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C J Wyatt III
07-03-2018, 05:56 PM
A new project has been formed for Z382 with John Francis as the administrator. I hope everyone here who is tested I-Z382+ will join:

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/i-z382ydna-subclade/about

I think that we have great potential to make some connections and discover the origins of the various branches.

Thank you for your consideration.

Jack Wyatt

mwauthy
07-05-2018, 10:19 PM
Thanks for the link. I joined today.

Z382-S26361-S16414-FGC24357

C J Wyatt III
07-05-2018, 10:48 PM
Thanks for the link. I joined today.

Z382-S26361-S16414-FGC24357

You're welcome! Appreciate you joining.

My avatar is my patrilineal great grandfather. I think I see some resemblance between him and you. :)


Jack

JonikW
07-05-2018, 11:07 PM
Me too! Wonderful:)

mwauthy
07-05-2018, 11:35 PM
You're welcome! Appreciate you joining.

My avatar is my patrilineal great grandfather. I think I see some resemblance between him and you. :)


Jack

:) if my memory serves me right you mentioned in another thread you were S16414 or FGC24357?

mwauthy
07-05-2018, 11:36 PM
Me too! Wonderful:)

What are your snps under Z382? A match in Sweden with a TMRCA of 1000 years means you are probably a Viking British descendant.

C J Wyatt III
07-05-2018, 11:46 PM
:) if my memory serves me right you mentioned in another thread you were S16414 or FGC24357?

Right, I tested FGC24357 with YSEQ.

Jack

C J Wyatt III
07-06-2018, 12:07 AM
What are your snps under Z382? A match in Sweden with a TMRCA of 1000 years means you are probably a Viking British descendant.

After I got my Y-DNA results back, I took a chance on testing Z382 on advice from how I was grouped in the I1 Project. I then tested positive for Z2041 trying to advance myself further, but later they decided Z2041 was in front of Z382. Like I said in the other post, I took a chance with I-FGC24357 with YSEQ and was successful with that. I hope sometime in the coming months that I will be able to do Big-Y.


My earliest known Wyatt ancestor is my 7th great grandfather William Wyatt, who was indentured in Barbados in 1659. Going back to England, I have a lot of Holcombe's in my Y-DNA results, and that line would lead back to Sir John de Holcombe who was knighted by Richard the Lion Hearted during the Third Crusade. The thought is that his Holcombe line was Norman.

I am curious where our branches meet. It is probably more recent than a thousand years ago.


Jack

mwauthy
07-06-2018, 01:04 AM
After I got my Y-DNA results back, I took a chance on testing Z382 on advice from how I was grouped in the I1 Project. I then tested positive for Z2041 trying to advance myself further, but later they decided Z2041 was in front of Z382. Like I said in the other post, I took a chance with I-FGC24357 with YSEQ and was successful with that. I hope sometime in the coming months that I will be able to do Big-Y.


My earliest known Wyatt ancestor is my 7th great grandfather William Wyatt, who was indentured in Barbados in 1659. Going back to England, I have a lot of Holcombe's in my Y-DNA results, and that line would lead back to Sir John de Holcombe who was knighted by Richard the Lion Hearted during the Third Crusade. The thought is that his Holcombe line was Norman.

I am curious where our branches meet. It is probably more recent than a thousand years ago.


Jack

FGC24357 has a TMRCA of 2000 years so probably this ancestor was still in Scandinavia. I can trace my paternal line to 1650 Wallonia Belgium with a surname of Wauthy which is a shortened form of Wauthier which is the French or Latinized version of Walthari which is Old High German. Either the Franks or Normans would have created this name. In England it morphed into Walter. I hope to purchase Big Y in the coming year to fill in more branches under FGC24357. Only then can we see if our paternal match is younger than 2000 years.

