanL?

jeanL
08-10-2013, 04:27 AM
^Interesting results thanks for sharing. What is her ancestral background jeanL?

Her mom's side is mostly Spanish(Murcian, Galician) and perhaps some North African, I'm not sure, her maternal grandmother's maternal grandfather was born in Galicia, but his name was "Julian de la Paz Perez Yosa", I've searched for the Yosa surname, and it appears to be most common in Algeria for some reason. On the dad's side there is Spanish(Galician), Italian(Corsican) lastname "Corzo", either Italian or Portuguese, lastname "Ferro", and some distant Colonial(Cuban) roots, yielding the amount of Amerindian(2.1% South+North+Artic), and the 3.5% Bantu, I'm guessing. Now I'm thinking she might have some Canary Islander too, as she scores 6.16 % North African which is kind of high, perhaps it would be good to check how Spaniards/Portuguese score in that category.

DMXX
08-10-2013, 04:48 AM
I tried using the Oracle function but for some reason it says that DodecadOracle command isn't valid.


The command here is "MOracle2", so the only command you'll need is:



MOracle2(c(value string))

Scarlet Ibis
08-10-2013, 06:23 AM
Mine. Thanks to DMXX for the instructions:


----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

22.26% Ancestral-Yayoi
19.84% Tibeto-Burman
18.86% South-West-European
18.58% North-European-Balti
4.50% Austronesian
4.48% Gedrosia-Caucasian
4.36% East-Siberean
2.98% Caucasian-Near-Easte
2.23% Baltic-Finnic
0.74% North-Circumpolar
0.27% Kalash
0.26% Papuan-Australian
0.21% Australo-Melanesian
0.20% Uralic
0.18% Arabic
0.03% South-Meso-Amerindia
0.01% Central-African-Hunt


[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Uyghur" "29.5221"
[2,] "Uygur" "30.9403"
[3,] "Karakalpak" "31.587"
[4,] "Tatar_Lithuania" "33.293"
[5,] "Kazakh" "34.2964"
[6,] "Uzbek" "34.7069"
[7,] "Colville" "35.1031"
[8,] "Kyrgyz" "35.1176"
[9,] "Hazara" "35.2437"
[10,] "Bashkir" "36.9618"


[1,] "49% Korean + 51% Welsh" "3.3339"
[2,] "49% Korean + 51% N._European" "3.597"
[3,] "49.3% Korean + 50.7% North-West-European" "4.1996"
[4,] "50% British + 50% Korean" "4.7382"
[5,] "50.3% Korean + 49.7% Orcadian" "4.7938"
[6,] "48.3% Korean + 51.7% South_German" "5.6084"
[7,] "49.8% Korean + 50.2% North_German" "6.0699"
[8,] "49.1% Korean + 50.9% Swedish" "7.0496"
[9,] "51.2% French + 48.8% Korean" "7.524"
[10,] "51.4% Austrian + 48.6% Korean" "7.5393"

Scarlet Ibis
08-10-2013, 07:18 AM
I tried using the Oracle function but for some reason it says that DodecadOracle command isn't valid.

Anyhow, here are my mom's results:

Nilotic-Omotic 0%
Ancestral-South-Indian 0.14%
North-European-Baltic 18.22%
Uralic 0%
Australo-Melanesian 0.2%
East-Siberian 0 %
Ancestral-Yayoi 0.31%
Caucasian-Near-Eastern 15.62%
Tibeto-Burman 0%
Austronesian 0.78% ???
Central-African-Pygmy 0%
Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers 0%
Nilo-Saharan 0.05%
North-African 6.16%
Gedrosia-Caucasia 7.04%
Cushistic 1.54%
Congo-Pygmy 0.45%
Bushmen 0%
South-Meso-Amerindian 0.95%
South-West-European 38.12%
North-Amerindian 0.42%
Arabic 2.82%
North-Circumpolar 0.73%
Kalash 1.08%
Papuan-Australian 0.14%
Baltic-Finnic 1.77%
Bantu 3.46%

If anyone wants to run the oracle for me, that would be awesome!!!



I had a little bit of trouble getting started on running Oracle, too. Here's how I did it. I hope DMXX doesn't mind, but I quoted some of the instructions he gave me.

1) Open up the MDLPOracle2.Rdata calculator in R. I went to the toolbar of R, and clicked on File --> Load Workspace. You will find the MDLPOracle2.Rdata in the folder you downloaded titled "Oracle."

2) Use the command "MOracle2(c(value string))" with your calculator values in the value string bracket. So for you, it would be "MOracle2(c(0, 0.14, 18.22, 0, 0.2, 0, 0.31, 15.62, 0, 0.78, 0, 0, 0.05, 6.16, 7.04, 1.54, 0.45, 0, 0.95, 38.12, 0.42, 2.82, 0.73, 1.08, 0.14, 1.77, 3.46))".

3) Hit enter, and it'll give you the top 10 best single population matches.

4) For mixed mode results, copy that original equation, and in-between the last two brackets, add ", mixedmode=T". For you, it would be "MOracle2(c(0, 0.14, 18.22, 0, 0.2, 0, 0.31, 15.62, 0, 0.78, 0, 0, 0.05, 6.16, 7.04, 1.54, 0.45, 0, 0.95, 38.12, 0.42, 2.82, 0.73, 1.08, 0.14, 1.77, 3.46), mixedmode=T)".



I went ahead and ran your mom's results for you, anyway, since I already typed out the values for the instructions. I hope I didn't make a mistake when inputting her values. Double check just to make sure!

[1,] "Portuguese" "6.7492"
[2,] "Provancal" "8.636"
[3,] "Swiss" "10.1544"
[4,] "North_Italian" "10.6142"
[5,] "French" "10.7391"
[6,] "Spanish" "12.1195"
[7,] "Iberian" "12.2012"
[8,] "Corsican" "14.9004"
[9,] "North-Italian" "14.9863"
[10,] "Toscani" "16.0629"


[1,] "16.5% Kosovar + 83.5% Portuguese" "4.5045"
[2,] "15.1% Center-Greek + 84.9% Portuguese" "4.5347"
[3,] "85% Portuguese + 15% South-Greek" "4.5551"
[4,] "15.3% Greek + 84.7% Portuguese" "4.5573"
[5,] "15.1% North-Greek + 84.9% Portuguese" "4.5742"
[6,] "25.6% North-Italian + 74.4% Portuguese" "4.642"
[7,] "86% Portuguese + 14% Romanian_Jew" "4.7326"
[8,] "86% Portuguese + 14% Romanian" "4.7462"
[9,] "13.7% Gagauz + 86.3% Portuguese" "4.7625"
[10,] "86.6% Portuguese + 13.4% Romaniann" "4.7627"

Sangarius
08-10-2013, 11:57 AM
K27 Final Admixture Proportions, sorted from big to small

Caucasian-Near-Eastern 39,91%
Gedrosia-Caucasian 23,67%
South-West-European 9,94%
-------------------------------------
Arabic 6,10%
North-European-Baltic 5,43%
East-Siberean 2,10%
Kalash 1,95%
Tibeto-Burman 1,90%
North-African 1,87%
Ancestral-South-Indian 1,85%
Australo-Melanesian 1,21%
-------------------------------------
Uralic 0,90%
Austronesian 0,87%
Baltic-Finnic 0,58%
Papuan-Australian 0,40%
Cushitic 0,39%
Ancestral-Yayoi 0,28%
South-Meso-Amerindian 0,23%
Congo-Pygmean 0,13%
Bushmen 0,12%
Central-African-Pygmean 0,09%
North-Circumpolar 0,03%
Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers 0,02%
Bantu 0,01%
Nilotic-Omotic 0,00%
Nilo-Saharian 0,00%
North-Amerindian 0,00%


Oracle

[1,] "Turk" "5.2977"
[2,] "Armenian" "6.374"
[3,] "Georgian-Jewtat" "11.1701"
[4,] "Azeri_Jew" "11.7312"
[5,] "Azeri-Jew" "11.9697"
[6,] "Greek_Azov" "12.1102"
[7,] "Azeri" "12.2337"
[8,] "Cirkassian" "13.3386"
[9,] "Cypriot" "13.49"
[10,] "Iranian_Jew" "13.8461"

Mixedmode
[1,] "22.7% Cypriot + 77.3% Turk" "3.6756"
[2,] "89.6% Armenian + 10.4% S1" "4.0069"
[3,] "54.5% Azeri + 45.5% Island-Greek" "4.1188"
[4,] "91.8% Armenian + 8.2% Sardinian" "4.1228"
[5,] "56.8% Cypriot + 43.2% Ossetian" "4.2364"
[6,] "18.8% Island-Greek + 81.2% Turk" "4.2409"
[7,] "51.5% Abhasian + 48.5% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "4.2472"
[8,] "55.3% Cypriot + 44.7% Kumyk" "4.3284"
[9,] "6.5% S1 + 93.5% Turk" "4.374"
[10,] "52.8% Azeri + 47.2% Cypriot" "4.4313"

J Man
08-10-2013, 03:32 PM
Okay so the PWC hunter-gatherers from Sweden score highest in the North-European-Baltic component and the La Brana sample scores highest in the Baltic-Finnic component so I think it is probably safe to say that these two components are derived mostly from the old Mesolithic populations of Europe. Now I wonder which components GOK4 the TRB farmer from Sweden and Oetzi would score highest in?

Biloo
08-14-2013, 05:24 AM
Admix Results (sorted):

Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 32.21%
Near_East 26.86%
Sub-Saharian 13.7%
West-Asian 12.99%
North-East-European 10.13%
Samoedic 1.4%
East-Siberean 0.86%
Indo-Tibetan 0.64%
North-Siberean 0.55%
Austronesian 0.31%
North-European-Mesolithic 0.28%
South-African 0.06%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Morocco (derived) 14.12
2 Jew_Algeria (derived) 15.42
3 Ashkenazim (derived) 15.67
4 Jew_Libya (derived) 15.91
5 Jew_Tunisia (derived) 16.23
6 Jew_Italia (derived) 16.71
7 Jew_Francestrale (derived) 16.81
8 Sephardim (derived) 17.32
9 Sicilian (derived) 18.4
10 Jew_Romania (derived) 19.89
11 Mozabite (derived) 20.02
12 Italian-South (derived) 20.43
13 Greek_Cretan (derived) 20.46
14 Italian-Center (derived) 21.3
15 Costanoan (derived) 21.65
16 Jordanian (derived) 21.73
17 Greek_East (derived) 21.75
18 Jew_Syria (derived) 22.04
19 Puerto-Rican (derived) 22.25
20 Ashkenazim_V (derived) 22.39


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.3% Greek_East (derived) + 48.7% Moroccan (derived) @ 2.52
2 58.7% Mozabite (derived) + 41.3% Tatar_Crim (derived) @ 2.77
3 53.5% Jew_Romania (derived) + 46.5% Moroccan (derived) @ 2.86
4 50.4% Greek_Center (derived) + 49.6% Moroccan (derived) @ 2.89
5 57.9% Mozabite (derived) + 42.1% Greek_Azov (derived) @ 3.09
6 51.3% Moroccan (derived) + 48.7% Greek_North (derived) @ 3.41
7 50.2% Moroccan (derived) + 49.8% Greek_South (derived) @ 3.71
8 51.8% Italian-Center (derived) + 48.2% Moroccan (derived) @ 3.93
9 52.9% Italian-South (derived) + 47.1% Moroccan (derived) @ 4.14
10 52.9% Greek_Cretan (derived) + 47.1% Moroccan (derived) @ 4.26

Humanist
08-14-2013, 08:04 PM
My values v. DMXX:


DMX HUM Component
0.0 0.0 Nilotic-Omotic
5.7 3.2 Ancestral-South-Indian
7.3 1.8 North-European-Baltic
0.7 0.0 Uralic
0.4 0.5 Australo-Melanesian
1.4 0.6 East-Siberean
0.3 0.0 Ancestral-Yayoi
28.2 36.2 Caucasian-Near-Eastern
2.4 0.2 Tibeto-Burman
0.0 0.0 Austronesian
0.0 0.0 Central-African-Pygmean
0.1 0.0 Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers
1.1 0.0 Nilo-Saharian
0.0 1.7 North-African
27.0 27.0 Gedrosia-Caucasian
2.3 4.3 Cushitic
0.3 0.0 Congo-Pygmean
0.0 0.4 Bushmen
0.0 0.0 South-Meso-Amerindian
6.0 8.0 South-West-European
1.2 0.3 North-Amerindian
10.5 14.5 Arabic
0.4 0.0 North-Circumpolar
4.0 1.4 Kalash
0.4 0.0 Papuan-Australian
0.5 0.0 Baltic-Finnic
0.1 0.0 Bantu

Components, in descending order by the difference between the two (Blue Bold = DMXX > Humanist):


Diff. Component
8.1 Caucasian-Near-Eastern
5.5 North-European-Baltic
4.0 Arabic
2.6 Kalash
2.5 Ancestral-South-Indian
2.3 Tibeto-Burman
2.1 South-West-European
2.0 Cushitic
1.7 North-African
1.1 Nilo-Saharian
0.8 North-Amerindian
0.8 East-Siberean
0.7 Uralic
0.5 Baltic-Finnic
0.4 North-Circumpolar
0.4 Bushmen
0.4 Papuan-Australian
0.3 Ancestral-Yayoi
0.3 Congo-Pygmean
0.1 Australo-Melanesian
0.1 Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers
0.1 Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.1 Bantu


EDIT:

As expected, based on the available reference populations, my "best" matches are with eastern Mizrahim populations:


[1,] "Georgian-Jewtat" "6.6228"
[2,] "Iranian_Jew" "7.1127"
[3,] "Azeri_Jew" "7.198"
[4,] "Iraq_Jew" "8.4276"
[5,] "Azeri-Jew" "9.5189"
[6,] "Armenian" "10.7954"
[7,] "Syrian" "10.8443"
[8,] "Kurd" "10.9848"
[9,] "Iranian" "11.0958"
[10,] "Turk" "11.4467"

Hello, R1b. :P Some of these are not very consistent with previous "mix" predictions. Then again, this is a unique admix run.


[1,] "66.7% Georgian-Jewtat + 33.3% Iranian" "4.2075"
[2,] "23.3% Brahui + 76.7% Druze" "4.3252"
[3,] "8.6% British + 91.4% Iranian_Jew" "4.3498"
[4,] "91.7% Iranian_Jew + 8.3% Orcadian" "4.3806"
[5,] "7% French_Basque + 93% Iranian_Jew" "4.4087"
[6,] "93.1% Iranian_Jew + 6.9% Spanish_Basque" "4.4396"
[7,] "83% Iraq_Jew + 17% Tadjik" "4.4439"
[8,] "91.4% Iranian_Jew + 8.6% North-West-European" "4.449"
[9,] "9.7% French + 90.3% Iranian_Jew" "4.4682"
[10,] "89.6% Iranian_Jew + 10.4% Provancal" "4.502"

ilmari
08-16-2013, 03:43 AM
Thanks for the data analysis, here are my results:

----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------
0.00% Nilotic-Omotic
0.00% Ancestral-South-Indi
31.32% North-European-Balti
5.15% Uralic
0.07% Australo-Melanesian
0.71% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
0.62% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.27% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% Austronesian
0.27% Central-African-Pygm
0.00% Central-African-Hunt
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
0.34% North-African
4.81% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.34% Cushitic
0.34% Congo-Pygmean
0.29% Bushmen
0.00% South-Meso-Amerindia
10.37% South-West-European
0.00% North-Amerindian
0.01% Arabic
1.54% North-Circumpolar
1.18% Kalash
0.76% Papuan-Australian
41.56% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu

===============

Single pop sharing
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Inkeri" "11.249"
[2,] "Karelian" "11.4291"
[3,] "Finn" "12.9797"
[4,] "South_Finn" "15.2282"
[5,] "Vepsa" "17.5339"
[6,] "Finland" "19.8593"
[7,] "Swedish" "34.8917"
[8,] "North-Russian" "35.3771"
[9,] "Aleut" "37.4793"
[10,] "German" "38.8466"

====================

Two population sharing
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "74% Finn + 26% Swedish" "4.6365"
[2,] "25.6% North_German + 74.4% South_Finn" "4.6524"
[3,] "77.7% Finn + 22.3% North_German" "4.7302"
[4,] "70.5% South_Finn + 29.5% Swedish" "4.7972"
[5,] "27.2% German + 72.8% South_Finn" "4.949"
[6,] "79.9% Finn + 20.1% Orcadian" "5.0775"
[7,] "68.7% Finland + 31.3% North_German" "5.1014"
[8,] "76.3% Finn + 23.7% German" "5.1154"
[9,] "88.1% Inkeri + 11.9% Spanish_Basque" "5.1296"
[10,] "11.8% French_Basque + 88.2% Inkeri" "5.2157"

ajaxknight
09-12-2013, 04:49 PM
[1,] "55% Romanian_Jew + 45% Welsh" "1.5088"
[2,] "40.3% Orcadian + 59.7% Romanian_Jew" "1.5759"
[3,] "44.3% N._European + 55.7% Romanian_Jew" "1.5941"
[4,] "43.6% North-West-European + 56.4% Romanian_Jew" "1.852"
[5,] "38.6% SephardicTurk + 61.4% South_German" "1.8935"
[6,] "40.8% Sephardic_Bulgaria + 59.2% South_German" "2.2028"
[7,] "44.6% Romanian_Jew_ + 55.4% South_German" "2.2457"
[8,] "41.6% British + 58.4% Romanian_Jew" "2.3087"
[9,] "50.3% Ashkenazi + 49.7% Swedish" "2.3261"
[10,] "46.5% North_German + 53.5% Romanian_Jew_" "2.4494"
[11,] "50.4% North_German + 49.6% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "2.5638"
[12,] "46.3% Cretan + 53.7% Swedish" "2.5958"
[13,] "52.7% North_German + 47.3% SephardicTurk" "2.6997"
[14,] "45.8% Island-Greek + 54.2% Swedish" "2.7403"
[15,] "52.8% Romanian_Jew_ + 47.2% Swedish" "2.8221"
[16,] "53.6% Austrian + 46.4% West-Sicilian" "2.9881"
[17,] "66.4% Swiss + 33.6% Tatar_Crim" "2.9948"
[18,] "38.8% Morocco_Jew + 61.2% South_German" "3.0331"
[19,] "40.9% Cypriot + 59.1% Swedish" "3.0525"
[20,] "59.1% Austrian + 40.9% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.0912"

AJL
09-12-2013, 11:05 PM
[1,] "55% Romanian_Jew + 45% Welsh" "1.5088"
[2,] "40.3% Orcadian + 59.7% Romanian_Jew" "1.5759"
[3,] "44.3% N._European + 55.7% Romanian_Jew" "1.5941"
[4,] "43.6% North-West-European + 56.4% Romanian_Jew" "1.852"
[5,] "38.6% SephardicTurk + 61.4% South_German" "1.8935"
[6,] "40.8% Sephardic_Bulgaria + 59.2% South_German" "2.2028"
[7,] "44.6% Romanian_Jew_ + 55.4% South_German" "2.2457"
[8,] "41.6% British + 58.4% Romanian_Jew" "2.3087"
[9,] "50.3% Ashkenazi + 49.7% Swedish" "2.3261"
[10,] "46.5% North_German + 53.5% Romanian_Jew_" "2.4494"
[11,] "50.4% North_German + 49.6% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "2.5638"
[12,] "46.3% Cretan + 53.7% Swedish" "2.5958"
[13,] "52.7% North_German + 47.3% SephardicTurk" "2.6997"
[14,] "45.8% Island-Greek + 54.2% Swedish" "2.7403"
[15,] "52.8% Romanian_Jew_ + 47.2% Swedish" "2.8221"
[16,] "53.6% Austrian + 46.4% West-Sicilian" "2.9881"
[17,] "66.4% Swiss + 33.6% Tatar_Crim" "2.9948"
[18,] "38.8% Morocco_Jew + 61.2% South_German" "3.0331"
[19,] "40.9% Cypriot + 59.1% Swedish" "3.0525"
[20,] "59.1% Austrian + 40.9% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.0912"

Welcome to Anthrogenica.

