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newtoboard
11-14-2013, 07:15 PM
Is it related to European C?

parasar
11-21-2013, 04:49 AM
Is it related to European C?

Likely no.
If I recall correctly, that C had east asiatic 'genetic' features.

Jean M
11-21-2013, 10:41 AM
The discovery of C-V20 was only published in 2012, so the Andronovo sample S07 could not be tested for it. It would be interesting if it were the ancestor of C-V20, but at the moment we are in the dark, unless anyone recognises his haplotype. S07's STR results are in table 3: http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/adnastr.shtml

When first published C-V20 was named C7 (it is now C6) and here's what its discoverers had to say:


Further studies are needed to establish whether C7 chromosomes are the relics of an ancient European gene pool or the signal of a recent geographical spread from Asia.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0049170

ISOGG says:


C6-V20 is a recently recognized group most common in Europe, and developing information suggests it may more properly form a subgroup with C1.

Jean M
11-21-2013, 11:05 AM
If I recall correctly, that C had east asiatic 'genetic' features.

That is correct. S07 had results from rs1545397, rs16891982 and rs2031526 suggesting an Asian ancestry, despite the mtDNA U4. But that would not prevent him or a paternal relative among the Scythians from being the ancestor of the European C6. We just have to wait and see on this one. There are a number of ways that the ancestor of C6 could have arrived in Europe.

everest59
12-12-2013, 11:27 PM
Is it related to haplogroup C5 by any chance? We have a Tajik individual on this board who is C5*. Some Uygur individuals have also been found to belong to haplogroup C5. Has C6 been found in Central Asia to date?

parasar
12-12-2013, 11:50 PM
Is it related to haplogroup C5 by any chance? We have a Tajik individual on this board who is C5*. Some Uygur individuals have also been found to belong to haplogroup C5. Has C6 been found in Central Asia to date?

C5 is the most common form of C in India.
The Andronovo as I remember was reported xC3 but was also xC5.

everest59
12-13-2013, 12:07 AM
Are you sure the Andronovo sample was also reported as xC5? I thought the sample was only xC3.

parasar
12-13-2013, 01:06 AM
Are you sure the Andronovo sample was also reported as xC5? I thought the sample was only xC3.

To clarify, it was reported xC3 only, but I had figured out that it was xC5 too (I will go back and try to find why as I recall investigating this issue).