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Jan_Noack
06-20-2019, 07:11 AM
edited- posted in 'HV haplogroups in Europe'
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10563-HV-haplogroups-in-Europe&p=575730#post575730

ph2ter
02-07-2020, 07:26 AM
I'v got the results yesterday.
My group is HV0-T195C!

Don't know anything about this haplogroup yet!

Exciting!

Dorkymon
02-07-2020, 10:06 AM
I'v got the results yesterday.
My group is HV0-T195C!

Don't know anything about this haplogroup yet!

Exciting!

It seems to be either very popular among Italians or they are disproportionately tested compared to the rest.

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/HV0-a/

Kristiina
02-07-2020, 10:37 AM
It is a very Mediterranean haplotype. I have taken note of these ancient samples:

Cardial Neolithic Cueva de Chaves NE Catalonia CHA001_MT 5308–5057 BCE HV0+195,
Ballynahatty MN/LN HV0+195
Scotland Neolithic Raschoille Cave Oban c. 3600 BCE I3137 HVO+195,
Iberia Chalcolithic SE Sima del Ángel Córdoba Andalusia I8157 2900–2500 BCE HV0+195
BB Britain South Sixpenny Handley Dorset I5379 HV0+195
Iberia Bronze Age NE Can Roqueta II Barcelona Catalonia I1312_d 2000–1400 BCE HV0+195
Iberia Bronze Age SE Cabezo Redondo Alicante Valencia I3488 1700–1500 BCE HV0+195
Nuragic BA S10552.E1.L1 Perdasdefogu Sardinia 1384-1213 calBCE HV0+195
Iberia Iron Age/ Iberian culture Hort d'en Grimau Barcelona Catalonia I12879 728–397 cal BCE HV0+195
Greek Iberia Iron Age NE / Empúries1 Girona Catalonia I8211 500–450 HV0+195
Roman Iberia outlier/ Empúries2 Girona Catalonia I8338 100–200 CE HV0+195
Late Roman Iberia SE Plaza Einstein Granada Andalusia I3982 200-400 Cal CE HV0+195
Longobard Hungary Szólád Balaton SZ38 590 AD HV0+195
Medieval Muslim Iberia SE Palau Castell de Betxí Castellón Valencia I12514 1020–1155 cal CE HV0+195
Medieval England East Smithfield London LE112mt 1348-1350 AD HV0+195

ph2ter
02-07-2020, 11:35 AM
It seems to be either very popular among Italians or they are disproportionately tested compared to the rest.

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/HV0-a/
According to my current knowledge, it is of WHG origin (as is also my Y-DNA).

I am a WHG man.

Isidro
02-07-2020, 02:05 PM
I am also HV0-195C!
Nice group for sure, maybe they were the original Bell Beakeress. :)
According to my current knowledge, it is of WHG origin (as is also my Y-DNA).

I am a WHG man.

ph2ter
02-07-2020, 02:31 PM
I am also HV0-195C!
Nice group for sure, maybe they were the original Bell Beakeress. :)
Yes, our great-great...mothers invented the bell-pottery...

ph2ter
02-10-2020, 09:15 AM
Heat maps from FTDNA data:
HV0 T195C!

https://i.imgur.com/gea9ky4.png

HV0
https://i.imgur.com/R3nx1d8.png

tchekitchek
02-10-2020, 09:49 AM
It's funny there is a dot exactly where my HV0 mother was born, in Belgium, and it seems linked to Germany?

ph2ter
02-10-2020, 10:07 AM
It's funny there is a dot exactly where my HV0 mother was born, in Belgium, and it seems linked to Germany?
Some trends are visible on these maps, although the sample distribution is probably skewed towards the Western countries. But these are not the all samples. Some users did not leave their geographic informations.

I don't like when some matches don't have any information available. What's the point then if you cannot compare your results with the others?

ph2ter
04-10-2020, 07:06 PM
Map of mtDNA HV0 ancient samples:

https://i.imgur.com/q893H04.png

ph2ter
12-10-2020, 02:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2WmWGA9.png

tchekitchek
12-10-2020, 02:32 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2WmWGA9.png
Interesting pattern, I'm right in the cluster

ph2ter
07-19-2021, 07:37 AM
HV0 clades statistical TMRCA histogram:
https://i.imgur.com/nIF7Cn3.png

3millionHaplogroup
09-20-2021, 03:00 PM
I would like to weigh in on this discussion on MtDNA HV0-- I am HV0 T195c!

This is what I understand to be fact on the MtDNA HV0 group:

The group carries more than 4 back mutations.
There are less than 3 million women in the world with this haplogroup including the subclades.
Part of this Haplogroup cannot be mapped in the human Genome Project due to the T195c
The Haplogroup (blood type) is RH-, most are AB- (do not forget you can be RH+ dominant but still carry the RH- allele in the blood)
The Mt DNA Origins are North Africa/Near East.
Israel scientists have identified that HV0 T195b originates from Israel (2020).