Are any of these accurate as compared to your known ancestry?

AJL
09-12-2013, 11:06 PM
Thanks for the data analysis, here are my results:

----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------
0.00% Nilotic-Omotic
0.00% Ancestral-South-Indi
31.32% North-European-Balti
5.15% Uralic
0.07% Australo-Melanesian
0.71% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
0.62% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.27% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% Austronesian
0.27% Central-African-Pygm
0.00% Central-African-Hunt
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
0.34% North-African
4.81% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.34% Cushitic
0.34% Congo-Pygmean
0.29% Bushmen
0.00% South-Meso-Amerindia
10.37% South-West-European
0.00% North-Amerindian
0.01% Arabic
1.54% North-Circumpolar
1.18% Kalash
0.76% Papuan-Australian
41.56% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu

===============

Single pop sharing
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Inkeri" "11.249"
[2,] "Karelian" "11.4291"
[3,] "Finn" "12.9797"
[4,] "South_Finn" "15.2282"
[5,] "Vepsa" "17.5339"
[6,] "Finland" "19.8593"
[7,] "Swedish" "34.8917"
[8,] "North-Russian" "35.3771"
[9,] "Aleut" "37.4793"
[10,] "German" "38.8466"

====================

Two population sharing
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "74% Finn + 26% Swedish" "4.6365"
[2,] "25.6% North_German + 74.4% South_Finn" "4.6524"
[3,] "77.7% Finn + 22.3% North_German" "4.7302"
[4,] "70.5% South_Finn + 29.5% Swedish" "4.7972"
[5,] "27.2% German + 72.8% South_Finn" "4.949"
[6,] "79.9% Finn + 20.1% Orcadian" "5.0775"
[7,] "68.7% Finland + 31.3% North_German" "5.1014"
[8,] "76.3% Finn + 23.7% German" "5.1154"
[9,] "88.1% Inkeri + 11.9% Spanish_Basque" "5.1296"
[10,] "11.8% French_Basque + 88.2% Inkeri" "5.2157"

What, no Mestizo? :P

ajaxknight
09-13-2013, 12:43 AM
Welcome to Anthrogenica.

Are any of these accurate as compared to your known ancestry?

Thank you and yes I am half Russian Jew half North West Euro mutt.

ilmari
09-13-2013, 08:04 PM
What, no Mestizo? :P
Hey, I have Pygmy!

rms2
09-15-2013, 12:45 AM
Here's what I just got for MDLP World-22 Admixture Proportions:

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 5.76%
North-European-Mesolithic 6.38%
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican -
Arctic-Amerind -
South-America_Amerind 0.58%
Indian 0.31%
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 33.62%
Samoedic 0.41%
Indo-Iranian 1.71%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 49.76%
South-African 0.32%
North-Amerind -
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 1.07%
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian 0.08%

Here's the pie chart:

680

My highest tally is North-East-European. Hmmm . . .

Here is more:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 CEU_V (derived) 1.99
2 German_V (derived) 3.31
3 Welsh (derived) 4.03
4 Austrian (derived) 4.58
5 Swedish (derived) 4.85
6 Norwegian_V (derived) 4.91
7 CEU (derived) 4.93
8 German-North (derived) 5.33
9 British (derived) 6.03
10 German (derived) 6.56
11 Hungarian (derived) 6.57
12 Orcadian (derived) 6.7
13 Slovenian (derived) 7.25
14 Swedish_V (derived) 7.62
15 Croatian (derived) 8.78
16 German-South (derived) 8.89
17 Czech (derived) 9.86
18 Bosnian (derived) 9.87
19 Serbian (derived) 10.62
20 Croatian_V (derived) 11.38

Fascinating.

rms2
09-15-2013, 01:02 AM
The Single Population Sharing result is interesting. The "CEU_V" thing is not all that helpful, since I understand that is "White Americans from Utah - 5". Aside from that, my top results were "German_V" and "Welsh".

The Welsh result makes sense, since I think my y-dna line is probably Welsh. I don't know of any German ancestry in my family tree. I do have some Dutch on my father's side, but it's pretty far back: a fourth great grandmother.

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 CEU_V (derived) 1.99
2 German_V (derived) 3.31
3 Welsh (derived) 4.03
4 Austrian (derived) 4.58
5 Swedish (derived) 4.85
6 Norwegian_V (derived) 4.91
7 CEU (derived) 4.93
8 German-North (derived) 5.33
9 British (derived) 6.03
10 German (derived) 6.56
11 Hungarian (derived) 6.57
12 Orcadian (derived) 6.7
13 Slovenian (derived) 7.25
14 Swedish_V (derived) 7.62
15 Croatian (derived) 8.78
16 German-South (derived) 8.89
17 Czech (derived) 9.86
18 Bosnian (derived) 9.87
19 Serbian (derived) 10.62
20 Croatian_V (derived) 11.38

Here's my "Mixed Mode Population Sharing", which I'm not sure I understand.

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.5% German_V (derived) + 39.5% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 1.06
2 98.2% CEU_V (derived) + 1.8% Bra1 (derived) @ 1.19
3 98.4% CEU_V (derived) + 1.6% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 1.2
4 98.2% CEU_V (derived) + 1.8% Bra2 (derived) @ 1.23
5 79.4% CEU (derived) + 20.6% Ukrainian-Center (derived) @ 1.25
6 98% CEU_V (derived) + 2% Saami (derived) @ 1.27
7 78.9% CEU (derived) + 21.1% Ukrainian_V (derived) @ 1.31
8 85.3% Swedish (derived) + 14.7% Kosovar (derived) @ 1.32
9 57.5% CEU (derived) + 42.5% German (derived) @ 1.34
10 76.6% CEU_V (derived) + 23.4% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 1.37
11 65.4% Swedish (derived) + 34.6% German-South (derived) @ 1.39
12 81.9% CEU (derived) + 18.1% Ukrainian-East (derived) @ 1.42
13 77.8% CEU (derived) + 22.2% Ukrainian-West (derived) @ 1.44
14 52.2% British (derived) + 47.8% German (derived) @ 1.45
15 82.5% CEU (derived) + 17.5% Russian_South (derived) @ 1.48
16 82.1% CEU (derived) + 17.9% Russian_V (derived) @ 1.5
17 52.1% CEU (derived) + 47.9% German-North (derived) @ 1.53
18 79.9% Swedish (derived) + 20.1% Italian_North (derived) @ 1.55
19 82.4% CEU (derived) + 17.6% Ukrainian (derived) @ 1.59
20 84.9% Swedish (derived) + 15.1% Italian-North (derived) @ 1.61

rms2
09-15-2013, 01:18 AM
I was just looking at the MDLP blog (http://magnusducatus.blogspot.com/2012/09/behind-curtains-mdlp-world-22-showcase.html), and there is a post there from pconroy, whose results were very similar to mine, yet all 8 of his great grandparents were Irish.

AJL
09-15-2013, 02:26 PM
I was just looking at the MDLP blog (http://magnusducatus.blogspot.com/2012/09/behind-curtains-mdlp-world-22-showcase.html), and there is a post there from pconroy, whose results were very similar to mine, yet all 8 of his great grandparents were Irish.

MDLP is really best suited for Eastern and Central Europeans. None of these tools is completely inaccurate, but all are developed with specific regions in mind. Because the components/models are developed for those regions, as you get farther, they get a little less accurate.

Solothurn
09-15-2013, 04:13 PM
I think most Brits/Irish and other 'Orcadians' have similar results using the MDLP. As said, it is more suited for more Eastern Europeans than for Western.

I like 'playing' around with the admixture programs and even though my close relatives have similar results we get different Oracle Mixed Mode Population Sharing results using the MDLP World-22.

Me
85.5% Swedish (derived) + 14.5% Italian-South (derived)

Mum
96.7% German_V (derived) + 3.3% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral)

Paternal Cousin
76.8% Swedish (derived) + 23.2% Kosovar (derived)

Paternal Cousin 1R
78.1% German_V (derived) + 21.9% British (derived)

BTW all British :)














I was just looking at the MDLP blog (http://magnusducatus.blogspot.com/2012/09/behind-curtains-mdlp-world-22-showcase.html), and there is a post there from pconroy, whose results were very similar to mine, yet all 8 of his great grandparents were Irish.

rms2
09-15-2013, 07:10 PM
MDLP is really best suited for Eastern and Central Europeans. None of these tools is completely inaccurate, but all are developed with specific regions in mind. Because the components/models are developed for those regions, as you get farther, they get a little less accurate.

I kind of figured as much. I regard anything in the world comparison below 1% as noise, too.

I think the "Wales" result in the single population comparison is probably the most accurate piece of information (other than my autosomal proximity to other White people in Utah, that is :D ).

AJL
09-15-2013, 08:36 PM
I kind of figured as much. I regard anything in the world comparison below 1% as noise, too.

That's usually the best approach unless you receive the same low-level signals from multiple tests, in which case it might be worth investigating.

My mother gets Welsh only 8th, but it features in all but a few of her top 20 in mixed mode.

Dr_McNinja
09-16-2013, 01:19 AM
Where are you guys getting the K27 calculator from?

AJL
09-16-2013, 03:36 AM
Where are you guys getting the K27 calculator from?

I was running the K22 on Gedmatch.

Dr_McNinja
09-16-2013, 05:17 AM
I found the K27 one here: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?89576-New-MDLP-Calculator

I posted my results here: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?1269-Somewhat-unusual-results-for-my-group&p=13800#post13800

Wondering if anyone could shed some light on the Siberian/Amerindian components? I've been consistently getting slightly high Siberian (across all calculators). What is Samoyedic in MDLP World-22 and what would that be equivalent to in the K27 beta?

And do any calculators use a Turkic-Mongolic/Altaic component? (I am wondering if that's the origin of these ancestral northeast Asian components in someone who is otherwise mostly South Indian/Gedrosian in admixture). I think one of the MDLP ones did, but it seemed like a generic replacement for Caucasus or West Asian or something since I got like 29% of it.

jessk031
10-01-2013, 09:27 PM
I enjoy seeing how admix & oracle results compare with actual ethnicities, so I'll add mine to the list.

MDLP-22 for myself (25% N. Italian/25% Lebanese/12.5% Danish/remainder English), only everything over 1%:

1 Atlantic Mediterranean Neolithic 35.77
2 North East European 32.31
3 West Asian 15.47
4 Near East 13.04
5 North European Mesolithic 1.42
6 Indian 1.34

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 German_V + Jew_Iraqi + Sardinian + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.215
2 Italian_North + Jew_Azerbaijan + Latvian + Sardinian @ 1.278
3 Italian_North + Jew-Uzbekistan + Lithuanian_V + Sardinian @ 1.313
4 Austrian + Jew_Iraqi + Sardinian + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.335
5 Italian_North + Jew_Tat + Latvian + Sardinian @ 1.365

pconroy
10-11-2013, 05:53 AM
Here are my results - all 8 Great-Grandparents born in Ireland:

0.62% Nilotic-Omotic
0.00% Ancestral-South-Indi
33.53% North-European-Balti
1.68% Uralic
0.27% Australo-Melanesian
0.00% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
4.45% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.02% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygm
0.50% Central-African-Hunt
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
0.00% North-African
12.28% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.00% Cushitic
0.12% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Bushmen
0.21% South-Meso-Amerindia
34.91% South-West-European
0.31% North-Amerindian
0.41% Arabic
0.00% North-Circumpolar
2.40% Kalash
0.17% Papuan-Australian
8.12% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu

> load('MDLPOracle2.RData')
> MOracle2(c(0.62,0.00,33.53,1.68,0.27,0.00,0.00,4.4 5,0.00,0.02,0.00,0.50,0.00,0.00,12.28,0.00,0.12,0. 00,0.21,34.91,0.31,0.41,0.00,2.40,0.17,8.12,0.00), k=20,mixedmode=T)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "3.3% North_Finn + 96.7% Welsh" "2.2006"
[2,] "4.8% South_Finn + 95.2% Welsh" "2.2198"
[3,] "5.2% Inkeri + 94.8% Welsh" "2.243"
[4,] "4.5% Finland + 95.5% Welsh" "2.2477"
[5,] "5% Finn + 95% Welsh" "2.2527"
[6,] "3.9% Saami + 96.1% Welsh" "2.2736"
[7,] "94.4% N._European + 5.6% Stalskoe" "2.3226"
[8,] "92.9% North-West-European + 7.1% Vepsa" "2.3769"
[9,] "8.4% North-Russian + 91.6% North-West-European" "2.395"
[10,] "5.2% Karelian + 94.8% Welsh" "2.4334"
[11,] "5% Lak + 95% N._European" "2.4943"
[12,] "4.9% Lezgin + 95.1% N._European" "2.4964"
[13,] "4.9% Chechen + 95.1% N._European" "2.5073"
[14,] "3.8% Georgian + 96.2% N._European" "2.511"
[15,] "95.7% N._European + 4.3% Ossetian" "2.5171"
[16,] "94.9% N._European + 5.1% Urkarah" "2.5196"
[17,] "3.8% Abhasian + 96.2% N._European" "2.5204"
[18,] "3.6% Georgian_Imereti + 96.4% N._European" "2.5407"
[19,] "4.8% Kumyk + 95.2% N._European" "2.5438"
[20,] "95.5% N._European + 4.5% North-Ossetian" "2.5454"

pconroy
10-11-2013, 06:14 AM
Here are my results - all 8 Great-Grandparents born in Ireland:

0.62% Nilotic-Omotic
0.00% Ancestral-South-Indi
33.53% North-European-Balti
1.68% Uralic
0.27% Australo-Melanesian
0.00% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
4.45% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.02% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygm
0.50% Central-African-Hunt
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
0.00% North-African
12.28% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.00% Cushitic
0.12% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Bushmen
0.21% South-Meso-Amerindia
34.91% South-West-European
0.31% North-Amerindian
0.41% Arabic
0.00% North-Circumpolar
2.40% Kalash
0.17% Papuan-Australian
8.12% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu

> load('MDLPOracle2.RData')
> MOracle2(c(0.62,0.00,33.53,1.68,0.27,0.00,0.00,4.4 5,0.00,0.02,0.00,0.50,0.00,0.00,12.28,0.00,0.12,0. 00,0.21,34.91,0.31,0.41,0.00,2.40,0.17,8.12,0.00), k=20,mixedmode=T)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "3.3% North_Finn + 96.7% Welsh" "2.2006"
[2,] "4.8% South_Finn + 95.2% Welsh" "2.2198"
[3,] "5.2% Inkeri + 94.8% Welsh" "2.243"
[4,] "4.5% Finland + 95.5% Welsh" "2.2477"
[5,] "5% Finn + 95% Welsh" "2.2527"
[6,] "3.9% Saami + 96.1% Welsh" "2.2736"
[7,] "94.4% N._European + 5.6% Stalskoe" "2.3226"
[8,] "92.9% North-West-European + 7.1% Vepsa" "2.3769"
[9,] "8.4% North-Russian + 91.6% North-West-European" "2.395"
[10,] "5.2% Karelian + 94.8% Welsh" "2.4334"
[11,] "5% Lak + 95% N._European" "2.4943"
[12,] "4.9% Lezgin + 95.1% N._European" "2.4964"
[13,] "4.9% Chechen + 95.1% N._European" "2.5073"
[14,] "3.8% Georgian + 96.2% N._European" "2.511"
[15,] "95.7% N._European + 4.3% Ossetian" "2.5171"
[16,] "94.9% N._European + 5.1% Urkarah" "2.5196"
[17,] "3.8% Abhasian + 96.2% N._European" "2.5204"
[18,] "3.6% Georgian_Imereti + 96.4% N._European" "2.5407"
[19,] "4.8% Kumyk + 95.2% N._European" "2.5438"
[20,] "95.5% N._European + 4.5% North-Ossetian" "2.5454"

pconroy
10-11-2013, 06:17 AM
Here are the results of my Sicilian grandmother-in-law, who on some analyses seems Jewish, though she has no known Jewish ancestry:


0.00% Nilotic-Omotic
0.30% Ancestral-South-Indi
12.82% North-European-Balti
0.00% Uralic
0.00% Australo-Melanesian
0.00% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
31.39% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygm
0.80% Central-African-Hunt
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
5.04% North-African
11.72% Gedrosia-Caucasian
2.07% Cushitic
0.00% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Bushmen
0.00% South-Meso-Amerindia
21.25% South-West-European
0.52% North-Amerindian
10.92% Arabic
0.00% North-Circumpolar
1.83% Kalash
0.64% Papuan-Australian
0.72% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu

> MOracle2(c(0.00,0.30,12.82,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,31. 39,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.00,5.04,11.72,2.07,0.00,0 .00,0.00,21.25,0.52,10.92,0.00,1.83,0.64,0.72,0.00 ),k=20)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Romanian_Jew_" "5.803"
[2,] "West-Sicilian" "7.1946"
[3,] "Center-Italian" "7.4287"
[4,] "Sephardic_Bulgaria" "8.3788"
[5,] "South_Italian" "8.5766"
[6,] "Romanian_Jew" "8.9853"
[7,] "South-Sicilian" "9.0851"
[8,] "Ashkenazi" "9.1921"
[9,] "SephardicBul" "9.5915"
[10,] "SephardicTurk" "10.0527"
[11,] "Center-Sicilian" "10.1603"
[12,] "Greek" "10.3914"
[13,] "Center-Greek" "11.1449"
[14,] "Morocco_Jew" "11.163"
[15,] "South-Greek" "12.0249"
[16,] "Island-Greek" "12.6812"
[17,] "Cretan" "13.0424"
[18,] "Tuscan" "13.7348"
[19,] "North-Italian" "14.9085"
[20,] "Toscani" "15.0262"

> load('MDLPOracle2.RData')
> MOracle2(c(0.00,0.30,12.82,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,31. 39,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.00,5.04,11.72,2.07,0.00,0 .00,0.00,21.25,0.52,10.92,0.00,1.83,0.64,0.72,0.00 ),k=20,mixedmode=T)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "18.5% North_German + 81.5% SephardicTurk" "2.9366"
[2,] "21.6% Austrian + 78.4% SephardicTurk" "2.9382"
[3,] "78.5% SephardicTurk + 21.5% South_German" "2.9593"
[4,] "48.2% Samaritian + 51.8% Swiss" "3.399"
[5,] "21.1% Hungarian + 78.9% SephardicTurk" "3.4234"
[6,] "83.9% Sephardic_Bulgaria + 16.1% Slovenian" "3.4922"
[7,] "88.1% Sephardic_Bulgaria + 11.9% Sorb" "3.5183"
[8,] "85.3% Sephardic_Bulgaria + 14.7% Slovak" "3.556"
[9,] "86.5% Sephardic_Bulgaria + 13.5% West-Ukrainian" "3.5743"
[10,] "80.9% SephardicTurk + 19.1% Slovenian" "3.6286"
[11,] "14.7% Czech + 85.3% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.6411"
[12,] "10.1% Lithuanian + 89.9% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.6618"
[13,] "17.5% Czech + 82.5% SephardicTurk" "3.6941"
[14,] "12.3% East-Ukrainian + 87.7% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.7132"
[15,] "9.4% Latvian + 90.6% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.7139"
[16,] "12.1% Russian_cossack + 87.9% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.727"
[17,] "18.6% N._European + 81.4% SephardicTurk" "3.7307"
[18,] "17.4% Croatian + 82.6% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.7431"
[19,] "11.5% Belarusian + 88.5% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.7441"
[20,] "11.8% Pole + 88.2% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "3.7444"

Sapporo
10-11-2013, 10:21 PM
MDLP World-22 Oracle results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 35.78
2 Indian 31.98
3 North-East-European 10.75
4 Indo-Iranian 8.34
5 Samoedic 3.19
6 North-European-Mesolithic 2.57
7 Near_East 1.84
8 North-Amerind 1.82
9 Indo-Tibetan 1.45
10 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 1.41
11 East-Siberean 0.51
12 South-America_Amerind 0.34
13 Mesoamerican 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan (derived) 6.52
2 Burusho (derived) 6.88
3 Sindhi (derived) 11.02
4 Balochi (derived) 14.25
5 Pashtun (derived) 14.27
6 Jew_India (derived) 17.12
7 Brahui (derived) 18.79
8 Makrani (derived) 19.09
9 Tadjik (derived) 20.14
10 Parsi (derived) 21.03
11 Hindu (derived) 25.37
12 Turkmen (derived) 27.1
13 Roma (derived) 27.97
14 Uzbek (derived) 31.47
15 Iranian (derived) 33.15
16 Indian (derived) 33.64
17 Nogai (derived) 33.82
18 Kumyk (derived) 33.85
19 Hazara (derived) 34.06
20 Azeri (derived) 34.07

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.4% Pathan (derived) + 13.6% Indian (derived) @ 3.83
2 82.8% Pathan (derived) + 17.2% Hindu (derived) @ 3.93
3 93.1% Pathan (derived) + 6.9% Indian (ancestral) @ 4.01
4 64.7% Pashtun (derived) + 35.3% Hindu (derived) @ 4.17
5 83.6% Pashtun (derived) + 16.4% Indian (ancestral) @ 4.49
6 56% Tadjik (derived) + 44% Hindu (derived) @ 4.54
7 79.6% Pathan (derived) + 20.4% Jew_India (derived) @ 4.99
8 57.9% Hindu (derived) + 42.1% Tabassaran (derived) @ 5.3
9 58.2% Hindu (derived) + 41.8% Lak (derived) @ 5.41
10 59% Hindu (derived) + 41% Avar (derived) @ 5.51
11 55.3% Pathan (derived) + 44.7% Burusho (derived) @ 5.78
12 58.2% Hindu (derived) + 41.8% Lezgin (derived) @ 5.86
13 96.2% Burusho (derived) + 3.8% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 5.9
14 95.6% Burusho (derived) + 4.4% Lithuanian (derived) @ 5.94
15 95.3% Burusho (derived) + 4.7% Belarusian (derived) @ 5.94
16 95.5% Burusho (derived) + 4.5% Lithuanian_V (derived) @ 5.96
17 95.6% Burusho (derived) + 4.4% Latvian (derived) @ 5.98
18 95.4% Burusho (derived) + 4.6% Russian (derived) @ 6.01
19 95.3% Burusho (derived) + 4.7% Polish (derived) @ 6.01
20 95.2% Burusho (derived) + 4.8% Polish_V (derived) @ 6.01

Population Averages:

https://docs.google.com/a/scu.edu/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqn7iMc2P-yQdEItR3hlYzVVSE5yQjBkUzBzT1E5Ymc#gid=0

ZephyrousMandaru
10-12-2013, 04:15 PM
MDLP K=27

0.57% Nilotic-Omotic
0.70% Ancestral-South-Indian
0.44% North-European-Baltic
1.02% Uralic
0.27% Australo-Melanesian
0.06% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
40.62% Caucasian-Near-Eastern
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygmean
0.03% Central-African-Hunter
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
2.14% North-African
26.21% Gedrosia-Caucasian
3.25% Cushitic
0.00% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Bushmen
0.00% South-Meso-Amerindian
8.36% South-West-European
0.00% North-Amerindian
13.57% Arabic
0.00% North-Circumpolar
2.09% Kalash
0.67% Papuan-Australian
0.00% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu

Oracle

[1,] "Georgian-Jewtat" "3.8778"
[2,] "Iranian_Jew" "5.4814"
[3,] "Azeri_Jew" "5.8867"
[4,] "Iraq_Jew" "6.6957"
[5,] "Azeri-Jew" "7.4084"
[6,] "Armenian" "9.3175"
[7,] "Druze" "11.0517"
[8,] "Turk" "11.9861"
[9,] "Syrian" "12.7444"
[10,] "Lebanese" "12.7879"
[11,] "Azeri" "13.5161"
[12,] "Kurd" "13.5986"
[13,] "Cypriot" "14.805"
[14,] "Iranian" "15.5448"
[15,] "Jordanian" "16.3838"
[16,] "Palestinian" "16.6871"
[17,] "Samaritian" "17.4186"
[18,] "Island-Greek" "18.4946"
[19,] "Greek_Azov" "18.8345"
[20,] "Georgian_Laz" "18.8527"

Oracle MixedMode

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "96.3% Georgian-Jewtat + 3.7% Spanish_Basque" "2.5248"
[2,] "95.2% Georgian-Jewtat + 4.8% Sardinian" "2.5496"
[3,] "3.7% French_Basque + 96.3% Georgian-Jewtat" "2.5526"
[4,] "89.4% Georgian-Jewtat + 10.6% Morocco_Jew" "2.7081"
[5,] "95.4% Georgian-Jewtat + 4.6% Iberian" "2.7864"
[6,] "94.6% Georgian-Jewtat + 5.4% S1" "2.8046"
[7,] "95.5% Georgian-Jewtat + 4.5% Spanish" "2.8261"
[8,] "6% Corsican + 94% Georgian-Jewtat" "2.86"
[9,] "91.2% Georgian-Jewtat + 8.8% South-Sicilian" "2.8942"
[10,] "95.3% Georgian-Jewtat + 4.7% Portuguese" "2.9055"
[11,] "90.1% Georgian-Jewtat + 9.9% Sephardic_Bulgaria" "2.9338"
[12,] "88.7% Georgian-Jewtat + 11.3% SephardicTurk" "2.9397"
[13,] "91.4% Georgian-Jewtat + 8.6% West-Sicilian" "2.9421"
[14,] "8.4% Center-Sicilian + 91.6% Georgian-Jewtat" "3.0213"
[15,] "93.8% Georgian-Jewtat + 6.2% Toscani" "3.031"
[16,] "94.8% Georgian-Jewtat + 5.2% North_Italian" "3.0401"
[17,] "95.4% Georgian-Jewtat + 4.6% Puerto-Rican" "3.0415"
[18,] "93.6% Georgian-Jewtat + 6.4% Tuscan" "3.0519"
[19,] "92.7% Iranian_Jew + 7.3% Sardinian" "3.0592"
[20,] "91.1% Iranian_Jew + 8.9% S1" "3.0592"
[21,] "94.1% Georgian-Jewtat + 5.9% North-Italian" "3.0906"
[22,] "7.4% Center-Italian + 92.6% Georgian-Jewtat" "3.1406"
[23,] "91.8% Georgian-Jewtat + 8.2% SephardicBul" "3.1616"
[24,] "95.7% Georgian-Jewtat + 4.3% Provancal" "3.1754"
[25,] "91.1% Georgian-Jewtat + 8.9% Romanian_Jew_" "3.1779"
[26,] "92.6% Georgian-Jewtat + 7.4% South_Italian" "3.1904"
[27,] "3.9% French + 96.1% Georgian-Jewtat" "3.1975"
[28,] "80.5% Iranian_Jew + 19.5% Island-Greek" "3.2699"
[29,] "4% Caribbean_Hispanic + 96% Georgian-Jewtat" "3.2719"
[30,] "96.1% Georgian-Jewtat + 3.9% PuertoRican" "3.2905"

ZephyrousMandaru
10-12-2013, 06:19 PM
I think the Georgian Jews and Mountain Jews are originally from further south. Georgian Jews in particular are closer to Assyrians, and even Levantines than Georgian Gentiles.

Sapporo
10-16-2013, 06:28 AM
MDLP K=27

1. 33.72% Gedrosia-Caucasian
2. 32.55% Ancestral-South-Indian
3. 10.11% North-European-Baltic
4. 5.41% Caucasian-Near-Eastern
5. 4.85% Kalash
6. 3.39% Uralic
7. 2.61% Arabic
8. 1.94% North-Amerindian
9. 1.37% Baltic-Finnic
10. 1.05% North-Circumpolar
11. 0.80% North-African
12. 0.76% East-Siberean
13. 0.71% Cushitic
14. 0.64% Australo-Melanesian
15. 0.05% Nilo-Saharian
16. 0.03% Bantu
17. 0.01% South-Meso-Amerindian

[1,] "Pathan" "5.9415"
[2,] "Pakistani" "7.421"
[3,] "Sindhi" "8.9405"
[4,] "Kashmiri" "9.2457"
[5,] "Burusho" "11.4256"
[6,] "Brahmin" "13.2967"
[7,] "Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh" "16.5657"
[8,] "Meena" "16.9271"
[9,] "Pashtun" "17.4754"
[10,] "Kurmi" "17.8473"
[11,] "Brahmin_Uttar-Pradesh" "18.014"
[12,] "Kshatriya" "18.3545"
[13,] "Marathi" "18.4844"
[14,] "Vaish" "18.9441"
[15,] "Indian_Jew" "19.4417"
[16,] "Hindi" "19.5665"
[17,] "Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin" "19.6291"
[18,] "Meghawal" "20.8029"
[19,] "Indian_Jew_" "20.873"
[20,] "TN_Brahmin" "21.696"
[21,] "Balochi" "22.4118"
[22,] "AP_Brahmin" "22.7"
[23,] "Makrani" "24.6062"
[24,] "Srivastava" "24.6153"
[25,] "Nepalese" "24.7381"
[26,] "Tadjik" "25.1791"
[27,] "Tadijk" "25.9851"
[28,] "Brahui" "26.1183"
[29,] "Parsi" "26.333"
[30,] "Gujarati-Indian" "26.4679"

Sein
10-22-2013, 08:03 PM
My MDLP World-22 Results:

West-Asian=38.85%
Indian=24.63%
North-East-European=7.77%
Indo-Iranian=6.96%
Samoedic=5.03%Near_East=4.06%
North-European-Mesolithic=3.09%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic=2.52%
Indo-Tibetan=2.02%
North-Amerind=1.43%
Paleo-Siberian=0.9%
Austronesian=0.89%
South-America_Amerind=0.79%
East-South-Asian=0.69%
North-Siberean=0.18%
Melanesian=0.1%
Mesoamerican=0.07%

Single Population Sharing:
1 Pathan (derived) 5.78
2 Burusho (derived) 8.11
3 Pashtun (derived) 8.88
4 Balochi (derived) 10.5
5 Sindhi (derived) 13.23
6 Brahui (derived) 13.97
7 Makrani (derived) 14.09
8 Tadjik (derived) 15.06
9 Parsi (derived) 15.28
10 Jew_India (derived) 21.42
11 Turkmen (derived) 21.49
12 Iranian (derived) 26.32
13 Azeri (derived) 27.07
14 Kumyk (derived) 27.44
15 Roma (derived) 27.77
16 Uzbek (derived) 28.12
17 Tabassaran (derived) 28.7
18 Lezgin (derived) 28.74
19 Kurd (derived) 28.84
20 Lak (derived) 28.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 91.2% Pathan (derived) + 8.8% Palestinian (derived) @ 3.86
2 92.3% Pathan (derived) + 7.7% Egyptian (derived) @ 3.87
3 90.8% Pathan (derived) + 9.2% Jordanian (derived) @ 3.87
4 93.1% Pathan (derived) + 6.9% Bedouin (derived) @ 3.89
5 93.4% Pathan (derived) + 6.6% Jew_Yemen (derived) @ 3.94
6 91.9% Pathan (derived) + 8.1% Samaritian (derived) @ 3.94
7 93.2% Pathan (derived) + 6.8% Saudi (derived) @ 3.97
8 91.9% Pathan (derived) + 8.1% Jew_Libya (derived) @ 3.98
9 89.9% Pathan (derived) + 10.1% Syrian (derived) @ 3.99
10 90.2% Pathan (derived) + 9.8% Lebanese (derived) @ 4.01
11 91.9% Pathan (derived) + 8.1% Yemen (derived) @ 4.02
12 91.9% Pathan (derived) + 8.1% Jew_Tunisia (derived) @ 4.06
13 89.1% Pathan (derived) + 10.9% Iraqi (derived) @ 4.07
14 94% Pathan (derived) + 6% Mozabite (derived) @ 4.1
15 92% Pathan (derived) + 8% Jew_Morocco (derived) @ 4.12
16 90.9% Pathan (derived) + 9.1% Druze (derived) @ 4.12
17 92.1% Pathan (derived) + 7.9% Jew_Algeria (derived) @ 4.14
18 90.7% Pathan (derived) + 9.3% Costanoan (derived) @ 4.14
19 91.3% Pathan (derived) + 8.7% Jew_Syria (derived) @ 4.15
20 94.2% Pathan (derived) + 5.8% Moroccan (derived) @ 4.17

Results for the K=27 calculator.
MOracle2(c(0.74,23.91,8.11,4.47,0.43,0.55,1.15,11. 02,1.74,0.00,0.00,0.58,0.08,0.00,31.64,0.35,0.32,0 .00,0.34,0.00,1.75,4.32,0.14,4.80,0.77,2.71,0.09), k=20)

[1,] "Pathan" "9.0252"
[2,] "Pashtun" "10.5442"
[3,] "Burusho" "11.7388"
[4,] "Kashmiri" "14.9185"
[5,] "Sindhi" "15.0622"
[6,] "Pakistani" "15.5484"
[7,] "Tadijk" "16.5175"
[8,] "Tadjik" "17.7686"
[9,] "Parsi" "17.8253"
[10,] "Indian_Jew_" "20.3171"
[11,] "Balochi" "20.4953"
[12,] "Makrani" "21.2417"
[13,] "Turkmenian" "21.7938"
[14,] "Brahmin" "22.2782"
[15,] "Brahui" "24.6924"
[16,] "Nepalese" "25.9224"
[17,] "Turkmen" "26.1009"
[18,] "Indian_Jew" "26.1086"
[19,] "Meena" "26.2049"
[20,] "Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh" "26.4117"

[1,] "52.7% Kashmiri + 47.3% Tadijk" "3.773"
[2,] "35.4% Meghawal + 64.6% Tadijk" "3.9835"
[3,] "65.2% Tadijk + 34.8% TN_Brahmin" "4.1165"
[4,] "70.7% Tadijk + 29.3% Velama" "4.1413"
[5,] "36.6% Hindi + 63.4% Tadijk" "4.1651"
[6,] "34.2% AP_Brahmin + 65.8% Tadijk" "4.2064"
[7,] "82.2% Pathan + 17.8% Tatar_Crim" "4.2427"
[8,] "32.7% Indian_Jew_ + 67.3% Pashtun" "4.256"
[9,] "62.7% Tadijk + 37.3% Vaish" "4.3307"
[10,] "68.2% Tadijk + 31.8% Telugu-Kannada" "4.3704"
[11,] "31.2% Gujarati-Indian + 68.8% Tadijk" "4.3711"
[12,] "37.7% Marathi + 62.3% Tadijk" "4.3836"
[13,] "71.9% Tadijk + 28.1% Tamil_Nadu" "4.3836"
[14,] "63.8% Tadijk + 36.2% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin" "4.4688"
[15,] "37.9% Kurmi + 62.1% Tadijk" "4.5013"
[16,] "19.6% Nogay + 80.4% Pathan" "4.536"
[17,] "26.3% Piramalai_Kallar + 73.7% Tadijk" "4.5925"
[18,] "16.5% Greek_Azov + 83.5% Pathan" "4.6946"
[19,] "38.1% Indian_Jew + 61.9% Tadijk" "4.8098"
[20,] "36.9% Kshatriya + 63.1% Tadijk" "4.8246"

Rather different mixed mode oracle results for the two Admixture runs.

