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My top 5

mtDNA

8x HV

7x H

6x K1a

3x U5a1a1, T2g, T2b, T2, J1d, J1c2, H13a2, H1

2x W6, U8b, U5a1, U3b, U1a1, T2e, HV4, H1c, H1a1, H11a, H10a1

YDNA

14x R1b1b2a

7x J2

5x E1b1b1c1a

4x R1a1a, J2a1b*

3x R1b1b2a1a1*, L2*, E1b1b1a2*, E1b1b1a

It's very easy if you follow the procedure explained here (https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1axmHWQJVFnQxdnrLi1gMea0f31UT08DALGXr0Gv17O k&pli=1).

Here are mine.

mtDNA

6x - U7

5x - H*

4x - T2g

3x - HV, J1b1b1

2x - K1a1b1a, T2b, U2e1, X1a1, C4, F1a, H1, H7, HV1b2, J1c2

The "2x" line is oddly reminiscent of something in the genetic world... Will have to think about what that is.

Y-DNA

7x - R2a

5x - R1b1b2a, E1b1b1a2*

4x - J1*

3x - R1a1a, T

2x - J2*, R1b1b2a1a, R1b1b2a1a2d

Pretty interesting that the most common Y-DNA was R2a. Unsure if it's an odd coincidence or reflection of something.

NK19191

12-31-2013, 03:49 PM

I have 87 Relatives.

mtDNA:

7x H1

7x HV

4x H13a1a1a

2x H15a, H1a1, H1b, H2a1, H5a1, H6a1b2, H7, J2a1a1b, K1a1b1a, T2a, U3b, U5b2b

Y DNA

6x R1a1a

5x R2

4x T. J1e

3x R1b1b2a1a2f*

2x E1b1b1a, E1b1b1c1a, G2a, J2, J2a1a, J2a1j, J2b2*, N1c1, R1b1b2a, R1b1b2a1a, R1b1b2a1a2d,

Solothurn

12-31-2013, 04:35 PM

Of 1,449 relatives.

mtDNA

101 H

89 H1

44 T2b

40 H3

32 H5a1

639 (44%) are H

Y-DNA

119 R1b1b2a1a2f*

90 I1*

63 R1b1b2a1a

40 R1a1a

58 R1b1b2a1a1*

ADW_1981

12-31-2013, 05:03 PM

If I recall, about 50% of my Y lines, maybe even more were downstream of R1b-L11.

Most common are:

1.R1b-U106

2.R1b-L21

3.I1

My father recently got a R1* match. Not sure if this is R1a* or R1b (xP25)

Tomasso29

12-31-2013, 05:37 PM

I'm only gonna do the Y-DNA since the mtDNA is way too messy to organize for the time being.

Mine

R1b1b2a - 23.7%

J2a - 17.1% (J2a1b for most part).

T - 10.5%

J1 - 9.2%

E1b1b1c1a - 9.2%

R1b1b2a1a2f - 7.9% (This was surprising).

G2a - 5.3%

I1 - 3.9%

I2b1 - 2.6%

J1c3 - 2.6%

Other - 7.9% (G1, Q1b, R2a, R1b1, I2a2, and R1b1b2a1a1)

Uncle

R1b1b2a - 23.8%

J2a - 19% (J2a1b for most part).

E1b1b1c1a - 15.9%

T - 11.1%

G2a - 7.9%

R1b1b2a1a2f - 6.4%

J1 - 4.8%

R1a1a - 3.2%

Other - 7.9% (I2a2b, J1c3, L2a, R2a, and R1b1b2a1a1d1)

Cousin

E1b1b1c1a - 21.1%

R1b1b2a - 19.7%

J2a - 18.3% (J2a1b for most part).

J1 - 9.9%

T - 8.5%

G2a - 7%

E1b1b1a - 2.9%

J1c3 - 2.8%

R2a - 2.8%

Other - 7% (I1, I2a, L2, R1a1a, and R1b1b2a1a1d1)

Here are mine.

mtDNA

6x - U7

5x - H*

4x - T2g

3x - HV, J1b1b1

2x - K1a1b1a, T2b, U2e1, X1a1, C4, F1a, H1, H7, HV1b2, J1c2

The "2x" line is oddly reminiscent of something in the genetic world... Will have to think about what that is.

Y-DNA

7x - R2a

5x - R1b1b2a, E1b1b1a2*

4x - J1*

3x - R1a1a, T

2x - J2*, R1b1b2a1a, R1b1b2a1a2d

Pretty interesting that the most common Y-DNA was R2a. Unsure if it's an odd coincidence or reflection of something.

The R2a may very well be Iranian Jews, if you browse the topics in 23andMe under the R2 subjects, you'll notice that quite a bit of them have commented there.

Silesian

12-31-2013, 06:34 PM

R-220R1a-80+R1b-140-62%

I-67Î1-27+I2-40-18%

G-16-4%

E-15-4%

J-15-4%

H1-8-241

U 1-8- 107

K1+2-47

HV-26

Ok, time for some fancy graphs :P

http://i.minus.com/ibwAMnpI9LIcuu.png

Stellaritic

12-31-2013, 08:45 PM

On FTDNA:

Y haplogroups:

E-M35.1 X1

J-M267 X5

G-M406 X1

MtDNA haplogroups

V X4

L2a1 X1

TB1 X1

H X1

On Gedmatch: Y chromosome haplogroups

J1e x4

G x2

R-M269 x2

R1b1b2a1a2f2 x2

R1b1b2a1a1 X1

R-L21 DF63 X1

R1b1b2a1a2d*

I2b1a x1

J2a4b x1

MtDNA haplogroups:

H1 X2

V X2

L2a1 X2

T2B X1

T2e X1

T2c1 X1

J1 X1

J1c3c X1

J1c1b1 X1

U5b2a1a1a X1

U5a2 X1

U2e1 X1

R0a2c x1

K1a1b1e X1

K2b X1

Humanist

12-31-2013, 10:39 PM

Y-DNA (N=58)

40% -- R1b

22% -- J2

10% -- J1

7% -- G2a

5% -- E1b

5% -- T

3% -- R1a

3% -- R2

2% -- I2b1

2% -- Q1b

Mine...

mtDNA

6 x H, H1

5 x T2b, K1a

4 x H5, U3b

3 x J1b1a, HV0, H6a1b, L4b2a, X2

2 x B2, H1e1, H7, HV, I1b, J1c, J2a1a, K1a1b1a, L3h1a2a, T1a1, T2

Y-DNA

10 x I1*

8 x J2

7 x R1a1a

6 x G2a5

5 x J1e

Not sure how to explain the I1*. The only thing that comes to mind is some kind of genetic drift.

