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Tolan
07-24-2018, 12:16 PM
The goal is to make a correlation between the regions of the British Isles and the European continent.
If you don't have British or Irish ancestor, but Living DNA gives you a fairly high percentage (> 10%) then please post your full results here in complete mode.

Then, I will make a percentage of only your results from the Islands.
Here are 4 examples:
3 French: two from the west, and one from the east
1 polish

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Arnfried
07-24-2018, 12:50 PM
Good idea Tolan.
Am I the eastern french? Results seems reflect mines. If not, I can send you my british's results.

Tolan
07-24-2018, 02:02 PM
Good idea Tolan.
Am I the eastern french? Results seems reflect mines. If not, I can send you my british's results.

yes, these are yours, there is also Tomenable and me

Capitalis
07-26-2018, 10:12 AM
This is an ambitious task! Good luck!

Also, two NW French get 12% Irish but I get none at ~40% Irish ancestry. This suggests you have quite a ball of string to untangle. ;)

Tolan
10-17-2018, 12:40 PM
Some additional results ...
If you don't have British or Irish ancestor, but Living DNA gives you a fairly high percentage (> 10%) then please post your full results here in complete mode.

26764

Here is an attempt at synthesis very fragile, given the few results taken into account

For those who are not British, Irish or Scottish:

SE England: seems to be rather continental like northern France
SC England: seems to be more associated with Atlantic Europe
South Wales: seems to be more Germanic
East Anglia: seems to be more Germanic
Ireland: Brittany but non-Briton?

Tolan
10-17-2018, 12:41 PM
Duplicate...

Nive1526
10-17-2018, 01:36 PM
Europe 98.8%

Europe (North and West) 39.4%

Germanic 39.4%

Great Britain and Ireland 34.9%

Southeast England 6.1%
South England 5.3%
Lincolnshire 5%
North Yorkshire 4.2%
Central England 3.9%
East Anglia 2.9%
South Central England 2.9%
Northumbria 1.9%
South Wales Border 1.6%
Aberdeenshire 1.1%

Europe (South) 23%

Tuscany 23%

Europe (East) 1.5%

Mordovia 1.5%

Near East 1.2%

Arabia 1.2%

My paper trail ancestry is almost entirely within Baden-Wuerttemberg and this is also where I live, but I am pulled southwards by the Italian in most PCAs.
The test is about 14 months old now.

euasta
10-17-2018, 06:41 PM
I think they are wrong with these English genetic references. They force its. All my ancestors up to grade 5-6 are from a small area in southern Romania, but... they attributed me 8.7% England and even 10% NW Europe!

Dewsloth
10-17-2018, 07:28 PM
Dad cannot be more than 50% British by ancestry, if anything, there are Germans on his British (mother's) side.
His father's side is mostly SW. German (South Hesse, Rhineland, B-W and Bavaria), with some Belgian and Ashkenazi (no known Italian), nevertheless:

Great Britain and Ireland 71.1%
Southeast England 20.6%
East Anglia 13.6%
Lincolnshire 12.2%
South Central England 9.5%
South Yorkshire 4.7%
Cumbria 2.4%
Northwest Scotland 2.4%
Devon 2.3%
Cornwall 2.2%
North Yorkshire 1.2%

Europe (South) 14.3%
North Italy 11.1%
Aegean 3.2%

Europe (North and West) 8.2%
Scandinavia 8.2%

Europe (East) 6.4%
West Balkans 2.6%
East Balkans 2%
Finland and Western Russia 1.8%

Dewsloth
10-17-2018, 10:43 PM
Some additional results ...
If you don't have British or Irish ancestor, but Living DNA gives you a fairly high percentage (> 10%) then please post your full results here in complete mode.

26764

Here is an attempt at synthesis very fragile, given the few results taken into account

For those who are not British, Irish or Scottish:

SE England: seems to be rather continental like northern France
SC England: seems to be more associated with Atlantic Europe
South Wales: seems to be more Germanic
East Anglia: seems to be more Germanic
Ireland: Brittany but non-Briton?


