Eumolpide
01-09-2019, 10:32 AM
Half a year ago I sent in a specimen of my mother's DNA to LivingDNA. As her mother's (my maternal grandmother) ancestors hail from Schleswig Holstein (Wohlde, Dannewerk, Hütten, Probstei, Selent) and her father's from Western Farther Pomerania (E/NE of Stargard) when I received the results I was mainly expecting to learn something a) about the the Germanic/Slavic share (which the tests are rather good in distinguishing) and b) about the respective subdivision in the Germanic cluster between British Isles, Scandinavian and continental Germanic (wherein the tests are rather bad for lack of specific drift). The results were:
28241
which baffled me because of the lower-than-expected Balto-Slavic share and foremost for the fact that Baltic rather than Slavic turned up. Other German Pomeranian results I looked for show a similar pattern of favouring Baltic over Slavic.
Now on to other tests:
Myheritage says:
Europe 100,0%
Northern and Western Europe 86,5
>North and West European 72,0%
>Scandinavian 14,5%
Eastern Europe 13,5%
>Balt 8,1%
>East European 5,4%
and Gedmatch, Eurogenes EUTest:
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.07
2 ATLANTIC 23.39
3 EAST_EURO 18.73
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 16.02
5 WEST_MED 7.99
6 WEST_ASIAN 5.34
7 WEST_AFRICAN 0.26
8 EAST_MED 0.21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 87.8% NO + 12.2% Erzya 2.68
2 86.8% NO + 13.2% East_Russian 2.85
3 88.3% NO + 11.7% North_Russian 2.96
4 86.1% NO + 13.9% West_Russian 3.01
Interesting also the sub-structure, the high share of East_Europe vs. South_Baltic in the Gedmatch which is otherwise only reached in Russia, maybe a hint to a link to Forest Baltic tribes? Also, so far my mother has no matches among West Slavs but a few amoung East Slavs on Myheritage. It could all be statistic noise but certainly warrants further investigation.
Presence of Balts west of the Vistula, chiefly concerning place names in Pomerelia, has been a discussed subject in older German publications. The case of the Persante, flowing through Kolberg (Kolobrzeg), is mentioned but has been considered an isolated outlier in a sea of Slavic place names.
Another issue that was moot but imho can be resolved through DNA is the question of near-complete replacement of Slavs in much of Eastern Holstein following the Wendish crusade. Historical sources mention that most fled to Mecklenburg and otherwise were, to a large extent, resettled around Lütjenburg. And indeed, e.g. for the Probstei region a lack of Eastern ancestry confirms the historic account.
28241
which baffled me because of the lower-than-expected Balto-Slavic share and foremost for the fact that Baltic rather than Slavic turned up. Other German Pomeranian results I looked for show a similar pattern of favouring Baltic over Slavic.
Now on to other tests:
Myheritage says:
Europe 100,0%
Northern and Western Europe 86,5
>North and West European 72,0%
>Scandinavian 14,5%
Eastern Europe 13,5%
>Balt 8,1%
>East European 5,4%
and Gedmatch, Eurogenes EUTest:
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.07
2 ATLANTIC 23.39
3 EAST_EURO 18.73
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 16.02
5 WEST_MED 7.99
6 WEST_ASIAN 5.34
7 WEST_AFRICAN 0.26
8 EAST_MED 0.21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 87.8% NO + 12.2% Erzya 2.68
2 86.8% NO + 13.2% East_Russian 2.85
3 88.3% NO + 11.7% North_Russian 2.96
4 86.1% NO + 13.9% West_Russian 3.01
Interesting also the sub-structure, the high share of East_Europe vs. South_Baltic in the Gedmatch which is otherwise only reached in Russia, maybe a hint to a link to Forest Baltic tribes? Also, so far my mother has no matches among West Slavs but a few amoung East Slavs on Myheritage. It could all be statistic noise but certainly warrants further investigation.
Presence of Balts west of the Vistula, chiefly concerning place names in Pomerelia, has been a discussed subject in older German publications. The case of the Persante, flowing through Kolberg (Kolobrzeg), is mentioned but has been considered an isolated outlier in a sea of Slavic place names.
Another issue that was moot but imho can be resolved through DNA is the question of near-complete replacement of Slavs in much of Eastern Holstein following the Wendish crusade. Historical sources mention that most fled to Mecklenburg and otherwise were, to a large extent, resettled around Lütjenburg. And indeed, e.g. for the Probstei region a lack of Eastern ancestry confirms the historic account.