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Finn
04-06-2019, 01:06 PM
In the Journal of Optometry (2008), Luuk Franssen Joris E. Coppens, Thomas J.T.P. van den Berg did the following attempt.

Purpose
To present a new iris pigmentation classification system based on comparison of iris pigmentation to a set of 24 standard eye photographs, with the aim of gaining on accuracy and on applicability for retinal straylight studies.

Methods
A reference set of 24 eye photographs was established by ranking the photographs from least (number 1) to most (number 24) iris pigmentation. Reproducibility was tested by grading a sample of 67 eye photographs with this reference set.

Results
The overall variation between observers was 1.46 on a scale of 0 to 25.

Conclusion
The new method is promising to be more accurate than existing iris color classification systems in clinical situations where objective colorimetry-based systems are not available. The method may be useful to assess iris translucency and fundus reflectance as sources of variation in retinal straylight.

Okay what's your opinion? Is this accurat? And for fun: what's your place in the spectrum, mine is on place 20 ('chestnut'), yours?

http://www.journalofoptometry.org/en-grading-iris-color-with-an-articulo-S1888429608700608#imagen-3

article (http://www.journalofoptometry.org/en-grading-iris-color-with-an-articulo-S1888429608700608)

Ruderico
04-06-2019, 01:16 PM
Mine are a bit hard to pinpoint because they kind of change colour depending on lightening. They look like this (https://i.postimg.cc/SscYpj3F/olho.jpg) but under poor lightening they just appear regular light brown. My mother is perhaps 18, father maybe 21 or 22. I got lighter eyes than either of them, but both have mothers with lighter eyes aswell (14/15), which I probably partially inherited.

The missus is a 7 or 8.

firemonkey
04-06-2019, 01:24 PM
I would say I'm a 15 or 16.

JFWinstone
04-06-2019, 01:46 PM
I think my dad is 15 and mum 17. Mine looks different depending on the light, sometimes they look blue and sometimes green. My left eye has a segment of hazel. Think closest looking to mine is probably 9. My maternal grandmother and paternal grandfather had light eyes. According to 23andme I likely have brown eyes :heh:

firemonkey
04-06-2019, 02:00 PM
23andMe says I most likely have brown or hazel eyes .

Finn
04-06-2019, 02:07 PM
Some names to the numbers ;)

https://www.mupload.nl/img/707tq31n.37.25.png

Pylsteen
04-06-2019, 02:16 PM
I think I am 21-22. Maybe even 20 in bright sunlight. "chocolate"/"russet".

Ruderico
04-06-2019, 02:20 PM
I guess the amber-cognac-honey continuum fits me well, but I have a hard time giving it a number :\

Finn
04-06-2019, 02:22 PM
Mine are a bit hard to pinpoint because they kind of change colour depending on lightening. They look like this (https://i.postimg.cc/SscYpj3F/olho.jpg) but under poor lightening they just appear regular light brown. My mother is perhaps 18, father maybe 21 or 22. I got lighter eyes than either of them, but both have mothers with lighter eyes aswell (14/15), which I probably partially inherited.

The missus is a 7 or 8.

Yours look honey!

(not so obvious in the spectrum of the article indeed....)

Finn
04-06-2019, 02:23 PM
I would say I'm a 15 or 16.

15/16 are quite hazel indeed!

BackToTheForests
04-06-2019, 02:45 PM
I'm having a bit of difficulty picking my own color, something between 1 and 2 but, depending on conditions, sometimes even lighter than that.

My father is about 18, my mother a 4.

My wife somewhere between 13 and 14, the kids are closest to 2's.

leonardo
04-06-2019, 02:46 PM
I would say my eyes have changed over the years. In the days of my youth I would say I was #7. Now, it is more like #11.

Trelvern
04-06-2019, 03:44 PM
the very first numbers (light blue)
first gedmatch prediction
second real eye



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JMcB
04-06-2019, 04:17 PM
I would say mine are about 20

Finn
04-06-2019, 04:20 PM
the very first numbers (light blue)
first gedmatch prediction
second real eye



2967929680

That's pretty good Trevern.
I saw they improved the Gedmatch prediction, I always got light grey eyes, but I did it again and....it improves!

https://www.mupload.nl/img/twvlbht.08.50.png
and real:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/9hmyk6.jpg

DNA Land gives my position in graphic, brown but almost kind of in the middle between brown and blue.....
https://www.mupload.nl/img/xa8j0uiw.09.58.png

(Light or medium) Brown eyes and blond hair is a kind of family feature my grandfather had it, father and I! :)

Finn
04-06-2019, 04:26 PM
OOOPS that was my mother's prediction....would have been better, this is my prediction:

https://www.mupload.nl/img/kguurfpkj8r.23.58.png

What's this yellow, light green or?

