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atlant91
09-09-2018, 09:51 AM
Hello!
I'm looking for people and information with the mtdna Haplogroup J2B1! I'm interested in everything what has to do with this subcloud.

Peter

Iseid0441
10-04-2019, 05:28 AM
I would love to get info as well.
I tested my father with FTDNA and got J2B1

I got many matches in Italy so interested to know the origin.

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JoeyP37
10-04-2019, 12:35 PM
Is your dad the guy on the top of that Ytree mtdna J2b1*? There are a few Middle Eastern samples there besides; the thing about the asterisk branches is that they tend to be far flung; J1c* is spread all over Europe while my J1c2b appears restricted to the British Isles and Denmark (mine is Irish), for example. According to Eupedia's mtdna J page, J2b1 is concentrated in the Near East; its J2b1e and J2b1f appear to be strongly Levantine in origin.

Ruderico
10-04-2019, 12:48 PM
My missus is mtDNA J2b1, her family is from Central Portugal, near northern Extremadura in Spain (not too far from Plasencia). The haplogroup has been found in neolithic samples in Spain

Jameslick analysis says:


1) J2b1

Defining Markers for haplogroup J2b1:
HVR2: 73G (150T) 152C 263G 295T 489C
CR: 750G 1438G 2706G 4216C 4769G 5633T 7028T 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 13708A 14766T 15257A 15326G 15452A 15812A
HVR1: 16069T 16126C 16193T

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup J2b1 (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ 73G 11719A ⇨ R ⇨ 4216C ⇨ R2'JT ⇨ 11251G 15452A 16126C ⇨ JT ⇨ 295T 489C 10398G 12612G 13708A 16069T ⇨ J ⇨ (150T) 152C 7476T 15257A ⇨ J2 ⇨ 5633T 15812A 16193T ⇨ J2b ⇨ 10172A ⇨ J2b1 ⇨ 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(19): 73G 263G 295T 489C 1438G 2706G 7028T 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 14766T 15257A 15812A 16069T 16126C
Flips(1): 15452T
Extras(13): 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A
No-Calls(1): 5633T
Untested(7): 150 152 750 4216 4769 13708 15326 16193

2) J2b1g

Defining Markers for haplogroup J2b1g:
HVR2: 73G (150T) 152C 263G 295T 489C
CR: 750G 1438G 2706G 4216C 4769G 5633T 7028T 7476T 8860G 9872G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 13708A 14766T 15257A 15326G 15452A 15812A
HVR1: 16069T 16126C 16193T

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup J2b1g (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ 73G 11719A ⇨ R ⇨ 4216C ⇨ R2'JT ⇨ 11251G 15452A 16126C ⇨ JT ⇨ 295T 489C 10398G 12612G 13708A 16069T ⇨ J ⇨ (150T) 152C 7476T 15257A ⇨ J2 ⇨ 5633T 15812A 16193T ⇨ J2b ⇨ 10172A ⇨ J2b1 ⇨ 9872G ⇨ J2b1g ⇨ 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(19): 73G 263G 295T 489C 1438G 2706G 7028T 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 14766T 15257A 15812A 16069T 16126C
Flips(1): 15452T
Extras(13): 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A
No-Calls(1): 5633T
Untested(8): 150 152 750 4216 4769 9872 13708 15326 16193

2) J2b1f

Defining Markers for haplogroup J2b1f:
HVR2: 73G (150T) 152C 263G 295T 489C
CR: 750G 1438G 2706G 4216C 4769G 5633T 7028T 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 13708A 14766T 15257A 15326G 15452A 15453C 15812A
HVR1: 16069T 16126C 16193T

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup J2b1f (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ 73G 11719A ⇨ R ⇨ 4216C ⇨ R2'JT ⇨ 11251G 15452A 16126C ⇨ JT ⇨ 295T 489C 10398G 12612G 13708A 16069T ⇨ J ⇨ (150T) 152C 7476T 15257A ⇨ J2 ⇨ 5633T 15812A 16193T ⇨ J2b ⇨ 10172A ⇨ J2b1 ⇨ 15453C ⇨ J2b1f ⇨ 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(19): 73G 263G 295T 489C 1438G 2706G 7028T 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 14766T 15257A 15812A 16069T 16126C
Flips(1): 15452T
Extras(13): 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A
No-Calls(1): 5633T
Untested(8): 150 152 750 4216 4769 13708 15326 15453 16193

