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mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 12:35 AM
I got my 23andme report and it's pretty standard for what I thought i'd have. im 99.9% south Asian my mt haplogroup is U7 and im 0.1 finnish at a low confidence level and im .3 perfect finnish at a 90% confidence level (I assume that's noise though still). I downloaded my raw data but everywhere I upload it says error. anyone else have this problem. for reference im telugu brahmin.

Censored
08-27-2018, 12:41 AM
Did you upload to Gedmatch genesis.

poi
08-27-2018, 01:08 AM
I got my 23andme report and it's pretty standard for what I thought i'd have. im 99.9% south Asian my mt haplogroup is U7 and im 0.1 finnish at a low confidence level and im .3 perfect finnish at a 90% confidence level (I assume that's noise though still). I downloaded my raw data but everywhere I upload it says error. anyone else have this problem. for reference im telugu brahmin.

Like Censored said, try:

https://genesis.gedmatch.com/login1.php

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 03:10 AM
I think it had something to do with the file. I just uploaded it. How long does gedmatch take to show results? I have my kit number I don't know how long the analysis takes.

also I have no idea what the u7 haplogroup is supposed to mean. does this mean it's a very old indian haplogroup? im still unlcear what it's supposed to mean in terms of me being telugu.

poi
08-27-2018, 03:23 AM
I think it had something to do with the file. I just uploaded it. How long does gedmatch take to show results? I have my kit number I don't know how long the analysis takes.

also I have no idea what the u7 haplogroup is supposed to mean. does this mean it's a very old indian haplogroup? im still unlcear what it's supposed to mean in terms of me being telugu.

What's your kit number(pm it if you want)?

I think U7 does not mean much in terms of your actual genetic ancestry, except your mom's mom's mom's ... Repeat until it reaches 11 thousand years earlier.... Eventually was likely from the Middle East.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep46044

"Here we report 267 new U7 mitogenomes that – analysed alongside 100 published ones – enable us to discern at least two distinct temporal phases of dispersal, both of which most likely emanated from the Near East. The earlier one began prior to the Holocene (~11.5 thousand years ago) towards South Asia, while the later dispersal took place more recently towards Mediterranean Europe during the Neolithic (~8 thousand years ago). These findings imply that the carriers of haplogroup U7 spread to South Asia and Europe before the suggested Bronze Age expansion of Indo-European languages from the Pontic-Caspian Steppe region."

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 03:24 AM
I checked my ancestry on wegene. im assuming it's not accurate AT ALL? im telugu. there's no way this is accurate. the africaand Cambodian would be so cool but the sindhi? I highly doubt that.... I don't know the african and Cambodian and even the oceanian and Chinese isn't picked up at all on 23andme. one of those can't be accurate... I mean it's genetic data, it's fairly straightforward. I think the African tribe was so cool in wegene though (mbuti, going to look them up). but it's not really possible that it's accurate im assuming?

im not able to post links or images so here goes from wegene:

indian:
-sindhi: 78.48% (highly doubtful)
-indian: 9.77 (huh?)
-Bengali: 7.90% I could see that since Andhra kind of is eastward?
-Others: 0.01%


Southeatasian: 2.06%
-Cambodian 2.05%
-Other 0.01%

Chinese:
-Hmong Mien 1.36%
-Other: 0.01%

Papuan: 0.20%

African: Mbuti: 0.15%

Others:
0.03%

My haplogroup also is slightly different. 23andme says U7 and wegene says U7a3

Censored
08-27-2018, 03:31 AM
I have U7 too(U7b). U7 is common from Iran to western India but certain branches will be more localized. U7a3 is a more specific class of U7, so not exactly different.

Wegene is not accurate at all. A lot of these sites are just meant to give a broad picture and help you notice patterns in comparison to others of your own background. DNA.land is the same.

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 03:46 AM
I am guessing it's not making any real sense here. sindhi? where on earth did that come from lol?

Jatt1
08-27-2018, 03:50 AM
I am guessing it's not making any real sense here. sindhi? where on earth did that come from lol?

Please post your Harappa World results and oracles here, and the experts here will explain it all to you.

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 03:52 AM
I uploaded my kit an hour ago and I keep getting that there is no kit there. how long does the kit take to process? sorry for some reason I can't reply with quotes or embed images or links.

Censored
08-27-2018, 03:56 AM
Please post your Harappa World results and oracles here, and the experts here will explain it all to you.
Lol. I think Poi, bmoney, and the others should be employed by the major testing companies. Just imagine that.


I uploaded my kit an hour ago and I keep getting that there is no kit there. how long does the kit take to process? sorry for some reason I can't reply with quotes or embed images or links.

Can you do it now? It might have been because your account is new, but now you show up as a registered user.

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 04:05 AM
Lol. I think Poi, bmoney, and the others should be employed by the major testing companies. Just imagine that.



Can you do it now? It might have been because your account is new, but now you show up as a registered user.

it works!

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 04:06 AM
Lol. I think Poi, bmoney, and the others should be employed by the major testing companies. Just imagine that.



how long does the processing take with gedmatch?

Censored
08-27-2018, 04:19 AM
how long does the processing take with gedmatch?

I have no idea but when I did it it was pretty quick, I think 12-24 hours.

poi
08-27-2018, 05:04 AM
how long does the processing take with gedmatch?

The calculators can be used right away. I never had to wait after uploading a kit. Try accessing some calculators (preferably Harappa if you are choosing one). Also please send me the kit number if you don't have issues with it.