What creates the distance to my real color?

Finn
04-06-2019, 04:30 PM
I would say mine are about 20

shake hands JMcB!

Finn
04-06-2019, 05:26 PM
What is my be insightful is this, this are pictures of eyes, with % blue, intermediate and brown.

https://www.mupload.nl/img/zz92e56v48.18.45.png

I choose one that comes IMO close to my eyes, and comes also close to the DNA land prediction:

55% brown, 31% blue and 14% intermediate.

https://www.mupload.nl/img/9m4u6ju.19.52.png

My eyes
https://www.mupload.nl/img/6o2yj8s.jpg

Trelvern
04-06-2019, 05:32 PM
That's pretty good Trevern.
I saw they improved the Gedmatch prediction, I always got light grey eyes, but I did it again and....it improves!

https://www.mupload.nl/img/twvlbht.08.50.png
and real:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/9hmyk6.jpg

DNA Land gives my position in graphic, brown but almost kind of in the middle between brown and blue.....
https://www.mupload.nl/img/xa8j0uiw.09.58.png

(Light or medium) Brown eyes and blond hair is a kind of family feature my grandfather had it, father and I! :)


I think that my very low rate of melanin facilitates the prediction (pale skin, blond hair when I was young: all the punishment ...) now I do protect myself from the very very scorching sun of Brittany (not really Australia but...)
29681:)

Finn
04-06-2019, 05:54 PM
I think that my very low rate of melanin facilitates the prediction (pale skin, blond hair when I was young: all the punishment ...) now I do protect myself from the very very scorching sun of Brittany (not really Australia but...)
29681:)

Yes we like to go to your homeland (mostly a bit more southern then Brittany).... almost obliged with a woman born in Lille ;) As kid I had white kind of hair...
When I take my family in account we are kind of mixture between light features/blond with some darkish/brown (my grandma was very high blond with very light greyblue eyes, my mom is kind of darkish, as kid she was dark auburn and so fort). I guess in my region about 80% is light featured. On vacation this means kind of luck for me no need to keep much in the shadow ;)

Trelvern
04-06-2019, 06:56 PM
Yes we like to go to your homeland (mostly a bit more southern then Brittany).... almost obliged with a woman born in Lille ;) As kid I had white kind of hair...
When I take my family in account we are kind of mixture between light features/blond with some darkish/brown (my grandma was very high blond with very light greyblue eyes, my mom is kind of darkish, as kid she was dark auburn and so fort). I guess in my region about 80% is light featured. I guess on vacation this means kind of luck for me no need to keep much in the shadow ;)

Lille is in Flanders ... the flat country
I remember those road signs that, in Belgium, announced the approach of a city named Rijsel! Which was a bit confusing for a "southerner" like me.

rms2
04-06-2019, 07:16 PM
I think I'm a 3 or 4 on that optometry chart in the original post. I have blue eyes like my mother. My dad had brown eyes but carried the recessive variant for blue eyes.

Here's what DNA Land says for me:

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Finn
04-06-2019, 07:43 PM
Lille is in Flanders ... the flat country
I remember those road signs that, in Belgium, announced the approach of a city named Rijsel! Which was a bit confusing for a "southerner" like me.

My wife hates the word Rijssel....I guess Belgians use that word, the people from the Lille area don't use Rijssel (?). My father in law is a proud Frenchman (he talks constantly French with our little baby...legacy ;) and Lille (place of birth of Charles de Gaulle!) gives me the impression of the most Northern French stronghold. More nothwestwards of Lille there is indeed the French Flanders zone, there they did speak until century ago or so partly a Dutch influenced dialect (Flamandes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE63EEOcC_g)) .But isn't that the heartland of ffoucart,I guess he is far more knowledgeable on this item then I am. :focus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsFzVzknxBc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQOKJSSGyQQ

Verity
04-06-2019, 07:51 PM
I am number 8.

ernekar
04-06-2019, 10:26 PM
13-16

Stephen1986
04-06-2019, 11:31 PM
I'm not really sure what my eyes would be, maybe a slightly darker version of 7.

leonardo
04-07-2019, 12:19 AM
I think I'm a 3 or 4 on that optometry chart in the original post. I have blue eyes like my mother. My dad had brown eyes but carried the recessive variant for blue eyes.

