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JonikW
09-17-2018, 09:05 PM
Hi all. I've posted here about how I've tracked down my dream relative on my mother's Welsh paternal line and desperately want to find out their haplogroup. All my immediate male relatives have passed away.
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?13779-R1b-L11-Where-from&p=490544#post490544
According to Morley they're L11+ and U106-. The good news is, the family are happy to do a Yseq panel test. What would you go for in my position? Thanks for your time. I feel in alien territory posting an R1b thread; as if a bronze age farmer is going to tell my humble I1 stone age self to "Get off my land." :)

rms2
09-17-2018, 09:39 PM
As you know, I gave my opinion beginning with this post (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?13779-R1b-L11-Where-from&p=490888&viewfull=1#post490888).

Like I said, given the frequency of L21 in Wales, the overall frequency of L11, and the fact that we know he is U106-, his odds of being L21+ are about 5 out of 6 or ~83%.

That's not 100%, but it's not bad. I think YSeq's L21 panel is a pretty good bet.

JonikW
09-17-2018, 09:59 PM
As you know, I gave my opinion beginning with this post (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?13779-R1b-L11-Where-from&p=490888&viewfull=1#post490888).

Like I said, given the frequency of L21 in Wales, the overall frequency of L11, and the fact that we know he is U106-, his odds of being L21+ are about 5 out of 6 or ~83%.

That's not 100%, but it's not bad. I think YSeq's L21 panel is a pretty good bet.

I think I'll risk it and test again if necessary using the retained sample. Somehow I always felt my grandpa would be the quintessential Y L21 Celt. There was something about him. We'll see!

JonikW
09-17-2018, 11:26 PM
As you know, I gave my opinion beginning with this post (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?13779-R1b-L11-Where-from&p=490888&viewfull=1#post490888).

Like I said, given the frequency of L21 in Wales, the overall frequency of L11, and the fact that we know he is U106-, his odds of being L21+ are about 5 out of 6 or ~83%.

That's not 100%, but it's not bad. I think YSeq's L21 panel is a pretty good bet.

One L21 superclade orientation panel ordered. I'm feeling lucky, but we'll see. The main thing as far as I'm concerned is to get that unexpected and precious sample in.

rms2
09-18-2018, 12:08 AM
One L21 superclade orientation panel ordered. I'm feeling lucky, but we'll see. The main thing as far as I'm concerned is to get that unexpected and precious sample in.

I hope that gamble pays off; otherwise I will feel like I gave you bad advice. But, anyway, the odds are in your favor.

Wish I could get hold of a male relative in my maternal grandfather’s Y chromosome line willing to test. I found some male relatives in that line, but not one of them is willing to test, even though I offered to pay for it.

I congratulate you on yours and wish you success.

JonikW
09-18-2018, 12:38 AM
I hope that gamble pays off; otherwise I will feel like I gave you bad advice. But, anyway, the odds are in your favor.

Wish I could get hold of a male relative in my maternal grandfather’s Y chromosome line willing to test. I found some male relatives in that line, but not one of them is willing to test, even though I offered to pay for it.

I congratulate you on yours and wish you success.

Thanks! Your advice was sound and of course I won't hold it against you if it doesn't work out because I'd give my right arm to know that haplogroup. I'm with what you once wrote on the importance of those Y lines. It means a lot to me.

ArmandoR1b
09-24-2018, 05:58 PM
Hi all. I've posted here about how I've tracked down my dream relative on my mother's Welsh paternal line and desperately want to find out their haplogroup. All my immediate male relatives have passed away.
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?13779-R1b-L11-Where-from&p=490544#post490544
According to Morley they're L11+ and U106-. The good news is, the family are happy to do a Yseq panel test. What would you go for in my position? Thanks for your time. I feel in alien territory posting an R1b thread; as if a bronze age farmer is going to tell my humble I1 stone age self to "Get off my land." :)

Nevermind. I now see where you stated the results are from myHeritage.