Hok
10-22-2013, 08:55 PM
MDLP K27
----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

0.00% Nilotic-Omotic
0.00% Ancestral-South-Indi
33.70% North-European-Balti
1.46% Uralic
0.45% Australo-Melanesian
0.00% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
7.72% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% Austronesian
0.29% Central-African-Pygm
0.02% Central-African-Hunt
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
1.48% North-African
11.13% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.01% Cushitic
0.00% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Bushmen
0.00% South-Meso-Amerindia
31.46% South-West-European
0.42% North-Amerindian
0.23% Arabic
0.00% North-Circumpolar
1.95% Kalash
0.32% Papuan-Australian
9.35% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu


[1,] "N._European" "7.1063"
[2,] "Welsh" "7.5315"
[3,] "South_German" "7.8855"
[4,] "Swedish" "8.9365"
[5,] "North-West-European" "8.9535"
[6,] "North_German" "11.0963"
[7,] "Austrian" "11.5035"
[8,] "British" "11.6497"
[9,] "Orcadian" "12.2475"
[10,] "Swiss" "13.9077"

Sapporo
10-23-2013, 06:54 AM
MDLP K=27

1. 33.72% Gedrosia-Caucasian
2. 32.55% Ancestral-South-Indian
3. 10.11% North-European-Baltic
4. 5.41% Caucasian-Near-Eastern
5. 4.85% Kalash
6. 3.39% Uralic
7. 2.61% Arabic
8. 1.94% North-Amerindian
9. 1.37% Baltic-Finnic
10. 1.05% North-Circumpolar
11. 0.80% North-African
12. 0.76% East-Siberean
13. 0.71% Cushitic
14. 0.64% Australo-Melanesian
15. 0.05% Nilo-Saharian
16. 0.03% Bantu
17. 0.01% South-Meso-Amerindian

[1,] "Pathan" "5.9415"
[2,] "Pakistani" "7.421"
[3,] "Sindhi" "8.9405"
[4,] "Kashmiri" "9.2457"
[5,] "Burusho" "11.4256"
[6,] "Brahmin" "13.2967"
[7,] "Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh" "16.5657"
[8,] "Meena" "16.9271"
[9,] "Pashtun" "17.4754"
[10,] "Kurmi" "17.8473"
[11,] "Brahmin_Uttar-Pradesh" "18.014"
[12,] "Kshatriya" "18.3545"
[13,] "Marathi" "18.4844"
[14,] "Vaish" "18.9441"
[15,] "Indian_Jew" "19.4417"
[16,] "Hindi" "19.5665"
[17,] "Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin" "19.6291"
[18,] "Meghawal" "20.8029"
[19,] "Indian_Jew_" "20.873"
[20,] "TN_Brahmin" "21.696"
[21,] "Balochi" "22.4118"
[22,] "AP_Brahmin" "22.7"
[23,] "Makrani" "24.6062"
[24,] "Srivastava" "24.6153"
[25,] "Nepalese" "24.7381"
[26,] "Tadjik" "25.1791"
[27,] "Tadijk" "25.9851"
[28,] "Brahui" "26.1183"
[29,] "Parsi" "26.333"
[30,] "Gujarati-Indian" "26.4679"

Forgot to add my mixed mode.

MDLP K=27 Mixed Mode:

[1,] "27.7% Brahmin + 72.3% Pathan" "3.3112"
[2,] "23.3% Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + 76.7% Pathan" "3.3185"
[3,] "8.9% Mordovian + 91.1% Pakistani" "4.0068"
[4,] "20% Brahmin_Uttar-Pradesh + 80% Pathan" "4.0183"
[5,] "9.5% Chuvash + 90.5% Pakistani" "4.0918"
[6,] "91.8% Pakistani + 8.2% South-Russian" "4.1637"
[7,] "9.5% Komi + 90.5% Pakistani" "4.1729"
[8,] "19.1% Kshatriya + 80.9% Pathan" "4.1901"
[9,] "91.7% Pakistani + 8.3% Ukrainian" "4.2183"
[10,] "8.4% East-Ukrainian + 91.6% Pakistani" "4.2232"
[11,] "92.2% Pakistani + 7.8% Russian" "4.2234"
[12,] "8.8% North-Russian + 91.2% Pakistani" "4.2339"
[13,] "51.4% Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + 48.6% Pashtun" "4.2407"
[14,] "8% Belarusian + 92% Pakistani" "4.2544"
[15,] "8% Center-Russian + 92% Pakistani" "4.273"
[16,] "48.7% Kshatriya + 51.3% Pashtun" "4.3"
[17,] "81.8% Pathan + 18.2% Vaish" "4.3034"
[18,] "7% Latvian + 93% Pakistani" "4.3193"
[19,] "7.2% Lithuanian + 92.8% Pakistani" "4.3597"
[20,] "89.5% Pakistani + 10.5% Tatar" "4.3698"

crowens3
10-27-2013, 06:59 PM
I'm an American with deep colonial roots in America (on paper, approximately 42% German, 34% British, 10% Irish, 6% Prussian (Poland), 7% unknown, DNA: approximately 0.5% Amerindian, 0.5% South Asian, traces of Ashkenazi and Sub-Saharan African).

FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

0.21% Nilotic-Omotic
0.15% Ancestral-South-Indian
28.48% North-European-Baltic
2.40% Uralic
0.46% Australo-Melanesian
0.20% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
9.93% Caucasian-Near-Eastern
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygmean
0.22% Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
1.43% North-African
11.33% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.30% Cushitic
0.00% Congo-Pygmean
0.51% Bushmen
0.09% South-Meso-Amerindian
31.35% South-West-European
0.16% North-Amerindian
0.58% Arabic
0.00% North-Circumpolar
1.79% Kalash
0.02% Papuan-Australian
10.41% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu

CPU time = 854.50 sec

> MOracle2(c(0.21, 0.15, 28.48, 2.4, 0.46, 0.2, 0, 9.93, 0, 0, 0, 0.22, 0, 1.43, 11.33, 0.3, 0, 0.51, 0.09, 31.35, 0.16, 0.58, 0, 1.79, 0.02, 10.41, 0), k=30)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Swiss" "11.0475"
[2,] "Welsh" "11.0741"
[3,] "N._European" "11.3333"
[4,] "South_German" "11.6489"
[5,] "North-West-European" "11.6646"
[6,] "French" "12.1717"
[7,] "Provancal" "13.0287"
[8,] "Swedish" "13.1517"
[9,] "British" "14.0099"
[10,] "Austrian" "14.6816"
[11,] "Orcadian" "15.5151"
[12,] "North_German" "16.5527"
[13,] "Hungarian" "19.3456"
[14,] "Portuguese" "19.5"
[15,] "North_Italian" "21.225"
[16,] "German" "22.8636"
[17,] "Spanish" "23.011"
[18,] "Colville" "23.1777"
[19,] "Iberian" "23.5972"
[20,] "North-Italian" "23.7454"
[21,] "Slovenian" "24.0909"
[22,] "Croatian" "24.1134"
[23,] "Montenegrian" "25.1886"
[24,] "Macedonian" "25.3978"
[25,] "Toscani" "25.399"
[26,] "Serbian" "25.4276"
[27,] "Lumbee" "25.7723"
[28,] "Bulgarian" "26.0463"
[29,] "Tuscan" "26.2417"
[30,] "Caribbean_Hispanic" "26.4335"
> MOracle2(c(0.21, 0.15, 28.48, 2.4, 0.46, 0.2, 0, 9.93, 0, 0, 0, 0.22, 0, 1.43, 11.33, 0.3, 0, 0.51, 0.09, 31.35, 0.16, 0.58, 0, 1.79, 0.02, 10.41, 0), k=30, mixedmode=T)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "66.4% Swedish + 33.6% Toscani" "3.1426"
[2,] "67.1% Swedish + 32.9% Tuscan" "3.2586"
[3,] "35.1% North-Italian + 64.9% Swedish" "3.305"
[4,] "31.8% Corsican + 68.2% Swedish" "3.403"
[5,] "37.6% North_Italian + 62.4% Swedish" "3.7711"
[6,] "26.7% South-Sicilian + 73.3% Swedish" "3.9543"
[7,] "78.9% French + 21.1% Vepsa" "4.0089"
[8,] "72.3% Swedish + 27.7% West-Sicilian" "4.1636"
[9,] "26.2% Center-Sicilian + 73.8% Swedish" "4.3643"
[10,] "80.2% French + 19.8% Karelian" "4.3862"
[11,] "29.5% Center-Italian + 70.5% Swedish" "4.3921"
[12,] "27.5% South_Italian + 72.5% Swedish" "4.6034"
[13,] "44.9% Swedish + 55.1% Swiss" "4.7156"
[14,] "50.3% Provancal + 49.7% Swedish" "4.7806"
[15,] "21% S1 + 79% Swedish" "4.8202"
[16,] "20.8% Karelian + 79.2% Provancal" "4.9239"
[17,] "81.2% French + 18.8% Inkeri" "4.9509"
[18,] "24.4% Sephardic_Bulgaria + 75.6% Swedish" "4.9656"
[19,] "78.1% Provancal + 21.9% Vepsa" "5.0298"
[20,] "23.8% Morocco_Jew + 76.2% Swedish" "5.041"
[21,] "23.8% SephardicBul + 76.2% Swedish" "5.2987"
[22,] "22.2% Center-Sicilian + 77.8% N._European" "5.4036"
[23,] "25.5% Romanian_Jew_ + 74.5% Swedish" "5.4109"
[24,] "19.7% Inkeri + 80.3% Provancal" "5.4863"
[25,] "17.2% Cypriot + 82.8% N._European" "5.5063"
[26,] "22.8% SephardicTurk + 77.2% Swedish" "5.5119"
[27,] "15.4% Druze + 84.6% N._European" "5.5348"
[28,] "19.2% Cretan + 80.8% N._European" "5.579"
[29,] "81.9% N._European + 18.1% Turk" "5.6179"
[30,] "16.7% Armenian + 83.3% N._European" "5.6707"

EastAnglian
11-15-2013, 12:32 PM
When I use Oracle 4 I get:



Using 1 population approximation:
1 German_V @ 2.266
2 Austrian @ 2.821
3 CEU_V @ 3.790
4 Hungarian @ 5.446
5 Welsh @ 5.700
6 Slovenian @ 6.786
7 CEU @ 7.079
8 German-North @ 7.111
9 Croatian @ 7.452
10 British @ 7.724
276 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bosnian +50% Welsh @ 2.189
2 50% Bosnian +50% Orcadian @ 2.215
3 50% British +50% Croatian @ 2.263
4 50% German_V +50% German_V @ 2.266
5 50% Austrian +50% German_V @ 2.338
6 50% CEU +50% Croatian @ 2.379
7 50% Croatian +50% Orcadian @ 2.398
8 50% Hungarian +50% Welsh @ 2.442
9 50% British +50% Hungarian @ 2.473
10 50% Croatian +50% Welsh @ 2.498
38226 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Welsh +25% French +25% Latvian_V @ 1.794
2 50% Welsh +25% Bosnian +25% German_V @ 1.845
3 50% German_V +25% Bosnian +25% Orcadian @ 1.893
4 50% Bosnian +25% Orcadian +25% Welsh @ 1.947
5 50% Welsh +25% Austrian +25% Bosnian @ 1.967
6 50% Welsh +25% Serbian +25% Slovenian @ 1.989
7 50% Welsh +25% Kosovar +25% Russian_Center @ 2.018
8 50% Welsh +25% Bosnian +25% Hungarian @ 2.026
9 50% British +25% Bosnian +25% Slovenian @ 2.030
10 50% German_V +25% Bosnian +25% British @ 2.042
1280153 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French + Latvian_V + Welsh + Welsh @ 1.794
2 Bosnian + German_V + Welsh + Welsh @ 1.845
3 Bosnian + British + Hungarian + Welsh @ 1.880
4 Bosnian + German_V + German_V + Orcadian @ 1.893
5 German-South + Latvian_V + Orcadian + Welsh @ 1.895
6 British + German-South + Latvian_V + Welsh @ 1.914
7 Bosnian + Bosnian + Orcadian + Welsh @ 1.947
8 Bosnian + Hungarian + Orcadian + Welsh @ 1.956
9 Austrian + Bosnian + German_V + Orcadian @ 1.960
10 Austrian + Bosnian + Welsh + Welsh @ 1.967
11 Bosnian + British + Slovenian + Welsh @ 1.977
12 Bosnian + Croatian + Orcadian + Welsh @ 1.981
13 Serbian + Slovenian + Welsh + Welsh @ 1.989
14 German-North + German_V + Serbian + Welsh @ 1.998
15 Bosnian + CEU + Hungarian + Welsh @ 2.012
16 Kosovar + Russian_Center + Welsh + Welsh @ 2.018
17 Bosnian + Hungarian + Welsh + Welsh @ 2.026
18 CEU_V + French + Latvian_V + Welsh @ 2.027
19 French + German_V + Latvian_V + Welsh @ 2.029
20 Bosnian + British + British + Slovenian @ 2.030

Now the German I can understand(Angles), but why do I have so much Welsh in there?, Iceni?

vettor
11-15-2013, 07:47 PM
When I use Oracle 4 I get:




Now the German I can understand(Angles), but why do I have so much Welsh in there?, Iceni?

The notes on the oracle term and how its used , is that the percentages are so close that you can choose whichever one suits your known family history. you can choose #7 for the first, #3 for the second etc

Generalissimo
11-16-2013, 08:19 AM
Now the German I can understand(Angles).

It's not because of the Angles. It's because of the Calculator Effect.

