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Crow
08-08-2019, 07:06 PM
I got R0 as mtdna on 23andme. I see it's pretty much non existent in Italy. Is it possible they made a mistake? Or maybe they even didn't test properly. I don't know. I see people with H get even a subclade. I just got R0. It's disappointing. It would be cool if I really were R0, but I'm afraid it's not the case, and the test failed.

Ruderico
08-08-2019, 07:10 PM
Try using this and see what it tells you
https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

Crow
08-08-2019, 07:14 PM
Try using this and see what it tells you
https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

Found 4301 markers at 2413 positions covering 14.6% of mtDNA.

1) R0a'b

Defining Markers for haplogroup R0a'b:
HVR2: (58C) 64T 263G
CR: 750G 1438G 2442C 2706G 4769G 7028T 8860G 14766T 15326G
HVR1: 16362C

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup R0a'b (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ (58C) 64T 2442C 16362C ⇨ R0a'b ⇨ 65I 191D 299I 459D 1719A 2074I 2156D 2405D 3307D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D 10101C 14482T 15613G

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(7): 64T 263G 1438G 2706G 7028T 8860G 16362C
Mismatches(0): (58T)
Extras(18): 65I 191D 299I 459D 1719A 2074I 2156D 2405D 3307D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D 10101C 14482T 15613G
No-Calls(1): 2442C
Untested(4): 750 4769 14766 15326

2) R0b

Defining Markers for haplogroup R0b:
HVR2: (58C) 64T 93G 152C 263G
CR: 750G 1438G 1719A 2442C 2706G 4769G 4924A 5205C 7028T 8772C 8860G 9055A 10101C 10775A 11764G 14766T 15326G 15613G 15628G
HVR1: 16301T 16362C

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup R0b (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ (58C) 64T 2442C 16362C ⇨ R0a'b ⇨ 93G 152C 1719A 4924A 5205C 8772C 9055A 10101C 10775A 11764G 15613G 15628G 16301T ⇨ R0b ⇨ 65I 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 3307D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D 14482T

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(10): 64T 263G 1438G 1719A 2706G 7028T 8860G 10101C 15613G 16362C
Mismatches(3): (58T) 93A 4924G 16301C
Extras(15): 65I 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 3307D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D 14482T
No-Calls(1): 2442C
Untested(11): 152 750 4769 5205 8772 9055 10775 11764 14766 15326 15628

3) HV0f

Defining Markers for haplogroup HV0f:
HVR2: 195C 263G
CR: 750G 1438G 2706G 4769G 7028T 8706G 8860G 15326G
HVR1: 16298C

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup HV0f (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 72C 16298C ⇨ HV0 ⇨ 195C ⇨ HV0(T195C) ⇨ 72T 8706G ⇨ HV0f ⇨ 64T 65I 191D 299I 459D 1719A 2074I 2156D 2405D 3307D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D 10101C 14482T 15613G 16362C

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(6): 72T 263G 1438G 2706G 7028T 8860G
Extras(20): 64T 65I 191D 299I 459D 1719A 2074I 2156D 2405D 3307D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D 10101C 14482T 15613G 16362C
Untested(6): 195 750 4769 8706 15326 16298




Is this accurate? Does R0 make really sense or the raw data isn't enough? (sorry for the noob questions)

Crow
08-08-2019, 07:24 PM
Ok, I just realised it says imperfect match for all three the results. So this means no mtdna makes sense for me? lol

JoeyP37
08-08-2019, 11:27 PM
I get imperfect match for my subclade because I have a flip (a back-mutation of one of the markers) at 15452, where there is supposed to A I have a T. But as a counterweight to that, the other 18 J1c2b defining mutations I have in full, so that is my assigned clade. Flips aren't rare, either, most people will have one. I would say you have R0a'b as your clade, but there is also the possibility that you are HV0f, as there are no mismatches there. In a sample of 99 Italians, 5.5% had mtdna HV0, as per Wikipedia. If you are uncertain, I would advise purchasing a mtDNA interpretation panel from YFull; it's only 25 dollars.