Europe 98.8%

Europe (North and West) 39.4%

Germanic 39.4%

Great Britain and Ireland 34.9%

Southeast England 6.1%
South England 5.3%
Lincolnshire 5%
North Yorkshire 4.2%
Central England 3.9%
East Anglia 2.9%
South Central England 2.9%
Northumbria 1.9%
South Wales Border 1.6%
Aberdeenshire 1.1%

Europe (South) 23%

Tuscany 23%

Europe (East) 1.5%

Mordovia 1.5%

Near East 1.2%

Arabia 1.2%

My paper trail ancestry is almost entirely within Baden-Wuerttemberg and this is also where I live, but I am pulled southwards by the Italian in most PCAs.
The test is about 14 months old now.

I wonder if Lincolnshire might also be a possible indicator...

edwardsson
10-18-2018, 08:39 AM
Europe 100%


Europe (North and West) 56.6%
Germanic 45.7%
Scandinavia 11.0%


Great Britain and Ireland 33.1%
Southeast England 11.9%
East Anglia 8.0%
Lincolnshire 5.1%
Northumbria 1.5%
Great Britain and Ireland (unassigned) 6.6%


Europe (East) 10.3%
Finland and Western Russia 7%
Mordovia 2.1%
Northeast Europe 1.1%


As far as I know, I do not have any paper trail ancestry at all from the UK.


MyHeritage
Scandinavian 54.5%
English 32.6%
Baltic 12.9%

FamilyTreeDNA
(raw file from MyHeritage)
Scandinavia 70%
East Europe 30%

Solothurn
10-18-2018, 09:49 AM
That would be interesting. I have 10.3% Lincolnshire yet no documented evidence from there!

Maybe Denmark needs to be deep tested!


I wonder if Lincolnshire might also be a possible indicator...

Xtian
10-18-2018, 11:29 AM
Russian from river Don region. All recent ancestors from Southern Russia.

Europe
Europe East
North East Europe 67.9
Finland/Western Russia 8.4
Baltics 2.5

Europe South
Tuscany 5.9
South Italy 2.1

Europe North/West
Germanic 5.8
Scandinavia 1.5

GB/Ireland
England and Wales 2.9

Near East
North Turkey 3.0


To be honest I'm surprised by my supposed Italian as much as British.

Pylsteen
10-18-2018, 11:33 AM
I get 20% Lincolnshire. Also 25% SE England.

Xtian
10-18-2018, 11:40 AM
Also- can someone explain this to me

Here is the results of my son, father is Welsh.

Europe
Great Britain and Ireland 60.9

Europe East
North East Europe 15.5
Baltics 8.3
West Balkans 6.3 Where did this come from lol?
Finland/Russia 5.1

Europe South
Tuscany 2.9

Near East
North Turkey 1.0


How can my son be more than 50% British? It is impossible no?

Xtian
10-18-2018, 11:42 AM
I get 20% Lincolnshire. Also 25% SE England.

Of all nationalities I would say Dutch is the most likely to score some British. English people on the east coast are very similar to Dutch genetically.

Xtian
10-18-2018, 11:42 AM
Duplicate

Pylsteen
10-18-2018, 11:46 AM
I think so too; by lack of Dutch samples they chose East England. In total they gave 68,8% British, 19% Scandinavian, but only 1,5% Germanic, so I really wonder what their Germanic category is. I hope their German and Benelux projects will be done soon (some years probably).

euasta
10-18-2018, 04:27 PM
I think it's a question of the reference system they chose, considering its origin in England !
I think the reference system origin needs to move much further south-east, probably towards the Balkans. :)

ADW_1981
10-18-2018, 04:53 PM
I think they are wrong with these English genetic references. They force its. All my ancestors up to grade 5-6 are from a small area in southern Romania, but... they attributed me 8.7% England and even 10% NW Europe!

There was a contingent of German Hungarians who settled in Transylvania, but I would agree, most modern Romanians are of Slavic ancestry.

Dewsloth
10-18-2018, 05:13 PM
There was a contingent of German Hungarians who settled in Transylvania, but I would agree, most modern Romanians are of Slavic ancestry.