I checked my ancestry on wegene. im assuming it's not accurate AT ALL? im telugu. there's no way this is accurate. the africaand Cambodian would be so cool but the sindhi? I highly doubt that.... I don't know the african and Cambodian and even the oceanian and Chinese isn't picked up at all on 23andme. one of those can't be accurate... I mean it's genetic data, it's fairly straightforward. I think the African tribe was so cool in wegene though (mbuti, going to look them up). but it's not really possible that it's accurate im assuming?
...

It is ANYTHING BUT straight forward. The allele calls might be straight-forward science, but analytics is crazy.

Jatt1
08-27-2018, 05:42 AM
I uploaded my kit an hour ago and I keep getting that there is no kit there. how long does the kit take to process? sorry for some reason I can't reply with quotes or embed images or links.

You are probably looking for your kit at gedmatch when it is at genesis, try here https://genesis.gedmatch.com/login1.php

sudkol
08-27-2018, 11:53 AM
how long does the processing take with gedmatch?

Were you able to upload your data to gedmatch ?

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 12:33 PM
Were you able to upload your data to gedmatch ?

no. the site is down for me now.

sudkol
08-27-2018, 12:38 PM
no. the site is down for me now.

Yes, same for me too. I also found dna.land (https://dna.land/) interesting.

sudkol
08-27-2018, 12:52 PM
My DNA land results-
25557

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 01:10 PM
Gedmatch is down but here's my dna land results with the ashkenazi jewish (i highly, highly doubt it if 23and me didnt pick it up)25559

khanabadoshi
08-27-2018, 01:27 PM
Gedmatch should give you a kit number immediately and that kit number will work on calculators within 1-2 minutes. You do not have to wait for the entire process to finish before using the calculators. The process that takes 12-24 hours is the tabulation of your genetic matches.

khanabadoshi
08-27-2018, 01:28 PM
MODERATOR NOTICE: There is DNA.land thread. All the major testing companies have a dedicated thread. Please post your results for a company in the appropriate thread and avoid creating new ones.

khanabadoshi
08-27-2018, 01:32 PM
I think it had something to do with the file. I just uploaded it. How long does gedmatch take to show results? I have my kit number I don't know how long the analysis takes.

also I have no idea what the u7 haplogroup is supposed to mean. does this mean it's a very old indian haplogroup? im still unlcear what it's supposed to mean in terms of me being telugu.

Are you U7a, U7b, .. U7a3... etc.?


Take your rawdata file and upload it here: https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

It will run on your mtDNA and provide a more detailed level of your haplogroup. You should at least get to know if you are U7a, U7b, U7c, etc; and likely you will get more details beyond that.
U7 is widespread, so to give you any context, we need a more specific designation under U7. My father is also U7 -- U7a3b I believe.

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 01:38 PM
Gedmatch should give you kit number immediately and that kit number will work on calculators within 1-2 minutes. You do not have to wait for the entire process to finish before using the calculators. The process that takes 12-24 hours is the tabulation of your genetic matches.

it keps saying my kit isnt found

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 01:52 PM
here it is from gedmatch!25560

bmoney
08-27-2018, 02:15 PM
here it is from gedmatch!25560

You score almost identically to the Telugu Brahmin reference samples (25 samples) so you are close to the Telugu Brahmin average.

Could you post your oracles? thats the oracle-4 button in your screenshot

Funny how genetically structured endogamy is in South Asia

ap-brahmin
xing
25
S Indian 49%
Baloch 36%
Caucasian 3%
NE Euro 6%
SE Asian 1%
Siberian 1%
NE Asian 1%
Papuan 1%
American 1%
Beringian 0%
Mediterranean 1%
SW Asian 1%
San 0%
E African 0%
Pygmy 0%
W African 0%

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 02:31 PM
You score almost identically to the Telugu Brahmin reference samples (25 samples) so you are close to the Telugu Brahmin average.

Could you post your oracles? thats the oracle-4 button in your screenshot

Funny how genetically structured endogamy is in South Asia

ap-brahmin
xing
25
S Indian 49%
Baloch 36%
Caucasian 3%
NE Euro 6%
SE Asian 1%
Siberian 1%
NE Asian 1%
Papuan 1%
American 1%
Beringian 0%
Mediterranean 1%
SW Asian 1%
San 0%
E African 0%
Pygmy 0%
W African 0%

This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: [email protected]
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

23 April 2013 - Oracle reference population percentages revised.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 48.43
2 Baloch 34.86
3 Caucasian 5.01
4 NE-Euro 5.01
5 Mediterranean 1.63
6 SW-Asian 1.62
7 Beringian 1.19


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 rajasthani_harappa @ 2.537518
2 ap-brahmin_xing @ 2.701334
3 iyengar-brahmin_harappa @ 2.960701
4 iyer-brahmin_harappa @ 3.060990
5 maharashtrian_harappa @ 3.233460
6 singapore-indian-b_sgvp @ 3.395315
7 karnataka-brahmin_harappa @ 3.510036
8 up_harappa @ 3.565565
9 tn-brahmin_xing @ 3.735329
10 brahmin-tamil-nadu_metspalu @ 3.853371
11 kerala-christian_harappa @ 4.469518
12 meghawal_reich @ 4.621890
13 goan_harappa @ 4.629487
14 kerala-nair_harappa @ 4.657842
15 bihari_harappa @ 4.769460
16 gujarati_harappa @ 4.779669
17 meghawal_metspalu @ 5.497052
18 lambadi_metspalu @ 5.558394
19 up-kshatriya_metspalu @ 5.688243
20 kerala_harappa @ 5.817750

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% chamar_metspalu +50% punjabi-arain_xing @ 1.796047


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% hallaki_reich +25% sindhi_hgdp +25% up-brahmin_harappa @ 1.322593