Sein
11-21-2013, 11:35 AM
I'm rather late, but here it goes:

MDLP World
1 Caucaus_Parsia 41.99
2 Indian 27.25
3 North_and_East_European 11.58
4 Middle_East 7.47
5 South_and_West_European 4.04
6 North_Asian 2.95
7 East_Asian 1.77
8 Mesoamerican 1.65
9 Melanesian 1.13
10 Arctic_Amerind 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan 5.61
2 Pashtun 8.45
3 Burusho 8.85
4 Balochi 10.09
5 Sindhi 12.97
6 Brahui 13.63
7 Makrani 13.73
8 Parsi 15.67
9 Tadjik 15.97
10 Kalash 18.45
11 Jew_India 22.71
12 Turkmen 23.34
13 Iranian 28.11
14 Azeri 28.64
15 Kumyk 29.02
16 Tabassaran 29.08
17 Lezgin 29.09
18 Lak 29.51
19 Kurd 29.96
20 Chechen 30.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.1% Pathan + 6.9% Bedouin @ 2.95
2 93.3% Pathan + 6.7% Saudi @ 3.05
3 93.5% Pathan + 6.5% Jew_Yemen @ 3.05
4 92.3% Pathan + 7.7% Egyptian @ 3.09
5 91.3% Pathan + 8.7% Palestinian @ 3.14
6 90.9% Pathan + 9.1% Jordanian @ 3.17
7 91.9% Pathan + 8.1% Samaritian @ 3.19
8 91.7% Pathan + 8.3% Yemen @ 3.24
9 83.6% Pathan + 16.4% Turkmen @ 3.32
10 90.1% Pathan + 9.9% Syrian @ 3.37
11 89.2% Pathan + 10.8% Iraqi @ 3.43
12 90.4% Pathan + 9.6% Lebanese @ 3.45
13 92.2% Pathan + 7.8% Jew_Libya @ 3.45
14 90.8% Pathan + 9.2% Costanoan @ 3.49
15 92.1% Pathan + 7.9% Jew_Tunisia @ 3.55
16 91% Pathan + 9% Druze @ 3.57
17 93.8% Pathan + 6.2% Mozabite @ 3.58
18 92.3% Pathan + 7.7% Jew_Algeria @ 3.64
19 94.6% Pathan + 5.4% Jew_Ethiopia @ 3.65
20 91.4% Pathan + 8.6% Jew_Syria @ 3.65

MDLP World-22
1 West-Asian 38.85
2 Indian 24.63
3 North-East-European 7.77
4 Indo-Iranian 6.96
5 Samoedic 5.03
6 Near_East 4.06
7 North-European-Mesolithic 3.09
8 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 2.52
9 Indo-Tibetan 2.02
10 North-Amerind 1.43
11 Paleo-Siberian 0.9
12 Austronesian 0.89
13 South-America_Amerind 0.79
14 East-South-Asian 0.69
15 North-Siberean 0.18
16 Melanesian 0.1
17 Mesoamerican 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan (derived) 5.78
2 Burusho (derived) 8.11
3 Pashtun (derived) 8.88
4 Balochi (derived) 10.5
5 Sindhi (derived) 13.23
6 Brahui (derived) 13.97
7 Makrani (derived) 14.09
8 Tadjik (derived) 15.06
9 Parsi (derived) 15.28
10 Jew_India (derived) 21.42
11 Turkmen (derived) 21.49
12 Iranian (derived) 26.32
13 Azeri (derived) 27.07
14 Kumyk (derived) 27.44
15 Roma (derived) 27.77
16 Uzbek (derived) 28.12
17 Tabassaran (derived) 28.7
18 Lezgin (derived) 28.74
19 Kurd (derived) 28.84
20 Lak (derived) 28.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.2% Pathan (derived) + 8.8% Palestinian (derived) @ 3.86
2 92.3% Pathan (derived) + 7.7% Egyptian (derived) @ 3.87
3 90.8% Pathan (derived) + 9.2% Jordanian (derived) @ 3.87
4 93.1% Pathan (derived) + 6.9% Bedouin (derived) @ 3.89
5 93.4% Pathan (derived) + 6.6% Jew_Yemen (derived) @ 3.94
6 91.9% Pathan (derived) + 8.1% Samaritian (derived) @ 3.94
7 93.2% Pathan (derived) + 6.8% Saudi (derived) @ 3.97
8 91.9% Pathan (derived) + 8.1% Jew_Libya (derived) @ 3.98
9 89.9% Pathan (derived) + 10.1% Syrian (derived) @ 3.99
10 90.2% Pathan (derived) + 9.8% Lebanese (derived) @ 4.01
11 91.9% Pathan (derived) + 8.1% Yemen (derived) @ 4.02
12 91.9% Pathan (derived) + 8.1% Jew_Tunisia (derived) @ 4.06
13 89.1% Pathan (derived) + 10.9% Iraqi (derived) @ 4.07
14 94% Pathan (derived) + 6% Mozabite (derived) @ 4.1
15 92% Pathan (derived) + 8% Jew_Morocco (derived) @ 4.12
16 90.9% Pathan (derived) + 9.1% Druze (derived) @ 4.12
17 92.1% Pathan (derived) + 7.9% Jew_Algeria (derived) @ 4.14
18 90.7% Pathan (derived) + 9.3% Costanoan (derived) @ 4.14
19 91.3% Pathan (derived) + 8.7% Jew_Syria (derived) @ 4.15
20 94.2% Pathan (derived) + 5.8% Moroccan (derived) @ 4.17

Does Vadim have Pashtun participants in his project?

Sapporo
11-28-2013, 05:10 AM
MDLP World

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucaus_Parsia 39.98
2 Indian 35.43
3 North_and_East_European 13.05
4 Middle_East 4.52
5 South_and_West_European 3.42
6 Arctic_Amerind 1.95
7 North_Asian 0.87
8 Mesoamerican 0.76

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan 6.73
2 Burusho 8.32
3 Sindhi 9.82
4 Balochi 14.08
5 Pashtun 14.82
6 Jew_India 17.49
7 Brahui 18.61
8 Makrani 18.89
9 Kalash 20.86
10 Parsi 21.61
11 Tadjik 22.37
12 Indian 29.41
13 Turkmen 30.6
14 Roma 33.84
15 Iranian 35.18
16 Tabassaran 35.69
17 Uzbek 35.92
18 Lezgin 35.96
19 Azeri 36.05
20 Lak 36.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% Pathan + 16.2% Indian @ 3.69
2 76.8% Pathan + 23.2% Jew_India @ 4.37
3 67.5% Pashtun + 32.5% Indian @ 4.91
4 93.2% Pathan + 6.8% Ajv52 @ 5.74
5 89.7% Sindhi + 10.3% Estonian @ 5.83
6 89.4% Sindhi + 10.6% Inkeri @ 5.84
7 89.8% Sindhi + 10.2% Latvian @ 5.84
8 89.6% Sindhi + 10.4% Karelian @ 5.84
9 89.5% Sindhi + 10.5% Finnish @ 5.84
10 89.6% Sindhi + 10.4% Finnish-South @ 5.84
11 89.7% Sindhi + 10.3% Vepsa @ 5.85
12 89% Sindhi + 11% Russian_North @ 5.87
13 89.8% Sindhi + 10.2% Lithuanian @ 5.88
14 89.8% Sindhi + 10.2% Finnish-North @ 5.89
15 89.8% Sindhi + 10.2% Lithuanian_V @ 5.91
16 88.3% Sindhi + 11.7% Mordovian @ 5.92
17 89.3% Sindhi + 10.7% Russian @ 5.93
18 89.4% Sindhi + 10.6% Belarusian @ 5.93
19 88.8% Sindhi + 11.2% Moldavian @ 5.95
20 89.2% Sindhi + 10.8% Russian_Center @ 5.96

tolga1989
12-26-2013, 09:36 AM
There is a new MDLP (k27) calculator. Download DIYCalculator and run test.par: DIYCalculator http://zalil.ru/34668714
You can enter your results in MDLOracle (like: MDLOracle(c(0.2 ...)) or Oracle (like MOracle2(c(0.2 ...))

MDLOracle http://zalil.ru/34668697 Oracle http://zalil.ru/34668703

My results:

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/903/kweu.jpg

MDLP Oracle
[1,] "Island-Greek_dumped_6" "9.2589"
[2,] "SephardicTurk_dumped_7" "9.3495"
[3,] "Cretan_dumped_5" "9.4863"
[4,] "Sephardic_Bulgaria_dumped_8" "10.3603"
[5,] "Ashkenazi_dumped_45" "10.5376"
[6,] "Cypriot_dumped_4" "11.1734"
[7,] "Romanian_Jew_dumped_2" "11.1974"
[8,] "Greek_Azov_dumped_3" "11.3015"
[9,] "Lebanese_dumped_6" "11.3369"
[10,] "Turk_dumped_16" "11.5645"

Oracle:
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Romanian_Jew_" "9.3083"
[2,] "Island-Greek" "10.2832"
[3,] "SephardicTurk" "10.4845"
[4,] "Cretan" "10.5209"
[5,] "Sephardic_Bulgaria" "11.577"
[6,] "Ashkenazi" "11.6908"
[7,] "Romanian_Jew" "12.4593"
[8,] "Cypriot" "12.4603"
[9,] "Greek_Azov" "12.5795"
[10,] "Lebanese" "12.6242"

Tolan
12-26-2013, 05:09 PM
OK! Thanks, but it's lacking test.txt!
you need to create a new file in the DIYCalculator folder called test.txt with this list in it:

Nilotic-Omotic
Ancestral-South-Indian
North-European-Baltic
Uralic
Australo-Melanesian
East-Siberean
Ancestral-Yayoi
Caucasian-Near-Eastern
Tibeto-Burman
Austronesian
Central-African-Pygmean
Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers
Nilo-Saharian
North-African
Gedrosia-Caucasian
Cushitic
Congo-Pygmean
Bushmen
South-Meso-Amerindian
South-West-European
North-Amerindian
Arabic
North-Circumpolar
Kalash
Papuan-Australian
Baltic-Finnic
Bantu

My results:
1.11% Nilotic-Omotic
0.92% Ancestral-South-Indi
29.31% North-European-Balti
1.80% Uralic
0.00% Australo-Melanesian
0.00% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
12.32% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygm
0.00% Central-African-Hunt
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
1.52% North-African
10.50% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.00% Cushitic
0.00% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Bushmen
0.33% South-Meso-Amerindia
35.61% South-West-European
0.00% North-Amerindian
0.33% Arabic
0.00% North-Circumpolar
0.71% Kalash
0.48% Papuan-Australian
5.06% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu

CPU time = 1897.75 sec


MDLP K27 beta spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Aqr2nbGXpVFndHo5TnJZR2VFYW1lcExMNGUyWTVheV E&rm=full#gid=0

Dr_McNinja
12-26-2013, 05:54 PM
I took this a while ago,

0.00% Nilotic-Omotic
38.96% Ancestral-South-Indi
7.04% North-European-Balti
1.79% Uralic
0.50% Australo-Melanesian
1.72% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
5.75% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.63% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygm
0.63% Central-African-Hunt
0.01% Nilo-Saharian
0.00% North-African
27.32% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.00% Cushitic
0.04% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Bushmen
1.35% South-Meso-Amerindia
1.68% South-West-European
0.24% North-Amerindian
2.61% Arabic
1.51% North-Circumpolar
4.29% Kalash
0.76% Papuan-Australian
2.62% Baltic-Finnic
0.55% Bantu



[1,] "79.2% Brahmin_Uttar-Pradesh + 20.8% Turkmenian" "2.922"
[2,] "82.7% Brahmin_Uttar-Pradesh + 17.3% Kurd" "3.0369"
[3,] "81.2% Brahmin_Uttar-Pradesh + 18.8% Iranian" "3.0809"
[4,] "76% Brahmin_Uttar-Pradesh + 24% Parsi" "3.0931"
[5,] "77.8% Meghawal + 22.2% Nogay" "3.1912"
[6,] "80.8% Hindi + 19.2% Lak" "3.2427"
[7,] "74.5% Hindi + 25.5% Tadijk" "3.2494"
[8,] "17% Azeri + 83% Brahmin_Uttar-Pradesh" "3.2729"
[9,] "80.4% Hindi + 19.6% Urkarah" "3.276"
[10,] "80.9% Hindi + 19.1% Lezgin" "3.2881"


[1,] "Brahmin" "8.3123"
[2,] "Kashmiri" "8.3137"
[3,] "Brahmin_Uttar-Pradesh" "10.1841"
[4,] "Kurmi" "10.3115"
[5,] "Marathi" "10.5123"
[6,] "Pakistani" "10.9694"
[7,] "Meena" "11.0275"
[8,] "Vaish" "11.1904"
[9,] "Indian_Jew" "11.4579"
[10,] "Kshatriya" "11.504"

[1,] "Kashmiri_dumped_4" "7.6382"
[2,] "Brahmin_Uttar-Pradesh_dumped_5" "9.1225"
[3,] "Kurmi_dumped_3" "9.2704"
[4,] "Marathi_dumped_11" "9.4686"
[5,] "Pakistani_dumped_22" "9.9045"
[6,] "Vaish_dumped_4" "10.1207"
[7,] "Kshatriya_dumped_6" "10.3101"
[8,] "Indian_Jew_dumped_4" "10.3251"
[9,] "Hindi_dumped_33" "10.3877"
[10,] "Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin_dumped_2" "11.4639"

Sapporo
12-26-2013, 06:23 PM
There is a thread for MDLP results already. Here is my MDLP K27

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?138-Magnus-Ducatus-Lituaniae-Project-(MDLP)&p=16390&viewfull=1#post16390

Tolan
12-27-2013, 02:24 PM
My results:
1.11% Nilotic-Omotic
0.92% Ancestral-South-Indi
29.31% North-European-Balti
1.80% Uralic
0.00% Australo-Melanesian
0.00% East-Siberean
0.00% Ancestral-Yayoi
12.32% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygm
0.00% Central-African-Hunt
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
1.52% North-African
10.50% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.00% Cushitic
0.00% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Bushmen
0.33% South-Meso-Amerindia
35.61% South-West-European
0.00% North-Amerindian
0.33% Arabic
0.00% North-Circumpolar
0.71% Kalash
0.48% Papuan-Australian
5.06% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu


And a single Population Sharing:
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Swiss" "6.7783"
[2,] "French" "7.1262"
[3,] "Provancal" "8.0679"
[4,] "Welsh" "10.0342"
[5,] "North-West-European" "11.0019"
[6,] "South_German" "11.3369"
[7,] "N._European" "11.5811"
[8,] "British" "12.5336"
[9,] "Orcadian" "14.4872"
[10,] "Austrian" "14.9371"

However, i am Breton! :P

mnd
03-15-2014, 03:22 PM
Based on their position in the below MDS analysis I ran a few weeks back on mtDNA data (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?646-Assyrian-mtDNA-Distribution&p=31118&viewfull=1#post31118), I would agree with the possibility of (at least some) indigeneity. I would probably not rely exclusively on their similarities with western Turkic-speaking groups in support of this. Rather, I would refer to the fact that their mtDNA haplogroup frequencies fall within a branch including Georgians and Avars, and more distantly, Iranians.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x372/paulgiva78/passover/cluster_analysis_caucasus_mtdna.jpg
I was using western Turkic-speaking groups as an example of people who cluster closer to their geographic neighbours than their linguistic relatives further away due to the same kinds of reasons which I'd imagine apply to Crimean Tatars also (conversion to Islam and intermarriage).

When I mentioned that Crimean Tatars probably derived the majority of their ancestry from the people living in the area prior to the Crimean Khanate, I was actually thinking of their proximity to the Azov Greeks from the MDLP populations.

Using the Oracle tool for MDLP World-22, I get the following...

Crimean Tatars:

[1,] "Tatar_Crim" "0"
[2,] "Greek_Azov" "10.5825"
[3,] "Nogai" "13.8643"
[4,] "Greek_Center" "17.3994"
[5,] "Ashkenazim_V" "18.6051"
[6,] "Greek_Cretan" "18.9301"
[7,] "Cirkassian" "18.9795"
[8,] "Turk" "19.853"
[9,] "Italian-Center" "20.4076"
[10,] "Gagauz" "21.1384"
[11,] "Italian-South" "21.2353"
[12,] "Costanoan" "21.9037"
[13,] "Turkmen" "22.2738"
[14,] "Balkarian" "22.285"
[15,] "Sicilian" "22.2987"
[16,] "Kumyk" "22.3249"
[17,] "Romania" "22.8189"
[18,] "Kabardinian" "23.4094"
[19,] "Ashkenazim" "23.8317"
[20,] "Adygei" "23.8975"

[1,] "Tatar_Crim" "0"
[2,] "44.2% Greek_Center + 55.8% Nogai" "2.6629"
[3,] "42.5% Ashkenazim_V + 57.5% Nogai" "2.7163"
[4,] "74.9% Greek_Azov + 25.1% Tatar_Lithuania" "3.2792"
[5,] "40% Italian-Center + 60% Nogai" "3.5475"
[6,] "38.9% Italian-South + 61.1% Nogai" "4.0782"
[7,] "62.5% Nogai + 37.5% Sicilian" "4.6189"
[8,] "33.1% Italian-North + 66.9% Nogai" "4.7017"
[9,] "21.2% Bashkir + 78.8% Greek_Azov" "4.7285"
[10,] "82.9% Greek_Azov + 17.1% Hakas" "4.8871"
[11,] "81.5% Greek_Azov + 18.5% Kazakh" "4.9496"
[12,] "79.5% Greek_Azov + 20.5% Karakalpak" "4.9547"
[13,] "29.8% Corsican + 70.2% Nogai" "4.9679"
[14,] "85.9% Greek_Azov + 14.1% Nivhi" "5.0939"
[15,] "16.1% Altaic + 83.9% Greek_Azov" "5.2688"
[16,] "78.6% Greek_Azov + 21.4% Tatar" "5.388"
[17,] "32.2% German + 67.8% Turk" "5.4544"
[18,] "84.1% Greek_Azov + 15.9% Shor" "5.6152"
[19,] "33.8% Hungarian + 66.2% Turk" "5.6249"
[20,] "30.7% German-North + 69.3% Turk" "5.6777"

Azov Greeks:

[1,] "Greek_Azov" "0"
[2,] "Tatar_Crim" "10.5825"
[3,] "Greek_Cretan" "12.9259"
[4,] "Turk" "13.8156"
[5,] "Greek_Center" "15.8799"
[6,] "Cirkassian" "16.5816"
[7,] "Italian-Center" "18.2532"
[8,] "Italian-South" "18.5383"
[9,] "Sicilian" "19.1463"
[10,] "Balkarian" "19.7188"
[11,] "Kumyk" "19.8376"
[12,] "Cypriot" "20.0796"
[13,] "Nogai" "20.1621"
[14,] "Jew_Syria" "20.4746"
[15,] "Ashkenazim_V" "20.5762"
[16,] "Adygei" "20.7403"
[17,] "Kabardinian" "20.7434"
[18,] "Costanoan" "21.1981"
[19,] "Azeri" "21.3089"
[20,] "Ashkenazim" "21.3246"

