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anderson.clayton
05-22-2018, 12:41 AM
Hello All!

My test came with a high balkans percentage and I'm a little confused about it. I've tested my uncle and my sister too, in order to see if this is a common trace in my family.

I'm Brazilian and I noticed in many cases, the high Balkans percentages are related to North Italian, but until now I can't find out who is the ancestor that's came from Italy (if it's the case). I know my origins from: Portugal, Spain (Galicia), Native American and Africa.

There is a great-grand father was born in a city with high italians migration, but I don't know much more about him, that's because he has gone away when my grandmother was a child.

Is there a possible the high balkan percentage came from a Galicia (Spain)?

I mean, is there a possibility that people from Galicia has a high Balkan percentage came from Roman invasion?

DNA.land:
Me:

Balkans 29%
Southwestern European 29% (Southwestern European 22% and Sardinian 6.5%)
Northwest European 7.1%
North Slavic 1.1%

Sister:
Balkan 10%
Mediterranean Islander 6.4%
Northwest European 11%
Southwestern European 27% (Southwestern European 22% and Sardinian 5.5%)

Uncle:
Balkan 12%
Central Indoeuropean 8.4%
Ashkenazi 6.2%
Northwest European 15%
Southwestern European 18% (Sardinian 11% and Southwestern European 6.8%)

Thank you!

JerryS.
05-22-2018, 01:19 AM
what do your GEDmatch results show?

anderson.clayton
05-22-2018, 01:54 AM
JerryS,


Mine Gedmatch (MDLP K16 Modern):
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Swiss_Switzerland - 23.338036
2 Italian_Friul - 24.140936
3 Portuguese_Portugal - 24.344828
4 Austrian_Austria - 24.897797
5 Italian_NorthIitaly - 25.039074
6 German_SouthGermany - 25.393808
7 Provencal_Provence - 25.531473
8 Jew_Belmonte - 25.567829
9 Corsican_Corsica - 26.124207
10 Romanian_Romania - 26.171337
11 Spanish_Canarias - 26.636492
12 Slovenian_Slovenia - 26.830809
13 Romanian_Gorj - 26.859037
14 German_NorthGermany - 26.940210
15 Dane_Denmark - 26.960508
16 Spanish_Spain - 27.149990
17 Romanian_Apuseni - 27.245701
18 Moldavian_Molodva - 27.272032
19 Jew_Ashkenazi - 27.408825
20 Irish_Ireland - 27.536055

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Bergamo +50% Siddi_Makran - 14.733889


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Friul +25% Mandenka_Gambia +25% Spanish_Canarias - 5.358605

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + German_Germany + Spanish_Canarias - 4.289444
2 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + French_France + Spanish_Canarias - 4.392302
3 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + French_NorthwestFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.394270
4 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + French_WestFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.396785
5 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + French_EastFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.421922
6 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + German_Germany + Spanish_Canarias - 4.439460
7 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Borders + Spanish_Canarias - 4.441944
8 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + German_SouthGermany + Spanish_Canarias - 4.481792
9 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Spanish_Canarias + Welsh_Wales - 4.489603
10 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Spanish_Spain + Spanish_Canarias - 4.506852
11 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway + Spanish_Canarias - 4.517230
12 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Fife + Spanish_Canarias - 4.529811
13 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + German_SouthGermany + Spanish_Canarias - 4.530680
14 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + English_Kent + Spanish_Canarias - 4.533185
15 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Highlands + Spanish_Canarias - 4.543800
16 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Connacht + Spanish_Canarias - 4.549584
17 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + French_NorthwestFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.566095
18 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + French_EastFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.578096
19 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + Spanish_Canarias + Welsh_Wales - 4.581976
20 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + French_WestFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.582913

