View Full Version : New Iranian J1b M365 types (J1a1 ISOGG) in the new Afghan Hindu Kush paper

10-28-2013, 01:29 PM
PLoS ONE 8(10): e76748. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0076748
Afghan Hindu Kush: Where Eurasian Sub-Continent Gene Flows Converge
Julie Di Cristofaro et al.

Four new Iranian J1b M365 types (J1a1 ISOGG)

J-M267 IR2_39 Esfahan
J-M267 IR4_9 Khorasan
J-M267 IR7_2 South Iran
J-M267 IR8_12 Teheran

Table S5.
Y-Chromosome STR profile for each individual in populations from Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan (CEPH), Mongolia, Kyrgyzstan.

The comparative table with the other members of the J-M365 cluster

67 markers
82640 Dominguez - Spain, Galicia
N54547 Sardinha - Azores, Portugal
73612 Oliveira - Brazil - Portugal
265306 Nogueira - Brazil
211891 Ley - Devon, England

43 markers
Semnan - Iran - SMGF
Fars- Iran - SMGF
Tehran - Iran - SMGF
Ferrere - Reunion - Portugal- SMGF
Gonçalves - Brazil - Portugal - SMGF
Leon - Peru - SMGF
Oliveira - Brazil - Portugal - FTDNA
Ley - England - FTDNA
J-M267 IR2_39 Esfahan
J-M267 IR4_9 Khorasan
J-M267 IR7_2 South Iran
J-M267 IR8_12 Teheran


They would share a common ancestor in the last 1600-2000 years (modal TMRCA) connecting Iranian populations with the Atlantic Western Iberia and Brazil. (obs. corrections in DYS464 and 442 to match the FTDNA pattern)


I keep the hypothesis of the Iranian Alanic invasion of Western Europe as the source of the cluster in Portugal (Roman Lusitania and Gallaecia). The Ancient Alans Y DNA were incorporated and assimilated as one of the core mainstream members of the Portuguese Empire.

Let's wait my Y Full Genome !

J1 DYS388=13
10-28-2013, 08:31 PM
Good work, Ricardo!

10-28-2013, 10:58 PM
Thanks ! Have you seen the three 388=13 there !

J-M267 DYS388 short TK9_10 Turkmen-Jawzjan
J-M267 DYS388 short UZ8_79 Uzbek-Jawzjan
J-M267 DYS388 short CEPH_5_E10_HGDP00197 Sindhi


J1 DYS388=13
10-30-2013, 05:49 AM
Yes, thanks.

I no longer do anything with data from that area, due to religious-based complaints.

10-31-2013, 07:58 PM
I see... we are used to deal with those people for a long time !
I found another Brazilian J1b haplotype in YHRD Release 45
Release 45 – greatest possible update

05-30-2018, 06:03 PM
This is interesting.

05-30-2018, 10:08 PM
Yes, indeed !
Now we have one Iranian J1-M365 fully investigated
J-Y19467FGC6109 * FGC6097 * FGC5992+25 SNPsformed 5300 ybp, TMRCA 2400 ybpinfo
id:YF11239IRN [IR-21]
J-FGC6035FGC6111 * FGC6168 * FGC6095+6 SNPsformed 2400 ybp, TMRCA 1350 ybpinfo
id:YF01554PRT [PT-03]
J-Y56960Y56960formed 1350 ybp, TMRCA 1200 ybpinfo
id:YF12715PRT [PT-20]new
id:YF04781PRT [PT-13]

Most of the Iranian J1 in several Northern Iranian and Caspian regions belong to our distinct and ancient FGC6064 branch and it's incredible that nobody has never been interested to investigate or write an article about the origin of Northern Iranian native J1's in terms of SNPs and NGS. It's incredible that only a Brazilian like me has been saying that for almost 10 years and I think it's like a taboo there because it involves complex geopolitics in the entire region in terms of the Ancient Iranian Peoples Y-DNA and their native identities !