[1,] "Greek_Azov" "0"
[2,] "73.9% Armenian + 26.1% Serbian" "2.218"
[3,] "75.4% Armenian + 24.6% Bosnian" "2.2201"
[4,] "65.4% Armenian + 34.6% Gagauz" "2.3042"
[5,] "71.5% Armenian + 28.5% Montenegrian" "2.5623"
[6,] "68% Armenian + 32% Bulgarian" "2.6206"
[7,] "76.7% Armenian + 23.3% Croatian" "2.7457"
[8,] "69.1% Armenian + 30.9% Macedonian" "2.7954"
[9,] "81.6% Armenian + 18.4% Ukrainian" "2.9892"
[10,] "66.2% Armenian + 33.8% Romanian" "3.0576"
[11,] "81% Armenian + 19% West-Ukrainian" "3.117"
[12,] "80% Armenian + 20% Slovak" "3.118"
[13,] "80.3% Armenian + 19.7% Czech" "3.2648"
[14,] "78.8% Armenian + 21.2% Slovenian" "3.2971"
[15,] "82.6% Armenian + 17.4% Russian_cossack" "3.3377"
[16,] "83.2% Armenian + 16.8% Pole" "3.4019"
[17,] "83.5% Armenian + 16.5% Sorb" "3.4172"
[18,] "83.3% Armenian + 16.7% Belarusian" "3.5595"
[19,] "77.6% Armenian + 22.4% Hungarian" "3.6034"
[20,] "83.5% Armenian + 16.5% Center-Russian" "3.6181"

Sapporo
03-17-2014, 03:45 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 32.21%
Near_East 26.86%
Sub-Saharian 13.7%
West-Asian 12.99%
North-East-European 10.13%
Samoedic 1.4%
East-Siberean 0.86%
Indo-Tibetan 0.64%
North-Siberean 0.55%
Austronesian 0.31%
North-European-Mesolithic 0.28%
South-African 0.06%

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Morocco (derived) 14.12
2 Jew_Algeria (derived) 15.42
3 Ashkenazim (derived) 15.67
4 Jew_Libya (derived) 15.91
5 Jew_Tunisia (derived) 16.23
6 Jew_Italia (derived) 16.71
7 Jew_Francestrale (derived) 16.81
8 Sephardim (derived) 17.32
9 Sicilian (derived) 18.4
10 Jew_Romania (derived) 19.89
11 Mozabite (derived) 20.02
12 Italian-South (derived) 20.43
13 Greek_Cretan (derived) 20.46
14 Italian-Center (derived) 21.3
15 Costanoan (derived) 21.65
16 Jordanian (derived) 21.73
17 Greek_East (derived) 21.75
18 Jew_Syria (derived) 22.04
19 Puerto-Rican (derived) 22.25
20 Ashkenazim_V (derived) 22.39


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.3% Greek_East (derived) + 48.7% Moroccan (derived) @ 2.52
2 58.7% Mozabite (derived) + 41.3% Tatar_Crim (derived) @ 2.77
3 53.5% Jew_Romania (derived) + 46.5% Moroccan (derived) @ 2.86
4 50.4% Greek_Center (derived) + 49.6% Moroccan (derived) @ 2.89
5 57.9% Mozabite (derived) + 42.1% Greek_Azov (derived) @ 3.09
6 51.3% Moroccan (derived) + 48.7% Greek_North (derived) @ 3.41
7 50.2% Moroccan (derived) + 49.8% Greek_South (derived) @ 3.71
8 51.8% Italian-Center (derived) + 48.2% Moroccan (derived) @ 3.93
9 52.9% Italian-South (derived) + 47.1% Moroccan (derived) @ 4.14
10 52.9% Greek_Cretan (derived) + 47.1% Moroccan (derived) @ 4.26

What percentage of Turkish ancestry do you have? I'm curious how a full Kabyle would score on MDLP calculators. Based on this, it seems you are roughly 50% Turkish?

Boaimmas
04-23-2014, 02:51 PM
Hello,

I got the following results on MDLP world-22:

My dad (ca 85% Saami and 15% Finn):


Population
Pygmy 0.12%
West-Asian 0.58%
North-European-Mesolithic 34.01%
Indo-Tibetan 1.58%
Mesoamerican 0.74%
Arctic-Amerind 0.38%
Indian 0.12%
North-Siberean 3.94%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 12.42%
Samoedic 5.82%
Indo-Iranian 1.08%
East-Siberean 1.19%
North-East-European 31.34%
South-African 1.63%
Sub-Saharian 0.55%
East-South-Asian 0.20%
Near_East 2.28%
Paleo-Siberian 1.79%
Austronesian 0.21%

My Mother (North Swede and unknown mix of Saami/Finn):


# Population percent
West-Asian 2.81%
North-European-Mesolithic 14.63%
Arctic-Amerind 0.18%
South-America_Amerind 0.27%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 27.24%
Samoedic 0.46%
North-East-European 54.13%
North-Amerind 0.26%

Me:

# Population percent
West-Asian 2.53%
North-European-Mesolithic 25.91%
Indo-Tibetan 0.46%
Mesoamerican 0.54%
Arctic-Amerind 0.57%
North-Siberean 2.79%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 19.44%
Samoedic 3.83%
Indo-Iranian 1.00%
East-Siberean 0.43%
North-East-European 41.42%
North-Amerind 0.57%
Paleo-Siberian 0.51%


Any comments or ideas of how i can analyse my mothers heritage deeper? The different MDLP:s don“t give me much of a hint....

DMXX
04-23-2014, 03:05 PM
Welcome to the forum, Boaimmas!

If I were in your position, I'd run your mother's data through a Gedmatch calculator that has its' own spreadsheet of average nationality/ethnicity-specific results. Once done, your mother's scores can be compared against a Swedish average to flesh out any salient differences.

The new Eurogenes K13 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ato3EYTdM8lQdEUtZjRwTkQxRzBCeHdTaTdWUUY4Z 0E#gid=0) and Dodecad K12b (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArJDEoCgzRKedEY4Y3lTUVBaaFp0bC1zZlBDcTZEY lE&hl=en_US#gid=0) are good places to start from, as they're more oriented towards West Eurasians. Although I'm a fan of MDLP, the lack of readily presentable population averages in a static accessible place (i.e. a blog) dissuades me from suggesting it for you. As you hinted, the lack of averages removes some of the important context needed to interpret one's results. The last time Vadim uploaded an Oracle calculator, it was announced on a Russian Facebook page, which I never had access to.

Boaimmas
04-23-2014, 03:18 PM
Hello,

Thanks a lot. I“ll try that. Hopefully with some more satisfying results!

Alpine Hominin
04-30-2014, 08:32 PM
My MDLP World-22 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 48.11
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 34.71
3 West-Asian 5.38
4 North-European-Mesolithic 5.18
5 Near_East 3.01
6 Indo-Iranian 2.24
7 Indian 1.37


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 CEU_V @ 3.289
2 German_V @ 4.088
3 Welsh @ 4.321
4 CEU @ 4.600
5 Austrian @ 4.705
6 British @ 5.670
7 Norwegian_V @ 6.454
8 Orcadian @ 6.626
9 Hungarian @ 7.551
10 Swedish @ 7.921
276 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +50% Orcadian @ 2.118
2 50% Austrian +50% CEU @ 2.119
3 50% CEU +50% German_V @ 2.267
4 50% German-South +50% Swedish @ 2.271
5 50% CEU +50% Hungarian @ 2.447
6 50% CEU +50% CEU_V @ 2.453
7 50% British +50% Hungarian @ 2.456
8 50% German-South +50% Swedish_V @ 2.522
9 50% Austrian +50% British @ 2.651
10 50% British +50% German_V @ 2.727
38226 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU_V +25% Italian_North +25% Swedish_V @ 1.456
2 50% CEU_V +25% Provancestralal +25% Swedish_V @ 1.459
3 50% French +25% Swedish_V +25% Ukrainian-West @ 1.473
4 50% CEU_V +25% Swedish_V +25% Swiss @ 1.480
5 50% British +25% Corsican +25% Estonian @ 1.545
6 50% Austrian +25% French +25% Swedish_V @ 1.555
7 50% French +25% Swedish_V +25% Ukrainian_V @ 1.576
8 50% CEU +25% Serbian +25% Swedish_V @ 1.590
9 50% French +25% Norwegian_V +25% Russian_cossack @ 1.598
10 50% German_V +25% French +25% Swedish_V @ 1.648
1394764 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Czech + Italian_North + Orcadian + Swedish_V @ 1.231
2 CEU + Czech + Provancestralal + Swedish_V @ 1.239
3 British + Czech + Italian_North + Swedish_V @ 1.333
4 CEU + Czech + Italian_North + Swedish_V @ 1.337
5 British + Czech + Provancestralal + Swedish_V @ 1.350
6 German-North + Italian_North + Swedish_V + Welsh @ 1.357
7 Provancestralal + Slovenian + Swedish_V + Welsh @ 1.375
8 CEU_V + Montenegrin + Orcadian + Swedish_V @ 1.389
9 Orcadian + Slovenian + Swedish_V + Swiss @ 1.403
10 CEU + Slovenian + Swedish_V + Swiss @ 1.417
11 Basque + Estonian + Norwegian_V + Romania @ 1.418
12 British + Slovenian + Swedish_V + Swiss @ 1.420
13 Italian_North + Orcadian + Slovakian + Swedish_V @ 1.428
14 French + Provancestralal + Sorb + Swedish_V @ 1.447
15 British + Provancestralal + Slovakian + Swedish_V @ 1.449
16 CEU_V + Croatian_V + French + Norwegian_V @ 1.450
17 Bosnian + French + Swedish_V + Welsh @ 1.452
18 CEU_V + CEU_V + Italian_North + Swedish_V @ 1.456
19 CEU_V + CEU_V + Provancestralal + Swedish_V @ 1.459
20 French + Serbian + Swedish + Swedish_V @ 1.469

icebreaker
04-30-2014, 08:56 PM
My MDLP World-22 results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 39.73
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 21.19
3 Near_East 16.35
4 North-East-European 9.11
5 East-Siberean 2.89
6 Indian 2.42
7 Indo-Iranian 2.10
8 North-Siberean 1.92
9 Mesoamerican 1.46
10 East-South-Asian 1.40
11 Paleo-Siberian 0.85
12 Samoedic 0.58


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk @ 3.258
2 Azeri @ 10.202
3 Greek_Azov @ 13.098
4 Kurd @ 13.128
5 Cirkassian @ 13.739
6 Kumyk @ 14.266
7 Jew-Uzbekistan @ 14.623
8 Armenian @ 14.912
9 Iranian @ 14.983
10 Iraqi @ 15.538
276 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk +50% Turk @ 3.258
2 50% Cirkassian +50% Lebanese @ 4.436
3 50% Balkarian +50% Lebanese @ 4.454
4 50% Jew_Tat +50% Tatar_Crim @ 4.467
5 50% Jew_Azerbaijan +50% Tatar_Crim @ 4.484
6 50% Kabardinian +50% Lebanese @ 4.669
7 50% Kumyk +50% Lebanese @ 4.735
8 50% Kurd +50% Tatar_Crim @ 4.736
9 50% Cirkassian +50% Syrian @ 4.878
10 50% Jew_Syria +50% Kumyk @ 4.919
38226 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk +25% Kurd +25% Tatar_Crim @ 2.663
2 50% Turk +25% Iranian +25% Tatar_Crim @ 2.716
3 50% Turk +25% Jew-Uzbekistan +25% Tatar_Crim @ 2.900
4 50% Kurd +25% Jew_Italia +25% Nogai @ 2.930
5 50% Kurd +25% Jew_Francestrale +25% Nogai @ 2.969
6 50% Cypriot +25% Avar +25% Turkmen @ 2.995
7 50% Azeri +25% Jew_Tunisia +25% Nogai @ 3.002
8 50% Azeri +25% Jew_Syria +25% Nogai @ 3.031
9 50% Turk +25% Jew_Georgia +25% Nogai @ 3.035
10 50% Kurd +25% Ashkenazim +25% Nogai @ 3.039
1757647 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Cretan + Jew_Iraqi + Kabardinian + Turkmen @ 2.512
2 Adygei + Greek_Cretan + Jew_Azerbaijan + Turkmen @ 2.534
3 Greek_Cretan + Jew_Azerbaijan + Kabardinian + Turkmen @ 2.536
4 Adygei + Greek_Cretan + Jew_Iraqi + Turkmen @ 2.542
5 Georgian_Laz + Greek_North + Jew_Kurd + Turkmen @ 2.544
6 Georgian_Laz + Greek_South + Jew_Kurd + Turkmen @ 2.562
7 Greek_Azov + Jew_Azerbaijan + Turk + Turkmen @ 2.567
8 Chechen + Jew_Azerbaijan + Jew_Francestrale + Turkmen @ 2.579
9 Greek_Cretan + Jew-Iraqi + Kabardinian + Turkmen @ 2.584
10 Chechen + Jew_Azerbaijan + Jew_Italia + Turkmen @ 2.602
11 Armenian + Jew_Romania + Kurd + Turkmen @ 2.614
12 Greek_Cretan + Jew_Azerbaijan + Kumyk + Turkmen @ 2.616
13 Georgian_Imereti + Greek_South + Iraqi + Turkmen @ 2.617
14 Armenian + Greek_East + Kurd + Turkmen @ 2.630
15 Greek_Cretan + Jew-Iran + Kabardinian + Turkmen @ 2.633
16 Georgian + Jew_Kurd + Sicilian + Turkmen @ 2.638
17 Adygei + Greek_Cretan + Jew-Iraqi + Turkmen @ 2.640
18 Ashkenazim + Georgian + Jew_Tat + Turkmen @ 2.643
19 Georgian + Jew_Syria + Turk + Turkmen @ 2.662
20 Kurd + Tatar_Crim + Turk + Turk @ 2.663

dp
07-25-2014, 05:57 PM
aDNA isn't my thing but I think if a value is under 1% it's noise.
dp :-)

dp
08-02-2014, 02:32 PM
Erik,
I backtracked through the blog and found where I had read the noise figure. It's from a post added last fall.

I kind of figured as much. I regard anything in the world comparison below 1% as noise, too.
dp :-)

aDNA isn't my thing but I think if a value is under 1% it's noise.
dp :-)

Here are my results (fN87877):
Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae Project MDLP World-22 Populations
Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 7.24%
North-European-Mesolithic 5.32%
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican 0.41%
Arctic-Amerind -
South-America_Amerind -
Indian -
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 36.51%
Samoedic 0.34%
Indo-Iranian 2.65%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 43.52%
South-African -
North-Amerind 0.47%
Sub-Saharian 0.08%
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 3.45%
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian -

Bulut
10-14-2014, 12:34 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 31.47
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 23.39
3 Near_East 13.96
4 North-East-European 12.43
5 East-Siberean 3.69
6 Samoedic 3.07
7 Indian 2.63
8 North-European-Mesolithic 1.98
9 Paleo-Siberian 1.42
10 East-South-Asian 1.28
11 North-Siberean 1.16
12 Indo-Iranian 1.13
13 Sub-Saharian 0.67
14 Mesoamerican 0.62
15 South-African 0.41
16 South-America_Amerind 0.4
17 Austronesian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Azov (derived) 8.44
2 Tatar_Crim (derived) 9.5
3 Turk (derived) 10.21
4 Greek_Cretan (derived) 14.22
5 Cirkassian (derived) 14.98
6 Nogai (derived) 15.2
7 Jew_Romania (derived) 16.41
8 Azeri (derived) 16.79
9 Greek_East (derived) 16.9
10 Kumyk (derived) 17.04
11 Turkmen (derived) 17.17
12 Costanoan (derived) 17.37
13 Balkarian (derived) 17.9
14 Greek_Center (derived) 17.95
15 Jew_Syria (derived) 18.09
16 Greek_North (derived) 18.26
17 Cypriot (derived) 18.35
18 Lebanese (derived) 18.43
19 Greek_South (derived) 18.66
20 Kabardinian (derived) 18.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Greek_Cretan (derived) + 45.1% Turkmen (derived) @ 3.51
2 68.8% Tatar_Crim (derived) + 31.2% Iraqi (derived) @ 4.39
3 59.4% Nogai (derived) + 40.6% Jew_Algeria (derived) @ 4.51
4 50.4% Greek_East (derived) + 49.6% Turkmen (derived) @ 4.57
5 59.6% Nogai (derived) + 40.4% Jew_Tunisia (derived) @ 4.59
6 52.3% Tatar_Crim (derived) + 47.7% Turk (derived) @ 4.62
7 54.7% Nogai (derived) + 45.3% Jew_Syria (derived) @ 4.63
8 53.1% Turkmen (derived) + 46.9% Sicilian (derived) @ 4.64
9 53.2% Turkmen (derived) + 46.8% Italian-South (derived) @ 4.69
10 55.1% Nogai (derived) + 44.9% Cypriot (derived) @ 4.69
11 80.2% Turk (derived) + 19.8% Colville (derived) @ 4.69
12 59.2% Nogai (derived) + 40.8% Sephardim (derived) @ 4.7
13 70.3% Greek_Azov (derived) + 29.7% Turkmen (derived) @ 4.73
14 61.6% Nogai (derived) + 38.4% Jew_Libya (derived) @ 4.74
15 63.5% Greek_Cretan (derived) + 36.5% Tadjik (derived) @ 4.75
16 58.7% Nogai (derived) + 41.3% Jew_Morocco (derived) @ 4.81
17 80.2% Turk (derived) + 19.8% Tatar (derived) @ 4.81
18 83% Turk (derived) + 17% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 4.82
19 53.8% Jew_Francestrale (derived) + 46.2% Tadjik (derived) @ 4.84
20 53.4% Turkmen (derived) + 46.6% Italian-Center (derived) @ 4.86


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 31.47
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 23.39
3 Near_East 13.96
4 North-East-European 12.43
5 East-Siberean 3.69
6 Samoedic 3.07
7 Indian 2.63
8 North-European-Mesolithic 1.98
9 Paleo-Siberian 1.42
10 East-South-Asian 1.28
11 North-Siberean 1.16
12 Indo-Iranian 1.13