Me:

mtDNA:

H 73

H1 72

T2b 49

H3 29

V 26

H5a1 26

H7 18

U5a1b1 17

T1a1 17

U5a1a1 16

J1c3 14

J1c2 14

H2a5 14

J1c 13

H1c 13

J1c1 12

J1b1a 11

H10 11

U5a1 10

H2a2 10

U5b1b1 9

K1a 9

H6a1 9

H2a1 9

H1b 9

U5b2a1 8

T2 8

K1a4a1 8

I1a1 8

H2a2a 8

H1a3 8

T2e 7

H5b 7

H3g 7

H1c1 7

X2b 6

U5b2b 6

U5b2a2 6

U5b1b1a 6

K1a2a 6

K1a10 6

I2 6

HV 6

H5 6

H4a1 6

H3a 6

H2a2b1 6

H1a1 6

H1a 6

H16 6

W 5

V7a 5

U5b2c 5

U5a2b 5

U4a 5

U2e 5

T2c1 5

K2a 5

J2a1a1b 5

J1c6 5

H6a1b2 5

H4a1a 5

H1e2 5

H1c2 5

W3a 4

W1 4

V2 4

U8a1a 4

N1a 4

K1b2a 4

K1a4d 4

I4 4

HV0 4

H2a 4

H1m 4

H1g 4

H1e1a 4

H1e1 4

H18 4

H11a2 4

H11a 4

Z1a 3

X2c1 3

X2 3

W1e 3

V3 3

U5b1c 3

U5b1b1a1 3

U5a2d 3

U4b1 3

U2e1a 3

T2b5 3

T2a 3

K1c2 3

K1c1b 3

K1a3a 3

K1a1b2a 3

K1 3

J2a1a 3

J1c5a 3

J1c3b 3

J1c1a 3

J1b1a2 3

H6a1b 3

H5a 3

H1n 3

H1e 3

H17 3

H13a1a1a 3

H13a1a 3

C1 3

A2 3

W4 2

V6 2

V1a 2

U8b'K 2

U6a3 2

U5b3b 2

U5b2a 2

U5b1b2 2

U5a2c 2

U5a2a 2

U5a2 2

U5a1a 2

U4c1 2

T2f1 2

T2b6 2

T2b4 2

T2b2 2

T1a3 2

T1 2

N1b1 2

L3b1a 2

L2c 2

L2a1 2

K2b1a 2

K2b1 2

K2b 2

K2a6 2

K2 2

K1a1b1 2

J2b1a3 2

J2b1a 2

J2a1a1 2

J1c3b1 2

J1c2c 2

J1c2b 2

J1c1b1 2

I1b 2

HV6 2

HV0c 2

H4a 2

H3c 2

H39 2

H2a1a 2

H24 2

H13 2

H11 2

H10a1 2

G2a 2

C1c 2

B2a1 2

X2e2 1

X2b4 1

W6 1

W5a 1

W5 1

W3 1

W1a 1

V9a 1

V8 1

V2b 1

U7 1

U6a7 1

U6a 1

U5b1d 1

U5b1 1

U5a1b 1

U4b1a3 1

U4b1a2 1

U4b 1

U4a2b 1

U4a1 1

U4 1

U3b1 1

U3a1 1

U1b 1

U1a1 1

T2g 1

T2f 1

T2b3 1

T2b1 1

T2a1b 1

T1a 1

N1b1d 1

N1b1b 1

N1a1a 1

M32c 1

M1a3a 1

M1a1 1

YDNA:

I1* 96

R1a1a 78

R1b1b2a1a2f* 66

R1b1b2a1a 41

R1b1b2a1a1* 40

I1 21

R1b1b2a1a1 19

R1b1b2a1a2f2 14

R1a1a* 13

R1b1b2a1a1d* 12

N1c1* 12

I2b1 11

E1b1b1a2* 11

R1b1b2a1a2d* 9

R1b1b2a1a1d1* 9

I2b1* 9

R1b1b2a1a2d3a 8

J2 8

G2a 8

R1b1b2a1a2d3* 7

R1b1b2a1a1a 7

J2b2* 6

R1b1b2a1a2f 5

R1b1b2a1a2d 5

R1b1b2a1a2c 5

R1b1b2a1a2 5

R1b1b2a 5

Q1a3 4

Q1a3* 3

N1c1 3

J1e 3

E1b1a8a1* 3

T 2

R1b1b2a1a1d1a 2

R1b1b2 2

N 2

I2a2b 2

I2a2 2

I2 2

G2a3a1 2

E1b1b1a 2

R1b1b2a1a2* 1

R1b1b2a1a1d 1

J2a1e 1

J2a1b* 1

J1 1

I2b2 1

I2a 1

G2a3b2 1

E1b1b1c1 1

E1b1a8a1a 1

E1b1a7a 1

C3 1

0

Grand Total 576

Maternal Grandmother:

mtDNA:

H 76

H1 56

T2b 49

H3 31

H5a1 22

H1c 22

V 20

T1a1 20

T2 18

H1b 18

U5a1a1 16

U5a1b1 15

U5a1 14

K1a4a1 14

H2a2 13

J1c3 12

J1c2 12

H6a1 12

H1a1 12

J1c1 11

I2 11

H4a1a 11

H2a2a 11

H1c1 11

W1 10

K1a 10

J1c 10

I1a1 10

U2e 9

HV 9

H4a1 9

U4b1 8

T2e 8

T2b2 8

H1m 8

H10 8

X2b 7

W3a 7

U5b2a1 7

U5b1b1a 7

U5b1b1 7

U2e1 7

T2a 7

K2a 7

J1b1a 7

H7 7

H2a1 7

H1e1 7

X2 6

W 6

V3 6

U5b2b 6

J2b1a 6

I4 6

H3a 6

U5a1b 5

T2f1 5

J2a2 5

H5 5

H2a5 5

H1n 5

H1e1a 5

H1a 5

A2 5

W6 4

U5b3b 4

U5b2c 4

U5b1b2 4

U5a2b 4

U5a1a 4

T2a1 4

T1 4

J2a1a1b 4

J2a1a 4

HV0 4

H5b 4

H5a 4

H4a 4

H1g 4

H1c2 4

H16 4

H13a1a1a 4

G2a 4

Z1a 3

U8a1 3

U5b2a 3

U4a 3

U4 3

T2c1 3

K2 3

K1c2 3

K1a4d 3

K1a2a 3

J1c3b 3

J1c2b 3

I3 3

H3g 3

H23 3

H1a3 3

X2b4 2

W5 2

V1a 2

U8a1a 2

U7 2

U5b2a2 2

U5b2 2

U5b1e 2

U5a2c 2

U5a2a 2

U4b1a2 2

U4b 2

U3b1 2

U3a1 2

T2b6 2

T2b5 2

T2b3 2

N1a 2

K2a4 2

K2a2a 2

K1b2a 2

K1a1b1a 2

K1a10 2

K1 2

J2b1b 2

J2b1 2

J1c8 2

J1c6 2

J1c5a 2

J1c5 2

J1c4 2

J1c1b1a 2

J1b1a2 2

H9a 2

H7a 2

H6a1b2 2

H6a1b 2

H3c 2

H2a3 2

H2a2b1 2

H2a2b 2

H2a 2

H24 2

H1e2 2

H1c3 2

H17 2

H13a2 2

H13a1a 2

H11a 2

H10a1 2

F1d 2

X2e2 1

X2e 1

X2c1 1

X 1

W5a 1

W4 1

W3 1

W1e 1

W1c 1

V9 1

V6 1

V2a1a 1

V2 1

V1 1

U8b'K 1

U6d 1

U5b3 1

U5b1d 1

U5b1c 1

U5b1b1a1 1

U5b1 1

U5a2 1

U4c1 1

U4c 1

U4b2 1

U4a1b 1

U4a1 1

U3b 1

U3a2 1

U2e1a 1

T2b1 1

T2a1b 1

T1b 1

T1a 1

R8a1a3 1

R1a1 1

M5a1b 1

M1b2 1

M1a3a 1

M18 1

M10a1a 1

L3d1-5 1

L3b1a 1

L2c2a 1

L2a1c3 1

L1c2a2 1

K2b1a 1

K2b1 1

K2a6 1

K1c1b 1

K1b2 1

K1b1a1 1

K1a4a 1

K1a3a1 1

K1a1b1 1

K1a11 1

K1a1 1

J2b1a2 1

J2a1a1 1

J1c3b1 1

J1c2c 1

J1c1a 1

J1b 1

I5a 1

I2a 1

I1 1

I 1

HV6 1

HV1a2 1

HV1a 1

HV0a 1

H9 1

H8 1

H6a1a 1

H5'36 1

H4a1a1a 1

H39 1

H28 1

H20 1

H1f 1

H1e 1

H1a2 1

H15 1

H14a 1

H13 1

H11a2 1

H11 1

G2 1

F1a1 1

D4j 1

D4i2 1

C1 1

B4c1c1 1

B4a1a1a 1

B2 1

A2b 1

Grand Total 1107

YDNA:

I1* 113

R1a1a 83

R1b1b2a1a2f* 69

R1b1b2a1a 58

R1b1b2a1a1* 40

I1 21

R1b1b2a1a2d3* 18

R1b1b2a1a1 17

N1c1* 15

R1b1b2a1a2f2 11

R1b1b2a1a1d* 11

R1b1b2a1a1a 11

I2b1* 11

E1b1b1a2* 11

R1a1a* 9

R1b1b2a1a1d1* 8

G2a 8

I2b1 7

R1b1b2a1a2d 6

R1b1b2a1a2 6

J2b2* 6

R1b1b2a1a2d* 5

R1b1b2a1a2c 5

R1b1b2a 5

J2 5

R1b1b2a1a2f 4

R1b1b2a1a2d3a 4

Q1a3* 4

J2a1b* 4

T 3

R1b1b2a1a1d1a 3

J1e 3

N1c1 2

J2a1e 2

J2a1b1* 2

I2b2 2

I2a2b 2

I2a2 2

G2a3b2 2

E1b1b1c1a 2

R2 1

R1b1b2 1

R1b1b1 1

Q1a3 1

L2a 1

I2a1* 1

I2 1

H1a* 1

G2c* 1

E1b1b1b2a 1

E1b1b1a4 1

E1b1b1a 1

E1b1a8a1a 1

E1b1a7a 1

D1* 1

C3 1

0

Grand Total 616

Maternal Uncle:

mtDNA:

H1 64

H 61

T2b 47

H3 28

V 19

H5a1 19

J1c3 18

H1c 18

T1a1 17

H4a1 15

H1a1 15

J1c2 14

H2a2a 14

J1c1 13

U5a1b1 12

U5a1a1 12

K1a4a1 12

I2 12

U5a1 11

H4a1a 11

H1b 11

T2 10

J1c 10

I1a1 10

H6a1 10

H2a2 10

H1a 10

W1 9

U5b2b 9

U2e 9

H1m 9

H1e1a 9

H1a3 9

H10 9

T2e 8

H7 8

H5 8

H2a5 8

W3a 7

U5b1b1a 7

U5b1b1 7

U3a1 7

HV0 7

HV 7

H1c1 7

U5b2a1 6

U5a1b 6

H1g 6

H1e 6

U5b2a2 5

U5a1a 5

U4b1 5

U2e1 5

T2a 5

K2a 5

K1a2a 5

J2a1a1b 5

H5a 5

H2a1 5

H1n 5

H1e1 5

U5b2a 4

U4 4

T2f1 4

T2b2 4

T2b1 4

N1a 4

K1c2 4

K1a4d 4

K1a 4

J1c8 4

J1c6 4

J1c3b 4

J1b1a 4

H5b 4

H3a 4

X2c1 3

X2b 3

X2 3

W1e 3

V1a 3

U8a1 3

U5b3b 3

U5b2c 3

U5b1b2 3

U5a2b 3

U4b1a2 3

U4a 3

T2c1 3

T2b5 3

J1c7a 3

J1c5a 3

J1c4 3

J1c2b 3

J1c1a 3

J1b1a2 3

I4 3

I3 3

I1 3

H6a1b2 3

H4a 3

H2a2b1 3

H2a 3

H1a2 3

H16 3

H13a1a1a 3

H11 3

G2a 3

C1c 3

B2 3

A2 3

Z1a 2

W6 2

W5a 2

W5 2

V3 2

U5a2c 2

U5a2a 2

U4c 2

T2g 2

T2b3 2

T2a1 2

T1 2

N1b1d 2

L3b1a 2

L2a1 2

K2a4 2

K2a2a 2

K2 2

K1c1b 2

K1b2a 2

K1a1b1 2

K1a10 2

K1 2

J2a1a 2

J1d1 2

J1c5 2

J1c3b1 2

J1c2c 2

I2a 2

I1b 2

H9a 2

H7a1 2

H6a1b 2

H6a1a 2

H5'36 2

H4a1a1a 2

H3g 2

H3c 2

H1f 2

H1c3 2

H18 2

H14a 2

H13a2 2

H11a2 2

H11a 2

B2a1 2

X2e2 1

X2b4 1

W3 1

W1c 1

W 1

V9 1

V1 1

U8b'K 1

U8a1a 1

U7 1

U6d 1

U6a5 1

U6a3 1

U6a 1

U5b2 1

U5b1e 1

U5b1c 1

U5b1b1a1 1

U5b1 1

U5a2d 1

U5a2 1

U4b2 1

U4b1a3 1

U4a3 1

U4a2 1

U4a1b 1

U4a1a 1

U4a1 1

U3b1 1

U2e1a 1

T2b6 1

T2b4 1

T2a1b 1

T1b 1

T1a3 1

T1a 1

R1a1 1

R1a 1

N1c 1

N1b1b 1

M5a 1

M1b2 1

M10a1a 1

L2c2a 1

L2c 1

L2a1c3 1

K2b1 1

K2b 1

K2a6 1

K1c1 1

K1b1c 1

K1b1a1 1

K1b1a 1

K1a4a 1

K1a3a1 1

K1a3a 1

K1a1b2a 1

K1a1b1a 1

K1a11 1

K1a1 1

J2b1 1

J2a2 1

J2a1a1 1

J1c3c 1

I5a1 1

I 1

HV6 1

HV1a2 1

HV1a 1

H9 1

H7a 1

H39 1

H2b 1

H2a5a 1

H2a2b 1

H2a1a 1

H28 1

H24 1

H22 1

H20 1

H17 1

H15 1

H13a1a 1

H13 1

H10a1 1

G2 1

F1a1c 1

F1a1 1

D4i2 1

C4a1 1

C4 1

C1 1

A2i 1

Grand Total 1081

YDNA:

I1* 120

R1a1a 86

R1b1b2a1a2f* 59

R1b1b2a1a 50

R1b1b2a1a1* 31

I1 20

R1b1b2a1a1 18

R1b1b2a1a2f2 16

N1c1* 15

R1b1b2a1a1d* 14

R1a1a* 14

E1b1b1a2* 13

G2a 12

R1b1b2a1a2 9

R1b1b2a1a1a 9

R1b1b2a1a2d3* 8

R1b1b2a1a2d* 7

R1b1b2a1a1d1* 7

J2b2* 7

I2b1 7

T 6

R1b1b2a1a2d3a 6

R1b1b2a1a2c 6

R1b1b2a1a2f 5

R1b1b2a1a2d 5

J2 5

I2b1* 5

R1b1b2a 4

J2a1b* 3

J1e 3

I2b2 3

R1b1b2a1a1d1a 2

Q1a3* 2

I2a1* 2

G2a3b2 2

E1b1a8a1* 2

R2 1

R1b1b2 1

Q1a3a 1

L2a 1

J1 1

I2a2b 1

I2a2 1

E1b1b1b2a 1

E1b1b1a 1

E1b1a8a1a 1

E1b1a7a 1

C3 1

0

Grand Total 595

Paternal Aunt:

mtDNA:

H 78

H1 77

T2b 47

V 31

H3 26

H5a1 24

H1c 22

T1a1 19

H1b 18

U5a1b1 13

H7 13

H4a1 13

J1c 12

J1b1a 12

H1a3 12

U5b2b 11

U5b1b1a 11

U5a1a1 11

H1a 11

U5b2a1 10

U5a1 10

J2a1a1b 10

J1c3 10

H5a 10

H2a2 10

H1a1 10

H6a1 9

H1m 9

H1c1 9

J1c2 8

V1a 7

U3a1 7

T2b5 7

K1a 7

J1c1 7

I1a1 7

H2a5 7

H16 7

H11a2 7

W1 6

K2a 6

K1c2 6

HV 6

H7a1 6

H5 6

H1n 6

H1e1a 6

W3a 5

U4a 5

T2f1 5

T2 5

K1b2a 5

K1 5

J2b1a 5

I2 5

HV0 5

H5b 5

H4a1a 5

H2a2b1 5

H2a2a 5

H2a1 5

H13a1a1a 5

H10 5

X2b 4

X2 4

V3 4

V2 4

U5b2a2 4

U5b1b1a1 4

U5b1b1 4

U5a2a 4

U5a1b 4

U4b1 4

U2e1 4

T2a 4

J2a2 4

J2a1a 4

J1c3b1 4

J1c3b 4

I4 4

H6a1b 4

H3c 4

H1g 4

H1c2 4

H11a 4

A2 4

W5 3

W1c 3

V7a 3

U5b1 3

U4a2a 3

U2e 3

T1a3 3

K1a4a1 3

K1a3a 3

K1a1b1 3

J1c8 3

J1c5 3

J1c4 3

J1b1a2 3

H3g 3

H3a 3

H18 3

H17 3

H13a1a 3

H11 3

H10a 3

X2c1 2

X2b4 2

W 2

U6a1b 2

U5b2c 2

U5b2a 2

U5a2c 2

U4d1 2

U4c1 2

U4b1a2 2

T2g 2

T2c1 2

T2b6 2

T2b3 2

T2b2 2

T2a1b 2

T1 2

K2b1 2

K2a6 2

K2a3 2

K2 2

K1b2 2

K1b1a 2

K1a2a 2

K1a10 2

K1a1 2

J2b1a3 2

J2b1 2

J1c7a 2

J1c3a 2

J1c2c 2

I2a 2

I1 2

HV6 2

HV0a 2

H1e2 2

H1e 2

H13 2

D1 2

B2 2

A2f1 2

Z1a 1

X2a2 1

V8 1

U8a1a 1

U7 1

U6a 1

U5b3b 1

U5b3 1

U5a2d 1

U5a2b 1

U5a2 1

U5a1a 1

U5a 1

U5 1

U4b1b 1

U4a2b 1

U4a1b 1

U4a1 1

U4 1

U3b1 1

U3b 1

U2e1a 1

U1b 1

U1a1 1

T2f 1

T2b1 1

T2a1 1

P10 1

N1b1 1

N1a1a 1

L3d1b 1

L3b 1

L2c 1

L2a1i 1

L2a1 1

K2b1a 1

K2b 1

K1c1b 1

K1c1 1

K1b2b 1

K1a4b1 1

K1a4 1

K1a3a1 1

K1a11 1

J2b1a2 1

J2b1a1 1

J2a1a1 1

J1c6 1

J1c5a 1

I3 1

I1b 1

I 1

HV0c 1

H7a 1

H6a1b2 1

H6a1a 1

H6a 1

H6 1

H4a1a1a 1

H4a 1

H39 1

H2a5a 1

H2a 1

H24 1

H23 1

H20 1

H1e1 1

H1c3 1

H1a2 1

H15a 1

G2a 1

F2 1

F1a1 1

D1d 1

C4a1 1

C4 1

B4a1a 1

B2a1 1

A5a1a1 1

A2h 1

Grand Total 1074

YDNA:

I1* 96

R1b1b2a1a2f* 85

R1a1a 61

R1b1b2a1a1* 48

R1b1b2a1a 43

R1b1b2a1a2f2 19

R1b1b2a1a1 16

I1 16

R1b1b2a1a2d3* 15

I2b1 13

R1b1b2a1a1a 11

N1c1* 11

R1a1a* 10

R1b1b2a1a2d* 9

R1b1b2a1a1d* 8

E1b1b1a2* 8

R1b1b2a1a2d3a 7

R1b1b2a1a2d 7

J2 7

J1e 7

I2b1* 7

R1b1b2a1a2f 6

G2a 6

T 5

R1b1b2a1a1d1* 5

R1b1b2a 5

R1b1b2a1a2c 4

R1b1b2a1a2 4

J2b2* 4

N1c1 3

J2a1b1* 3

J2a1b* 3

I2a2b 3

E1b1b1c1 3

R1b1b2a1a1d1a 2

Q1a3* 2

I2a 2

I2 2

G2a5 2

G2a3b2 2

E1b1b1c1a 2

E1b1b1b2a 2

E1b1b1 2

R1b1b2a1 1

R1b1b2 1

Q1a3a* 1

Q1a3 1

J2b1 1

J1 1

J 1

I2b2 1

G2a3a1 1

G 1

E1b1b1a 1

E1b1a7a 1

0

Grand Total 588

Joe B

01-01-2014, 12:56 AM

Y-DNA (n=596)

R1b 123 21%

J2 94 16%

E1b 87 15%

J1 84 14%

R1a 62 10%

G2c 40 7%

G2a 17 3%

I2 19 3%

Q1b 19 3%

Other 51 8%

Fancy Chart

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the SUN child

01-01-2014, 02:16 AM

I've got 47 matches on 23andme. All unknown to me.