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++
1 hallaki_reich + hallaki_reich + sindhi_hgdp + up-brahmin_harappa @ 1.322593
2 brahmin-uttar-pradesh_metspalu + hallaki_reich + naidu_reich + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.323584
3 caribbean-indian_harappa + iyer-brahmin_harappa + kashmiri-pahari_harappa + naidu_reich @ 1.326773
4 bihari-brahmin_harappa + hallaki_reich + hallaki_reich + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.330435
5 goan_harappa + naidu_reich + punjabi-brahmin_harappa + sri-lankan_harappa @ 1.330526
6 caribbean-indian_harappa + kerala-nair_harappa + naidu_reich + punjabi-brahmin_harappa @ 1.344658
7 caribbean-indian_harappa + iyengar-brahmin_harappa + kashmiri-pahari_harappa + naidu_reich @ 1.354238
8 brahmin-uttar-pradesh_metspalu + hallaki_reich + hallaki_reich + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.372158
9 caribbean-indian_harappa + kashmiri-pahari_harappa + naidu_reich + tn-brahmin_xing @ 1.373752
10 iyengar-brahmin_harappa + iyengar-brahmin_harappa + north-kannadi_chaubey + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.388566
11 sindhi_hgdp + singapore-indian-c_sgvp + tn-dalit_xing + up-scheduled-caste_metspalu @ 1.395696
12 caribbean-indian_harappa + gujarati-a_1000genomes + naidu_reich + punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 1.399503
13 hakkipikki_metspalu + punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + up-scheduled-caste_metspalu @ 1.399739
14 brahmin-uttar-pradesh_metspalu + chamar_metspalu + gujarati-a_1000genomes + gujarati-muslim_harappa @ 1.404124
15 hallaki_reich + naidu_reich + punjabi-arain_xing + up-brahmin_harappa @ 1.407057
16 madiga_reich + naidu_reich + rajasthani-brahmin_harappa + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.411054
17 iyengar-brahmin_harappa + iyer-brahmin_harappa + north-kannadi_chaubey + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.417372
18 punjabi-brahmin_harappa + sindhi_hgdp + tn-dalit_xing + up-scheduled-caste_metspalu @ 1.417477
19 hallaki_reich + sindhi_hgdp + up-scheduled-caste_metspalu + vaish_reich @ 1.417923
20 iyengar-brahmin_harappa + karnataka-brahmin_harappa + north-kannadi_chaubey + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.418299

there you go

sudkol
08-27-2018, 02:47 PM
My results are here. Telugu Brahmin too-

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 42.04
2 Baloch 34.09
3 Caucasian 9.98
4 NE-Euro 6.56
5 SE-Asian 1.26
6 Mediterranean 1.18
7 Beringian 1.18
8 SW-Asian 1.13
9 NE-Asian 1.07
10 Papuan 0.71
11 American 0.55
12 Siberian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 bihari-muslim (harappa) 4.04
2 maharashtrian (harappa) 5.4
3 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 5.58
4 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 5.84
5 meghawal (reich) 6.05
6 brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) 6.27
7 tn-brahmin (xing) 6.6
8 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 6.63
9 vaish (reich) 6.63
10 gujarati-b (hapmap) 6.78
11 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 6.98
12 gujarati (harappa) 6.99
13 up-brahmin (harappa) 7.04
14 rajasthani (harappa) 7.06
15 cochin-jew (behar) 7.12
16 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 7.21
17 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 7.53
18 up-muslim (harappa) 7.55
19 kerala-christian (harappa) 7.7
20 ap-brahmin (xing) 8.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.4% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) + 15.6% stalskoe (xing) @ 0.84
2 91.8% maharashtrian (harappa) + 8.2% adygei (hgdp) @ 1.09
3 92.4% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) + 7.6% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 1.11
4 91.7% maharashtrian (harappa) + 8.3% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 1.12
5 92.7% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) + 7.3% georgian (behar) @ 1.14
6 91.8% maharashtrian (harappa) + 8.2% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 1.15
7 92.2% maharashtrian (harappa) + 7.8% georgian (harappa) @ 1.22
8 50.3% pathan (hgdp) + 49.7% hallaki (reich) @ 1.23
9 91.3% maharashtrian (harappa) + 8.7% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 1.24
10 92.7% maharashtrian (harappa) + 7.3% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 1.25
11 91% maharashtrian (harappa) + 9% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 1.27
12 84.8% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) + 15.2% urkarah (xing) @ 1.28
13 85% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) + 15% lezgin (behar) @ 1.3
14 92.9% maharashtrian (harappa) + 7.1% georgian (behar) @ 1.32
15 58.5% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 41.5% hallaki (reich) @ 1.33
16 92% maharashtrian (harappa) + 8% armenian (behar) @ 1.36
17 58.9% pathan (hgdp) + 41.1% madiga (reich) @ 1.41
18 89.2% iyer-brahmin (harappa) + 10.8% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 1.43
19 88% ap-brahmin (xing) + 12% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 1.43
20 56.6% pathan (hgdp) + 43.4% sakilli (chaubey) @ 1.47

sudkol
08-27-2018, 02:49 PM
Do you know which sect you are ?

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 03:08 PM
Are you U7a, U7b, .. U7a3... etc.?


Take your rawdata file and upload it here: https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

It will run on your mtDNA and provide a more detailed level of your haplogroup. You should at least get to know if you are U7a, U7b, U7c, etc; and likely you will get more details beyond that.
U7 is widespread, so to give you any context, we need a more specific designation under U7. My father is also U7 -- U7a3b I believe.

i just ran the test and my closest match was u7a3 and my second closest was u7. 23andme only gives u7 and wegene gave me u7a3 as well.