Finished reading population data. 276 populations found.
22 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Azov @ 9.467493
2 Tatar_Crim @ 10.757578
3 Turk @ 11.598014
4 Greek_Cretan @ 15.694163
5 Nogai @ 16.832209
6 Cirkassian @ 16.869099
7 Costanoan @ 18.348459
8 Jew_Romania @ 18.421984
9 Greek_East @ 18.875332
10 Turkmen @ 18.960564
11 Azeri @ 19.070055
12 Kumyk @ 19.277248
13 Jew_Syria @ 20.005314
14 Greek_Center @ 20.076921
15 Balkarian @ 20.244677
16 Cypriot @ 20.332027
17 Lebanese @ 20.456432
18 Greek_North @ 20.595366
19 Greek_South @ 21.054754
20 Ashkenazim @ 21.102335

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Cretan +50% Turkmen @ 4.122051


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Jew_Francestrale +25% Lak +25% Uzbek @ 3.093781


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 NorthOssetian + Portugese + Syrian + Turkmen @ 2.650149
2 Greek_Cretan + Jew_Algeria + Nogai + Tadjik @ 2.757835
3 Iraqi + Kumyk + Portugese + Turkmen @ 2.774121
4 Iranian + Spaniard + Turk + Turkmen @ 2.794724
5 Corsican + Kumyk + Syrian + Turkmen @ 2.799745
6 Jew_Georgia + Kumyk + Portugese + Turkmen @ 2.831347
7 Cypriot + Jew_Francestrale + Nogai + Tadjik @ 2.833505
8 Lebanese + NorthOssetian + Portugese + Turkmen @ 2.835080
9 Balkarian + Iraqi + Portugese + Turkmen @ 2.835896
10 Azeri + Portugese + Turk + Turkmen @ 2.842890
11 Iraqi + NorthOssetian + Portugese + Turkmen @ 2.849566
12 Azeri + Iraqi + Spaniard + Turkmen @ 2.861005
13 Cirkassian + Corsican + Iraqi + Turkmen @ 2.866224
14 Balkarian + Corsican + Syrian + Turkmen @ 2.881735
15 Greek_Cretan + Jew_Libya + Nogai + Tadjik @ 2.892251
16 Ashkenazim_V + Jew_Algeria + NorthOssetian + Turkmen @ 2.898843
17 Ossetian + Portugese + Syrian + Turkmen @ 2.906010
18 Iberian + NorthOssetian + Syrian + Turkmen @ 2.912790
19 Kurd + Portugese + Turk + Turkmen @ 2.914846
20 Iberian + Iraqi + Kumyk + Turkmen @ 2.920659

PhuturePrimitive
10-30-2014, 06:07 AM
Just stumbled upon this thread... These are my father's MDLP World results, and to be quite frank, I'm not sure what they "mean"-- so maybe you can help? Outside of German and British Ancestry, my father has Portuguese ancestors from the 1500-1700s, but they eventually moved to Germany, and then finally settled here in the USA. The primary and secondary population list shows a clear-cut German/Jewish-Middle Eastern vibe, so I can only assume that our Portuguese ancestors were Sephardic Jews or at the very least "Conversos" or Crypto-Jews.



Kit A716752

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 46.26
2 North_and_East_European 39.95
3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.2
4 Middle_East 3.74
5 Indian 0.55
6 Paleo_African 0.15
7 Arctic_Amerind 0.13
8 Mesoamerican 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_V 0.87
2 Austrian 1.3
3 Slovenian 2.39
4 CEU_V 2.72
5 Hungarian 2.78
6 Croatian 3.5
7 CEU 4.01
8 Welsh 4.54
9 British 4.72
10 Czech 5.23
11 Orcadian 5.25
12 Bosnian 5.26
13 German-North 5.49
14 Norwegian_V 5.66
15 German 6.13
16 German-South 6.31
17 Slovakian 7
18 Croatian_V 7.28
19 Swedish 7.55
20 Serbian 8.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99.2% German_V + 0.8% Jew_Yemen @ 0.56
2 98.9% German_V + 1.1% Samaritian @ 0.56
3 84% German_V + 16% Croatian @ 0.56
4 98.6% German_V + 1.4% Jew_Morocco @ 0.58
5 98.7% German_V + 1.3% Jew_Libya @ 0.58
6 98.4% German_V + 1.6% Jew_France @ 0.58
7 98.5% German_V + 1.5% Jew_Italia @ 0.59
8 98.6% German_V + 1.4% Jew_Tunisia @ 0.59
9 98.5% German_V + 1.5% Sephardim @ 0.59
10 89.2% German_V + 10.8% Bosnian @ 0.59
11 97.5% German_V + 2.5% Ashkenazim_V @ 0.59
12 99.2% German_V + 0.8% Saudi @ 0.6
13 98.6% German_V + 1.4% Jew_Algeria @ 0.6
14 95% German_V + 5% Macedonian @ 0.61
15 98% German_V + 2% Jew_Romania @ 0.61
16 99% German_V + 1% Palestinian @ 0.61
17 99.2% German_V + 0.8% Bedouin @ 0.62
18 98.8% German_V + 1.2% Jew_Syria @ 0.62
19 98.7% German_V + 1.3% Cypriot @ 0.62
20 93.1% German_V + 6.9% Serbian @ 0.62

Salkin
10-30-2014, 09:15 AM
Mine:

Kit M606752

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 44.88
2 South_and_West_European 44.83
3 Caucaus_Parsia 6.1
4 Middle_East 1.86
5 Arctic_Amerind 1.22
6 Mesoamerican 0.62
7 North_Asian 0.49

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German-North 1.91
2 Swedish 2.38
3 Norwegian_V 2.72
4 Czech 2.82
5 Slovakian 3.67
6 German 3.76
7 CEU_V 3.78
8 Slovenian 4.43
9 Swedish_V 5.22
10 German_V 5.36
11 Welsh 5.49
12 CEU 6.21
13 Austrian 6.28
14 Hungarian 6.39
15 Orcadian 6.75
16 Croatian_V 6.9
17 Sorb 7.06
18 British 7.3
19 Croatian 7.82
20 Ukrainian-West 7.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.3% Swedish + 4.7% Ashkenazim @ 1.14
2 95.6% Swedish + 4.4% Costanoan @ 1.18
3 79.2% Swedish + 20.8% Croatian @ 1.23
4 95.7% Swedish + 4.3% Jew_France @ 1.23
5 95.9% Swedish + 4.1% Sephardim @ 1.24
6 82.5% CEU_V + 17.5% Lithuanian_V @ 1.24
7 67.8% Swedish + 32.2% Slovenian @ 1.24
8 83.3% Orcadian + 16.7% Finnish-North @ 1.24
9 95.7% Swedish + 4.3% Jew_Italia @ 1.25
10 82.9% Swedish + 17.1% Bosnian @ 1.25
11 93.5% Swedish + 6.5% Ashkenazim_V @ 1.25
12 85.5% CEU_V + 14.5% Estonian @ 1.26
13 94.7% Swedish + 5.3% Jew_Romania @ 1.26
14 89.4% Swedish + 10.6% Macedonian @ 1.26
15 95.1% Swedish + 4.9% Sicilian @ 1.27
16 96.2% Swedish + 3.8% Jew_Tunisia @ 1.27
17 96.1% Swedish + 3.9% Jew_Morocco @ 1.27
18 94.6% Swedish + 5.4% Italian-Center @ 1.28
19 66.7% Orcadian + 33.3% Russian_V @ 1.28
20 89% Swedish + 11% Montenegrin @ 1.28

Stephen1986
10-30-2014, 11:44 AM
Here's mine -

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 46.25
2 North_and_East_European 39.45
3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.29
4 Middle_East 1.88
5 Indian 1.08
6 Arctic_Amerind 0.92
7 Melanesian 0.52
8 North_Asian 0.3
9 Sub_Saharian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_V 1.52
2 Austrian 2.06
3 CEU_V 2.84
4 CEU 3.03
5 Slovenian 3.27
6 Hungarian 3.64
7 Welsh 3.85
8 British 3.95
9 Orcadian 4.5
10 Croatian 4.84
11 Norwegian_V 5.26
12 German-North 5.7
13 Czech 5.78
14 German 6.24
15 Bosnian 6.31
16 German-South 6.39
17 Swedish 7.45
18 Slovakian 7.53
19 Croatian_V 8.36
20 Serbian 8.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% Welsh + 6% Iranian @ 1.02
2 75.5% Norwegian_V + 24.5% Romania @ 1.17
3 93.6% Welsh + 6.4% Azeri @ 1.19
4 93.9% Welsh + 6.1% Kurd @ 1.21
5 77% British + 23% Latvian_V @ 1.26
6 95.9% CEU_V + 4.1% Abhkasian @ 1.27
7 55.3% CEU + 44.7% Hungarian @ 1.28
8 98.9% German_V + 1.1% Inuit-West @ 1.31
9 99.2% German_V + 0.8% Inuit-East @ 1.31
10 99.2% German_V + 0.8% Eskimo @ 1.31
11 98.9% German_V + 1.1% Chukchi @ 1.32
12 94.6% Welsh + 5.4% Parsi @ 1.32
13 94.4% Welsh + 5.6% Jew_Kurd @ 1.33
14 98.2% German_V + 1.8% Bra2 @ 1.33
15 79% German_V + 21% CEU @ 1.33
16 94.1% Welsh + 5.9% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 1.33
17 99.1% German_V + 0.9% Koryak @ 1.34
18 52.4% Hungarian + 47.6% British @ 1.37
19 99.2% German_V + 0.8% Australian @ 1.37
20 96% CEU_V + 4% Georgian_Imereti @ 1.37

And my brother's -


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 44.65
2 North_and_East_European 38.32
3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.8
4 Middle_East 4.02
5 Indian 1.62
6 Arctic_Amerind 0.81
7 Melanesian 0.57
8 Mesoamerican 0.11
9 Paleo_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 2.05
2 Austrian 2.31
3 Croatian 2.74
4 German_V 2.78
5 Slovenian 3.2
6 Bosnian 3.85
7 CEU_V 4.52
8 CEU 5.43
9 Czech 6.06
10 German-South 6.18
11 British 6.22
12 Welsh 6.28
13 German 6.55
14 German-North 6.74
15 Serbian 6.88
16 Orcadian 6.93
17 Croatian_V 7.1
18 Norwegian_V 7.17
19 Slovakian 7.75
20 Swedish 9.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.1% German-North + 31.9% Romania @ 0.81
2 96.5% Austrian + 3.5% Pathan @ 0.87
3 96.8% Austrian + 3.2% Balochi @ 0.89
4 96.9% Austrian + 3.1% Brahui @ 0.92
5 96.7% Austrian + 3.3% Burusho @ 0.94
6 96.4% Austrian + 3.6% Pashtun @ 0.95
7 96.9% Austrian + 3.1% Sindhi @ 0.96
8 97% Austrian + 3% Kalash @ 0.97
9 96.9% Austrian + 3.1% Makrani @ 1.02
10 96.7% Austrian + 3.3% Parsi @ 1.02
11 96% Austrian + 4% Tadjik @ 1.04
12 92.5% CEU_V + 7.5% Kurd @ 1.04
13 92.8% CEU_V + 7.2% Iranian @ 1.11
14 97% Austrian + 3% Jew_India @ 1.11
15 91.2% CEU_V + 8.8% Turk @ 1.14
16 96% German_V + 4% Parsi @ 1.15
17 92.7% CEU_V + 7.3% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 1.15
18 92.2% CEU_V + 7.8% Azeri @ 1.16
19 92.8% CEU_V + 7.2% Jew_Tat @ 1.17
20 92.8% CEU_V + 7.2% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1.19

Little bit
10-30-2014, 12:42 PM
I come up with more German than I usually do. Known ancestry is 75% UK (England, Scotland and Wales), 12.5% N Irish from Donegal, and 12.5% PA Dutch (mainly Germany w/some Swiss). Looks like I'm going to have to consult Wikipedia to figure out the locations of some of those secondary populations, certainly not the usual ancestries I get on these admixtures.

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 47.54
2 North_and_East_European 39.72
3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.73
4 Middle_East 1.53
5 Arctic_Amerind 0.56
6 Mesoamerican 0.54
7 Sub_Saharian 0.19
8 North_Asian 0.13
9 Indian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German_V 2.02
2 CEU 2.59
3 Austrian 2.65
4 British 3.05
5 CEU_V 3.07
6 Welsh 3.38
7 Orcadian 3.53
8 Slovenian 4.28
9 Hungarian 4.72
10 Norwegian_V 5.35
11 Croatian 5.61
12 German-North 6.13
13 German-South 6.26
14 Czech 6.57
15 Bosnian 7.06
16 German 7.08
17 Swedish 7.67
18 Slovakian 8.23
19 Serbian 9.16
20 Croatian_V 9.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.1% Welsh + 5.9% Georgian @ 1.23
2 94.1% Welsh + 5.9% Chechen @ 1.25
3 82.9% British + 17.1% Latvian_V @ 1.26
4 93.8% Welsh + 6.2% Adygei @ 1.27
5 64% German_V + 36% British @ 1.29
6 94.5% Welsh + 5.5% Lezgin @ 1.29
7 95.1% Welsh + 4.9% Georgian_Imereti @ 1.32
8 94% Welsh + 6% Kumyk @ 1.32
9 94.4% Welsh + 5.6% Tabassaran @ 1.34
10 93.7% Welsh + 6.3% Balkarian @ 1.34
11 94.2% Welsh + 5.8% NorthOssetian @ 1.35
12 68.5% German_V + 31.5% Orcadian @ 1.35
13 94.5% Welsh + 5.5% Lak @ 1.35
14 93.9% Welsh + 6.1% Kabardinian @ 1.35
15 94.4% Welsh + 5.6% Ossetian @ 1.36
16 94.7% Welsh + 5.3% Georgian_Laz @ 1.36
17 95% Welsh + 5% Abhkasian @ 1.37
18 93.5% Welsh + 6.5% Cirkassian @ 1.38
19 94.6% Welsh + 5.4% Azeri @ 1.4
20 94.5% Welsh + 5.5% Avar @ 1.41

Silesian
10-30-2014, 12:51 PM
# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 50.53
2 South_and_West_European 38.68
3 Caucaus_Parsia 7.67
4 Indian 1.42
5 Middle_East 1.36
6 Melanesian 0.35

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sorb 2


[I]# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.1% Sorb + 1.9% Kalash @ 1.44
2 63% Ukrainian-Center + 37% Swedish_V @ 1.45
3 72% Ukrainian-East + 28% Norwegian_V @ 1.48
4 97.8% Sorb + 2.2% Avar @ 1.57
5 64.6% Russian_South + 35.4% German-North @ 1.58
6 98% Sorb + 2% Pashtun @ 1.58
7 97.7% Sorb + 2.3% Tadjik @ 1.58
8 98.1% Sorb + 1.9% Pathan @ 1.59
9 97.9% Sorb + 2.1% Lak @ 1.6
10 97.9% Sorb + 2.1% Tabassaran @ 1.6


Most likely a coincidence, but interesting how this calculator uses areas with elevated ANE[Kalash/Avar/Takjik/Pathan/Lak and Tabassaran] and couples/combines Caucasus/Asia with Central/Eastern Europe[Sorb/Russian/Ukrain].

Little bit
10-30-2014, 02:29 PM
My Kashubian Polish mother-in-law get's Sorb @ a genetic distance of 2, as well, but her mixed mode sharing is different:


# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 50.05
2 South_and_West_European 40.07
3 Caucaus_Parsia 7.02
4 Middle_East 0.72
5 Mesoamerican 0.71
6 North_Asian 0.49
7 Arctic_Amerind 0.36
8 Melanesian 0.31
9 Indian 0.2
10 Sub_Saharian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sorb 2
2 Belarusian_V 3.09
3 Swedish_V 3.4
4 Polish_V 3.97
5 Ukrainian 4.41
6 Ukrainian-Center 4.41
7 Ukrainian_V 4.48
8 Ukrainian-West 4.48
9 Russian_cossack 4.83
10 Slovakian 4.84
11 Ukrainian-East 4.94
12 Russian_South 5.05
13 Swedish 5.63
14 German-North 5.97
15 Polish 6.01
16 German 6.24
17 Czech 6.65
18 Norwegian_V 7.43
19 Russian_V 7.63
20 Russian_Center 7.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.8% Russian_South + 40.2% Norwegian_V @ 1.03
2 52.8% Russian_South + 47.2% Swedish @ 1.04
3 72% Russian_South + 28% Orcadian @ 1.1
4 51.3% Norwegian_V + 48.7% Russian_Center @ 1.2
5 69.8% Russian_South + 30.2% Welsh @ 1.23
6 62.2% Russian_Center + 37.8% Orcadian @ 1.25
7 63.2% Russian_Center + 36.8% British @ 1.26
8 57.3% Swedish_V + 42.7% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.31
9 53.5% Ukrainian-East + 46.5% Swedish @ 1.33
10 73.1% Russian_South + 26.9% British @ 1.34
11 61.1% Russian_Center + 38.9% CEU @ 1.38
12 60.4% Swedish_V + 39.6% Ukrainian-East @ 1.38
13 71.3% Russian_South + 28.7% CEU @ 1.44
14 59.6% Russian_Center + 40.4% Welsh @ 1.45
15 57% German-North + 43% Russian_Center @ 1.46
16 55.8% Norwegian_V + 44.2% Russian @ 1.47
17 54.5% Russian_South + 45.5% German-North @ 1.48
18 61.4% German-North + 38.6% Russian @ 1.48
19 59% Russian + 41% British @ 1.5
20 73% Belarusian_V + 27% Norwegian_V @ 1.52

I did a comparison thread of her results from various companies and admixtures and the MDLP K23b Oracle seemed to be just right:
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3351-Kashubian-Polish-results

Torc Seanathair
11-26-2014, 01:21 PM
Would Caddo Indian show up as "Mesoamerican" in MDLP World-22? I'm trying to help an adoptee find her birth parents. She has a sprinkling of other Native American categories, but Mesoamerican shows up highest at 1.76%.
Does "Meso" pertain more to period or geography?