:eek: Maybe that's why Gedmatch sometimes throws Romanian in as a match for my Dad...

euasta
10-18-2018, 05:43 PM
There was a contingent of German Hungarians who settled in Transylvania, but I would agree, most modern Romanians are of Slavic ancestry.
3% Panonia and 3% German.
England was the second regional with 8.7% after 57% East Balkans. :)
Only 2% NE Europe. And no more east. But... Slavic it's about speaking language?
p.s. I am from nearby Wallachia in south Romania.

boilermeschew827
11-05-2018, 02:32 AM
I have no Irish or British ancestors, here are my results in "Complete Mode", my French is mostly from central France with ties to Brittany and Normandy. German is from Lower Saxony and Mecklenburg, and I also have some Danish and Swedish mixed in:

Europe (East) 43.7%
Northeast Europe 26.7%
Baltics 5.8%
Finland and Western Russia 11.2%

Great Britain and Ireland 39.8%
South England 15.5%
East Anglia 9.8%
Lincolnshire 4.5%
Devon 2.4%
Northumbria 2.2%
Central England 1.7%
SE England 1.3%
NW England 1.2%
Cornwall 1.1%

Europe (South) 8.6%
Iberian Peninsula 4.4%
Tuscany 4.2%

Europe (North and West) 7.9%
Scandinavia 2.9%
France 2.8%
Germanic 2.2%

Trelvern
11-05-2018, 11:14 AM
[QUOTE=Tolan;510572]Some additional results ...
If you don't have British or Irish ancestor, but Living DNA gives you a fairly high percentage....

I don't understand the percentages attributed to me.

In complete mode i got

GB and IRE 76.9

SE ENG 14.3
CORN 11.6
N YORK 11.2
S ENG 10.9
E ANGL 4.6
ABERDEEN 4.4 (ORKNEY in cautious m why?)
S WALES bord 4
CUMBR 2.7
SC ENGL 2.5
S YORK 2.4
SW SCO N IRE 2.2
N WALES 1.9
DEVON 1.8
NW SCO 1.1
IRE 1.1

FRANCE 15.7
EUR S 7.4

In cautious mode it's different (East Anglia and South Central England bigger)


non-existent Ireland (but many genuine Irish people get derisory percentages.) Hit and miss...

Surprising North Yorkshire

BYLM
11-25-2018, 03:15 AM
French, mostly from NW (Normandie, Bretagne). Here below my Living DNA results:

Europe 100%

Great Britain and Ireland 53.5%
Devon 12.3%
Lincolnshire 12%
Aberdeenshire 5.4%
Central England 5.1%
East Anglia 4.6%
South Yorkshire 2.9%
Northwest Scotland 2.2%
South England 2.1%
Cornwall 1.7%
North Wales 1.6%
North Yorkshire 1.2%
Northwest England 1.2%
Ireland 1%

Europe (South) 36.1%
Iberian Peninsula 26.3%
Tuscany 7.4%
Basque 2.3%

Europe (North and West) 10.4%
Scandinavia 4.9%
France 4.1%
Germanic 1.4%

Paper trails : 25% Bretagne, 25% Normandie & NW France, 25% other France, 18.75% SW France, 6.25% USA (Irish & other)

Trelvern
11-25-2018, 07:07 AM
French, mostly from NW (Normandie, Bretagne). Here below my Living DNA results:

Europe 100%

Great Britain and Ireland 53.5%
Devon 12.3%
Lincolnshire 12%
Aberdeenshire 5.4%
Central England 5.1%
East Anglia 4.6%
South Yorkshire 2.9%
Northwest Scotland 2.2%
South England 2.1%
Cornwall 1.7%
North Wales 1.6%
North Yorkshire 1.2%
Northwest England 1.2%
Ireland 1%

Europe (South) 36.1%
Iberian Peninsula 26.3%
Tuscany 7.4%
Basque 2.3%

Europe (North and West) 10.4%
Scandinavia 4.9%
France 4.1%
Germanic 1.4%

Paper trails : 25% Bretagne, 25% Normandie & NW France, 25% other France, 18.75% SW France, 6.25% USA (Irish & other)

complete mode?
some similarities (U106) but paper trail 100% Brittany ,more Cornwall and N Yorkshire , no Lincolnshire less Devon and more France (although "French" includes part of Belgium and some Spanish areas.)

BYLM
11-25-2018, 12:39 PM
complete mode?
some similarities (U106) but paper trail 100% Brittany ,more Cornwall and N Yorkshire , no Lincolnshire less Devon and more France (although "French" includes part of Belgium and some Spanish areas.)