Here's what DNA Land says for me:

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I am slightly to the right of the apex for blue eyes on DNA Land.

Finn
04-07-2019, 08:01 AM
I think I am 21-22. Maybe even 20 in bright sunlight. "chocolate"/"russet".

Hi Pylsteen 21-22 is that due to your partly Indonesian roots? I'm curios if there are more members with "chocolate" , "russet" or "nut" (22,23,24, or 97% brown).

I guess for someone with only a NW European (in casu only North Dutch) background I have the idea that my eyes (20) are almost the 'darkest' brown variant....but may be I'm wrong.....

Nive1526
04-07-2019, 09:03 AM
I am a 14 or 15, but with a thicker limbal ring, which partly covers the greyish outer edge.

Pylsteen
04-07-2019, 10:17 AM
Hi Pylsteen 21-22 is that due to your partly Indonesian roots? I'm curios if there are more members with "chocolate" , "russet" or "nut" (22,23,24, or 97% brown).

I guess for someone with only a NW European (in casu only North Dutch) background I have the idea that my eyes (20) are almost the 'darkest' brown variant....but may be I'm wrong.....

When I look at the position of OCA2 and HERC2 genes that seem important for eye colour, I see many of the SNPs are somewhere around position 27/28million at chrom 15. On that part, I have Jewish matches from my father's side, indeed my Jewish gg-grandmother had dark brown eyes. My mother has brown-hazel eyes, from her father who was from the islands south of Rotterdam. I think I got those brown alleles from her side too. My other grandparents have blue eyes which my sister inherited.

Finn
04-07-2019, 10:29 AM
When I look at the position of OCA2 and HERC2 genes that seem important for eye colour, I see many of the SNPs are somewhere around position 27/28million at chrom 15. On that part, I have Jewish matches from my father's side, indeed my Jewish gg-grandmother had dark brown eyes. My mother has brown-hazel eyes, from her father who was from the islands south of Rotterdam. I think I got those brown alleles from her side too. My other grandparents have blue eyes which my sister inherited.

mmmm:confused:
I'm pretty Baltic on chromosome 15:
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Would mean some bluegreyish influence? Would mean the grandma of fathers side.....

Pylsteen
04-07-2019, 10:49 AM
mmmm:confused:
I'm pretty Baltic on chromosome 15:
29695
Would mean some bluegreyish influence? Would mean the grandma of fathers side.....

What does the chromosome painter tell you for ca. 28m on chrom 15? With me that part is quite "West-Asian" in the K15. It is a bit of a pile-up region, I think. You only need that part of the chromosome, the rest can be as Baltic as possible.
And of course more genes from other parts of the genome likely play a role.

Finn
04-07-2019, 10:51 AM
When I look at the position of OCA2 and HERC2 genes that seem important for eye colour, I see many of the SNPs are somewhere around position 27/28million at chrom 15. On that part, I have Jewish matches from my father's side, indeed my Jewish gg-grandmother had dark brown eyes. My mother has brown-hazel eyes, from her father who was from the islands south of Rotterdam. I think I got those brown alleles from her side too. My other grandparents have blue eyes which my sister inherited.

And an add: this makes sense my eyes are about 55% brown, 31% blue and 14% intermediate.
My father has light brown eyes, mother brown eyes, grandfather dad light brown, grandma dad very light grey-blue, grandma mom brown and grandfather mom blue.

Finn
04-07-2019, 11:07 AM
What does the chromosome painter tell you for ca. 28m on chrom 15? With me that part is quite "West-Asian" in the K15. It is a bit of a pile-up region, I think. You only need that part of the chromosome, the rest can be as Baltic as possible.

Thanks for the advice Pyslteen, appreciated,

Chrom 15 is around 28 full yellow! That's East Euro.....I say the Yamna??
https://www.mupload.nl/img/s269sz.00.17.png

Wiki:


The genetic basis of a number of physical features of the Yamnaya people were ascertained by the ancient DNA studies conducted by Haak et al. (2015), Wilde et al. (2014) and Mathieson et al. (2015): they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly brown-eyed, dark-haired and had a skin color that was moderately light, though significantly darker than that of the average modern European. Their skin tone had a high propensity to tan and sunburn was minimal.[26][4] Despite their pastoral lifestyle, there was little evidence of lactase persistence.[27][28]


ROFLOL: the Aryans!! because they had obviously brown eyes....

