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03-23-2018, 12:23 PM
Hi all, I was intrigued to read about the Altacama skeleton being DNA tested:-

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http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43489246
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atacama_skeleton

Does anybody know what the MtDNA Haplogroup result was?

ArmandoR1b
03-23-2018, 07:44 PM
The PDF at https://genome.cshlp.org/content/early/2018/03/21/gr.223693.117 states that it was B2. I haven't looked at the Supplementary Files yet.

03-23-2018, 07:47 PM
The PDF at https://genome.cshlp.org/content/early/2018/03/21/gr.223693.117 states that it was B2. I haven't looked at the Supplementary Files yet.

Thanks Armando, will be interesting to have your take on it.

ArmandoR1b
03-23-2018, 07:59 PM
Supplementary Files don't mention a subclade of B2 or the mtDNA positions. The WGS of Atacama Specimen at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/?term=SRP083100 is 21.9GB. We'll have to wait until someone can download it then extract and process the mtDNA to see if a subclade of B2 can be found.

03-23-2018, 08:07 PM
Supplementary Files don't mention a subclade of B2 or the mtDNA positions. The WGS of Atacama Specimen at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/?term=SRP083100 is 21.9GB. We'll have to wait until someone can download it then extract and process the mtDNA to see if a subclade of B2 can be found.

This whole skeleton, is just so incredible, and poses much more questions than answers, I’m really lost for words.

spruithean
03-24-2018, 12:19 AM
I was more surprised to learn this was actually real! Fascinating stuff!

Geborgenheit
03-30-2018, 10:31 PM
Isn't B2 typical for South-East Asia ?

Fascinating!

RasulSrg
07-02-2018, 01:21 PM
Autosomal DNA of Atacama skeleton, Chile

Gedmatch: Z449559 Gedmatch genesis: HJ4686698

I am owner of kits.

And this is K47 calculator by LukaszM
25.02% Andean
13.95% Meso-Amerind
11.33% North-Iberian
5.36% Scando-Germanic
5.02% Amazonian
4.37% Celtic
4.35% West-Med
4.21% East-Med
4.07% North-Amerind
3.41% East-Euro
3.12% North-African
2.64% Arabic
2.55% East-Iberian
2.25% Volgan
1.43% West-Finnic
1.40% Paleo-Balkan
1.28% Baltic
1.00% North-Sea_Germanic
0.99% South-Caucasian
0.73% Malay
0.47% Pamirian
0.45% Omotic
0.44% Iranian
0.16% Uralic
0.01% Central-Med
0.01% North-Caucasian

RasulSrg
07-02-2018, 01:21 PM
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ArmandoR1b
07-02-2018, 09:29 PM
Isn't B2 typical for South-East Asia ?

Fascinating!

No, B2 is typical of Native Americans. South-East Asia has B4.

ArmandoR1b
07-02-2018, 09:45 PM
Autosomal DNA of Atacama skeleton, Chile

Gedmatch: Z449559 Gedmatch genesis: HJ4686698

I am owner of kits.
Were you able to extract the mtDNA?

07-03-2018, 09:32 AM
Seems to be a high North Atlantic and West Med, for a Native American?
Native woman with Northern Spanish father?


Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

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Questions about results should be sent to him at: [email protected]
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 49.20
2 North_Atlantic 17.70
3 West_Med 16.42
4 East_Med 4.96
5 Baltic 4.30
6 West_Asian 3.18
7 Red_Sea 3.00

lukaszM
07-12-2018, 09:23 AM
Autosomal DNA of Atacama skeleton, Chile

Gedmatch: Z449559 Gedmatch genesis: HJ4686698

I am owner of kits.

And this is K47 calculator by LukaszM
25.02% Andean
13.95% Meso-Amerind
11.33% North-Iberian
5.36% Scando-Germanic
5.02% Amazonian
4.37% Celtic
4.35% West-Med
4.21% East-Med
4.07% North-Amerind
3.41% East-Euro
3.12% North-African
2.64% Arabic
2.55% East-Iberian
2.25% Volgan
1.43% West-Finnic
1.40% Paleo-Balkan
1.28% Baltic
1.00% North-Sea_Germanic
0.99% South-Caucasian
0.73% Malay
0.47% Pamirian
0.45% Omotic
0.44% Iranian
0.16% Uralic
0.01% Central-Med
0.01% North-Caucasian

Ignoring skeleton (hmm) it's pretty much typical mestizo autosomally.