Sister Gedmatch (MDLP K16 Modern):
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Swiss_Switzerland - 23.217958
2 Portuguese_Portugal - 24.093533
3 Austrian_Austria - 24.175751
4 Italian_Friul - 24.233547
5 German_SouthGermany - 24.666508
6 Provencal_Provence - 24.970304
7 Italian_NorthIitaly - 25.433640
8 Dane_Denmark - 25.604822
9 German_NorthGermany - 25.805923
10 Irish_Ireland - 25.849266
11 Romanian_Romania - 26.208149
12 Slovenian_Slovenia - 26.281935
13 Corsican_Corsica - 26.547745
14 Spanish_Spain - 26.628551
15 French_NorthwestFrance - 26.636002
16 Jew_Belmonte - 26.699312
17 Czech_Czechia - 26.752451
18 Spanish_Extremadura - 26.830324
19 French_EastFrance - 26.890461
20 Romanian_Gorj - 26.918465

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Siddi_Makran +50% Spanish_Spain - 16.242092

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Mandenka_Gambia +25% Tlingit_NA - 8.814117

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Afroamerican_Denver + Jew_Ashkenazi + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Tlingit_NA - 7.560325
2 Afroamerican_Denver + Jew_Ashkenazi + French_SouthFrance + Tlingit_NA - 7.571319
3 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Spanish_Murcia - 7.579781
4 Afroamerican_Denver + Jew_Ashkenazi + Irish_Ireland + Spanish_Murcia - 7.583842
5 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Cork_Kerry + Spanish_Murcia - 7.607955
6 Afroamerican_Denver + French_SouthFrance + Maltese_Malta + Tlingit_NA - 7.610218
7 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Connacht + Spanish_Murcia - 7.610985
8 Afroamerican_Denver + Maltese_Malta + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Tlingit_NA - 7.626834
9 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Spanish_Murcia - 7.628443
10 Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Athens + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Tlingit_NA - 7.656680
11 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Ireland + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha - 7.662247
12 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Ulster + Spanish_Murcia - 7.662861
13 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Highlands + Spanish_Murcia - 7.672673
14 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Munster + Spanish_Murcia - 7.675920
15 Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Basque_Spain + Greek_Greece + Tlingit_NA - 7.676030
16 Afroamerican_Denver + Basque_Spain + Greek_Greece + Tlingit_NA - 7.681037
17 Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Greece + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Tlingit_NA - 7.682325
18 Afroamerican_Denver + Jew_Ashkenazi + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Tlingit_NA - 7.683559
19 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Ireland + Spanish_Cantabria - 7.687288
20 Afroamerican_Denver + French_SouthFrance + Italian_SouthItaly + Tlingit_NA - 7.689107

Uncle Gedmatch (MDLP K16 Modern):
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Yemeni_Yemen - 31.960236
2 Swiss_Switzerland - 34.921535
3 Italian_Friul - 35.560791
4 Moroccan_Morocco - 35.835590
5 Austrian_Austria - 35.861839
6 Portuguese_Portugal - 36.045979
7 Italian_NorthIitaly - 36.277172
8 German_SouthGermany - 36.406143
9 Jew_Belmonte - 36.878937
10 Provencal_Provence - 36.995983
11 Romanian_Romania - 37.074909
12 Jew_Ashkenazi - 37.317104
13 German_NorthGermany - 37.336899
14 Dane_Denmark - 37.449993
15 Corsican_Corsica - 37.586838
16 Slovenian_Slovenia - 37.745487
17 Irish_Ireland - 37.904613
18 Czech_Czechia - 38.118450
19 Spanish_Canarias - 38.228943
20 Romanian_Gorj - 38.251801

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Afroamerican_Denver +50% Italian_Bergamo - 5.219234

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Afroamerican_Denver +25% Greek_Greece +25% Spanish_Cantabria - 5.068293