Y-DNA

6 x R1b : ( R1b1b2a, R1b1b2a, R1b1b2a, R1b1b2a1a, R1b1b2a1a2d*, R1b1b2a1a2f2 )

5 x J2 : ( J2, J2, J2, J2a1e, J2a1b* )

4 x E1b1b1c1a : ( E1b1b1c1a, E1b1b1c1a, E1b1b1c1a, E1b1b1c1a )

3 x I1 : ( I1, I1, I1 )

3 x I2 : ( I2, I2, I2 )

3 x G2a5 : ( G2a5, G2a5, G2a5 )

2 x R1a1a : (R1a1a, R1a1a )

2 x R2 : ( R2, R2 )

1 x J1

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6309/7gop.jpg

mt-DNA

B2

D4j

H , H , H , H

H1 , H1 , H1a1 , H1c

H4 , H4

H6a1b

H10

H16

H20

H23

H29

HV , HV

I1 , I1

J1c , J1c6 , J1c7a , J1c7a , J1c7a , J1d

J2b1

K1a , K1a4

K2a2a

L3d1b

R0a

T1

T2b

U1b

U2d , U2e1

U4c1

U5a1 , U5a2b

U6a , U6a , U6a5

U8b

W5

I've got 47 matches on 23andme. All unknown to me.

Y-DNA

6 x R1b : ( R1b1b2a, R1b1b2a, R1b1b2a)

5 x J2 : ( J2, J2, J2, J2a1e, J2a1b* )

4 x E1b1b1c1a : ( E1b1b1c1a, E1b1b1c1a, E1b1b1c1a, E1b1b1c1a )

3 x I2 : ( I2, I2, I2 )

3 x G2a5 : ( G2a5, G2a5, G2a5 )

2 x R1a1a : (R1a1a, R1a1a )

You should contact with one of these guys. If their direct ancestors turn out Kurdish, then report to Palisto.

the SUN child

01-01-2014, 07:26 PM

You should contact with one of these guys. If their direct ancestors turn out Kurdish, then report to Palisto.

Too much work heval. But some wrote down their names and 'family location'. Most of them are from Northern Kurdistan cities, like Erzirom, Dersim, Cewlig (Bingol). I think many of them are of were Kurd Ezdi. 90+% of my ancestors are Kurmanji from Northern Kurdistan. It's known that many 'Kurd Ezdi' became 'Muslims' in Northern Kurdistan.

There's 1 fella, Soghomon Apelian, born in Syria in 1935 and with current location in the States with an Armenian surname and his Y-DNA is hg. I2 and mt-DNA hg. H4. But that says nothing because my surname is also 'Armenian', since it ends with -ian too. So, maybe he is Kurdish too, because my paternal tribe / clan is also from Sinjar, Sheixan & Shangal - Qamislo region.

There're also matches with people with European names with some from Northern Europe, like Jim Bruno (Y-DNA hg. J2a1b* & mt-DNA hg. U5a1) and Maghen Garrett (mt-DNA hg. H16). I wonder if those Europeans or EU Americans have some Kurd Ezdi roots, because I don't have any EU roots.

My closest match is somebody with Y-DNA hg. J2a1e and mt-DNA hg. H. He is 4th cousin to me with 0.22% DNA shared across 2 segments. But his name and location is not visible to me.

But that says nothing because my surname is also 'Armenian', since it ends with -ian too.

The -ian suffix is very common among Armenians but it definitely isn't exclusive among them. For example, former Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's family name was originally Sabaghian despite him having no known Armenian ancestry.

the SUN child

01-01-2014, 07:56 PM

The -ian suffix is very common among Armenians but it definitely isn't exclusive among them. For example, former Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's family name was originally Sabaghian despite him having no known Armenian ancestry.

OK, but when my ancestors fled Northern Kurdistan and migrated into Armenia at that time it was the Russian Empire, they took an Armenian surname. My surname has Kurdish/Iranic prefix but an Armenian suffix (-ian). Also many Kurds in Georgia and Russia changed Armenian suffix '-ian' with '-ov' or '-ev'.

OK, but when my ancestors fled Northern Kurdistan and migrated into Armenia at that time it was the Russian Empire, they took an Armenian surname. My surname has Kurdish/Iranic prefix but an Armenian suffix (-ian). Also many Kurds in Georgia and Russia changed Armenian suffix '-ian' with '-ov' or '-yev'.

Sure, which doesn't contradict what I wrote. Your ancestors (as well as other Yezidi Kurds) adopted Armenian naming conventions during Soviet times. This happens to be analogous with the numerous Iranians who have Arabic surnames, despite not being of Arabic heritage. Call it a circumstantial convention shift.

My comment, on the other hand, refers to the non-exclusivity of the -ian suffix with Armenians to begin with.

newtoboard

01-01-2014, 08:07 PM

Given the linguistic influence of Iranian on Armenian isn't it possible the -ian suffix is part of that?

Given the linguistic influence of Iranian on Armenian isn't it possible the -ian suffix is part of that?

I will not claim any expert insight into the matter but yes, I'm inclined to think the -ian suffix is ultimately of Iranic origin. In Modern Persian, the old pre-Islamic Iranian dynasties are all referred to with it (Achaemanid = Hakhamaneshian, Parthian = Ashkanian, Sassanid = Sassanian).

MitchellSince1893

01-01-2014, 08:40 PM

Mine.

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I will not claim any expert insight into the matter but yes, I'm inclined to think the -ian suffix is ultimately of Iranic origin. In Modern Persian, the old Iranian dynasties are all referred to with it (Achaemanid = Hakhamaneshian, Parthian = Ashkanian, Sassanid = Sassanian).

Interesting, the -ian suffix is very similar to the Pashto -iyan, as in Khariyan (urbanite).

Heber

01-01-2014, 11:24 PM

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Wulf Talented

01-01-2014, 11:36 PM

Mtdna top 5

1. H - 69

2. H1 - 67

3. H3 - 24

4. H1c - 19

5. H5a1 - 17

YDNA top 5.

