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josh w.
07-19-2019, 05:01 PM
A couple of days ago the NY Times reported on a fairly new dig about 5 miles from the Temple Mount. An early Neolithic community was discovered, age around 9000 BC. It appears to be as old as Jericho and just as advanced. The development of civilization in the southern Levant appears to be under-appreciated.

artemv
07-19-2019, 11:36 PM
I've noticed that in some news articles they mention they found burials. Neolithic people in Levant burried their dead at home. So there is a chance we will get their DNA one day. It would be much better to get DNA of several people from the same home and get some info about family structure.

I thought that territory of Old Jerusalem (Shiloah/Silwan) was inhabited during all the periods. That is because the Gihon Spring, a major source of water in a very dry region. But what has been found is a huge settlement 6,7 km from the spring.
So probably the climate 9 ky ago was not as dry as now. I wonder, if there could be another spring or even a river near Motsa?

josh w.
07-20-2019, 04:54 PM
I've noticed that in some news articles they mention they found burials. Neolithic people in Levant burried their dead at home. So there is a chance we will get their DNA one day. It would be much better to get DNA of several people from the same home and get some info about family structure.

I thought that territory of Old Jerusalem (Shiloah/Silwan) was inhabited during all the priods. That is because the Gihon Spring, a major source of water in a very dry region. But what has been found is a huge settlement 6,7 km from the spring.
So probably the climate 9 ky ago was not as dry as now. I wonder, if there could be another spring or even a river near Motsa?

The significance of the community is that it was advanced. Evidence of urban planning and religion as well as agriculture

JMcB
07-20-2019, 06:13 PM
If you’re interested here’s and article on the dig from The Times of Israel

… Vast, developed 9,000-year-old settlement found near Jerusalem

Remains of Neolithic site near Motza, the largest ever discovered in Israel, show mix of agriculture, hunting, animal husbandry — a society at its peak, say archaeologists

By AMANDA BORSCHEL-DAN 16 July 2019, 1:07 pm

https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2019/07/12.%D7%97%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%AA-%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%A7%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%94-%D7%9C%D7%A6%D7%93-%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%97%D7%9D-%D7%A6%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9D-%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%91-%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%9E%D7%9F-%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%AA--1024x640.jpg

https://www.timesofisrael.com/vast-and-developed-9000-year-old-settlement-uncovered-near-jerusalem/

There’s a nice video at the bottom, too.

Note: the tomb (and the spear head shown) are from a later era, circa 4000 ybp.

josh w.
07-21-2019, 06:32 PM
If you’re interested here’s and article on the dig from The Times of Israel

… Vast, developed 9,000-year-old settlement found near Jerusalem

Remains of Neolithic site near Motza, the largest ever discovered in Israel, show mix of agriculture, hunting, animal husbandry — a society at its peak, say archaeologists

By AMANDA BORSCHEL-DAN 16 July 2019, 1:07 pm

https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2019/07/12.%D7%97%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%AA-%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%A7%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%94-%D7%9C%D7%A6%D7%93-%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%97%D7%9D-%D7%A6%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9D-%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%91-%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%9E%D7%9F-%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%AA--1024x640.jpg

https://www.timesofisrael.com/vast-and-developed-9000-year-old-settlement-uncovered-near-jerusalem/

There’s a nice video at the bottom, too.

Note: the tomb (and the spear head shown) are from a later era, circa 4000 ybp.

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