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Greece + Spanish_Cantabria - 5.068293
2 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Athens + Spanish_Aragon - 5.069493
3 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Greece + Spanish_Aragon - 5.074394
4 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Athens + Spanish_Cantabria - 5.098821
5 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Italian_Tuscany + Spanish_Baleares - 5.099251
6 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Athens + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha - 5.107294
7 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Thessaloniki + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha - 5.115604
8 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Thessaloniki + Spanish_Andalucia - 5.128214
9 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Thessaloniki + Spanish_Murcia - 5.133822
10 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Albanian_Albania + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha - 5.141482
11 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Albanian_Albania + Spanish_Andalucia - 5.154990
12 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Greece + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha - 5.169680
13 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Albanian_Albania + Spanish_Murcia - 5.175285
14 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany - 5.210610
15 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Greece + Spanish_Andalucia - 5.216685
16 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Athens + Spanish_Valencia - 5.217589
17 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo - 5.219234
18 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Cataluna - 5.219709
19 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Andalucia - 5.233586
20 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Thessaloniki + Spanish_Extremadura - 5.233607

JerryS.
05-22-2018, 02:03 AM
try the Eurogenes K13. its a good model for north regions of Europe and has an American Indian detector of sorts. Eurogenes has difficulty picking up Italian/Greek as minor ethnicities, so if it still shows then you have a substantial amount. you will also find the MDLP K23b useful for Mediterranean groups but it seems to be slanted (by design?) for the Balkans and Caucuses.

anderson.clayton
05-22-2018, 02:16 AM
Mine Gedmatch (Eurogenes K13)
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Extremadura - 27.816790
2 North_Italian - 27.861929
3 Portuguese - 28.041199
4 Spanish_Galicia - 28.236368
5 Tuscan - 28.940859
6 Spanish_Murcia - 29.042185
7 Spanish_Andalucia - 29.231358
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon - 29.452793
9 Spanish_Valencia - 29.863432
10 Spanish_Cataluna - 29.921719
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha - 30.246119
12 Spanish_Cantabria - 30.644777
13 West_Sicilian - 30.748785
14 Mozabite_Berber - 30.797615
15 Greek_Thessaly - 31.263800
16 Romanian - 31.646641
17 Algerian - 31.922369
18 Italian_Abruzzo - 31.931843
19 Bulgarian - 32.040180
20 French - 32.049240

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bantu_N.E. +50% Southwest_French - 19.751307

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_French +25% West_Sicilian +25% Yoruban - 7.161878

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Mandenka + South_Italian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French - 6.892052
2 South_Italian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Yoruban - 6.984619
3 South_Italian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Yoruban - 6.984619
4 Mandenka + South_Italian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria - 6.997674
5 Irish + Mandenka + Sardinian + Tuscan - 6.999237
6 Bantu_S.W. + South_Italian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French - 7.004494
7 East_Sicilian + Mandenka + Southwest_French + Southwest_French - 7.009865
8 Irish + Mandenka + Sardinian + West_Sicilian - 7.046189
9 Mandenka + Orcadian + Sardinian + Tuscan - 7.061708
10 East_Sicilian + Mandenka + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria - 7.065010
11 East_Sicilian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Yoruban - 7.066548
12 East_Sicilian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Yoruban - 7.066548
13 Mandenka + Sardinian + Tuscan + West_Scottish - 7.067863
14 Central_Greek + Mandenka + Southwest_French + Southwest_French - 7.068944
15 Irish + Sardinian + Tuscan + Yoruban - 7.069872
16 Irish + Sardinian + Tuscan + Yoruban - 7.069872
17 Mandenka + Sardinian + West_Scottish + West_Sicilian - 7.072476
18 Central_Greek + Mandenka + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria - 7.074783
19 Mandenka + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + West_Sicilian - 7.075345
20 Mandenka + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Sicilian - 7.085022

Sister Gedmatch (Eurogenes K13)
Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian - 27.888229
2 Spanish_Extremadura - 28.009148
3 Portuguese - 28.094210
4 Spanish_Galicia - 28.179550
5 Tuscan - 29.088684
6 Spanish_Murcia - 29.428955
7 Romanian - 29.459341
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon - 29.594864
9 Spanish_Andalucia - 29.740238
10 Bulgarian - 30.033649
11 Spanish_Cataluna - 30.120049
12 Greek_Thessaly - 30.214729
13 Spanish_Valencia - 30.463118
14 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha - 30.536623
15 Serbian - 30.565025
16 Spanish_Cantabria - 30.814228
17 West_Sicilian - 30.981028
18 French - 31.044483
19 Italian_Abruzzo - 31.517479
20 Mozabite_Berber - 32.172405

