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newm1988
10-02-2018, 04:54 AM
I'm in the J1c1a mtDNA haplogroup and was wondering if anyone knows if any subgroups of J1c1a have been identified or are likely to be identified anytime soon.

palamede
10-08-2018, 07:40 PM
I'm in the J1c1a mtDNA haplogroup and was wondering if anyone knows if any subgroups of J1c1a have been identified or are likely to be identified anytime soon.

Suivant Eupedia : J1c1a : found in the British Isles and Finland;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J_(mtDNA)

J1c1a is page 45 of https://www.familytreedna.com/public/J-mtDNA?iframe=mtresults

deadly77
10-09-2018, 10:18 PM
You can find the current version of the mtDNA PhyloTree here - http://www.phylotree.org/ van Oven M, Kayser M. 2009. Updated comprehensive phylogenetic tree of global human mitochondrial DNA variation. Hum Mutat 30(2):E386-E394. http://www.phylotree.org.

Current version is Build 17, 18 Feb 2016. It doesn't look like any subclades established downstream of J1c1a.

You can also check one of Ian Logan's mtDNA pages here which will list some of the mtDNA sequences submitted to Genbank here: http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/j1c1_genbank_sequences.htm

newm1988
10-14-2018, 02:57 AM
I just uploaded to the GenBank. I didn't realize that it was so difficult to get mtDNA results considered for "official" branching as compared to say Big Y data.

Is anyone aware of when a new PhyloTree is likely to come out? It seems like it's been a while since we got a new one.

deadly77
10-14-2018, 09:12 AM
I believe it I read somewhere that three individuals with the same mutation were required to add a new branch to Phylotree.

Not sure when the new build of Phylotree is going to come out. Looking at the history of previous builds, the time between new releases seems to be increasing: http://www.phylotree.org/previous_builds.htm - I'm guessing that's due to more people testing and along with that more folks testing mitochondrial DNA - more samples, more data to categorize and organize. Probably also in the early builds there were a few more times backbone branches needed to be corrected more rapidly as the tree was less well known.

About a day after I first posted, FamilyTreeDNA made their mtDNA haplotree public https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mt-dna-haplotree/J and there's a blog post here https://dna-explained.com/2018/10/10/family-tree-dnas-mitochondrial-haplotree/

JoeyP37
10-14-2018, 02:30 PM
J1c, the branch we both belong to, originated either in Anatolia or the Balkans. The first farmers began the spread all over Europe and it was continued by the Indo-European invaders. My sub-branch, J1c2b, appears to be linked to the Insular Celts; at any rate that is where mine comes from.