C J Wyatt III
07-06-2018, 01:11 AM
FGC24357 has a TMRCA of 2000 years so probably this ancestor was still in Scandinavia. I can trace my paternal line to 1650 Wallonia Belgium with a surname of Wauthy which is a shortened form of Wauthier which is the French or Latinized version of Walthari which is Old High German. Either the Franks or Normans would have created this name. In England it morphed into Walter. I hope to purchase Big Y in the coming year to fill in more branches under FGC24357. Only then can we see if our paternal match is younger than 2000 years.

Thanks. I hope we both have a good year and get the Big-Y done.

Jack

JonikW
07-06-2018, 08:15 AM
After I got my Y-DNA results back, I took a chance on testing Z382 on advice from how I was grouped in the I1 Project. I then tested positive for Z2041 trying to advance myself further, but later they decided Z2041 was in front of Z382. Like I said in the other post, I took a chance with I-FGC24357 with YSEQ and was successful with that. I hope sometime in the coming months that I will be able to do Big-Y.


My earliest known Wyatt ancestor is my 7th great grandfather William Wyatt, who was indentured in Barbados in 1659. Going back to England, I have a lot of Holcombe's in my Y-DNA results, and that line would lead back to Sir John de Holcombe who was knighted by Richard the Lion Hearted during the Third Crusade. The thought is that his Holcombe line was Norman.

I am curious where our branches meet. It is probably more recent than a thousand years ago.


Jack

Like you, I went the YSEQ route and I got to A4577+. That's what my Big Y gave me when I tested this year too. Then shortly afterwards the Swedish cousin who you can see in my signature popped up. I think it's well worth testing and then waiting after any initial matches to see what comes along.

mwauthy
07-06-2018, 02:47 PM
Like you, I went the YSEQ route and I got to A4577+. That's what my Big Y gave me when I tested this year too. Then shortly afterwards the Swedish cousin who you can see in my signature popped up. I think it's well worth testing and then waiting after any initial matches to see what comes along.

A couple of questions. I donít see A4577 on the FTDNA Y Tree underneath Z382. Iím curious about all of your snps down stream from Z382. For example after Z382 Iím S26361Ė>S16414->FGC24357.

Did FTDNA assign you to a new subclade when you matched that Swedish person with a TMRCA of 1000 ybp?

C J Wyatt III
07-06-2018, 04:21 PM
A couple of questions. I donít see A4577 on the FTDNA Y Tree underneath Z382. Iím curious about all of your snps down stream from Z382. For example after Z382 Iím S26361Ė>S16414->FGC24357.

Did FTDNA assign you to a new subclade when you matched that Swedish person with a TMRCA of 1000 ybp?

Going by the FTDNA Haplotree, A4577 is in the Z140+ group. If I follow things correctly, CTS8647 is the first common SNP between us in Z382+ and JonikW.


Jack

mwauthy
07-06-2018, 06:27 PM
Going by the FTDNA Haplotree, A4577 is in the Z140+ group. If I follow things correctly, CTS8647 is the first common SNP between us in Z382+ and JonikW.


Jack

Ah I see. Z59 would be the first common snp between us and him. Not sure why he joined the Z382 project if he is Z382 negative?

JonikW
07-06-2018, 06:43 PM
Ah I see. Z59 would be the first common snp between us and him. Not sure why he joined the Z382 project if he is Z382 negative?

You're right guys, I'm not in your project but in the Z140 one. My posts here are purely in a spirit of I1 solidarity as I'm interested in the broader tree. For the record, my match and I have indeed formed a new twig within Z140. It's nice to help put the tree together so that those who come after us in coming years can benefit from a wider picture.

mwauthy
07-06-2018, 06:56 PM
You're right guys, I'm not in your project but in the Z140 one. My posts here are purely in a spirit of I1 solidarity as I'm interested in the broader tree. For the record, my match and I have indeed formed a new twig within Z140. It's nice to help put the tree together so that those who come after us in coming years can benefit from a wider picture.

Thanks for the clarification! I completely agree!