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 03:11 PM
Do you know which sect you are ?

i only know the following:
im originally telugu, my last name ought to be sharma and we are vaidiki or vellanadu or something. not even sure exactly what that means. on a side note i have a huge family and am probably related to every telugu brahmin out there.

sudkol
08-27-2018, 03:53 PM
lol I am vaidiki too. Vaidikis score higher NEEuro on Harappa compared to Niyogis.

sudkol
08-27-2018, 03:58 PM
My mtDNA is H2a2a1.

sudkol
08-27-2018, 03:59 PM
Sharma is a title meaning do-gooder. It was never meant to be hereditary. I am so glad my parents didn't give any long windy sharma shastry murthy name lol

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 05:07 PM
lol I am vaidiki too. Vaidikis score higher NEEuro on Harappa compared to Niyogis.

we are probbaly related. i say this coz i find out i have the bigest family and have found long long relatives after years of knowing them and then finding out oh hey, we are related.
so yes, i am quite certain i am vaidiki or something. and my mtgroup is u7 as per 23andme and wegene and the other link provided in this thread says im u7a3

sudkol
08-27-2018, 05:18 PM
we are probbaly related. i say this coz i find out i have the bigest family and have found long long relatives after years of knowing them and then finding out oh hey, we are related.
so yes, i am quite certain i am vaidiki or something. and my mtgroup is u7 as per 23andme and wegene and the other link provided in this thread says im u7a3

I too discovered two second cousins, one in Arizona and the second in California. There aren't many vaidiki families in any given region. So, its very likely there was intermarriage within the last 4-5 generations.

mlakshmi
08-27-2018, 05:31 PM
I too discovered two second cousins, one in Arizona and the second in California. There aren't many vaidiki families in any given region. So, its very likely there was intermarriage within the last 4-5 generations.

would our haplogroups have to be the same for us to be related?

sudkol
08-27-2018, 05:37 PM
If our mtDNA haplogroups are the same, then we could be related maternally. It's possible to be paternally related if you father has the same y dna haplogroup as me.

Censored
08-27-2018, 06:23 PM
My family are Muslims from the Deccan region. I think there is a chance that my father is of Telugu Brahmin origins because we have basically ruled out Afghan or any kind of foreign admixture for myself(although his extended family is another story). My moms side is Marathi-they are clearly not upper caste extraction. My Harappa results are largely consistent with this hypothesis-I score almost exactly half as much NE-Euro as you which is what you expect if one side is Telugu Brahmin.


# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 49.8
2 Baloch 32.77
3 Caucasian 7.44
4 NE-Euro 2.7
5 SE-Asian 1.49
6 Papuan 1.32
7 Mediterranean 1.18
8 American 0.82
9 NE-Asian 0.73
10 Beringian 0.69
11 SW-Asian 0.46
12 E-African 0.41
13 Pygmy 0.09
14 Siberian 0.08

So we may all be related here, you me sudkol.

sudkol
08-27-2018, 06:55 PM
I thought you were Tamil brahmin for some reason lol. Your high caucasian also matches with mine.

sudkol
08-27-2018, 08:52 PM
My family are Muslims from the Deccan region. I think there is a chance that my father is of Telugu Brahmin origins because we have basically ruled out Afghan or any kind of foreign admixture for myself(although his extended family is another story). My moms side is Marathi-they are clearly not upper caste extraction. My Harappa results are largely consistent with this hypothesis-I score almost exactly half as much NE-Euro as you which is what you expect if one side is Telugu Brahmin.


# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 49.8
2 Baloch 32.77
3 Caucasian 7.44
4 NE-Euro 2.7
5 SE-Asian 1.49
6 Papuan 1.32
7 Mediterranean 1.18
8 American 0.82
9 NE-Asian 0.73
10 Beringian 0.69
11 SW-Asian 0.46
12 E-African 0.41
13 Pygmy 0.09
14 Siberian 0.08

So we may all be related here, you me sudkol.

If your dad had a profile like mine, (Caucasian 10, NEEuro 6.5) and your mother had no NEEUro and lower Caucasian, that would explain your numbers I think. A lot of Telugu Brahmins accepted Islam in the middle ages. I remember reading about the tomb of Malik Maqbul Tilangi in Nizamuddin, Delhi. He was the Brahmin minister of the Kakatiya king who accepted Islam after the fall of Warangal and became a minister in the Delhi court. I think Shahrukh's mother is also of Telugu Brahmin (or at least some kind of South Indian Brahmin) ethnicity. Her ancestral house is still in Tolichowki area of Hyderabad.

Censored
08-27-2018, 09:05 PM
If your dad had a profile like mine, (Caucasian 10, NEEuro 6.5) and your mother had no NEEUro and lower Caucasian, that would explain your numbers I think. A lot of Telugu Brahmins accepted Islam in the middle ages. I remember reading about the tomb of Malik Maqbul Tilangi in Nizamuddin, Delhi. He was the Brahmin minister of the Kakatiya king who accepted Islam after the fall of Warangal and became a minister in the Delhi court. I think Shahrukh's mother is also of Telugu Brahmin (or at least some kind of South Indian Brahmin) ethnicity. Her ancestral house is still in Tolichowki area of Hyderabad.