1. R1b1b2a1a2f* - 91

2. I1* - 46

3. R1b1b2a1a - 45

4. R1b1b2a1a1* - 37

5. R1b1b2a1a2f2 - 23

vettor

01-02-2014, 02:11 AM

Mtdna top 5

U5b2c x 10

T2b x 9

J2a1a x 9

J1c7 x 8

K1a4a x 7

ydna top 5

R1b1a* x 26

R1a1a x 14

G2a* x 8

I1* x 8

I2a2* x 7

I2b1* x 6

January update, 12 new additions

mtDNA

8x(6%) K1a, HV

7x(5%) H

4x(3%) U5a1a1, T2, H13a2

3x(2%) T2g, T2b, J1d, J1c2, H1

2x(<2%) W6, V, U8b, U5a1, U3b, U1a1, T2e, HV8, HV4, H1c, H1a1, H11a, H10a1

Y-DNA

14x(17%) R1b1b2a

8x(10%) J2

5x(6%) R1a1a, E1b1b1c1a

4x(5%) J2a1b*

3x(4%) R1b1b2a1a1*, L2*, E1b1b1a2*, E1b1b1a

MTDNA

K1A1B1A 234

N1b2 59

H 59

K2a2a 55

H1 54

Y Dna

J1e 130

E1b1b1c1 60

R1a1a 55

E1b1b1c1a 47

J2 44

February update, 5 new additions

mtDNA

8x(6%) K1a, HV

7x(5%) H

4x(3%) U5a1a1, T2, H13a2

3x(2%) T2g, T2b, J1d, J1c2, H1

2x(1%) W6, V2, V, U8b, U5a1, U3b, U1a1, T2e, R0a, HV8, HV4, H1c, H1a1, H11a, H10a1

Y-DNA

15x(18%) R1b1b2a

8x(9%) J2

7x(8%) R1a1a

5x(6%) E1b1b1c1a

4x(5%) J2a1b*

Mamluk

03-10-2014, 06:25 PM

My father's: 33% R1b1b2..., 21% R1a1a, 18% E1b1b1...

Y-DNA

11x R1b1b2... (...a1a, a1a1d, a1a2c, a1a2d*, a1a2d3*)

7x R1a1a

6x E1b1b1.. (...b1a, b1a2)

2x T

1x: B2a1a, E2, G1, I1, I2a2b, J1e, J2a1e, R1

mtDNA: 37% H, 15% U, 13% J, 13%K, 13%T

23x H (H, H1, H13a1a1a, H13a2, H14, H1c, H1e, H2a5, H4a1, H5a1, H6a1a, H7, HV2a)

9x U (U2e, U3a1, U4, U4a2, U4b1a3, U5a1, U5a2b, U5b1, U5b2b)

8x J (J1b, J1b1a, J1b1a2, J1c3a, J1d, J2a1a)

8x K (K1a, K1a1O, K1a2a, K2)

8x T (T1a1, T2a, T2a1b, T2b, T2b3, T2b4, T2c1)

Mamluk

03-10-2014, 09:22 PM

Wife's:

Y-DNA: 24% R1b1b2a, 15% E1b1b1..., 13% R1a1a, 7% I2a2..., 7% J2b2

24x R1b1b2a... (...a1a, a1a1, a1a2d, a1a2d3a, a1a2f*)

9x E1b1b1a... (...a1b, a2, c1a)

8x R1a1a

4x I2a2(b)

4x J2b2

mtDNA: 35% H, 15% U, 13% J, 13% T, 8% K

36x H (H, H1, H10, H11, H11a, H12, H13, H13a2, H14a, H15a1, H1c1, H1e, H1o, H2a2, H2a2a, H2a5, H3, H4a1, H5, H7, H8, H9a, HV, HV2a)

15x U (U1a3, U2e1, U3b, U3b1, U4a2, U4d2, U5a1, U5a1a1, U5a2, U5b1b1, U5b1b2, U7)

13x J (J, J1b1a2, J1b1b, J1c, J1c1, J1c2c, J1c5, J2a2, J2b1)

15x T (T1a, T1a1, T2, T2a, T2a1b, T2b5, T2c1, T2e, T2f)

8x K (K1a1b1a, K1a2a, K1a3a, K1a4, K1b2a, K2a)

March update, +8

mtDNA

9x(6%) K1a

8x(5%) HV

7x(5%) H

4x(3%) V, U5a1a1, T2, H13a2

3x(2%) T2g, T2b, J1d, J1c2, HV8, H1

Y-DNA

17x(19%) R1b1b2a

8x(9%) J2

7x(8%) R1a1a

5x(6%) E1b1b1c1a

4x(4%) J2a1b*, E1b1b1a2*

FaerieQueene

06-25-2014, 04:06 AM

From my Dad's Relative Finder(out of 364 matches)

Top 5 y-DNA:

J1e-----43

G2a-----18

E1b1b1c1a-----16

G1*-----13

J2-----12

Top 5 mtDNA:

H-----22

U3a-----20

H1-----12

A2-----12

U4a-----11

H13a2-----8

U1a1-----8

Full List (mtdna) 364 folks total

A2-----12

A2q-----1

A8-----1

B2-----5

C1-----1

C1b2-----3

C1c-----1

D1-----2

E1a1a-----1

H-----22

H1-----12

H1a-----1

H10a1-----2

H11a2-----2

H13a1-----4

H13a2-----8

H14-----2

H14a-----2

H1a1-----1

H1b-----3

H1c-----1

H2-----1

H20-----3

H23-----1

H27-----1

H2a1-----1

H2a5-----1

H36-----1

H38-----2

H4a-----2

H4a1-----1

H14a1a1a-----2

H5-----3

H5a-----2

H5b-----6

H6a1-----1

H6a1b-----2

H6a1b2-----2

H6b-----3

H7a1-----1

H8-----3

HV-----7

HV0-----1

HV1-----1

HV1b-----4

I1-----1

I4-----1

I5-----2

I5a-----3

J1-----2

J1b-----4

J1b1-----1

J1b1a-----2

J1c-----3

J1c1-----1

J1c2-----2

J1c3-----3

J1c8-----1

J1d1-----3

J2a-----1

J2a2-----5

J2b1-----3

J2b1a-----1

K1a-----5

K1a10-----1

K1a12a-----2

K1a1b1a-----2

K1a1b2a-----1

K1a4-----2

K1a5-----1

K1c2-----1

K2a6-----2

L1b1a-----1

L2a1c1-----1

L2c2a-----1

L3b1a2-----1

L3d3a-----2

L3e2b-----1

L3f1b2a-----1

L3h1a2a-----1

M1a1-----1

M1b2-----1

N1a-----2

N1b1-----3

N1b1a-----3

N1b1b-----2

N1c-----1

R0a-----5

R0a1-----3

R0a1a-----7

R0a2-----4

T1-----2

T1a-----6

T1a1-----4

T2-----3

T2a-----1

T2a1-----2

T2a1a-----2

T2b-----7

T2b3-----1

T2c1-----1

T2g-----2

U1a-----1

U1a1-----8

U1b-----3

U2e1-----1

U2e1a-----1

U3a-----20

U3a1-----1

U3a2-----3

U4-----5

U4a-----11

U4a2-----3

U4a3-----1

U5a1-----1

U5a1a-----1

U5a1a1-----1

U5a1b1-----1

U5a2b-----2

U5b1b1-----3

U5b1b1a-----3

U5b2a2-----1

U5b3-----1

U6a-----1

U6a3-----4

U7-----3

U8b-----2

U9-----1

V-----4

V1a-----3

W3a-----1

W6-----2

X1a1-----1

X2-----4

X2b-----1

X2f-----1

Full List (ydna) 210 males total

A3b2*-----1

E1b1b1a-----11

E1b1b1a2*-----4

E1b1b1a4-----1

E1b1b1c-----4

E1b1b1c1-----4

E1b1b1c1a-----16

F-----1

G1-----3

G1*-----13

G2a-----18

G2a3a1-----2

G2a4-----1

I1*-----6

I1b*-----1

I2a-----1

I2a1*-----2

I2a2b-----2

I2b1-----1

J1-----5

J1e-----43

J2-----12

J2a1a-----1

J2a1b*-----5

J2a1b1*-----6

J2a1e-----1

J2a1j-----3

J2b*-----1

J2b1-----2

J2b2*-----2

L2*-----2

R1a1a-----1

R1b1b2a-----6

R1b1b2a1-----1

R1b1b2a1a-----5

R1b1b2a1a1-----1

R1b1b2a1a1*-----4

R1b1b2a1a1a-----1

R1b1b2a1a2c-----1

R1b1b2a1a2d-----1

R1b1b2a1a2d*-----3

R1b1b2a1a2f-----2

R1b1b2a1a2f*-----3

R1b1b2a1a2f2-----2

T-----4

Humanist

06-25-2014, 04:25 AM

From my Dad's Relative Finder(out of 364 matches)

Top 5 y-DNA:

J1e-----43

G2a-----18

E1b1b1c1a-----16

G1*-----13

J2-----12

Wow! That is a lot of G1. Are the G1* men of Palestinian origin? See a past post of mine below that may be of some relevance, if the men are indeed of Palestinian origin:

There is a possibility that my [G1*] line is distantly related to men from Palestine. Specifically, the El Farra men of Khan Yunis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l06KilpClo

FaerieQueene

06-25-2014, 05:09 AM

Wow! That is a lot of G1. Are the G1* men of Palestinian origin? See a past post of mine below that may be of some relevance, if the men are indeed of Palestinian origin:

There is a possibility that my [G1*] line is distantly related to men from Palestine. Specifically, the El Farra men of Khan Yunis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l06KilpClo

I'm only sharing genomes with one G1* from his RF. The rest are anonymous and I haven't contacted them.

Associated surnames from these G1* profiles:

Abu Sabha, Cader, David, Hanania, Khalil, Saade, Safie, TanasAssociated mtdna from these G1* profiles:U3a(2), R0a1a, HV1, T2a1a, H1, A2(3), U4, HV1b(2), L3h1a2aI wonder why you would be related to Yunis, it's a very Levantine surname, but in Palestine it's mostly Muslim.

Humanist

06-25-2014, 06:17 AM

I'm only sharing genomes with one G1* from his RF. The rest are anonymous and I haven't contacted them.

Associated surnames from these G1* profiles:

Abu Sabha, Cader, David, Hanania, Khalil, Saade, Safie, TanasAssociated mtdna from these G1* profiles:U3a(2), R0a1a, HV1, T2a1a, H1, A2(3), U4, HV1b(2), L3h1a2aI wonder why you would be related to Yunis, it's a very Levantine surname, but in Palestine it's mostly Muslim.

Yeah. Sorry about that. By "distantly related" I meant a few thousand years (e.g. ~3000 years). The Palestinians appeared in my haplotype search results on the old SMGF database a few years back.

My RF surpassed 120 users recently, so I thought it'd be interesting to revisit my results:

mtDNA (pretty much unchanged rankings-wise)

8 U7

7 H

4 HV, T2b, T2g

3 H3, J1b1b1

2 C4, F1a, H1, H13a1a1a, H7, HV1b2, HV2, J1b, J1b1, J1c2, J2b1, K1a1b1a, T2c1, T2e, U1a1, U2e1, W4, X1a1

Y-DNA (R-derived lineages make up >40% now)

9 R1a1a

8 R2

6 R1b1b2a

5 E1b1b1a2*

4 G1*, J1, J2

A hefty portion of my R2a-M124 relatives are of Jewish heritage. I entertained the idea it relates to my own paternal line before recalling from the R2 project forum (page currently suspended) that the mutation status beyond L295 differs markedly (at present I am confirmed R2a*). Currently appears to be a coincidence.

jesus

01-11-2015, 03:28 AM

Y-DNA:

10 R1b

8 R1a1a/R1a1a*

5 E1b

5 J2: 2 J2, 2 J2a1a and 1 J2a1e

5 J1: 2 J1, 3 J1e

3 G2a

2 H1a

1 T, L2, I1 and F2

mtDNA:

14 H: 2 H1, 1 H11a, 1 H13a2, 2 H15, 1 H1b, 1 H1e1, 1 H2a1, 1 H2a2a, 1 H5, 1 H5a and I H7

10 T: 1 T, 3 T1a1, 2 T2, 1 T2a, 1 T2b and 1 T2e

7 L: 2 L1c, 1 L2a, 1 L2b, 2 L3b and 1 L3e

5 J1: 2 J1b and 3 J1c

4 K: 3 K1a and 1 K1c1

4 M: 1 M18, 1 M23, 1 M36 and M39

3 R: 1 R and 2 R0a1a

3 U: 1 U3b, 1 U8a1a and U5a2a

3 W: 2 W6 and 1 W3a

2 N: 1 N1a and 1 N1b

2 G2a

2 HV

2 X: X1 and X2c1

1 C4a1

1 D1

1 I5a

1 V3

Rukha

01-11-2015, 05:54 AM

Y-DNA:

15x R1a1a/R1a1a*

12x R1b: 3x R1b1b2a1a, 3x R1b1b2a1a2f, 3x R1b1b2a1a2f2, 2x R1b1b2a1a1*, 1x R1b1b2a1a1d

4x L3

3x G2c1

3x J2: 2x J2a1b*, 1x J2

Ebizur

01-11-2015, 06:32 AM

Y-DNA:

...

1 T, L2, I1 and F2F2? Do you mean ISOGG's F2-M427/M428, that clade of Y-DNA that has been found almost exclusively among Loloish (especially Lahu) people of Yunnan and its vicinity? To which mtDNA haplogroup does that individual belong? What place does he claim as the location of his earliest known ancestor?

jesus

01-11-2015, 06:42 AM

F2? Do you mean ISOGG's F2-M427/M428, that clade of Y-DNA that has been found almost exclusively among Loloish (especially Lahu) people of Yunnan and its vicinity? To which mtDNA haplogroup does that individual belong? What place does he claim as the location of his earliest known ancestor?

I'll try to contact him and ask him about his ancestry.

http://i57.tinypic.com/ejwyuh.png

ADW_1981

01-11-2015, 06:50 AM

1. R1b (all branches)

2. I1

3. I2b

4. R1a

5. E1b - Mix of African American, European and East Levantine/Middle-East groups V13, M2, M123

I was a bit surprised on the E1b numbers since it has a large margin over J2, J1, and G2.

