From which island/area is my Oceanian?

[Hurricane]

24Genetics
•AUSTRALIA Australia Australia 0%
•AUSTRALIA Indonesia Indonesia 0%
•AUSTRALIA Indonesia Moluccas 0%
•AUSTRALIA New Zealand New Zealand 0%
•AUSTRALIA Papua New Guinea Papua 0,40%
•AUSTRALIA Samoa Samoa 0%
•AUSTRALIA Solomon Islands Solomon Islands 0,05%

23andMe
•East Asian <0,1% (2017) / 0% (2018)
•Oceanian <0,1% (2017) / 0% (2018)
• Southeast Asia 0%

AncestryDNA
ASIA
•Asia East 0%
Pacific Islander
•Melanesian <=1%
•Polynesian 0%

DNA tribes
Regions
•Filipino
•Malay Archipelago
•Malay Sumatran
•Melanesian
•Polynesian 1,4%(2016) / 2,8%(2018)
•South Chinese
Populations (Oceanians only)
• Tonga
• Samoa 3,2% (2018)
•Melanesian
•Manggarai
•Lembata Indonesia
•Maluku Islands
•Lamaholot Indonesia
•Sunda Indonesia
•Toraja Indonesia
•Kambera Indonesia
•Papuan New Guinea

FTDNA
•NorthEast Asia 0%
•SourthEast Asia 0%
•Oceania <2%

MyHeritage
OCEANIA
•Melanesian 0%
•Papuan 0%
•Polynesian 0%
EAST ASIA
•Filipino, Indonesian, and Malaysian 1.2%
•Chinese and Vietnamese 0%
•Eskimo/Inuit 0%
•Japanese 0%
•Mongolian 0%
•Nepali 0%
•Thai and Cambodian 0%

LivingDNA
Asia (East)
•Southeast Asia 0%
•South China 1,6%
•North China 0%
•Southwest China 0%
•Japan and Korea 0%
•Northeast China 0%
•Mongolia and Manchuria 0%
•Siberia 0%
Oceania
•Austronesia 0%
•Papua 0%

[shazou]

Madagascar?? ..am i correct?

[Hurricane]

Madagascar?? ..am i correct?

Not that i am aware of. I dont get Madagascar on dna tests nor i have malagasy matches. Plus, i have a strong melanesian trace. Malagasies hardly score melanesian.

[Angoliga]

Hi Hurricane,

Here's a thread with other Northern and Eastern-Africans who've also noted minor non-negligible ASI/East-Asian related ancestry:
Ancient Eurasia K6 - Deducing Traces of Back to Africa Migrations (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?9831-Ancient-Eurasia-K6-Deducing-Traces-of-Back-to-Africa-Migrations)

This was just an observation with ADMIXTURE but the same can be noticed with nmonte, myself and family members keep getting minor affinities to East-Asians/ and Austro-Asiatic speakers.

It might be related to paleolithic back-to-Africa migrations, since these regions underwent massive demographic changes in the neolithic.
Perhaps the missing connection will be found when more paleolithic samples are uncovered in North-Africa and SW-Asia.

[Hurricane]

Hi Hurricane,

Here's a thread with other Northern and Eastern-Africans who've also noted minor non-negligible ASI/East-Asian related ancestry:
Ancient Eurasia K6 - Deducing Traces of Back to Africa Migrations (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?9831-Ancient-Eurasia-K6-Deducing-Traces-of-Back-to-Africa-Migrations)

This was just an observation with ADMIXTURE but the same can be noticed with nmonte, myself and family members keep getting minor affinities to East-Asians/ and Austro-Asiatic speakers.

It might be related to paleolithic back-to-Africa migrations, since these regions underwent massive demographic changes in the neolithic.
Perhaps the missing connection will be found when more paleolithic samples are uncovered in North-Africa and SW-Asia.

Then why does oceanian show up on commercial tests which are focused on recent ancestry?

[Angoliga]

I'm guessing there's several factors but ultimately the ancestral clusters from these companies are limited to the reference samples at their disposal. It's likely these East-Asian affinities are appearing on "recent" admixture runs due to lack of African samples from regions exhibiting this affinity -- so they're therefore unable to bucket the alleles within a modern African cluster (Saharan, Berber, NW-African, North-African, Maghrebi...).

Out of curiosity, have you been tried the Chinese testing company GeseDNA? Here's a post (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?12745-GeseDNA&p=316988&viewfull=1#post316988) from years back. According to their modern calc, I'm 2.6% South-Asian:
https://i.imgur.com/gz2FHC4.png


Since you have Berber ancestry, and my ethnic group migrated from the lake Chad basin, I wonder if there might be an ancient Central-Saharan connection?

[SWAHILLI_PRINCE16]

The one possibility i can think of is maybe distant Malagasy ancestry, but i think its most likely an ancient component as @NiloSaharan said.

[Hurricane]

I'm guessing there's several factors but ultimately the ancestral clusters from these companies are limited to the reference samples at their disposal. It's likely these East-Asian affinities are appearing on "recent" admixture runs due to lack of African samples from regions exhibiting this affinity -- so they're therefore unable to bucket the alleles within a modern African cluster (Saharan, Berber, NW-African, North-African, Maghrebi...).

Out of curiosity, have you been tried the Chinese testing company GeseDNA? Here's a post (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?12745-GeseDNA&p=316988&viewfull=1#post316988) from years back. According to their modern calc, I'm 2.6% South-Asian:
https://i.imgur.com/gz2FHC4.png


Since you have Berber ancestry, and my ethnic group migrated from the lake Chad basin, I wonder if there might be an ancient Central-Saharan connection?

I'm still getting SEA and Oceanic people on G25, so i dont think its because of the size of their database. Furthermore, the other people of my community, dont score SEA/Oceanian nor the South Asian that i get from my maternal side.
GeseDNA is terrible, it is not worth mentioning.:)

My MtDNA is from the Lake Chad Basin, the connection is here.


The one possibility i can think of is maybe distant Malagasy ancestry, but i think its most likely an ancient component as @NiloSaharan said.

No. Malagasy people hardly score Melanesian. I dont score Malagasy on any test anyway. Somebody told me that i may have an ancestor from Western Indonesia.

[Angoliga]

I'm still getting SEA and Oceanic people on G25, so i dont think its because of the size of their database. Furthermore, the other people of my community, dont score SEA/Oceanian nor the South Asian that i get from my maternal side.
GeseDNA is terrible, it is not worth mentioning.:)

My MtDNA is from the Lake Chad Basin, the connection is here.

Very odd -- has to be something extrememly ancient, from the paleolithic prior. It's sporadic but it's evident among family members within my database; ancient Vanuatu and Tonga affinities:

https://i.imgur.com/VeLLBNE.png



I cross checked recent East-African forager samples but couldn't find similar affinities among them -- so perhaps it was likely derived from pops within and around the Lake-Chad basin/Central-Sahara? I do recall Iberomaurusian samples being modeled with minor East-Asian like ancestry without explanation.


Interestingly, these affinities drop slightly when Mesolithic and Neolithic Welsh samples are added for family members:

https://i.imgur.com/QpqxPOG.png

-- out of curiosity, do you have any affinities towards "Wales_Meso" and "Wales_N" samples using unscaled g25 cords?

Since we only have "Dinka" as a reference for our Nilotic ancestry, and since ancestral Dinka pops were supposedly geographically bound to the eastern-sahara, I wonder if this affinity's leakage is in anyway related from ancient western trans North-African/Iberian migrations? It might have to do with L3x2b in modern Iberia, I'm guessing the same for L3e5 since it's common among certain Berbers pops?