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tipirneni
09-26-2018, 03:46 AM
Who is closer to other Indian population, specifically South Indians populations like Kamma ? I find only Sikh Jats showing up on GED.

Kamma
https://i.imgur.com/nuxwfcN.jpg

I ran GED Genesis Software Version Aug 26 2018 01:59:55
on Gill Pansota Sikh Jat family

Gill (HRP0349's sister)

Largest segment 200SNP/2cM = 3.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 117.2 cM (3.268 Pct)

49 shared segments found for this comparison.

628649 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.787 Pct SNPs are full identical

on HRP0374

Largest segment >2cM = 4.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 100.7 cM (2.8 Pct)

40 shared segments >2cM found for this comparison.

625475 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.8 Pct SNPs are full identical

Painted difference
https://i.imgur.com/fmOt9W0.png

Gill
Largest segment 200SNp/2cM = 4.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 99.1 cM (2.764 Pct)

41 shared segments found for this comparison.

622554 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.824 Pct SNPs are full identical

HRP0402's daughter, HRP0349's niece

Largest segment = 4.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 85.2 cM (2.374 Pct)

33 shared segments found for this comparison.

626938 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.474 Pct SNPs are full identical



nMONTE using these ids, I get following
1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
HRP0349 HRP0349-Sister HRP0349-Niece HRP0393 HRP0370
3.021606 3.102854 3.846882 4.070541 5.854716

"distance%=2.9559"

Suresh_T

HRP0349,60.1666666666667
HRP0349-Sister,39.8333333333333

When added Nai it goes down a little but not much.

"distance%=2.7703"

Suresh_T

HRP0349,62.8333333333333
Punjabi_Nai,37.1666666666667


For comparison, with others

The distance comes down significantly when Midi & Khana_GF_Sister are added.

"distance%=1.2308"

Suresh_T

Midi,40.1666666666667
ssamlal_brother_VS,29.5
Khana_GF_Sister,16.6666666666667
ssamlal,13.6666666666667

MonkeyDLuffy
09-26-2018, 04:35 AM
Bro, Gill Pansota guy is our beloved mcninja, muslim jatt. He's scores different from other jatts, even more aasi shifted than me because of some non jatt ancestor.

Punjabi Nai is my gf, she is literally carbon copy of relic population from swat, very high in Iran N, actually one of the highest Iran N here. So if you have even tiny bit of Iran N, you'll get superficial percentage of Punjabi Nai in nmonte.

Your batch of pics is always entertaining though.

tipirneni
09-26-2018, 04:59 AM
Bro, Gill Pansota guy is our beloved mcninja, muslim jatt. He's scores different from other jatts, even more aasi shifted than me because of some non jatt ancestor.

Punjabi Nai is my gf, she is literally carbon copy of relic population from swat, very high in Iran N, actually one of the highest Iran N here. So if you have even tiny bit of Iran N, you'll get superficial percentage of Punjabi Nai in nmonte.

Your batch of pics is always entertaining though.

But I am getting hits from other Jats like Manhas Sandhu Dehal Bains etc.. That family is triple the number of regular hits on GED Genesis

Manhas Largest segment = 4.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 78.8 cM (2.197 Pct)

31 shared segments found for this comparison.

608546 SNPs used for this comparison.

Sandhu Largest segment = 6.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 56.8 cM (1.585 Pct)

19 shared segments found for this comparison.

396707 SNPs used for this comparison.


Dehal Largest segment 200SNP/2cM = 5.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 31.1 cM (0.866 Pct)
10 shared segments found for this comparison.

Bains Largest segment = 4.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 33.2 cM (0.925 Pct)

12 shared segments found for this comparison.

294884 SNPs used for this comparison.

Sapporo
09-26-2018, 05:11 AM
McNinja has at least partial non Jatt ancestry. Also, Pansota is either a Muslim exclusive Jatt clan (supposedly from near Hoshiarpur) or at least overwhelmingly so. Well, Gondal is exclusive to Muslim Jatts from West Punjab. Bhatti is sometimes used by Muslim Jatts but otherwise typically used by Rajputs.

tipirneni
09-26-2018, 05:16 AM
McNinja has at least partial non Jatt ancestry. Also, Pansota is a Muslim exclusive Jatt clan (supposedly from near Hoshiarpur) as is Gondal, which is exclusive to West Punjab. Bhatti is sometimes used by Muslim Jatts but otherwise typically used by Rajputs.

But I am getting hits from other Jats like Manhas Sandhu Dehal Bains etc.. That family is triple the number of regular hits on GED Genesis

Manhas Largest segment = 4.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 78.8 cM (2.197 Pct)

31 shared segments found for this comparison.

608546 SNPs used for this comparison.

Sandhu Largest segment = 6.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 56.8 cM (1.585 Pct)

19 shared segments found for this comparison.

396707 SNPs used for this comparison.


Dehal Largest segment 200SNP/2cM = 5.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 31.1 cM (0.866 Pct)
10 shared segments found for this comparison.

Bains Largest segment = 4.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 33.2 cM (0.925 Pct)

12 shared segments found for this comparison.

294884 SNPs used for this comparison.

Sapporo
09-26-2018, 05:22 AM
Manhas? That’s not even Jatt. It’s Rajput exclusively. Jatt Sikhs use typically Rajput titles or names on occasion (Rana/Chohan) but that’s not one of them. As for those gedmatch shared segments, those seem to be too small to suggest a shared origin for such a large ethnoreligious group.