Yes, complete mode.
I guess Cornwall, Devon, etc... match more with Brittany and Lincolnshire with Normandy and North of France, but it is purely speculative.

Trelvern
11-25-2018, 05:34 PM
Yes, complete mode.
I guess Cornwall, Devon, etc... match more with Brittany and Lincolnshire with Normandy and North of France, but it is purely speculative.


Yes it is!
Cornwall indeed but not Devon in my case.

A thread in French is devoted to Brittany. This allows comparisons between Armoricans in particular.

Solothurn
02-28-2019, 05:48 PM
I agree :)

On Eurogenes calc I get:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% South_Dutch @ 4.341432



Of all nationalities I would say Dutch is the most likely to score some British. English people on the east coast are very similar to Dutch genetically.

homunculus
03-01-2019, 05:39 AM
Wow, people without British ancestry getting almost up 50% British results on LivingDNA. This company is an awful mess. I guess if you're non-British don't bother to pay for their testing.

Fitis
03-09-2019, 08:48 PM
I'm French (Father : Limousin ; Mother : Bourgogne & Rhône-Alpes).

My results :

Europe 100%
Great Britain and Ireland 46.1%
Southeast England 9.1%
Ireland 7.5%
Northumbria 3.8%
South England 3.7%
Cornwall 3.5%
Central England 3.4%
South Yorkshire 3%
Southwest Scotland and Northern Ireland 2.9%
South Wales 2.6%
South Central England 2.2%
Aberdeenshire 1.9%
Cumbria 1.3%
North Wales 1.1%

Europe (South) 44.2%
Iberian Peninsula 24.1%
Tuscany 12.9%
North Italy 7.2%

Europe (North and West) 9.7%
Scandinavia 9.7%

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Celt_??
03-10-2019, 03:18 AM
Sub Regions
Europe 95.2%
Great Britain and Ireland 91.7%
Lincolnshire 24.9%
Central England 18%
Aberdeenshire 7.4%
Cornwall 5.5%
Northwest Scotland 5.3%
Devon 4.5%
South Wales Border 4.2%
Northumbria 4.1%
Southeast England 3.6%
East Anglia 3.1%
Cumbria 2.3%
Southwest Scotland and Northern Ireland 2.2%
South Wales 2%
Northwest England 1.8%
Orkney and Shetland Islands 1.5%
Ireland 1.4%
Europe (East) 1.8%
Finland and Western Russia 1.8%
Europe (South) 1.7%
Iberian Peninsula 1.7%
Near East 4.8%
North Turkey


I'm from Ohio in USA.
29262

Trelvern
03-11-2019, 06:37 AM
Wow, people without British ancestry getting almost up 50% British results on LivingDNA. This company is an awful mess. I guess if you're non-British don't bother to pay for their testing.

it's worse: far more than 50%!
but not worse than other companies and ,in my case, i was not looking for British or Irish ancestors but :
first: get the Y ( my Heritage i tested previously doesn't)
second: check similarities between my own ADN and Isles areas's.

BYLM
04-18-2019, 06:41 PM
For comparison FTDNA versus LivingDNA :

29879

29880

agil
04-28-2019, 12:12 PM
I do have British and Irish in 23andMe (1.5% with V5 and 2.5% with V4) and 0 with Living DNA.

Björnsson
09-11-2019, 03:51 AM
I'm actually happy that my minority German and Dutch are counted along with my majority English, but am confused why I have no French, unless it's all amenable to Anglo-British, as Franco-Gaulish. It seems like my R1a is categorised as Pashtun instead of Polish, while my K is grouped as Aegean, probably because these two haplogroups aren't ubiquitous in the British Isles, unlike the rest of my Autosomal DNA... Living DNA writes on their website that their goal is to make the world come together, by seeing our common roots, but tweaking the nomenclature of genetic reference populations, wildly out of context, doesn't help with focus.

boilermeschew827
09-11-2019, 01:18 PM
I'm actually happy that my minority German and Dutch are counted along with my majority English, but am confused why I have no French, unless it's all amenable to Anglo-British, as Franco-Gaulish. It seems like my R1a is categorised as Pashtun instead of Polish, while my K is grouped as Aegean, probably because these two haplogroups aren't ubiquitous in the British Isles, unlike the rest of my Autosomal DNA... Living DNA writes on their website that their goal is to make the world come together, by seeing our common roots, but tweaking the nomenclature of genetic reference populations, wildly out of context, doesn't help with focus.