Tracking of this Haplogroup and all its subclades are being done without consent or informed consent by Bayesian Evolutionary Analysis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_inference)Sampling Trees (BEAST (https://beast.community/) 1 and 2)

Researching the back mutations appears to be a primary motivating factor of a select group of scientists by the BEAST TREES. The only other comparable rare MtDNA haplogroup next to HV0) is Haplogroup x -- here is hunting research brief outlines: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0144391

It is important to note that Haplogroup V and Haplogroup HV0 mirror each other, almost one in the same, meaning which came first the chicken or the egg.

What my belief is at this point (after I have searched for 10 years looking for genetic matches and found NONE in Canada, but a direct genetic line to MEXICO full match on HVR1 and HVR2- A single woman) is that:

Haplogroup HV0 T195c! arrived and settled in with the Cherokee a couple of thousand years ago with the ancient copper trade-route with the middle east. They have found ancient Hebrew tablets with the Cherokee and the trade route by BOAT has been confirmed spanning back a couple of thousand years

Mythology and God (opinion based without all papers to backing this section up yet):
I believe all HV0 mtDNA are ancient Hebrew from the Levite Tribe, because of the back mutations, they can withstand higher amounts of Radiation due to the back mutations-like an auto correct button

*I am HV0 T195C! with Cherokee markers, my female line has been here for hundreds of years, and with the marker of Cherokee I believe thousands.

ph2ter
09-21-2021, 10:39 PM
mtDNA haplogrop is not in correlation with Rh factor or blood type.
HV is the ancestral clade to the haplogroups H and V.
HV0 is the ancestral clade to the haplogroups V.
It is almoust impossible that HV0 T195c! settled in with the Cherokee couple of thousand years ago, because this haplo originated about 4100 years ago somewhere in Europe.
Your belief that all HV0 are ancient Hebrew from the Levite Tribe is completely unfounded and all that funny stuff about radiation and backmutations.

3millionHaplogroup
09-27-2021, 06:52 AM
well Phter.... I cited scientific papers, and yes, the HVO t195 was in the Americas they were/are a Mediterranean haplogroup, that is simply a fact (as sourced via BEAST, including the back mutations).


I always enjoy taking a beating on forums by individuals who do zero homework, cite zero papers, while I cite them..... here we gooo...
:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=qpvJP7WAv1EC&pg=PA171&lpg=PA171&dq=ancient+trade+route+copper+cherokee+middle+east&source=bl&ots=PSesbxpRda&sig=ACfU3U30Iv04fxgBv3uhxIYbnfQOGbt4dg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiW1ryTxJ7zAhXBqZ4KHRz5AQgQ6AF6BAg1EAM#v =onepage&q=ancient%20trade%20route%20copper%20cherokee%20mi ddle%20east&f=false (Old World Roots of the Cherokee: How DNA, Ancient Alphabets and Religion)

Also, I would have never known about the Origins of Haplogroup HV0 t195c! but, in a chance meeting with a military contractor who presented to a group requesting some funding, he indicated quite extensively the research on the connection to Egypt and the origins of that haplogroup. Did you know that military contractors use genealogists to track family lines? As yourself why.

For your reading pleasure:
Rare human mitochondrial HV lineages spread from the Near East and Caucasus (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-48596-1)

Counting the Founders: The Matrilineal Genetic Ancestry of the Jewish Diaspora (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0002062)

Also, in conclusion you never read the BEAST tracking or the back mutation factor.

I also stated there was no paperwork on the Levite factor, that is speculative. However I do believe that endurance, radiation levels through time contribute to environmental mutations, which are almost always forward, when they back mutate, that is a rejection of environmental factors (reasonable conclusion to draw). Since I am in that tiny percentile on earth via that originating factor of the mtDNA group and that I am a spiritual entity; drawing the conclusion on radiation exposure is relevant because it is simply fact that back mutations can withstand higher levels of radiation. That is where god meets science.

capsian
09-28-2021, 09:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2WmWGA9.png

Hi ph2ter do u have maps distribution mtdna V and thnx

ph2ter
09-28-2021, 09:47 PM
Hi ph2ter do u have maps distribution mtdna V and thnx
mtDNA V heatmap (FTDNA kits):

https://i.imgur.com/ZLPaWX0.png

capsian
09-29-2021, 12:50 AM
mtDNA V heatmap (FTDNA kits):

https://i.imgur.com/ZLPaWX0.png

thank u

ph2ter
12-02-2021, 08:01 AM
From HV0-T195C! member's data of the HV0 FTDNA mtDNA group I made the UMAP plot with HVR1 and HVR2 mutations as input. I don't know how the plot corresponds with yfull subclades because the kit numbers from these two sets cannot be correlated. But on the plot the users group together according to the geographic proximity.

https://i.imgur.com/1det2im.png