Yes, my dad looks quite Telugu/SI Brahmin although he has always claimed Arab. There is definitely Pashtun ancestry in part of his family, but it seemingly is from a different lineage than his own. I know because I don’t show Pashtun affinity any calcs. I think there is some tribal type influence on my moms side too seeing high SE Asian and Papuan. Have you uploaded to ftDNA? If so, can I see your results?

sudkol
08-27-2018, 09:28 PM
You mean my Y dna haplogroup ? I am J2b2 M241 which others on the forum tell me is surprising for a Brahmin. We can even do a one-to-one compare on gedmatch. Old city in Hyderabad is a total soup of ethnicities. One can find central asian looking individuals and tribal looking ones in the same frame everywhere.

Censored
08-27-2018, 10:06 PM
You mean my Y dna haplogroup ? I am J2b2 M241 which others on the forum tell me is surprising for a Brahmin. We can even do a one-to-one compare on gedmatch. Old city in Hyderabad is a total soup of ethnicities. One can find central asian looking individuals and tribal looking ones in the same frame everywhere.

Oh no, I’m talking about the myorigins thing. Do you have it? You can do an autosomal transfer if you have the raw data from elsewhere for a fee of $20. Check out the ftDNA sticky thread to see what I’m talking about.

khanabadoshi
08-28-2018, 12:49 AM
would our haplogroups have to be the same for us to be related?

No, however, if you have the same yDNA-hg subclade as someone who shares the same clan/gorta/tribe as yourself, it lends strong credence to a relation -- as they are the only 2 identifiers that are strictly patrilineal. With mtDNA, this is less the case, as most people don't retain the name of their mother's mother's mother's... etc lineage, rather the mother is taking the name of her father's or husband's lineage, which won't correlate to her mtDNA-hg.

sudkol
08-28-2018, 02:46 PM
My Dodecad V3 results-

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 51.75
2 West_Asian 16.53
3 West_European 8.29
4 East_European 6.16
5 Mediterranean 6.02
6 Southeast_Asian 6.01
7 Southwest_Asian 2.44
8 Northeast_Asian 2.11
9 East_African 0.43
10 Northwest_African 0.14
11 Palaeo_African 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Meghawal (Reich) 3.92
2 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 5.51
3 Vaish (Reich) 5.54
4 TN_Brahmin (Xing) 6.55
5 AP_Brahmin (Xing) 7.36
6 Srivastava (Reich) 7.68
7 Pakistani (Xing) 8.86
8 Sindhi (HGDP) 9.28
9 Kashmiri_Pandit (Reich) 10.33
10 Indian (Dodecad) 10.39
11 Burusho (HGDP) 12.29
12 Tharu (Reich) 12.33
13 Velama (Reich) 12.37
14 Lodi (Reich) 13.99
15 INS (SGVP) 14.21
16 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 15.24
17 Pathan (HGDP) 15.25
18 Hallaki (Reich) 16.64
19 Naidu (Reich) 17.41
20 GIH (HapMap) 17.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.5% AP_Brahmin (Xing) + 41.5% Kashmiri_Pandit (Reich) @ 0.94
2 58.3% Pakistani (Xing) + 41.7% Tharu (Reich) @ 0.97
3 73.4% Pakistani (Xing) + 26.6% Chenchu (Reich) @ 0.97
4 72.8% Pakistani (Xing) + 27.2% AP_Mala (Xing) @ 1.17
5 71.1% Pakistani (Xing) + 28.9% Kurumba (Reich) @ 1.2
6 61.4% Pathan (HGDP) + 38.6% Mala (Reich) @ 1.3
7 60.1% Pathan (HGDP) + 39.9% AP_Madiga (Xing) @ 1.32
8 58.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 41.3% Kurumba (Reich) @ 1.34
9 52.2% Lodi (Reich) + 47.8% Pathan (HGDP) @ 1.39
10 57.8% Pathan (HGDP) + 42.2% Bhil (Reich) @ 1.41
11 52.2% Pathan (HGDP) + 47.8% Hallaki (Reich) @ 1.43
12 61.5% Pathan (HGDP) + 38.5% Chenchu (Reich) @ 1.49
13 57.2% Pathan (HGDP) + 42.8% Kamsali (Reich) @ 1.52
14 61.5% Pakistani (Xing) + 38.5% Lodi (Reich) @ 1.54
15 60.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 39.3% AP_Mala (Xing) @ 1.55
16 69.9% Pakistani (Xing) + 30.1% Kamsali (Reich) @ 1.55
17 75.9% Hallaki (Reich) + 24.1% Urkarah (Xing) @ 1.56
18 77.9% INS (SGVP) + 22.1% Stalskoe (Xing) @ 1.57
19 69.7% Pakistani (Xing) + 30.3% Satnami (Reich) @ 1.58
20 73.5% Pakistani (Xing) + 26.5% Mala (Reich) @ 1.66