Ethereal
07-14-2018, 03:03 AM
The wet dream of all Stormfags out there, “MUH WHITE GODS”, is, in my opinion, almost definitely true to some extent. Perhaps this is some evidence of this - we’ve already seen evidence from DNA analysis of the Chinchorro mummies. I wonder whether this information will be kept under wraps, but to anybody with Google and the will to learn, the conclusion is obvious. Swastikas and naturally light-haired mummies don’t end up in the Americas by sheer coincidence...

RasulSrg
07-17-2018, 06:54 PM
Were you able to extract the mtDNA?
Yes, there was a text file, it said B2. I have deleted everything except filtered autosomal data, because bamfile was 50gb, and her whole genome file was 2 or 3 times bigger, i just dont have so much space on my drive to store everything.

lukaszM
07-17-2018, 08:18 PM
The wet dream of all Stormfags out there, “MUH WHITE GODS”, is, in my opinion, almost definitely true to some extent. Perhaps this is some evidence of this - we’ve already seen evidence from DNA analysis of the Chinchorro mummies. I wonder whether this information will be kept under wraps, but to anybody with Google and the will to learn, the conclusion is obvious. Swastikas and naturally light-haired mummies don’t end up in the Americas by sheer coincidence...

Atacama mummy is said to be from XX century... It was just monstrous fetus, left and naturally mummified on desert.

Nive1526
07-17-2018, 08:53 PM
I am a bit surprised by the almost exactly 50% Amerindian, which would suggest that the mother was 100% native South American and the father 100% European.
But the small and mixed segments in the chromosome painting does not look like recent admixture, is the 50/50 ratio just by chance?

RasulSrg
07-19-2018, 09:59 AM
Faulty science and ethics cited in DNA analyzes of Atacama mummy

As experts in human anatomy and skeletal development, the Otago-led research team found no evidence for any of the skeletal anomalies reported by the Stanford researchers. All the abnormal characteristics cited by the Stanford researchers are part of normal skeletal development of a fetus, the Otago-led research team say.

"Unfortunately, there was no scientific rationale to undertake genomic analyses of Ata because the skeleton is normal, the identified genetic mutations are possibly coincidental, and none of the genetic mutations are known to be strongly associated with skeletal pathology that would affect the skeleton at this young age," Associate Professor Halcrow says.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/07/180718104811.htm

RasulSrg
07-19-2018, 10:55 AM
I am a bit surprised by the almost exactly 50% Amerindian, which would suggest that the mother was 100% native South American and the father 100% European.
But the small and mixed segments in the chromosome painting does not look like recent admixture, is the 50/50 ratio just by chance?
I have autosomal dna results of 15000 and 5000 y. old bones from southern Spain and Morocco, they have scando-german admix, (i use Lucaszs K47 calculator), so it means that Spanish colonists brought that admix to chile. This is all i can say.

pegasus
07-22-2018, 04:34 PM
Its nothing more than a result of a Mesoamerican mother and a Conquistador Father, proof is in the pudding.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 American 49.34
2 Mediterranean 19.69
3 NE-Euro 15.14
4 Caucasian 7.65
5 SW-Asian 3.5
6 Baloch 2.6
7 Beringian 0.69
8 W-African 0.52
9 SE-Asian 0.46
10 Papuan 0.32
11 Siberian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 mexican (1000genomes) 5.46
2 ecuadorian (bryc) 6.12
3 colombian (bryc) 20.17
4 colombian (1000genomes) 28.11
5 peruvian (1000genomes) 34.54
6 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 41.99
7 puerto-rican (bryc) 42.32
8 maya (hgdp) 47.84
9 bolivian (xing) 47.89
10 totonac (xing) 53.97
11 pima (hgdp) 54.65
12 tuscan (hgdp) 57.78
13 tuscan (1000genomes) 57.92
14 tuscan (hapmap) 57.94
15 italian (hgdp) 58.01
16 romanian-a (behar) 58.29
17 ashkenazi (harappa) 58.51
18 dominican (bryc) 58.61
19 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 58.78
20 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 58.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.7% peruvian (1000genomes) + 37.3% italian (hgdp) @ 2.54
2 54.8% maya (hgdp) + 45.2% italian (hgdp) @ 2.83
3 54.8% bolivian (xing) + 45.2% italian (hgdp) @ 3.08
4 55.4% maya (hgdp) + 44.6% spaniard (behar) @ 3.09
5 52.4% totonac (xing) + 47.6% spaniard (behar) @ 3.14