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mozabite_Berber +50% West_German - 21.031343

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% French_Basque +25% Luhya - 12.091778

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Andalucia - 10.547358
2 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + North_Italian - 10.573441
3 Bantu_S.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Andalucia - 10.578611
4 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + Tuscan - 10.586139
5 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + Sardinian - 10.599129
6 Bantu_S.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + North_Italian - 10.633506
7 Bantu_S.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Tuscan - 10.643936
8 Bantu_S.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Sardinian - 10.645248
9 Bantu_S.W. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Andalucia - 10.653930
10 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Extremadura - 10.704147
11 Bantu_S.W. + French_Basque + MA-1 + North_Italian - 10.713892
12 Bantu_N.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Andalucia - 10.714880
13 Biaka_Pygmy + MA-1 + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon - 10.721889
14 Bantu_S.W. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Tuscan - 10.724366
15 Bantu_S.W. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Sardinian - 10.736388
16 Bantu_N.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + North_Italian - 10.752532
17 Bantu_S.E. + MA-1 + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon - 10.755511
18 Bantu_S.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Extremadura - 10.757319
19 French_Basque + Luhya + MA-1 + Spanish_Andalucia - 10.771101
20 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha - 10.773578

Uncle Gedmatch (Eurogenes K13)
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mozabite_Berber - 35.587143
2 Algerian - 37.074203
3 Tunisian - 37.786697
4 Moroccan - 38.866875
5 North_Italian - 39.842022
6 Tuscan - 40.005104
7 Spanish_Extremadura - 40.105640
8 Portuguese - 40.262993
9 Spanish_Galicia - 40.331589
10 West_Sicilian - 40.390369
11 Greek_Thessaly - 40.640278
12 Romanian - 41.054562
13 Bulgarian - 41.188644
14 Spanish_Murcia - 41.315331
15 Italian_Abruzzo - 41.357136
16 Spanish_Andalucia - 41.575092
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon - 41.615040
18 East_Sicilian - 41.978180
19 Spanish_Cataluna - 42.029636
20 Serbian - 42.113461

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bantu_S.E. +50% Spanish_Valencia - 12.025377

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bantu_S.E. +25% Sardinian +25% Southeast_English - 11.235566

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Sardinian + Southeast_English - 10.322885
2 French_Basque + Moldavian + Mozabite_Berber + Yoruban - 10.326647
3 French_Basque + Moldavian + Mozabite_Berber + Yoruban - 10.326647
4 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Sardinian + South_Dutch - 10.370424
5 Bantu_N.E. + Irish + Mandenka + Sardinian - 10.374027
6 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Tatar + Yoruban - 10.390550
7 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Tatar + Yoruban - 10.390550
8 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Sardinian + West_Scottish - 10.400752
9 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Orcadian + Sardinian - 10.404729
10 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + North_Dutch + Sardinian - 10.420464
11 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + North_Italian + Southwest_French - 10.433482
12 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Romanian + Yoruban - 10.440711
13 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Romanian + Yoruban - 10.440711
14 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Sardinian + West_German - 10.447246
15 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Sardinian + Southwest_English - 10.448466
16 Bantu_N.E. + French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Mandenka - 10.462320
17 Bulgarian + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Yoruban - 10.466660
18 Bulgarian + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Yoruban - 10.466660
19 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + North_German + Sardinian - 10.498467
20 Bantu_N.E. + Danish + Mandenka + Sardinian - 10.515153