sudkol
08-28-2018, 02:53 PM
MDLP K16 results-

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Indian 54.97
2 Caucasian 18.42
3 SouthEastAsian 8.38
4 Steppe 7.11
5 Australian 2.73
6 Oceanic 2.2
7 NorthEastEuropean 2.02
8 Neolithic 1.64
9 Arctic 1.28
10 Amerindian 1.16
11 Ancestor 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kshatriya (India) 4.6
2 Meena (Rajasthan) 4.67
3 Brahmin (Uttar_Pradesh) 5.44
4 Vaish (Odisha) 5.75
5 Brahmin (India) 5.95
6 Jatt (Muslim) 6.07
7 Meghawal (Gujarat) 6.23
8 Brahmin (Tamil_Nadu) 6.5
9 Sindhi (Sindh) 6.98
10 Gujjar (Punjab) 7.66
11 Burusho (Pakistan) 8.06
12 GujaratiA (Gujarat) 8.34
13 Jatt (Pahari) 8.4
14 Srivastava (India) 8.41
15 Kashmiri_Pandit (Kashmir) 8.67
16 Thakur (Maharashtra) 9.22
17 Lambadi (Karnataka) 9.81
18 Kanjars (Punjab) 9.88
19 Muslim (India) 10.14
20 Velama (Andhra_Pradesh) 10.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.3% Sindhi (Sindh) + 9.7% Aeta (Philippines) @ 2.45
2 81.5% Gupta (Rajput) + 18.5% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 2.45
3 90.8% Sindhi (Sindh) + 9.2% Batak (Philippines) @ 2.5
4 71.9% Gujjar (Punjab) + 28.1% Satnami (Uttar_Pradesh) @ 2.55
5 72.4% Gujjar (Punjab) + 27.6% Gond (Maharashtra) @ 2.55
6 57.4% Jatt (Pahari) + 42.6% Kurmi (Nepal) @ 2.55
7 59.5% Kashmiri_Pandit (Kashmir) + 40.5% Gupta (Rajput) @ 2.55
8 80.9% Velama (Andhra_Pradesh) + 19.1% Ava (Dagestan_Khunzakh) @ 2.58
9 81.1% Velama (Andhra_Pradesh) + 18.9% Tabasaran (Dagestan) @ 2.61
10 92% Sindhi (Sindh) + 8% Bajo (Indonesia) @ 2.62
11 75% Gujjar (Punjab) + 25% Nihali (Madhya_Pradesh) @ 2.65
12 76.3% Gujjar (Punjab) + 23.7% Asur (Jharkhand) @ 2.69
13 64.3% Gujjar (Punjab) + 35.7% Orissa (India) @ 2.73
14 80.5% Velama (Andhra_Pradesh) + 19.5% Dargin (Urkarah) @ 2.73
15 76.2% Gujjar (Punjab) + 23.8% Santhal (Jharkhand) @ 2.74
16 60.4% Kashmiri_Pandit (Kashmir) + 39.6% Lodi (Pakistan) @ 2.76
17 80.6% Velama (Andhra_Pradesh) + 19.4% Avar (Dagestan) @ 2.8
18 78.9% Gupta (Rajput) + 21.1% Tabasaran (Dagestan) @ 2.82
19 56.6% Kashmiri_Pandit (Kashmir) + 43.4% Kurmi (Nepal) @ 2.83
20 75.9% Gujjar (Punjab) + 24.1% Sahariya (Madhya_Pradesh) @ 2.84

@mlakshmi how do your results compare ?

mlakshmi
08-28-2018, 04:37 PM
im starting to feel like the other dna breakdowns weren't bogus after all. wegene picks up on the mbuntu/African element and they are apparently a pygmy tribe. many other calculators seem to pick up on that. and the maternal ancestry for Ashkenazi jews (https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html) comes from north eastern Europe. so maybe dna land picked up on that? that kiinda makes it seem like the 0.1 percent 23andme could pick up of the finnish is not noise (even at 90% confidence level I have 0.1) and seem legit?

I don't know what the other calculators are on gedmatch but a lot of them pick up on different things and they do show south east Asian, Ashkenazi, and the pygmy element popping up.


MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

#
Population
Percent
1
Indian
63.05
2
Caucasian
12.37
3
Steppe
7.54
4
SouthEastAsian
5.04
5
Australian
3.40
6
NorthEastEuropean
1.99
7
EastAfrican
1.51
8
Amerindian
1.46
9
Neolithic
1.38
10
Ancestor
1.26


Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 GujaratiB_Gujarat @ 4.701913
2 Thakur_Maharashtra @ 5.919213
3 Meghawal_Gujarat @ 6.538397
4 GujaratiA_Gujarat @ 6.784987
5 Dharkar_Uttar_Pradesh @ 6.969489
6 Tharu_Nepal @ 7.031724
7 Muslim_India @ 7.386750
8 Srivastava_India @ 7.454276
9 Velama_Andhra_Pradesh @ 8.318986
10 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh @ 8.516989
11 Brahmin_Tamil_Nadu @ 8.645350
12 Kurmi_Nepal @ 8.753934
13 Marwadi_Rajasthan @ 8.847223
14 Kanjars_Punjab @ 8.901054
15 Gupta_Rajput @ 8.961832
16 Balija_Andhra_Pradesh @ 9.303401
17 Punjabi_Punjab @ 9.437227
18 Lodi_Pakistan @ 9.451126
19 Vaish_Odisha @ 9.464471
20 Lambadi_Karnataka @ 9.535278

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Brahmin_India +50% GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.886975


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% GujaratiC_Gujarat +25% Pathan_Punjab +25% Vaish_Odisha @ 3.830560


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Burusho_Pakistan + GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiD_Gujarat @ 3.735296
2 Burusho_Pakistan + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.758220
3 Burusho_Pakistan + GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.780604
4 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh @ 3.787741
5 GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh + Vaish_Odisha @ 3.793444
6 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Pathan_Punjab @ 3.794224
7 Brahmin_India + GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Jatt_Muslim @ 3.797960
8 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Kashmiri_Pandit_Kashmir @ 3.800161
9 Brahmin_India + Burusho_Pakistan + GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.816350
10 GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Pathan_Punjab + Vaish_Odisha @ 3.830560
11 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh + Tharu_Nepal @ 3.838517
12 Chamar_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiB_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh @ 3.854088
13 GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Jatt_Muslim + Scheduled_Caste_Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.856770
14 Chamar_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Pathan_Punjab @ 3.858676
15 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Thakur_Maharashtra @ 3.862180
16 Burusho_Pakistan + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Thakur_Maharashtra @ 3.863434
17 GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiB_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh + Scheduled_Caste_Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.865417
18 Brahmin_India + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh + Scheduled_Caste_Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.873388
19 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.883047
20 Brahmin_India + Brahmin_India + GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.886975

mlakshmi
08-28-2018, 04:40 PM
Dodecad V3 4-Ancestors Oracle

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

#
Population
Percent
1
South_Asian
57.32
2
West_Asian
11.51
3
West_European
9.43
4
Mediterranean
5.55
5
Southeast_Asian
4.53
6
Southwest_Asian
3.92
7
East_European
3.19
8
Northeast_Asian
2.37
9
Neo_African
1.07


Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 AP_Brahmin_Xing @ 3.272736
2 TN_Brahmin_Xing @ 4.183905
3 Meghawal_Reich @ 5.535943
4 Indian_Dodecad @ 5.905965
5 Srivastava_Reich @ 7.554782
6 Vaish_Reich @ 7.610345
7 Cochin_Jews_Behar @ 8.559814
8 Tharu_Reich @ 9.186172
9 Lodi_Reich @ 9.643719
10 INS_SGVP @ 9.687673
11 Velama_Reich @ 10.566919
12 Hallaki_Reich @ 12.493127
13 Naidu_Reich @ 12.728750
14 GIH_HapMap @ 12.961317
15 Vysya_Reich @ 13.940445
16 Kamsali_Reich @ 16.312023
17 Sindhi_HGDP @ 16.352280
18 Bhil_Reich @ 16.807764
19 Pakistani_Xing @ 16.833889
20 Satnami_Reich @ 17.658726

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% AP_Brahmin_Xing +50% AP_Brahmin_Xing @ 3.272736


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irula_Xing +25% Stalskoe_Xing +25% Vaish_Reich @ 2.948042


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++
1 Irula_Xing + Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing + Vaish_Reich @ 2.948042
2 GIH_HapMap + Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing + Madiga_Reich @ 2.950127
3 Cochin_Jews_Behar + Indian_Dodecad + AP_Brahmin_Xing + AP_Brahmin_Xing @ 3.082565
4 GIH_HapMap + AP_Mala_Xing + Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing @ 3.091825
5 Sindhi_HGDP + Naidu_Reich + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.127332
6 Sindhi_HGDP + AP_Brahmin_Xing + TN_Dalit_Xing + Vaish_Reich @ 3.132257
7 Indian_Dodecad + Sindhi_HGDP + AP_Mala_Xing + Vaish_Reich @ 3.133044
8 INS_SGVP + Sindhi_HGDP + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.140622
9 GIH_HapMap + Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing + Bhil_Reich @ 3.151840
10 Cochin_Jews_Behar + GIH_HapMap + AP_Brahmin_Xing + Vaish_Reich @ 3.165352
11 Sindhi_HGDP + AP_Brahmin_Xing + AP_Brahmin_Xing + Naidu_Reich @ 3.165389
12 Pathan_HGDP + Madiga_Reich + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.177353
13 INS_SGVP + Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing + Madiga_Reich @ 3.198488
14 Sindhi_HGDP + Lodi_Reich + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.199485
15 Indian_Dodecad + Sindhi_HGDP + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.223291
16 Bnei_Menashe_Jews_Behar + Indian_Dodecad + Madiga_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.226812
17 Cochin_Jews_Behar + Indian_Dodecad + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.227304
18 Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing + Madiga_Reich + Naidu_Reich @ 3.227448
19 AP_Brahmin_Xing + Meghawal_Reich + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.228445
20 Indian_Dodecad + Pathan_HGDP + AP_Brahmin_Xing + AP_Mala_Xing @ 3.243955

sudkol
08-28-2018, 07:10 PM
im starting to feel like the other dna breakdowns weren't bogus after all. wegene picks up on the mbuntu/African element and they are apparently a pygmy tribe. many other calculators seem to pick up on that. and the maternal ancestry for Ashkenazi jews (https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html) comes from north eastern Europe. so maybe dna land picked up on that? that kiinda makes it seem like the 0.1 percent 23andme could pick up of the finnish is not noise (even at 90% confidence level I have 0.1) and seem legit?

I don't know what the other calculators are on gedmatch but a lot of them pick up on different things and they do show south east Asian, Ashkenazi, and the pygmy element popping up.


MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

#
Population
Percent
1
Indian
63.05
2
Caucasian
12.37
3
Steppe
7.54
4
SouthEastAsian
5.04
5
Australian
3.40
6
NorthEastEuropean
1.99
7
EastAfrican
1.51
8
Amerindian
1.46
9
Neolithic
1.38
10
Ancestor
1.26


Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 GujaratiB_Gujarat @ 4.701913
2 Thakur_Maharashtra @ 5.919213
3 Meghawal_Gujarat @ 6.538397
4 GujaratiA_Gujarat @ 6.784987
5 Dharkar_Uttar_Pradesh @ 6.969489
6 Tharu_Nepal @ 7.031724
7 Muslim_India @ 7.386750
8 Srivastava_India @ 7.454276
9 Velama_Andhra_Pradesh @ 8.318986
10 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh @ 8.516989
11 Brahmin_Tamil_Nadu @ 8.645350
12 Kurmi_Nepal @ 8.753934
13 Marwadi_Rajasthan @ 8.847223
14 Kanjars_Punjab @ 8.901054
15 Gupta_Rajput @ 8.961832
16 Balija_Andhra_Pradesh @ 9.303401
17 Punjabi_Punjab @ 9.437227
18 Lodi_Pakistan @ 9.451126
19 Vaish_Odisha @ 9.464471
20 Lambadi_Karnataka @ 9.535278