What have other about 28 on chromosome 15? curios!!!

Nive1526
04-07-2019, 11:32 AM
Really depends on the calculator.
Mainly Atlantic with a bit North_Sea and West_Med on K15.
About 50% East Med and 50% Northen Euro components in EUtest.

Finn
04-07-2019, 11:35 AM
My father has some kind of sudden Siberian/Southeastasian peak on chromosome 15/ 28.....and much North Sea.
https://www.mupload.nl/img/w9hy0kv.21.32.png

My mother has on that spot a East Euro/ Baltic/North Sea coloring:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/yswjy3hnua6dn.31.45.png

Others? Recognizable?

Pylsteen
04-07-2019, 11:39 AM
@ Finn, so you have "Baltic brown" eyes lol. Well, it is probaby more complex (as always) than that...

firemonkey
04-07-2019, 11:43 AM
Marker Tested
Genotype*
Additional Information
rs12913832
Gene: Near OCA2
Marker: rs12913832
A
Typical copy from one of your parents
G
Variant copy from your other parent

Finn
04-07-2019, 12:01 PM
@ Finn, so you have "Baltic brown" eyes lol. Well, it is probaby more complex (as always) than that...

Not really Baltic, a 'bit' more eastern.....here peaks east Euro:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/hqwhgf50t.59.20.png

Finn
04-07-2019, 12:26 PM
Marker Tested
Genotype*
Additional Information
rs12913832
Gene: Near OCA2
Marker: rs12913832
A
Typical copy from one of your parents
G
Variant copy from your other parent

Have you got info about chrome 15, place 28 firemonkey?

Finn
04-07-2019, 12:33 PM
Marker Tested
Genotype*
Additional Information
rs12913832
Gene: Near OCA2
Marker: rs12913832
A
Typical copy from one of your parents
G
Variant copy from your other parent

The scientific background:
https://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(07)00040-7

Calamus
04-07-2019, 12:48 PM
I am somewhere between 13 and 14. But, I think closer to 14 than 13.

Amerijoe
04-07-2019, 04:35 PM
I think I'm a 3 or 4 on that optometry chart in the original post. I have blue eyes like my mother. My dad had brown eyes but carried the recessive variant for blue eyes.

Here's what DNA Land says for me:

29682

Richard: Put me down in the red hair/blue eyed category, R151C and rs12913832GG produced said rare combination. Being around redheads with blue eyes seemed common to me, didn’t know we were carney material. How many other members from the group have this combo? Cheers to us my rare friend. :)

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firemonkey
04-07-2019, 04:37 PM
Have you got info about chrome 15, place 28 firemonkey?


I'm not even sure how to get that .

Finn
04-07-2019, 04:46 PM
I'm not even sure how to get that .

On Gedmatch choose > Admixture (heritage) > Chromsome painting> select Eurogenes> K15>Your kitnumber> result (see chromosome 15, around 28) > picture this! :)

firemonkey
04-07-2019, 05:08 PM
On Gedmatch choose > Admixture (heritage) > Chromsome painting> select Eurogenes> K15>Your kitnumber> result (see chromosome 15, around 28) > picture this! :)



I hope I've done this right. What does it mean?


29699

Trelvern
04-07-2019, 05:33 PM
Delete

Trelvern
04-07-2019, 05:52 PM
29712

purple is supposed to be siberian?
i am the man who came in from the cold?

Trelvern
04-07-2019, 06:11 PM
I hope I've done this right. What does it mean?


29699

this kind of green is linked to the Red Sea on the legend

Finn
04-07-2019, 06:49 PM
29712

purple is supposed to be siberian?
i am the man who came in from the cold?

From the Finistère to the Finistère:biggrin1:

Finn
04-07-2019, 06:52 PM
I hope I've done this right. What does it mean?


29699

I admit red sea doesn't make you any wiser hmmmm sorry Firemonkey!

An add it's most probably a kind of Neolithic farmer component (high chance some brown eyes????)
May be this is all to fare fetched.

firemonkey
04-07-2019, 07:38 PM
May be this is all to fare fetched.