JerryS.
05-22-2018, 02:53 AM
Mine Gedmatch (Eurogenes K13)
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Extremadura - 27.816790
2 North_Italian - 27.861929
3 Portuguese - 28.041199
4 Spanish_Galicia - 28.236368
5 Tuscan - 28.940859
6 Spanish_Murcia - 29.042185
7 Spanish_Andalucia - 29.231358
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon - 29.452793
9 Spanish_Valencia - 29.863432
10 Spanish_Cataluna - 29.921719
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha - 30.246119
12 Spanish_Cantabria - 30.644777
13 West_Sicilian - 30.748785
14 Mozabite_Berber - 30.797615
15 Greek_Thessaly - 31.263800
16 Romanian - 31.646641
17 Algerian - 31.922369
18 Italian_Abruzzo - 31.931843
19 Bulgarian - 32.040180
20 French - 32.049240

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bantu_N.E. +50% Southwest_French - 19.751307

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_French +25% West_Sicilian +25% Yoruban - 7.161878

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Mandenka + South_Italian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French - 6.892052
2 South_Italian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Yoruban - 6.984619
3 South_Italian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Yoruban - 6.984619
4 Mandenka + South_Italian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria - 6.997674
5 Irish + Mandenka + Sardinian + Tuscan - 6.999237
6 Bantu_S.W. + South_Italian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French - 7.004494
7 East_Sicilian + Mandenka + Southwest_French + Southwest_French - 7.009865
8 Irish + Mandenka + Sardinian + West_Sicilian - 7.046189
9 Mandenka + Orcadian + Sardinian + Tuscan - 7.061708
10 East_Sicilian + Mandenka + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria - 7.065010
11 East_Sicilian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Yoruban - 7.066548
12 East_Sicilian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Yoruban - 7.066548
13 Mandenka + Sardinian + Tuscan + West_Scottish - 7.067863
14 Central_Greek + Mandenka + Southwest_French + Southwest_French - 7.068944
15 Irish + Sardinian + Tuscan + Yoruban - 7.069872
16 Irish + Sardinian + Tuscan + Yoruban - 7.069872
17 Mandenka + Sardinian + West_Scottish + West_Sicilian - 7.072476
18 Central_Greek + Mandenka + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria - 7.074783
19 Mandenka + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + West_Sicilian - 7.075345
20 Mandenka + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Sicilian - 7.085022

Sister Gedmatch (Eurogenes K13)
Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian - 27.888229
2 Spanish_Extremadura - 28.009148
3 Portuguese - 28.094210
4 Spanish_Galicia - 28.179550
5 Tuscan - 29.088684
6 Spanish_Murcia - 29.428955
7 Romanian - 29.459341
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon - 29.594864
9 Spanish_Andalucia - 29.740238
10 Bulgarian - 30.033649
11 Spanish_Cataluna - 30.120049
12 Greek_Thessaly - 30.214729
13 Spanish_Valencia - 30.463118
14 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha - 30.536623
15 Serbian - 30.565025
16 Spanish_Cantabria - 30.814228
17 West_Sicilian - 30.981028
18 French - 31.044483
19 Italian_Abruzzo - 31.517479
20 Mozabite_Berber - 32.172405

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mozabite_Berber +50% West_German - 21.031343

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% French_Basque +25% Luhya - 12.091778

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Andalucia - 10.547358
2 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + North_Italian - 10.573441
3 Bantu_S.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Andalucia - 10.578611
4 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + Tuscan - 10.586139
5 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + Sardinian - 10.599129
6 Bantu_S.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + North_Italian - 10.633506
7 Bantu_S.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Tuscan - 10.643936
8 Bantu_S.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Sardinian - 10.645248
9 Bantu_S.W. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Andalucia - 10.653930
10 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Extremadura - 10.704147
11 Bantu_S.W. + French_Basque + MA-1 + North_Italian - 10.713892
12 Bantu_N.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Andalucia - 10.714880
13 Biaka_Pygmy + MA-1 + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon - 10.721889
14 Bantu_S.W. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Tuscan - 10.724366
15 Bantu_S.W. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Sardinian - 10.736388
16 Bantu_N.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + North_Italian - 10.752532
17 Bantu_S.E. + MA-1 + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon - 10.755511
18 Bantu_S.E. + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Extremadura - 10.757319
19 French_Basque + Luhya + MA-1 + Spanish_Andalucia - 10.771101
20 Biaka_Pygmy + French_Basque + MA-1 + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha - 10.773578

