View Full Version : Does Wales have more R1b than Ireland?

10-05-2018, 06:47 PM
According to this study, Wales is at 92% and Ireland 85%. The sample size for Wales is very low however, and I'm wondering where it would end up if a proper study was conducted.


10-13-2018, 08:18 PM
It's a good question, but sample size will definitely skew things. It would be an interesting study though. Perhaps certain pockets of Wales have higher population numbers of L21 or so?

10-13-2018, 09:12 PM
Hasn't this Balaresque et al (2010) paper been largely superseded, for the Isles formerly known as British, by aDNA (especially Olalde et al, 2018)? Better evidence suggests that the Neolithic population of the Isles had been mostly replaced in the Bronze Age (which was not the focus of the Balaresque et al study).

10-14-2018, 04:23 AM
The newer evidence is that R1b largely came to the area in the Bronze Age (so contrary to the argument in the paper on where it came from), but that doesn't necessarily supersede the sampling and percentages.

I don't think Wales has been adequately sampled.

10-14-2018, 07:03 PM
I am aware of two different geneticists who have done extensive sampling in Wales, but neither has been published.

10-14-2018, 08:54 PM
Are there plans to publish anytime soon?

10-15-2018, 06:11 PM
Are there plans to publish anytime soon?

Unfortunately I don't know the answer to that question.