Without some of our ancestors stretching the boundaries we'd still be living in caves .

mildlycurly
04-11-2019, 01:42 PM
2. My eyes are grey.

aafusc2988
04-11-2019, 03:55 PM
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Yeah I don't think GEDmatch got mine right.. I'm more of a 7/8 from the original post. Don't think I've ever seen anyone with an eye like the one the predictor shows for me, unless we're talking about the white walkers from Game of Thrones.

Finn
04-11-2019, 05:50 PM
29765

Yeah I don't think GEDmatch got mine right.. I'm more of a 7/8 from the original post. Don't think I've ever seen anyone with an eye like the one the predictor shows for me, unless we're talking about the white walkers from Game of Thrones.

:rofl::rofl:

rms2
04-11-2019, 11:20 PM
29765

Yeah I don't think GEDmatch got mine right.. I'm more of a 7/8 from the original post. Don't think I've ever seen anyone with an eye like the one the predictor shows for me, unless we're talking about the white walkers from Game of Thrones.

My maternal grandmother had eyes like that and natural golden blond hair that was still that way when she passed away at age 81. She didn't cut it either, so it was long, but she wore it braided and pinned up.

Update: Out of curiosity I went to Gedmatch and ran my own eye color prediction thingy. Here it is:

29778

JerryS.
04-12-2019, 01:14 AM
maybe 15/16 in bright light because I can see an olive drab color with the brown. regular lighting they are just brown.

digital_noise
04-12-2019, 06:24 PM
I'm probably closest to # 20

alan
04-12-2019, 06:39 PM
Some names to the numbers ;)

https://www.mupload.nl/img/707tq31n.37.25.png

Pretty sure mine are gunmetal blue. My wife's eyes are two different colours. One would be ice blue and the other varies by season between baby blue and sea green. My children I think have my gunmetal blue shade. I think my shade is somewhere between my mother's slightly lighter blue and my dad's blue which was a sort of opaque dark slate blue. The latter isnt really any of the choices there. Its the colour many European new babies have before their eyes decide to go blue or brown.

vettor
04-12-2019, 07:04 PM
mine is closest to number 13

but all testing companies state I should have blue eyes ( 70% chance of Blue, 29% chance of green, and 1% chance of hazel ) ............but I have green eyes

Finn
04-12-2019, 07:15 PM
Interesting info, from Gunter et al (2018)



The genomic data further allowed us to study the physical appearance of SHGs (S8 Text); for instance, they show a combination of eye color varying from blue to light brown and light skin pigmentation. This is strikingly different from the WHGs—who have been suggested to have the specific combination of blue eyes and dark skin [18,20,21,23] and EHGs—who have been suggested to be brown-eyed and light-skinned [19,20]

JerryS.
04-13-2019, 02:44 PM
my blonde haired (dishwater blonde?) sister has eyes so brown you can barely tell where the pupil is.

Amerijoe
04-14-2019, 02:50 AM
Ancestrydna, FTDNA, MyHeritage

29809

23andMe

29810

Actual color more like 23 with a diffused yellow tint.

aafusc2988
04-18-2019, 02:32 PM
I still think these blues are way too blue... or light or something. I have never seen someone with eyes like that.

Amerijoe
04-18-2019, 03:13 PM
I still think these blues are way too blue... or light or something. I have never seen someone with eyes like that.

The intensity of color will vary with lighting conditions. These photos look like continuous full spectrum lighting was used. If one side of my face is shaded and the other in full sun, the coloration difference is very noticeable. More knowledgeable people can delve into the physics involved. Here is some shots that will open your eyes so to speak, enjoy.

https://www.lightstalking.com/amazing-close-up-photographs-of-the-human-eye-and-how-to-make-them-yourself/

rms2
04-21-2019, 01:01 AM
I still think these blues are way too blue... or light or something. I have never seen someone with eyes like that.

Well, my maternal grandmother had very light blue eyes that really stood out. It seems your experience is somewhat limited.

When I was younger I used to get compliments on my eyes from time to time from various people, just out of the blue, so to speak, at the counter at McDonald's, for example.

Finn
04-21-2019, 05:49 AM
The intensity of color will vary with lighting conditions. These photos look like continuous full spectrum lighting was used. If one side of my face is shaded and the other in full sun, the coloration difference is very noticeable. More knowledgeable people can delve into the physics involved. Here is some shots that will open your eyes so to speak, enjoy.

https://www.lightstalking.com/amazing-close-up-photographs-of-the-human-eye-and-how-to-make-them-yourself/

Amazing photo's they look almost surreal....

msmarjoribanks
04-21-2019, 01:37 PM
mine is closest to number 13

but all testing companies state I should have blue eyes ( 70% chance of Blue, 29% chance of green, and 1% chance of hazel ) ............but I have green eyes

Of the numbered chart mine are closest to 13 too, but it's not quite right. Forest green is the closest match on Finn's chart with names.