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Brahmin_India +50% GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.886975


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% GujaratiC_Gujarat +25% Pathan_Punjab +25% Vaish_Odisha @ 3.830560


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Burusho_Pakistan + GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiD_Gujarat @ 3.735296
2 Burusho_Pakistan + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.758220
3 Burusho_Pakistan + GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.780604
4 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh @ 3.787741
5 GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh + Vaish_Odisha @ 3.793444
6 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Pathan_Punjab @ 3.794224
7 Brahmin_India + GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Jatt_Muslim @ 3.797960
8 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Kashmiri_Pandit_Kashmir @ 3.800161
9 Brahmin_India + Burusho_Pakistan + GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.816350
10 GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Pathan_Punjab + Vaish_Odisha @ 3.830560
11 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh + Tharu_Nepal @ 3.838517
12 Chamar_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiB_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh @ 3.854088
13 GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Jatt_Muslim + Scheduled_Caste_Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.856770
14 Chamar_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Pathan_Punjab @ 3.858676
15 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Thakur_Maharashtra @ 3.862180
16 Burusho_Pakistan + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Thakur_Maharashtra @ 3.863434
17 GujaratiA_Gujarat + GujaratiB_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh + Scheduled_Caste_Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.865417
18 Brahmin_India + GujaratiC_Gujarat + Sindhi_Sindh + Scheduled_Caste_Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.873388
19 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh + GujaratiB_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.883047
20 Brahmin_India + Brahmin_India + GujaratiC_Gujarat + GujaratiC_Gujarat @ 3.886975

No it's not bogus imo. I think they have different population samples. You have similar steppe and northeasternEuro as me. But, higher Indian and lower Caucasian. Do you know if you had any admixture with Tamil Brahmins ? That could be the source of higher Indian.

sudkol
08-28-2018, 07:21 PM
Dodecad V3 4-Ancestors Oracle

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

#
Population
Percent
1
South_Asian
57.32
2
West_Asian
11.51
3
West_European
9.43
4
Mediterranean
5.55
5
Southeast_Asian
4.53
6
Southwest_Asian
3.92
7
East_European
3.19
8
Northeast_Asian
2.37
9
Neo_African
1.07


Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 AP_Brahmin_Xing @ 3.272736
2 TN_Brahmin_Xing @ 4.183905
3 Meghawal_Reich @ 5.535943
4 Indian_Dodecad @ 5.905965
5 Srivastava_Reich @ 7.554782
6 Vaish_Reich @ 7.610345
7 Cochin_Jews_Behar @ 8.559814
8 Tharu_Reich @ 9.186172
9 Lodi_Reich @ 9.643719
10 INS_SGVP @ 9.687673
11 Velama_Reich @ 10.566919
12 Hallaki_Reich @ 12.493127
13 Naidu_Reich @ 12.728750
14 GIH_HapMap @ 12.961317
15 Vysya_Reich @ 13.940445
16 Kamsali_Reich @ 16.312023
17 Sindhi_HGDP @ 16.352280
18 Bhil_Reich @ 16.807764
19 Pakistani_Xing @ 16.833889
20 Satnami_Reich @ 17.658726

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% AP_Brahmin_Xing +50% AP_Brahmin_Xing @ 3.272736


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irula_Xing +25% Stalskoe_Xing +25% Vaish_Reich @ 2.948042


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++
1 Irula_Xing + Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing + Vaish_Reich @ 2.948042
2 GIH_HapMap + Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing + Madiga_Reich @ 2.950127
3 Cochin_Jews_Behar + Indian_Dodecad + AP_Brahmin_Xing + AP_Brahmin_Xing @ 3.082565
4 GIH_HapMap + AP_Mala_Xing + Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing @ 3.091825
5 Sindhi_HGDP + Naidu_Reich + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.127332
6 Sindhi_HGDP + AP_Brahmin_Xing + TN_Dalit_Xing + Vaish_Reich @ 3.132257
7 Indian_Dodecad + Sindhi_HGDP + AP_Mala_Xing + Vaish_Reich @ 3.133044
8 INS_SGVP + Sindhi_HGDP + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.140622
9 GIH_HapMap + Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing + Bhil_Reich @ 3.151840
10 Cochin_Jews_Behar + GIH_HapMap + AP_Brahmin_Xing + Vaish_Reich @ 3.165352
11 Sindhi_HGDP + AP_Brahmin_Xing + AP_Brahmin_Xing + Naidu_Reich @ 3.165389
12 Pathan_HGDP + Madiga_Reich + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.177353
13 INS_SGVP + Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing + Madiga_Reich @ 3.198488
14 Sindhi_HGDP + Lodi_Reich + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.199485
15 Indian_Dodecad + Sindhi_HGDP + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.223291
16 Bnei_Menashe_Jews_Behar + Indian_Dodecad + Madiga_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.226812
17 Cochin_Jews_Behar + Indian_Dodecad + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.227304
18 Irula_Xing + Stalskoe_Xing + Madiga_Reich + Naidu_Reich @ 3.227448
19 AP_Brahmin_Xing + Meghawal_Reich + Naidu_Reich + Vaish_Reich @ 3.228445
20 Indian_Dodecad + Pathan_HGDP + AP_Brahmin_Xing + AP_Mala_Xing @ 3.243955

Dodecad V3 seems pretty accurate. Two population approximation is AP_Brahmin + AP_Brahmin. Our results are pretty similar with this calculator. You have slightly higher West European. That must be from the Bell Beakers. I have higher west asian which I think is similar to the Caucasian component in Harappa.