Uncle Gedmatch (Eurogenes K13)
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mozabite_Berber - 35.587143
2 Algerian - 37.074203
3 Tunisian - 37.786697
4 Moroccan - 38.866875
5 North_Italian - 39.842022
6 Tuscan - 40.005104
7 Spanish_Extremadura - 40.105640
8 Portuguese - 40.262993
9 Spanish_Galicia - 40.331589
10 West_Sicilian - 40.390369
11 Greek_Thessaly - 40.640278
12 Romanian - 41.054562
13 Bulgarian - 41.188644
14 Spanish_Murcia - 41.315331
15 Italian_Abruzzo - 41.357136
16 Spanish_Andalucia - 41.575092
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon - 41.615040
18 East_Sicilian - 41.978180
19 Spanish_Cataluna - 42.029636
20 Serbian - 42.113461

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bantu_S.E. +50% Spanish_Valencia - 12.025377

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bantu_S.E. +25% Sardinian +25% Southeast_English - 11.235566

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Sardinian + Southeast_English - 10.322885
2 French_Basque + Moldavian + Mozabite_Berber + Yoruban - 10.326647
3 French_Basque + Moldavian + Mozabite_Berber + Yoruban - 10.326647
4 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Sardinian + South_Dutch - 10.370424
5 Bantu_N.E. + Irish + Mandenka + Sardinian - 10.374027
6 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Tatar + Yoruban - 10.390550
7 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Tatar + Yoruban - 10.390550
8 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Sardinian + West_Scottish - 10.400752
9 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Orcadian + Sardinian - 10.404729
10 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + North_Dutch + Sardinian - 10.420464
11 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + North_Italian + Southwest_French - 10.433482
12 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Romanian + Yoruban - 10.440711
13 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Romanian + Yoruban - 10.440711
14 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Sardinian + West_German - 10.447246
15 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + Sardinian + Southwest_English - 10.448466
16 Bantu_N.E. + French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Mandenka - 10.462320
17 Bulgarian + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Yoruban - 10.466660
18 Bulgarian + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Yoruban - 10.466660
19 Bantu_N.E. + Mandenka + North_German + Sardinian - 10.498467
20 Bantu_N.E. + Danish + Mandenka + Sardinian - 10.515153

wow, I've never seen distances so far off center before. but at least your Balkan for the most part has dissipated.

anderson.clayton
05-22-2018, 10:48 AM
I would like know if it's possible to me has an Italians ancestors in last 150 years or just Spanishes.

AmandaDegenhardt
09-09-2018, 02:39 PM
I would like know if it's possible to me has an Italians ancestors in last 150 years or just Spanishes.

I tend to think you have some Italian root from your greatgrandparent that leaved home, may he was half Italian and for be such little time in contact with family nobody knows it.
Are you from São Paulo state? It’s very rare people in sp who doesn’t have any Italian roots.

mildlycurly
11-03-2018, 10:25 AM
Kind of related; on DNA Land I get 2% Southern European from Northern Italy and on Myheritage I get 1.4% Balkan instead. So which one is it?

anderson.clayton
12-01-2018, 06:19 PM
@AmandaDegenhardt my family comes from Minas Gerais. The city where my great-grandfather was born, had a high immigration of Italians between 1870 and 1905.

anderson.clayton
12-01-2018, 06:20 PM
@AmandaDegenhardt My family comes from Minas Gerais. The city where my great-grandfather was born, had a high immigration of Italians between 1870 and 1905.

anderson.clayton
12-01-2018, 06:22 PM
@AmandaDegenhardt my family comes from Minas Gerais. The city where my great-grandfather was born, had a high immigration of Italians between 1870 and 1905.

tsvetaeva
02-09-2019, 09:09 PM
I'm Brazilian too (from Minas as well), and I also had a weirdly high % of Balkans in DNA.Land, it appears in a minor amounts in other calculators but with them is my biggest component (31%). My known ancestry is mostly from North Portugal.