However, all the testing companies say I should have blue eyes too.

Nas
05-20-2019, 02:11 PM
My eyes are gunmetal blue.My Flemish mother and maternal grandmother had dark brown eyes.

MikeWhalen
05-20-2019, 05:15 PM
I think mine are a 5 or 7 on the op post

here is my real eye, taken for DMXX's project I think
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JerryS.
05-20-2019, 06:27 PM
the best pic I was able to take of my own eye. the color isn't very good but brown with a slight green ring around it. sort of like #18 I think when I look at them in the mirror.

Finn
05-26-2019, 06:30 PM
My father and I are an exception to the rule...we 'ought' to have blue eyes but have clearly chestnut brown eyes:confused:

WHY?

In Katie L. Hart e.a. Improved eye- and skin-color prediction based on 8 SNPs (2013) the researchers presented this model:

https://www.mupload.nl/img/xpca5r.21.14.png

Father and I have:

rs12913832:GG (99% blue eyes)


and the other mentioned SNP's:
rs16891982:GG (light skin)

rs12203592:CT (slightly lighter hair and eye color, less tanning ability)

rs12896399:GT (light hair color, GG is brown)

How come???:confused:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3694299/

Finn
05-26-2019, 07:14 PM
Some explanation:



Eight individuals with dark eyes and the genotype rs12913832:GG were also sequenced. We could not find any, single variant or variation patterns that could explain why these individuals did not have blue eyes. Our dataset of eight rs12913832:GG individuals with dark eyes is very small. A larger data set is required to find causative variants or variation patterns. We did not find any OCA2 nonsynonymous variations in any of the eight individuals. This was expected as a nonsynonymous variation would most likely decrease the functionality of the OCA2 protein. We hypothesize that the unexpected dark eye color of these rs12913832:GG individuals is a product of induced OCA2 expression. Somehow, the inhibitory effect of the rs12913832:G allele is reversed. This may include epigenetic regulation of the OCA2 promotor. Different methylation patterns in blue and dark eyed individuals could explain the pigmentary difference. However, future studies are needed to clarify the regulation of OCA2 expression in more detail.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4947861/

rms2
05-26-2019, 07:41 PM
Well, my maternal grandmother had very light blue eyes that really stood out. It seems your experience is somewhat limited.

When I was younger I used to get compliments on my eyes from time to time from various people, just out of the blue, so to speak, at the counter at McDonald's, for example.

Funny thing: just a few days ago a student who is not one of mine happened to be in my homeroom (visiting a friend of hers before the bell rang). As she was leaving she said, "Hi, sir. Like your eye color."

I was surprised. Comments like that were fairly regular when I was a young man, but before then I hadn't gotten one in a long time.

MikeWhalen
05-26-2019, 07:53 PM
heheheh
cutie has the hots for teacher
:)

M

rms2
05-26-2019, 07:57 PM
heheheh
cutie has the hots for teacher
:)

M

Probably not, unless she has a thing for old, wrinkly, gray-haired farts.

CannabisErectusHibernius
05-26-2019, 08:44 PM
I have chestnut, which seems pretty rare for a dude who is 100 percent of Irish descent. My pheno is otherwise very Irish. Pale, freckled, and reddish brown hair that shines in the sun. I wonder if my dark eyes are an MNE trait. Any body have a list of eye color calls from Northern Bell Beaker genomes?

rms2
05-26-2019, 09:11 PM
My dad, who had brown eyes, used to say that people with brown eyes are full of sh*t, but that people with blue eyes are a quart low. ;)

Finn
05-27-2019, 10:25 AM
I have chestnut, which seems pretty rare for a dude who is 100 percent of Irish descent. My pheno is otherwise very Irish. Pale, freckled, and reddish brown hair that shines in the sun. I wonder if my dark eyes are an MNE trait. Any body have a list of eye color calls from Northern Bell Beaker genomes?

Somehow I have the idea that chestnut eyes are a kind of hazel eyes, but in stead of extra eumalanin there is extra pheomelanin? , the last one is a yellow/redbrown pigment..... just a brainwave....I will elaborate it futher later on.