ZephyrousMandaru
05-25-2015, 12:07 AM
I created the four-way 4Mix version of MDLP K27.



[1] Target = 0% Iraq_Jew + 82% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 18% Druze @ D = 2.9281
[1] Target = 15% Iraq_Jew + 83% Iranian_Jew + 2% Georgian_Jew + 0% Syrian @ D = 2.9463
[1] Target = 0% Iraq_Jew + 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 22% Cypriot @ D = 2.9463
[1] Target = 15% Iraq_Jew + 83% Iranian_Jew + 2% Georgian_Jew + 0% Palestinian @ D = 2.9463
[1] Target = 15% Iraq_Jew + 83% Iranian_Jew + 2% Georgian_Jew + 0% Jordanian @ D = 2.9463
[1] Target = 29% Iraq_Jew + 57% Iranian_Jew + 3% Georgian_Jew + 11% Kurd @ D = 2.9463
[1] Target = 0% Iraq_Jew + 82% Iranian_Jew + 18% Druze + 0% Syrian @ D = 3.2416
[1] Target = 0% Iraq_Jew + 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Druze + 22% Cypriot @ D = 3.2416
[1] Target = 0% Iraq_Jew + 82% Iranian_Jew + 18% Druze + 0% Palestinian @ D = 3.2416
[1] Target = 0% Iraq_Jew + 82% Iranian_Jew + 18% Druze + 0% Jordanian @ D = 3.2416
[1] Target = 0% Iraq_Jew + 33% Iranian_Jew + 39% Druze + 28% Kurd @ D = 3.2416
[1] Target = 0% Iraq_Jew + 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 22% Cypriot @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 21% Iraq_Jew + 79% Iranian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 0% Palestinian @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 21% Iraq_Jew + 79% Iranian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 36% Iraq_Jew + 54% Iranian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 10% Kurd @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 0% Iraq_Jew + 78% Iranian_Jew + 22% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 0% Iraq_Jew + 78% Iranian_Jew + 22% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 9% Iraq_Jew + 44% Iranian_Jew + 27% Cypriot + 20% Kurd @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 21% Iraq_Jew + 79% Iranian_Jew + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 36% Iraq_Jew + 54% Iranian_Jew + 0% Palestinian + 10% Kurd @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 36% Iraq_Jew + 54% Iranian_Jew + 0% Jordanian + 10% Kurd @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 97% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 3% Druze + 0% Syrian @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 80% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 0% Druze + 20% Cypriot @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 97% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 3% Druze + 0% Palestinian @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 97% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 3% Druze + 0% Jordanian @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 18% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 44% Druze + 38% Kurd @ D = 3.5808
[1] Target = 80% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 20% Cypriot @ D = 4.1759
[1] Target = 100% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 0% Palestinian @ D = 4.1759
[1] Target = 100% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 4.1759
[1] Target = 74% Iraq_Jew + 2% Georgian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 24% Kurd @ D = 4.1759
[1] Target = 80% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 20% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian @ D = 4.3904
[1] Target = 80% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 20% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian @ D = 4.3904
[1] Target = 41% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 28% Cypriot + 31% Kurd @ D = 4.3904
[1] Target = 100% Iraq_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 4.3904
[1] Target = 74% Iraq_Jew + 2% Georgian_Jew + 0% Palestinian + 24% Kurd @ D = 4.3904
[1] Target = 74% Iraq_Jew + 2% Georgian_Jew + 0% Jordanian + 24% Kurd @ D = 4.5639
[1] Target = 80% Iraq_Jew + 0% Druze + 0% Syrian + 20% Cypriot @ D = 4.5639
[1] Target = 97% Iraq_Jew + 3% Druze + 0% Syrian + 0% Palestinian @ D = 4.5639
[1] Target = 97% Iraq_Jew + 3% Druze + 0% Syrian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 4.5639
[1] Target = 18% Iraq_Jew + 44% Druze + 0% Syrian + 38% Kurd @ D = 4.658
[1] Target = 80% Iraq_Jew + 0% Druze + 20% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian @ D = 4.658
[1] Target = 80% Iraq_Jew + 0% Druze + 20% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian @ D = 4.658
[1] Target = 41% Iraq_Jew + 0% Druze + 28% Cypriot + 31% Kurd @ D = 4.658
[1] Target = 97% Iraq_Jew + 3% Druze + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 4.658
[1] Target = 18% Iraq_Jew + 44% Druze + 0% Palestinian + 38% Kurd @ D = 4.658
[1] Target = 18% Iraq_Jew + 44% Druze + 0% Jordanian + 38% Kurd @ D = 5.0158
[1] Target = 80% Iraq_Jew + 0% Syrian + 20% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian @ D = 5.0158
[1] Target = 80% Iraq_Jew + 0% Syrian + 20% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.0158
[1] Target = 41% Iraq_Jew + 0% Syrian + 28% Cypriot + 31% Kurd @ D = 5.0158
[1] Target = 100% Iraq_Jew + 0% Syrian + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.0158
[1] Target = 77% Iraq_Jew + 0% Syrian + 0% Palestinian + 23% Kurd @ D = 5.0158
[1] Target = 77% Iraq_Jew + 0% Syrian + 0% Jordanian + 23% Kurd @ D = 5.0158
[1] Target = 80% Iraq_Jew + 20% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.0158
[1] Target = 41% Iraq_Jew + 28% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian + 31% Kurd @ D = 5.0158
[1] Target = 41% Iraq_Jew + 28% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian + 31% Kurd @ D = 5.0158
[1] Target = 77% Iraq_Jew + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian + 23% Kurd @ D = 5.1959
[1] Target = 82% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 18% Druze + 0% Syrian @ D = 5.1959
[1] Target = 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 0% Druze + 22% Cypriot @ D = 5.1959
[1] Target = 82% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 18% Druze + 0% Palestinian @ D = 5.2311
[1] Target = 82% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 18% Druze + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.2311
[1] Target = 33% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 39% Druze + 28% Kurd @ D = 5.2469
[1] Target = 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 22% Cypriot @ D = 5.2522
[1] Target = 96% Iranian_Jew + 4.00% Georgian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 0% Palestinian @ D = 5.2909
[1] Target = 96% Iranian_Jew + 4.00% Georgian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.2909
[1] Target = 89% Iranian_Jew + 5% Georgian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 6.00% Kurd @ D = 5.2909
[1] Target = 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 22% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian @ D = 5.3585
[1] Target = 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 22% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.3585
[1] Target = 54% Iranian_Jew + 0% Georgian_Jew + 28% Cypriot + 18% Kurd @ D = 5.3585
[1] Target = 96% Iranian_Jew + 4.00% Georgian_Jew + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.3604
[1] Target = 89% Iranian_Jew + 5% Georgian_Jew + 0% Palestinian + 6.00% Kurd @ D = 5.3604
[1] Target = 89% Iranian_Jew + 5% Georgian_Jew + 0% Jordanian + 6.00% Kurd @ D = 5.3604
[1] Target = 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Druze + 0% Syrian + 22% Cypriot @ D = 5.3784
[1] Target = 82% Iranian_Jew + 18% Druze + 0% Syrian + 0% Palestinian @ D = 5.3784
[1] Target = 82% Iranian_Jew + 18% Druze + 0% Syrian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.3784
[1] Target = 33% Iranian_Jew + 39% Druze + 0% Syrian + 28% Kurd @ D = 5.3962
[1] Target = 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Druze + 22% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian @ D = 5.3962
[1] Target = 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Druze + 22% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.3962
[1] Target = 54% Iranian_Jew + 0% Druze + 28% Cypriot + 18% Kurd @ D = 5.4309
[1] Target = 82% Iranian_Jew + 18% Druze + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.4309
[1] Target = 33% Iranian_Jew + 39% Druze + 0% Palestinian + 28% Kurd @ D = 5.4426
[1] Target = 33% Iranian_Jew + 39% Druze + 0% Jordanian + 28% Kurd @ D = 5.445
[1] Target = 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 22% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian @ D = 5.5335
[1] Target = 78% Iranian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 22% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.5335
[1] Target = 54% Iranian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 28% Cypriot + 18% Kurd @ D = 5.5335
[1] Target = 96% Iranian_Jew + 2.00% Syrian + 2% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.5515
[1] Target = 91% Iranian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 5% Palestinian + 4.00% Kurd @ D = 5.5515
[1] Target = 93% Iranian_Jew + 5.00% Syrian + 0% Jordanian + 2% Kurd @ D = 5.5515
[1] Target = 78% Iranian_Jew + 22% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.7952
[1] Target = 54% Iranian_Jew + 28% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian + 18% Kurd @ D = 5.7952
[1] Target = 54% Iranian_Jew + 28% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian + 18% Kurd @ D = 5.7952
[1] Target = 91% Iranian_Jew + 5% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian + 4.00% Kurd @ D = 5.7952
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 45% Druze + 39% Syrian + 16% Cypriot @ D = 5.7952
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 64% Druze + 36% Syrian + 0% Palestinian @ D = 5.7952
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 64% Druze + 36% Syrian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 5.7952
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 56% Druze + 0% Syrian + 44% Kurd @ D = 5.7952
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 93% Druze + 7.00% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian @ D = 5.7952
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 79% Druze + 10% Cypriot + 11% Jordanian @ D = 5.7952
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 36% Druze + 19% Cypriot + 45% Kurd @ D = 6.6907
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 90% Druze + 0% Palestinian + 10% Jordanian @ D = 6.6907
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 56% Druze + 0% Palestinian + 44% Kurd @ D = 6.6907
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 56% Druze + 0% Jordanian + 44% Kurd @ D = 6.6907
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 59% Syrian + 41% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian @ D = 6.6907
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 59% Syrian + 41% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian @ D = 6.6907
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 7% Syrian + 44% Cypriot + 49% Kurd @ D = 6.6957
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 100% Syrian + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 6.6957
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 0% Syrian + 42% Palestinian + 58% Kurd @ D = 6.6957
[1] Target = 18% Georgian_Jew + 23% Syrian + 0% Jordanian + 59% Kurd @ D = 6.6957
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 57% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian + 43% Jordanian @ D = 8.8742
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 43% Cypriot + 6% Palestinian + 51% Kurd @ D = 8.8742
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 45% Cypriot + 4% Jordanian + 51% Kurd @ D = 8.8742
[1] Target = 0% Georgian_Jew + 42% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian + 58% Kurd @ D = 9.1709
[1] Target = 45% Druze + 39% Syrian + 16% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian @ D = 10.0401
[1] Target = 45% Druze + 39% Syrian + 16% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian @ D = 10.0401
[1] Target = 36% Druze + 0% Syrian + 19% Cypriot + 45% Kurd @ D = 10.0401
[1] Target = 64% Druze + 36% Syrian + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 10.1714
[1] Target = 56% Druze + 0% Syrian + 0% Palestinian + 44% Kurd @ D = 10.1714
[1] Target = 56% Druze + 0% Syrian + 0% Jordanian + 44% Kurd @ D = 10.1714
[1] Target = 79% Druze + 10% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian + 11% Jordanian @ D = 10.5662
[1] Target = 36% Druze + 19% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian + 45% Kurd @ D = 10.5662
[1] Target = 36% Druze + 19% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian + 45% Kurd @ D = 10.5662
[1] Target = 56% Druze + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian + 44% Kurd @ D = 10.9053
[1] Target = 59% Syrian + 41% Cypriot + 0% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian @ D = 10.9053
[1] Target = 0% Syrian + 43% Cypriot + 6% Palestinian + 51% Kurd @ D = 10.953
[1] Target = 7% Syrian + 44% Cypriot + 0% Jordanian + 49% Kurd @ D = 11.0101
[1] Target = 0% Syrian + 42% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian + 58% Kurd @ D = 12.487
[1] Target = 43% Cypriot + 6% Palestinian + 0% Jordanian + 51% Kurd @ D = 12.7286

Xtian
06-21-2017, 11:49 AM
Hi

Can anyone help me analyse my results?

I am Southern Russian, lower don region.


My MDLP k 23b results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 44.66
2 Caucasian 24.90
3 European_Early_Farmers 11.07
4 South_Central_Asian 7.87
5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.96
6 Tungus-Altaic 1.74
7 Amerindian 1.54
8 Austronesian 1.16


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moksha @ 6.669492
2 German @ 8.257714
3 Slovak @ 8.327030
4 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 8.579754
5 Czech @ 8.827950
6 Erzya @ 8.921965
7 Ukrainian_West @ 9.043988
8 Swede_Saami @ 9.126215
9 Finn_West @ 9.335941
10 Russian_North @ 9.817942
11 Hungarian_Budapest @ 10.057739
12 Kashub @ 10.290178
13 Hungarian @ 10.465358
14 Russian-Upper-Volga @ 10.497287
15 Slovenian @ 10.628199
16 Russian-West @ 11.063663
17 Belarusian_West @ 11.518283
18 Russian_South @ 11.580383
19 Sorb @ 11.588119
20 Belarusian-East @ 11.617687

Comment: Russia south is really low, Moksha is actually a language spoken by Mordvins like Ezyra but these people are from Central Russia and are not Slavic. Am I genetically close to them? what does it mean being the highest? Second is German-
surely that is totally different !

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Moksha +50% Swede_Saami @ 4.961606

Wow this is really unexpected suggesting I am more finno-ugric than slavic?

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% Icelandic +25% Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.606846
Weird

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Estonian + Estonian + Icelandic + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.606846
2 Estonian + Icelandic + Latvian + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.648022
3 Latvian + Latvian + Orcadian + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.684544
4 Estonian + Latvian + Orcadian + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.702151
5 Estonian + Estonian + Norwegian_West + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.747938
6 Estonian + Latvian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.764308
7 Latvian + Latvian + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.787911
8 Estonian + Latvian + Norwegian_West + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.796377
9 Icelandic + Latvian + Latvian + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.813823
10 Estonian + Estonian + Orcadian + Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 2.846254

Not one of these seems familiar to me

Kurki
01-22-2018, 05:47 PM
MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 43.52
2 European_Early_Farmers 21.38
3 Caucasian 20.62
4 Ancestral_Altaic 6.17
5 South_Central_Asian 6.03
6 Melano_Polynesian 1.09
7 Amerindian 1.02


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Dane_ 3.185114
2 Swede_ 3.906805
3 Swede_Saami_ 4.455693
4 North_German_ 4.792883
5 Norwegian_East_ 5.620425
6 Dutch_ 6.175874
7 Icelandic_ 7.654459
8 Norwegian_West_ 7.800983
9 Austrian_ 8.778383
10 German_ 9.435330
11 South_German_ 9.571263
12 Frisian_ 9.630730
13 North_European_ 9.756533
14 Belgian_ 9.816938
15 English_ 10.124168
16 Irish_ 10.203930
17 Finn_West_ 10.319640
18 Hungarian_ 10.458617
19 Slovenian_ 10.837602
20 German-Volga_ 11.294578

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Swede_ +50% Swede_Saami_ 2.444786


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Icelandic_ +25% Irish_ +25% Mordovian_ 2.167296

I like the MDLPs. I wish this one had four population. It nails my ancestry in the single population, good specificity. Sometimes I think Denmark is left out as a reference; and then even North German.. great stuff. We also had family in the area shared by southern Sami in Sweden but I think my dad would need to do a full DNA test to really know. I think I have east euro on my mtDNA but am waiting for FTDNA (couple sources have me at W, possibly W3a, which would not be very common in Scandinavia but would explain the Belarus and Ukraine showing up in admixtures..

MDLP World (far less Scandinavian but I'd believe some family came out of Germany and Russia, likely W. Russia).

1 German + Russian_South + Polish + German_V 0.515881
2 Inkeri + Sorb + German_V + German_V 0.558988
3 Inkeri + Polish_V + Croatian + British 0.568439
4 German-North + German + Russian_South + Belarusian_V 0.629393
5 Ukrainian_V + Ukrainian_V + Polish + Orcadian 0.639524
6 Inkeri + Welsh + Ukrainian-Center + German_V 0.656788
7 Bosnian + Inkeri + Polish_V + Orcadian 0.659754
8 German + Ukrainian_V + Swedish + Polish_V 0.661498
9 German + German + Latvian + German_V 0.661981
10 German-North + German + Ukrainian_V + Polish 0.664084
11 Inkeri + Russian_South + Croatian + Orcadian 0.674948
12 German-North + Inkeri + Slovakian + German_V 0.678809
13 German + Ukrainian_V + Lithuanian_V + German_V 0.687113

MDLP K16: (Scandinavian and a little Baltic, which is what the DNA tests say, along with a little East Euro or north Slavic)

1 Belarusian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian 1.692830
2 Dutch + Icelandic + Lithuanian + Orcadian 1.709911
3 Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Scottish 1.733932
4 Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Shetlandic 1.745389
5 Icelandic + Lithuanian + Norwegian + Scottish 1.746287
6 Irish + Lithuanian + Norwegian + Norwegian 1.751823
7 Belarusian + Icelandic + Norwegian + Norwegian 1.753175
8 Icelandic + Lithuanian + Norwegian + Shetlandic 1.753804
9 Lithuanian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Shetlandic 1.755558
10 Latvian + Orcadian+ Orcadian + Pole_EastPoland 1.769744