2) J2b1a

Defining Markers for haplogroup J2b1a:
HVR2: 73G (150T) 152C 263G 295T 489C
CR: 750G 1438G 2706G 4216C 4769G 5633T 7028T 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 13708A 14766T 15257A 15326G 15452A 15812A
HVR1: 16069T 16126C 16193T 16278T

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup J2b1a (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ 73G 11719A ⇨ R ⇨ 4216C ⇨ R2'JT ⇨ 11251G 15452A 16126C ⇨ JT ⇨ 295T 489C 10398G 12612G 13708A 16069T ⇨ J ⇨ (150T) 152C 7476T 15257A ⇨ J2 ⇨ 5633T 15812A 16193T ⇨ J2b ⇨ 10172A ⇨ J2b1 ⇨ 16278T ⇨ J2b1a ⇨ 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(19): 73G 263G 295T 489C 1438G 2706G 7028T 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 14766T 15257A 15812A 16069T 16126C
Flips(1): 15452T
Extras(13): 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A
No-Calls(1): 5633T
Untested(8): 150 152 750 4216 4769 13708 15326 16193 16278

2) J2b1a(T16311C)

Defining Markers for haplogroup J2b1a(T16311C):
HVR2: 73G (150T) 152C 263G 295T 489C
CR: 750G 1438G 2706G 4216C 4769G 5633T 7028T 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 13708A 14766T 15257A 15326G 15452A 15812A
HVR1: 16069T 16126C 16193T 16278T 16311C

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup J2b1a(T16311C) (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ 73G 11719A ⇨ R ⇨ 4216C ⇨ R2'JT ⇨ 11251G 15452A 16126C ⇨ JT ⇨ 295T 489C 10398G 12612G 13708A 16069T ⇨ J ⇨ (150T) 152C 7476T 15257A ⇨ J2 ⇨ 5633T 15812A 16193T ⇨ J2b ⇨ 10172A ⇨ J2b1 ⇨ 16278T ⇨ J2b1a ⇨ 16311C ⇨ J2b1a(T16311C) ⇨ 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(19): 73G 263G 295T 489C 1438G 2706G 7028T 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 14766T 15257A 15812A 16069T 16126C
Flips(1): 15452T
Extras(13): 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A
No-Calls(1): 5633T
Untested(9): 150 152 750 4216 4769 13708 15326 16193 16278 16311

3) J2b1a4

Defining Markers for haplogroup J2b1a4:
HVR2: 73G (150T) 152C 263G 295T 489C
CR: 750G 1438G 2706G 4216C 4769G 5633T 7028T 7302C 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 13708A 14766T 15014C 15257A 15326G 15452A 15812A
HVR1: 16069T 16126C 16193T 16278T

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup J2b1a4 (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ 73G 11719A ⇨ R ⇨ 4216C ⇨ R2'JT ⇨ 11251G 15452A 16126C ⇨ JT ⇨ 295T 489C 10398G 12612G 13708A 16069T ⇨ J ⇨ (150T) 152C 7476T 15257A ⇨ J2 ⇨ 5633T 15812A 16193T ⇨ J2b ⇨ 10172A ⇨ J2b1 ⇨ 16278T ⇨ J2b1a ⇨ 7302C 15014C ⇨ J2b1a4 ⇨ 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(19): 73G 263G 295T 489C 1438G 2706G 7028T 7476T 8860G 10172A 10398G 11251G 11719A 12612G 14766T 15257A 15812A 16069T 16126C
Flips(1): 15452T
Extras(13): 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 8281D 8286D 11963A
No-Calls(1): 5633T
Untested(10): 150 152 750 4216 4769 7302 13708 15014 15326 16193 16278

Iseid0441
10-04-2019, 01:32 PM
Is your dad the guy on the top of that Ytree mtdna J2b1*? There are a few Middle Eastern samples there besides; the thing about the asterisk branches is that they tend to be far flung; J1c* is spread all over Europe while my J1c2b appears restricted to the British Isles and Denmark (mine is Irish), for example. According to Eupedia's mtdna J page, J2b1 is concentrated in the Near East; its J2b1e and J2b1f appear to be strongly Levantine in origin.