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ianz91
02-10-2019, 04:48 AM
JerryS,


Mine Gedmatch (MDLP K16 Modern):
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Swiss_Switzerland - 23.338036
2 Italian_Friul - 24.140936
3 Portuguese_Portugal - 24.344828
4 Austrian_Austria - 24.897797
5 Italian_NorthIitaly - 25.039074
6 German_SouthGermany - 25.393808
7 Provencal_Provence - 25.531473
8 Jew_Belmonte - 25.567829
9 Corsican_Corsica - 26.124207
10 Romanian_Romania - 26.171337
11 Spanish_Canarias - 26.636492
12 Slovenian_Slovenia - 26.830809
13 Romanian_Gorj - 26.859037
14 German_NorthGermany - 26.940210
15 Dane_Denmark - 26.960508
16 Spanish_Spain - 27.149990
17 Romanian_Apuseni - 27.245701
18 Moldavian_Molodva - 27.272032
19 Jew_Ashkenazi - 27.408825
20 Irish_Ireland - 27.536055

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Bergamo +50% Siddi_Makran - 14.733889


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Friul +25% Mandenka_Gambia +25% Spanish_Canarias - 5.358605

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + German_Germany + Spanish_Canarias - 4.289444
2 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + French_France + Spanish_Canarias - 4.392302
3 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + French_NorthwestFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.394270
4 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + French_WestFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.396785
5 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + French_EastFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.421922
6 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + German_Germany + Spanish_Canarias - 4.439460
7 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Borders + Spanish_Canarias - 4.441944
8 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + German_SouthGermany + Spanish_Canarias - 4.481792
9 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Spanish_Canarias + Welsh_Wales - 4.489603
10 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Spanish_Spain + Spanish_Canarias - 4.506852
11 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway + Spanish_Canarias - 4.517230
12 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Fife + Spanish_Canarias - 4.529811
13 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + German_SouthGermany + Spanish_Canarias - 4.530680
14 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + English_Kent + Spanish_Canarias - 4.533185
15 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Highlands + Spanish_Canarias - 4.543800
16 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Connacht + Spanish_Canarias - 4.549584
17 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + French_NorthwestFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.566095
18 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + French_EastFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.578096
19 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + Spanish_Canarias + Welsh_Wales - 4.581976
20 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Herero + French_WestFrance + Spanish_Canarias - 4.582913

Sister Gedmatch (MDLP K16 Modern):
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Swiss_Switzerland - 23.217958
2 Portuguese_Portugal - 24.093533
3 Austrian_Austria - 24.175751
4 Italian_Friul - 24.233547
5 German_SouthGermany - 24.666508
6 Provencal_Provence - 24.970304
7 Italian_NorthIitaly - 25.433640
8 Dane_Denmark - 25.604822
9 German_NorthGermany - 25.805923
10 Irish_Ireland - 25.849266
11 Romanian_Romania - 26.208149
12 Slovenian_Slovenia - 26.281935
13 Corsican_Corsica - 26.547745
14 Spanish_Spain - 26.628551
15 French_NorthwestFrance - 26.636002
16 Jew_Belmonte - 26.699312
17 Czech_Czechia - 26.752451
18 Spanish_Extremadura - 26.830324
19 French_EastFrance - 26.890461
20 Romanian_Gorj - 26.918465

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Siddi_Makran +50% Spanish_Spain - 16.242092

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Mandenka_Gambia +25% Tlingit_NA - 8.814117

