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tamandua
09-17-2018, 07:38 PM
Well, for what it's worth - nothing, this is no doubt a statistical artifact - this is how DNAland assessed our family.
1: 99% Native American + 1.2% ambiguous Northeast Asian
2: 96% Native American + 3.7% Mid-Turkic
3: 96% Native American + 4.4% Mid-Turkic
4: 95% Native American + 4.5% Mid-Turkic
The Amerindian percentages are similar, a couple of points higher, 97-98%, at FTDNA, but the "other" is SE Europe (Italy/Greece/Balkans). I suppose "Mid-Turkic" wasn't an option.
The Y is Q-FGC47595 as is Anzick.
See the Q tree at Yfull.
Afshar
09-17-2018, 08:01 PM
What is your origin
tamandua
09-20-2018, 08:00 PM
Huetar
JerryS.
09-20-2018, 08:21 PM
there are some people in America that believe the Cherokee Indian tribe originated in Israel or somewhere close by there. I am not one of those who believe that, just sayin'.
digital_noise
09-20-2018, 09:49 PM
Interesting. I have been to Limon a number of times (well, Puerto Viejo actually).
The only native population I have encountered is the Bribri
Afshar
09-21-2018, 07:17 AM
Huetar
Did you upload to gedmatch? Might be more useful
homunculus
09-23-2018, 07:46 AM
Isn't the turkic thing probably just stemming from the Central Asian origin of both the peoples? Doubt that any Israelic tribes have anything to do with it.
tamandua
09-24-2018, 04:03 PM
Did you upload to gedmatch? Might be more useful
Yes, all the files are in GedMatch. Amerindian percentages are more or less the same using various calculators. The "other" tends to be split into many, many little traces - all statistically meaningless and without pattern. Of course there isn't much "other" to work with.
tamandua
09-24-2018, 04:05 PM
Isn't the turkic thing probably just stemming from the Central Asian origin of both the peoples? Doubt that any Israelic tribes have anything to do with it. Or westward migration from the common Siberian/Beringian origin. But this is just fantasy.
Afshar
09-24-2018, 07:48 PM
Or westward migration from the common Siberian/Beringian origin. But this is just fantasy.
Is that the reason you opened this topic in ydna section?
tamandua
09-27-2018, 05:44 PM
Is that the reason you opened this topic in ydna section?
Sorry. It was because the other posts regarding "Turkic" connections were in this section, and actually mentioned Anzick as I remember. As noted in my original post "The Y is Q-FGC47595 as is Anzick." so I idly wondered if there was a relationship between having very paleo Y-DNA and matching up to central Asians autosomally. I'll go idle elsewhere.
razyn
10-16-2020, 01:00 PM
It seems that any thread pertaining to Amerindian genetic origins becomes populated by crazed partisans of something or other, and the thread is shut down in the interest of more civil discussions. But somewhere in the YDNA, haplogroup Q subforum, this new paper ought to be noted. Follow the trail from this post, that brings some otherwise widely-dispersed subtopics together: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?8066-Genetic-Genealogy-amp-Ancient-DNA-in-the-News-(DISCUSSION-ONLY)&p=709426&viewfull=1#post709426
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