I'm not sure if you're referring to the pre-update update that some of us got back in April 2019, but LDNA has attempted to separate German from English. Looking at posts here and elsewhere, this seems to have been hit or miss. I know my assigned English disappeared and became Scandinavian and Germanic, actually in pretty close amounts to what I'd consider accurate in my case. I had both assignments in my original results, but too low.

As for French, this has been a complete enigma in my opinion. My initial results gave me just around 3% - way too low, it should be near 25% (as should Ancestry, but I digress here). I now show 0% France on LDNA. When I inquired about it after this April 2019 update, I was told by their customer service that they have a poor France reference panel due to restrictions on testing etc... They said some of my French could be going to Germanic and some or most could be going to a peculiar Scotland and Ireland category. The rest of my updated results are wildly everywhere. I have a very inflated amount of EE/Finnish/NW Russia, I suspect due to much uncertainty with the rest of my ancestry.

In terms of matching haplogroups to autosomal assignments, this is interesting. It's something I've considered in the past especially given my initial results from LDNA - I had 2% North Turkey. I initially wrote that off as noise, but I've wondered if that was some R1a mix up. Hard to tell since my direct paternal line did come out of the South Baltic Sea area. I also had 4% Iberian in my initial results - which made sense with my French ancestry and maternal haplogroup, I think.

Björnsson
09-11-2019, 01:28 PM
I'm not sure if you're referring to the pre-update update that some of us got back in April 2019, but LDNA has attempted to separate German from English. Looking at posts here and elsewhere, this seems to have been hit or miss. I know my assigned English disappeared and became Scandinavian and Germanic, actually in pretty close amounts to what I'd consider accurate in my case. I both assignments in my original results, but too low.

As for French, this has been a complete enigma in my opinion. My initial results gave me just around 3% - way too low, it should be near 25% (as should Ancestry, but I digress here). I now show 0% France on LDNA. When I inquired about it after this April 2019 update, I was told by their customer service that they have a poor France reference panel due to restrictions on testing etc... They said some of my French could be going to Germanic and some or most could be going to a peculiar Scotland and Ireland category. The rest of my updated results are wildly everywhere. I have a very inflated amount of EE/Finnish/NW Russia, I suspect due to much uncertainty with the rest of my ancestry.

In terms of matching haplogroups to autosomal assignments, this is interesting. It's something I've considered in the past especially given my initial results from LDNA - I had 2% North Turkey. I initially wrote that off as noise, but I've wondered if that was some R1a mix up. Hard to tell since my direct paternal line did come out of the South Baltic Sea area. I also had 4% Iberian in my initial results - which made sense with my French ancestry and maternal haplogroup, I think.

My wife's got Northwestern Europe and it is also shown in the map of British Isles subregions, a visible overlap in one report, without any updates or revisions.

Dalluin
10-20-2019, 12:42 PM
Hello Tolan

For Me , 7,9% English/Wales and 2,9 % Scotland just for the pleasure of LivingDna !!

Trelvern
10-20-2019, 04:07 PM
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Trelvern
10-20-2019, 04:08 PM
Hello Tolan

For Me , 7,9% English/Wales and 2,9 % Scotland just for the pleasure of LivingDna !!

84.3 Great Britain and Ireland(mostly Ireland/SW England)
and France?

Dalluin
10-20-2019, 05:12 PM
58,7 % french, 7,9% English/Wales and 2,9 % Scotland, 9,2 % german, 10,9 % north Italian, 10,2 % Iberan Peninsula
No ancestors except frenchs since 1800 and in general since 1600-1700's.
Mixed french (especially NW and NE regions + bordelais)
G25 coordinates confirmed me as average french (a very litte bit more east french) with mediteranean influence and small atlantic influence
No known british ancestors at all !! No known north italian ancestors too at all !!
As Norman, it could be better as anglo norman correlation for british %

Björnsson
10-29-2019, 05:22 AM
I'm actually happy that my minority German and Dutch are counted along with my majority English, but am confused why I have no French, unless it's all amenable to Anglo-British, as Franco-Gaulish. It seems like my R1a is categorised as Pashtun instead of Polish, while my K is grouped as Aegean, probably because these two haplogroups aren't ubiquitous in the British Isles, unlike the rest of my Autosomal DNA... Living DNA writes on their website that their goal is to make the world come together, by seeing our common roots, but tweaking the nomenclature of genetic reference populations, wildly out of context, doesn't help with focus.