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Afroamerican_Denver + Jew_Ashkenazi + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Tlingit_NA - 7.560325
2 Afroamerican_Denver + Jew_Ashkenazi + French_SouthFrance + Tlingit_NA - 7.571319
3 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Spanish_Murcia - 7.579781
4 Afroamerican_Denver + Jew_Ashkenazi + Irish_Ireland + Spanish_Murcia - 7.583842
5 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Cork_Kerry + Spanish_Murcia - 7.607955
6 Afroamerican_Denver + French_SouthFrance + Maltese_Malta + Tlingit_NA - 7.610218
7 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Connacht + Spanish_Murcia - 7.610985
8 Afroamerican_Denver + Maltese_Malta + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Tlingit_NA - 7.626834
9 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Spanish_Murcia - 7.628443
10 Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Athens + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Tlingit_NA - 7.656680
11 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Ireland + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha - 7.662247
12 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Ulster + Spanish_Murcia - 7.662861
13 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Scottish_Highlands + Spanish_Murcia - 7.672673
14 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Munster + Spanish_Murcia - 7.675920
15 Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Basque_Spain + Greek_Greece + Tlingit_NA - 7.676030
16 Afroamerican_Denver + Basque_Spain + Greek_Greece + Tlingit_NA - 7.681037
17 Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Greece + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Tlingit_NA - 7.682325
18 Afroamerican_Denver + Jew_Ashkenazi + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Tlingit_NA - 7.683559
19 Jew_Ashkenazi + Bantu_SA_Ovambo + Irish_Ireland + Spanish_Cantabria - 7.687288
20 Afroamerican_Denver + French_SouthFrance + Italian_SouthItaly + Tlingit_NA - 7.689107

Uncle Gedmatch (MDLP K16 Modern):
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Yemeni_Yemen - 31.960236
2 Swiss_Switzerland - 34.921535
3 Italian_Friul - 35.560791
4 Moroccan_Morocco - 35.835590
5 Austrian_Austria - 35.861839
6 Portuguese_Portugal - 36.045979
7 Italian_NorthIitaly - 36.277172
8 German_SouthGermany - 36.406143
9 Jew_Belmonte - 36.878937
10 Provencal_Provence - 36.995983
11 Romanian_Romania - 37.074909
12 Jew_Ashkenazi - 37.317104
13 German_NorthGermany - 37.336899
14 Dane_Denmark - 37.449993
15 Corsican_Corsica - 37.586838
16 Slovenian_Slovenia - 37.745487
17 Irish_Ireland - 37.904613
18 Czech_Czechia - 38.118450
19 Spanish_Canarias - 38.228943
20 Romanian_Gorj - 38.251801

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Afroamerican_Denver +50% Italian_Bergamo - 5.219234

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Afroamerican_Denver +25% Greek_Greece +25% Spanish_Cantabria - 5.068293

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Greece + Spanish_Cantabria - 5.068293
2 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Athens + Spanish_Aragon - 5.069493
3 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Greece + Spanish_Aragon - 5.074394
4 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Athens + Spanish_Cantabria - 5.098821
5 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Italian_Tuscany + Spanish_Baleares - 5.099251
6 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Athens + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha - 5.107294
7 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Thessaloniki + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha - 5.115604
8 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Thessaloniki + Spanish_Andalucia - 5.128214
9 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Thessaloniki + Spanish_Murcia - 5.133822
10 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Albanian_Albania + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha - 5.141482
11 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Albanian_Albania + Spanish_Andalucia - 5.154990
12 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Greece + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha - 5.169680
13 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Albanian_Albania + Spanish_Murcia - 5.175285
14 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Tuscany - 5.210610
15 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Greece + Spanish_Andalucia - 5.216685
16 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Athens + Spanish_Valencia - 5.217589
17 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo - 5.219234
18 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Cataluna - 5.219709
19 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Andalucia - 5.233586
20 Afroamerican_Denver + Afroamerican_Denver + Greek_Thessaloniki + Spanish_Extremadura - 5.233607


Wow I never seen such a diverse population oracle before, you're definitely Brazilian :)