Yes that's my father's. I just uploaded to yfull yesterday.

Does the asterisk mean he's waiting to be assigned or he belongs to a branch yet to be mapped/discovered.

Ruderico
10-04-2019, 01:32 PM
Yes that's my father's. I just uploaded to yfull yesterday.

Does the asterisk mean he's waiting to be assigned or he belongs to a branch yet to be mapped/discovered.

The latter

Ayetooey
12-03-2019, 01:28 AM
J2b1, direct maternal line is SE English afaik. Seems mainly Italians on mtree (was also found within the recent Roman study); defo an uncommon mtdna here in NW Europe. I've analysed my British matches on 23andme, haven't found another person with this mtdna.

Ayetooey
12-03-2019, 01:34 AM
Ran myself through "Jameslick" J2b1-F? Any info on this branch?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/611586491982020628/651234719807307816/unknown.png

AbdoNumen
12-03-2019, 02:53 AM
Ran myself through "Jameslick" J2b1-F? Any info on this branch?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/611586491982020628/651234719807307816/unknown.png

Not impossible but it's more likely you're in the other branches and not J2b1f.
J2b1f is mostly Near Eastern, found among Armenians from Turkey, Syrian, Lebanese and ~60% of Jews from the eastern Caucasus.

Ayetooey
06-13-2020, 06:57 PM
Ran myself through "Jameslick" J2b1-F? Any info on this branch?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/611586491982020628/651234719807307816/unknown.png

Just brought the mtFull Sequence.

leaf
09-10-2020, 09:09 AM
J2b1, direct maternal line is SE English afaik. Seems mainly Italians on mtree (was also found within the recent Roman study); defo an uncommon mtdna here in NW Europe. I've analysed my British matches on 23andme, haven't found another person with this mtdna.

My maternal line seems rooted in East Anglia, around the Suffolk/Norfolk border. J2b1 is my maternal line mtDNA, I tested with LivingDNA, which I believe is far from being a complete test, a good starting point I suppose.
According to LDNA my recent ancestry (upto 10 generations is the claim) is 100% Great Britain and Ireland, and mostly southern England and Wales, highest percentage 32.1% from East Anglia.

I saw one migration root for J2b1 (can't remember which site it was on) which seemed to end up around Belgium/ Netherland region. So a hop across the sea or a walk across Doggerland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland) for a distant ancestor.

Ayetooey
09-11-2020, 01:40 AM
My maternal line seems rooted in East Anglia, around the Suffolk/Norfolk border. J2b1 is my maternal line mtDNA, I tested with LivingDNA, which I believe is far from being a complete test, a good starting point I suppose.
According to LDNA my recent ancestry (upto 10 generations is the claim) is 100% Great Britain and Ireland, and mostly southern England and Wales, highest percentage 32.1% from East Anglia.

I saw one migration root for J2b1 (can't remember which site it was on) which seemed to end up around Belgium/ Netherland region. So a hop across the sea or a walk across Doggerland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland) for a distant ancestor.

I tested with FTDNA and ended up being J2b1a in the end, not standard J2b1. According to eupedia, J2b1 is very very rare in Europe and J2b1a is the standard clade found in NW europe, part of the reason I was confused for a long time because myself and my mother both received J2b1 not J2b1a results on 23andme. Maybe you'll end up with J2b1a with a more advanced test from FTDNA.

leaf
09-11-2020, 07:55 AM
I suspect my designation would change with a more advanced test, or might do so as more ancient DNA is analysed and further branches are discovered. It's interesting to see that you are now J2b1a, which is quite different from the Jameslick prediction and similar but a subclade of your previous test result. I would like to do further testing but the cost is too high for me at the moment.

My results with Jaemslick are the same as the LivingDNA result. J2b1 was most likely but with 3 mismatches, all the other clades had a greater number of mismatches or extras. But after seeing your result, this doesn't mean that my J2b1 result is correct. Interesting...

Here's my jameslick best fit estimate.
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