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Mixed
07-05-2018, 03:55 PM
Kurd hope you weigh in on this. I have done Geneplaza K12 and K14 calcs. On the K12 I have 7.3% Neolithic Iran. I have another 4.9 from the Levant which also is somewhat Iranian. On the K14 I have another 8-10% from Turan. These calcs represent Northwestern and Northeast Iran respectively. I understand this as having approx. 22-23% ancient Iranian genes when taking the results of both calcs into consideration. Would this theory be correct as I believe it is? It only seems logical. Showing it in this calc as well in the oracles.

puntDNAL K12 Modern Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 European_HG 36.19
2 Anatolian_NF 33.12
3 Caucasus_HG 20.56
4 Near_East 4.82
5 South_Asian 4.05


Finished reading population data. 135 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian @ 5.185352
2 Croatian @ 5.214615
3 Dutch_South @ 7.164478
4 Hungarian @ 7.556589
5 Belgian @ 7.747648
6 Utahn_European @ 8.293344
7 German_South @ 8.909446
8 Bulgarian @ 9.288409
9 English_South @ 9.605282
10 Irish @ 10.626718
11 French @ 10.765093
12 Czech @ 11.112416
13 Dutch_North @ 11.178397
14 German_North @ 11.595290
15 Scottish_West @ 12.619805
16 Norwegian @ 13.523815
17 Albanian @ 15.455989
18 Swedish @ 15.457418
19 Italian_Bergamo @ 15.892203
20 Icelandic @ 16.616447

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +50% Romanian @ 4.626503


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% Iranian +25% Sardinian @ 2.467924


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
1 Basque_Spaniard + Czech + Estonian + Iranian @ 2.405653
2 Basque_Spaniard + Estonian + Iranian + Irish @ 2.428637
3 Basque_Spaniard + Iranian + Irish + Lithuanian @ 2.442768
4 Basque_Spaniard + Estonian + Iranian + Norwegian @ 2.467088
5 Estonian + Estonian + Iranian + Sardinian @ 2.467924
6 Basque_Spaniard + Estonian + Iranian + Scottish_West @ 2.474509
7 Basque_Spaniard + English_South + Iranian + Lithuanian @ 2.481291
8 Basque_Spaniard + English_South + Estonian + Iranian @ 2.520482
9 Afghan_Pashtun + Basque_Spaniard + Lithuanian + Spanish_Southwest @ 2.526967
10 Estonian + Iranian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.534543
11 Basque_Spaniard + Iranian + Lithuanian + Norwegian @ 2.548959
12 Basque_Spaniard + Czech + Iranian + Lithuanian @ 2.552198
13 Basque_Spaniard + Iranian + Lithuanian + Scottish_West @ 2.562387
14 Basque_Spaniard + Belarusian + Icelandic + Iranian @ 2.586226
15 Basque_Spaniard + Estonian + German_North + Iranian @ 2.642633
16 Estonian + Kurdish + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.644949
17 Estonian + Estonian + Kurdish + Sardinian @ 2.658846
18 Iranian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.669497
19 Basque_Spaniard + Icelandic + Icelandic + Iranian @ 2.688177
20 Kurdish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.697004

Mixed
07-06-2018, 02:46 PM
Kurd you out there?????

Kurd
07-06-2018, 10:26 PM
Kurd you out there?????

I’m in travel status, but can you post the full K14 output and advise which testing company you received your data from.

Mixed
07-06-2018, 10:45 PM
I’m in travel status, but can you post the full K14 output and advise which testing company you received your data from.

Ancestry DNA

European 57.2%
Bell Beakers 16.9%
Western European Hunter Gatherers 7.2%
European Neolithic Farmers 31.1%
Latvian Hunter Gatherers 2.2%

Eurasian Steppe 27.8%
Steppe-MLBA-Western 13.7%
Siberian Hunter Gatherer 0.0%
Steppe-MLBA-Eastern 11.9%
Central & Eastern Scythians 2.2%

Western Eurasian Steppe 4.1%
Kura-Araxes 4.1%

Central & South Asian 10.4%
Turan-Central 8.4%
Indus Valley Civilization 1.2%
Ancestral Ancient South Asian 1.3%

SUB-SAHARAN AFRICAN 0.5%


Living DNA

European 58.6%
Bell Beakers 16.9%
Western European Hunter Gatherers 3.6%
European Neolithic Farmers 32.9%
Latvian Hunter Gatherers 5.2%

Eurasian Steppe 24.6%
Steppe-MLBA-Western 8.5%
Siberian Hunter Gatherer 0.0%
Steppe-MLBA-Eastern 16.0%
Central & Eastern Scythians 0.0%

Western Eurasian Steppe 2.4%
Kura-Araxes 2.4%

Central & South Asian 13.0%
Turan-Central 10.4%
Indus Valley Civilization 1.3%
Ancestral Ancient South Asian 0.7%