What I find unhelpful about Living DNA, is how there's no middle ground, between my 91.2% British Isles on one hand, 7.6% Aegean and 1.2% Pashtun on the other, even though I know of neither making 8.8% non-British when they're far more distant than German, Dutch and French in my family tree. According to MDLP K23b Oracle, my English and Irish are rivaled by Frisian and Belgian in terms of nearness, with Scottish and Scandinavian at the bottom. This reflects my recent English and Irish ancestry, while one of my great-grandparents was born to a colonial New York family and the other a colonial Québec family. While I appreciate Living DNA providing my haplogroups, they're not very helpful with subclades. I also don't find much value in percentages, because distance plotting reveals far more about stronger vs weaker affinities in my family tree. I'm ancestrally Norwegian in the paternal line, but that's from 1066 and intermarriage with British Isles and Continental European folks has diluted this by maternal line admixtures, yet it still shows up in Oracle near the bottom of 20 places. Ancestry DNA says I'm 95-96% British Isles and 4-5% Norwegian, but once again, nothing else in between.

Arnfried
10-29-2019, 01:05 PM
The results of my mother: 34263

Her ancestors are French (75%) and Swiss (25%)...

Björnsson
10-29-2019, 09:10 PM
The results of my mother: 34263

Her ancestors are French (75%) and Swiss (25%)...

What does it say for Caution mode? That's the most important, in seeing the forest for the trees.

Claudio
11-05-2019, 09:50 AM
Double Post*

Claudio
11-05-2019, 09:50 AM
What I find unhelpful about Living DNA, is how there's no middle ground, between my 91.2% British Isles on one hand, 7.6% Aegean and 1.2% Pashtun on the other, even though I know of neither making 8.8% non-British when they're far more distant than German, Dutch and French in my family tree. According to MDLP K23b Oracle, my English and Irish are rivaled by Frisian and Belgian in terms of nearness, with Scottish and Scandinavian at the bottom. This reflects my recent English and Irish ancestry, while one of my great-grandparents was born to a colonial New York family and the other a colonial Québec family. While I appreciate Living DNA providing my haplogroups, they're not very helpful with subclades. I also don't find much value in percentages, because distance plotting reveals far more about stronger vs weaker affinities in my family tree. I'm ancestrally Norwegian in the paternal line, but that's from 1066 and intermarriage with British Isles and Continental European folks has diluted this by maternal line admixtures, yet it still shows up in Oracle near the bottom of 20 places. Ancestry DNA says I'm 95-96% British Isles and 4-5% Norwegian, but once again, nothing else in between.

To be honest LivingDNA are not very accurate. (I doubt you have Aegean DNA relatives to match there 7.6% Aegean Estimate,Just there crappy Algorithm,AncestryDNA are problematic also as they have had many Algorithm updates still using old V2 technology and although as a plus they have a huge DNA relative database,there Recent ancestry estimates have been odd to say the least. I would consider testing with 23andMe as currently they seem the most accurate and technological up to date.

Björnsson
11-05-2019, 03:25 PM
To be honest LivingDNA are not very accurate. (I doubt you have Aegean DNA relatives to match there 7.6% Aegean Estimate,Just there crappy Algorithm,AncestryDNA are problematic also as they have had many Algorithm updates still using old V2 technology and although as a plus they have a huge DNA relative database,there Recent ancestry estimates have been odd to say the least. I would consider testing with 23andMe as currently they seem the most accurate and technological up to date.

If not Aegean, what's the point of Pashtun? LDNA got my British Isles subregions correct, something 23andMe could not do. ADNA also got my Norwegian and who knows if 23andMe could. Does 23andMe have American regions? Ancestry does.

Claudio
11-05-2019, 03:56 PM
If not Aegean, what's the point of Pashtun? LDNA got my British Isles subregions correct, something 23andMe could not do. ADNA also got my Norwegian and who knows if 23andMe could. Does 23andMe have American regions? Ancestry does.