JerryS.
05-27-2019, 04:53 PM
Somehow I have the idea that chestnut eyes are a kind of hazel eyes, but in stead of extra eumalanin there is extra pheomelanin? , the last one is a yellow/redbrown pigment..... just a brainwave....I will elaborate it futher later on.

my youngest sister says she has hazel eyes but the color is light brown like # 14/15 on that 1st page chart. I always figured hazel to be a bluish greenish grey color for eyes. maybe it depends upon the way the light hits them.

Finn
05-27-2019, 06:59 PM
I have chestnut, which seems pretty rare for a dude who is 100 percent of Irish descent. My pheno is otherwise very Irish. Pale, freckled, and reddish brown hair that shines in the sun. I wonder if my dark eyes are an MNE trait. Any body have a list of eye color calls from Northern Bell Beaker genomes?



my youngest sister says she has hazel eyes but the color is light brown like # 14/15 on that 1st page chart. I always figured hazel to be a bluish greenish grey color for eyes. maybe it depends upon the way the light hits them.

Indeed it's not hazel.


I guess this description of chestnut eyes comes close:


Chestnut eyes are a warm medium-brown with a hint of reddish or orange tones.

This is the range in brown eyed pigments:

https://www.mupload.nl/img/stzabza8wk.05.00.png

On the one left edge we have heavy eumalanin 'nut brown' eyes on the other right edge we have heavy pheomelanin 'amber' eyes.

The chestnut eyes are somewhat in the middle (leaning towards the right) in the red brown/ orange brown range.

Otherwise I also have pretty much pheomelanin (skin and hair) could be also the case for CannabisErectusHibernius.......

Milkyway
10-06-2019, 03:51 PM
Here's Martin's eye color scale.

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Here's another scale. I'm not sure how accurate is this considering that each person's eye color is unique (much like our fingerprints).

https://image.myanimelist.net/ui/gDEE1QGHMmMAOJRb4Q-ehqF7ckhcVAUyzogC6VP5vLSBq6_mR380QaGHbJMtFeh8_38yT E95zw75boCtJUc2Wpq-kmac8VPM2FAUIaVOj8K5tKhIaFcDIIl5B3sr3wuE

Robert1
10-07-2019, 03:40 AM
I suppose from the original post I'm a 2 but I don't like their shades of blue. Finn's guide was much closer, from it my baby blues are baby blue.

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Danka
10-21-2019, 12:42 PM
Which class on Martin scale ?

https://i.imgur.com/Wrw9AIq.jpg

Finn
10-21-2019, 12:58 PM
Which class on Martin scale ?

https://i.imgur.com/Wrw9AIq.jpg


Difficult to say, especially with that spot on light!

A few weeks ago I went to the opticien in his flash light my eyes were pictured amber.....

This chart, the last one in the red line area may be, see:
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?16826-eye-color-spectrum&p=559150&viewfull=1#post559150

Danka
10-21-2019, 01:25 PM
Difficult to say, especially with that spot on light!




Do you mean…..bad quality of pic ?

Finn
10-21-2019, 01:54 PM
Do you mean…..bad quality of pic ?

No it makes a difference if an eye is in the center of light or not.....

JoeyP37
10-21-2019, 04:52 PM
What about me? Brown eyes, more milk chocolate than dark, I think.34036

Milkyway
10-21-2019, 11:26 PM
Which class on Martin scale ?

https://i.imgur.com/Wrw9AIq.jpg

Here's a better quality pic. I'd say you're a 8.

https://i.postimg.cc/XJ8hK1R7/martin-schulz.jpg

Milkyway
10-21-2019, 11:27 PM
What about me? Brown eyes, more milk chocolate than dark, I think.34036

Possibly a 14 (source (https://i.postimg.cc/XJ8hK1R7/martin-schulz.jpg)).

JerryS.
10-22-2019, 12:08 AM
Which class on Martin scale ?

https://i.imgur.com/Wrw9AIq.jpg

if the inner brown ring was bigger so the outer green ring was only slight (basically a reverse of what is shown) they would look like mine.

Danka
10-22-2019, 10:46 AM
Here's a better quality pic. I'd say you're a 8.

https://i.postimg.cc/XJ8hK1R7/martin-schulz.jpg

Practically the classic "mixed" eye color by old anthropology standards...

Milkyway
10-23-2019, 09:51 AM
Practically the classic "mixed" eye color by old anthropology standards...

Yes, the ones generically called "hazel".