SUB-SAHARAN AFRICAN 0.8%

EAST ASIAN 0.8%

Kurd
07-07-2018, 12:05 AM
Kurd hope you weigh in on this. I have done Geneplaza K12 and K14 calcs. On the K12 I have 7.3% Neolithic Iran. I have another 4.9 from the Levant which also is somewhat Iranian. On the K14 I have another 8-10% from Turan. These calcs represent Northwestern and Northeast Iran respectively. I understand this as having approx. 22-23% ancient Iranian genes when taking the results of both calcs into consideration. Would this theory be correct as I believe it is? It only seems logical. Showing it in this calc as well in the oracles.

puntDNAL K12 Modern Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 European_HG 36.19
2 Anatolian_NF 33.12
3 Caucasus_HG 20.56
4 Near_East 4.82
5 South_Asian 4.05


Finished reading population data. 135 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian @ 5.185352
2 Croatian @ 5.214615
3 Dutch_South @ 7.164478
4 Hungarian @ 7.556589
5 Belgian @ 7.747648
6 Utahn_European @ 8.293344
7 German_South @ 8.909446
8 Bulgarian @ 9.288409
9 English_South @ 9.605282
10 Irish @ 10.626718
11 French @ 10.765093
12 Czech @ 11.112416
13 Dutch_North @ 11.178397
14 German_North @ 11.595290
15 Scottish_West @ 12.619805
16 Norwegian @ 13.523815
17 Albanian @ 15.455989
18 Swedish @ 15.457418
19 Italian_Bergamo @ 15.892203
20 Icelandic @ 16.616447

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +50% Romanian @ 4.626503


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% Iranian +25% Sardinian @ 2.467924


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
1 Basque_Spaniard + Czech + Estonian + Iranian @ 2.405653
2 Basque_Spaniard + Estonian + Iranian + Irish @ 2.428637
3 Basque_Spaniard + Iranian + Irish + Lithuanian @ 2.442768
4 Basque_Spaniard + Estonian + Iranian + Norwegian @ 2.467088
5 Estonian + Estonian + Iranian + Sardinian @ 2.467924
6 Basque_Spaniard + Estonian + Iranian + Scottish_West @ 2.474509
7 Basque_Spaniard + English_South + Iranian + Lithuanian @ 2.481291
8 Basque_Spaniard + English_South + Estonian + Iranian @ 2.520482
9 Afghan_Pashtun + Basque_Spaniard + Lithuanian + Spanish_Southwest @ 2.526967
10 Estonian + Iranian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.534543
11 Basque_Spaniard + Iranian + Lithuanian + Norwegian @ 2.548959
12 Basque_Spaniard + Czech + Iranian + Lithuanian @ 2.552198
13 Basque_Spaniard + Iranian + Lithuanian + Scottish_West @ 2.562387
14 Basque_Spaniard + Belarusian + Icelandic + Iranian @ 2.586226
15 Basque_Spaniard + Estonian + German_North + Iranian @ 2.642633
16 Estonian + Kurdish + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.644949
17 Estonian + Estonian + Kurdish + Sardinian @ 2.658846
18 Iranian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.669497
19 Basque_Spaniard + Icelandic + Icelandic + Iranian @ 2.688177
20 Kurdish + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.697004

1- The results from 2 calculators should not be combined. It’s one or the other

2- In the K14 with the more accurate test (Ancestry) you show 8.4 % TuranC, which is predominantly Iran-C related with a little added WSHG. Unless you are Iranic or SC Asian or are aware of such relatively recent ancestry from the aforementioned, it’s not wise to interpret this as geneflow from TuranC. Rather, a more reasonable interpretation for an individual with predominately SE European ancestry would be Mostly Chalcolithic Iranian related ancestry

Mixed
07-07-2018, 12:16 AM
1- The results from 2 calculators should not be combined. It’s one or the other

2- In the K14 with the more accurate test (Ancestry) you show 8.4 % TuranC, which is predominantly Iran-C related with a little added WSHG. Unless you are Iranic or SC Asian or are aware of such relatively recent ancestry from the aforementioned, it’s not wise to interpret this as geneflow from TuranC. Rather, a more reasonable interpretation for an individual with predominately SE European ancestry would be Mostly Chalcolithic Iranian related ancestry

I am mostly Slavic, Germanic, and UK. I also have a Iranian match on Ancestry DNA.

Balto-NorthSlavic 35.2%
NorthwestEuropean 25.8%
ItalianGreek 16.6%
Iberian 7.5%
Balkan 4.6%
Basque 3.8%
NorthAfrican 3.2%
PersianJewish 1.7%
Caucasus 1%
Other 0.6%

Mixed
07-07-2018, 12:45 AM
Kurd please read your pm.