I’ve seen quite a few results with 1/2% random Pashtun god knows why there Algorithm generates that lol

Did not realize you had already tested with 23andMe?

Could you post your 23andMe results?

Björnsson
11-05-2019, 04:51 PM
I’ve seen quite a few results with 1/2% random Pashtun god knows why there Algorithm generates that lol

Did not realize you had already tested with 23andMe?

Could you post your 23andMe results?

I haven't wasted any more hard-earned money, so just those two, precisely for their British and American specialties. MDLP K23b gives me Volga German, which I link to Aegean. I like free Gedmatch a lot more than the prospect of paying all those companies.

erwangery
11-15-2019, 08:38 AM
Here are the results of my mother ( all known ancestors from Brittany):

1.Great Britain and Ireland: 61.3% (Ireland 19%, Devon 8.8%, South England 7.9%, South Central England 7.6%, Cornwall 5.8%, Northumbria 3.8%, South Wales 2.8%, North Wales, 2.5%, East Anglia, 2%, South Wales Border, 1.1%)

2.Europe (South): 19.5% ( North Italy, 14.6%; Basque 4.9%), 3.Europe (North and West): 14.3% (France), 4.Asia (South) :4.8% (Pashtun)
34638

Trelvern
11-15-2019, 08:58 AM
Here are the results of my mother ( all known ancestors from Brittany):

1.Great Britain and Ireland: 61.3% (Ireland 19%, Devon 8.8%, South England 7.9%, South Central England 7.6%, Cornwall 5.8%, Northumbria 3.8%, South Wales 2.8%, North Wales, 2.5%, East Anglia, 2%, South Wales Border, 1.1%)

2.Europe (South): 19.5% ( North Italy, 14.6%; Basque 4.9%), 3.Europe (North and West): 14.3% (France), 4.Asia (South) :4.8% (Pashtun)


34638



No France for me (on paper 100% breton since c.1700)

34639

sktibo
11-15-2019, 06:15 PM
No France for me (on paper 100% breton since c.1700)

34639

The consistent pattern I've seen for French DNA is that it either takes from the French reference population OR it selects a northern population like England and combines it with a southern population like Iberia, so
France = England plus Iberia in many cases

Or here it's both! (for erwangery)

Trelvern
11-20-2019, 06:02 PM
The consistent pattern I've seen for French DNA is that it either takes from the French reference population OR it selects a northern population like England and combines it with a southern population like Iberia, so
France = England plus Iberia in many cases

Or here it's both! (for erwangery)


Reflecting the difference between NW French (Brittany,Normandy...) and the other French .

tatals
11-20-2019, 07:03 PM
I'm not the best reference, because I'm fairly admixed and my results always seem to be all over the place in any company, but I also have no known British acenstry, and got up to 12.4% British and Wales. Please keep in mind that this is the upload version, as I haven't tested with them.

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I wouldn't think much of it, except that this percentage keeps showing in some Northern version: MyHeritage throws it to Scandinavia; DNA.Land is not trustworthy, but I was surprised to see that they also showed this amount as 'North Europe'.

I'm willing to test with Ancestry or 23andme, but they don't ship to my country as of yet, so I have to rely on what I have so far.

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Update: The only company that didn't show any 'North' was FTDNA, but then again they also seemed to forget all about my Iberia, so I'm always quick to forget about them. Oops.

erwangery
11-21-2019, 08:39 AM
I do not have any french either (3/4 Breton, 1/4 unknown) but my percentage of Iberian is very small, compared to Trelvern. I seem to be more shifted towards another southern population: Italians. I thought I would get a higher percentage for Cornwall as well. Bretons may originate from Devon after all.

1.G.B and Ireland: 79.9% (Ireland: 26%, Devon: 15.6%, South England: 7.7%, South Central England: 6.6%, Northumbria:
4.6%, East Anglia: 4.5%, Cumbria: 3.6%, North Wales: 3.2%, Northwest Scotland: 2.4%, Aberdeenshire: 2.4%, Cornwall: 1.9%, South Wales: 1.3%),
2. Italy: 14,5% (North Italy: 9.1%, Tuscany: 5.4%); 3. Asia (Pashtun): 3,1%; 4.Basque: 2.5%.
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