Krefter

01-11-2015, 07:59 AM

Most of my relatives on my Puerto Rican side, don't have R1b(my Puerto Rican line is R1b-P312), which is very surprising. It makes me wonder where from Spain most of the settlers came from, considering all the E1b, I would guess somewhere by the Mediterranean coast.

I also have an African-American 3-6th cousin, on my mother's side who is close to 40% English-Cornish, is this the case(I see it is for ADW_1981) for most white Americans with a big chunk of colonial British ancestry? I've looked at admixtures online and it looks like African-Americans are on average 10-25% British. There has to be a pre-20th century explanation for this, and sadly I'm guessing it's mostly rape.

Dr_McNinja

01-11-2015, 11:49 AM

J2 (4) - J2 x 2, J2a1c, J2b2

R1b (3) - R1b1b2a1a, R1b1b2a1a2f x 2

R1a (2) - R1a, R1a1a

I (2) - I1, I1b

L (2) - L1, L3

CelticGerman

01-11-2015, 12:05 PM

Can anybody explain the aim of this exercise? The haplogroups of our matches have nothing to do with our own ancestry lines in most cases.

Salkin

01-11-2015, 01:37 PM

mtDNA top 5:

H1 63

H 57

T2b 36

H3 30

V 20

Y-DNA top 5:

I1* 76

R1b1b2a1a2f* 62

R1b1b2a1a 51

I1 39

R1b1b2a1a1* 34

vettor

01-11-2015, 07:06 PM

Here is mine below

All are as stated , I have not shorten them

Y-Dna

50 x R1b1b2

18 x R1a1

15 x I1

8 x G2a4

8 x I2a

below is mtdna .............I have shorten them

24 x H

20 x H1a1

17 x T2 ..................not surprising as NE-Italy has 18% ......10% more than any other region in Italy

13 x U5a

12 x K1a

11 x HV

10 x U5b

10 x I1a1

9 x J2a1

8 x U2e .............my father's line

If I join U5a and U5b it will make it 23 for U5

vettor

01-11-2015, 07:28 PM

my son's number

Y-Dna ..........I have shorten them

149 x R1b1b

31 x R1a1

29 x I1

25 x E1b1b1

15 x G2a

and his Mtdna ...which I shorten

52 x H

43 x U5a

42 x H1c

36 x T2c

32 x K1a

31 x T2b

30 x J1c

Can anybody explain the aim of this exercise? The haplogroups of our matches have nothing to do with our own ancestry lines in most cases.

I think the theory behind this exercise is that, with enough relatives as samples, one can see the illusion of your ancestry through your relative's Y-DNA and mtDNA. The exotic relatives shouldn't be too prominent unless an individual has some cryptic ancestry going on.

Caspian

01-11-2015, 08:36 PM

Y-DNA:

10 R1b

8 R1a1a/R1a1a*

5 E1b

5 J2: 2 J2, 2 J2a1a and 1 J2a1e

5 J1: 2 J1, 3 J1e

3 G2a

2 H1a

1 T, L2, I1 and F2

mtDNA:

14 H: 2 H1, 1 H11a, 1 H13a2, 2 H15, 1 H1b, 1 H1e1, 1 H2a1, 1 H2a2a, 1 H5, 1 H5a and I H7

10 T: 1 T, 3 T1a1, 2 T2, 1 T2a, 1 T2b and 1 T2e

7 L: 2 L1c, 1 L2a, 1 L2b, 2 L3b and 1 L3e

5 J1: 2 J1b and 3 J1c

4 K: 3 K1a and 1 K1c1

4 M: 1 M18, 1 M23, 1 M36 and M39

3 R: 1 R and 2 R0a1a

3 U: 1 U3b, 1 U8a1a and U5a2a

3 W: 2 W6 and 1 W3a

2 N: 1 N1a and 1 N1b

2 G2a

2 HV

2 X: X1 and X2c1

1 C4a1

1 D1

1 I5a

1 V3

What is L2's (a.k.a L1b) ethnicity? Is he Iranian or Armenian?

Solothurn

01-11-2015, 08:38 PM

Hi

Do you have many R1b1b2a1a2d? I have 20 of 1,820 matches! So maybe about 900 with Y-DNA :)

my son's number

Y-Dna ..........I have shorten them

149 x R1b1b

31 x R1a1

29 x I1

25 x E1b1b1

15 x G2a

and his Mtdna ...which I shorten

52 x H

43 x U5a

42 x H1c

36 x T2c

32 x K1a

31 x T2b

30 x J1c

vettor

01-11-2015, 09:05 PM

Hi

Do you have many R1b1b2a1a2d? I have 20 of 1,820 matches! So maybe about 900 with Y-DNA :)

I only have a total of 244 matches

I have 9 people with your query.............named below , others unnamed

Christopher Piazza ....................italian and english surnames ...............Trentino ( south tyrol surname of mortis ) area

marshall owen ...........................german and english .................german names are schaeffer and colmann

Gary Centurelli ..........................italian only ............usually venetian surnames like recchia ( means ear , in italian it would be orrechia )

Benjamin Bilbrough ..................no surnames

my son has 588 matches of which 24 match your query

all same as noted above for surnames PLUS

Joe Catania ...........................italian only

Henry Stopher ............................german and english

Martin Maurer .............................indicates only swiss person

Willis Johnson .............................english

Peter Marconi ............................italian and romanian

Fradetti .....................................italian only

Tom Crowley .............................english only

Táltos

01-11-2015, 10:06 PM

Can anybody explain the aim of this exercise? The haplogroups of our matches have nothing to do with our own ancestry lines in most cases.

Yeah I can understand the premise behind it like DMXX pointed out. But for me it's totally pointless. I'm over the CAP and it's hard to tell, except overwhelmingly some sort of R1b for the most part in the Y. Then at least 2-3 pages each of various subclades of E1b, I2, and J2, and R1a. My own paternal Y line of Q1b, I have 7 autosomal matches. My daughter who is also over the CAP, has 10 Q1b matches.

jesus

01-11-2015, 10:56 PM

What is L2's (a.k.a L1b) ethnicity? Is he Iranian or Armenian?

He's European American. He's L2a in 23andme.

jesus

01-11-2015, 11:29 PM

Y-DNA:

10 R1b

8 R1a1a/R1a1a*

5 E1b

5 J2: 2 J2, 2 J2a1a and 1 J2a1e

5 J1: 2 J1, 3 J1e

3 G2a

2 H1a

1 T, L2, I1 and F2

mtDNA:

14 H: 2 H1, 1 H11a, 1 H13a2, 2 H15, 1 H1b, 1 H1e1, 1 H2a1, 1 H2a2a, 1 H5, 1 H5a and I H7

10 T: 1 T, 3 T1a1, 2 T2, 1 T2a, 1 T2b and 1 T2e

7 L: 2 L1c, 1 L2a, 1 L2b, 2 L3b and 1 L3e

5 J1: 2 J1b and 3 J1c

4 K: 3 K1a and 1 K1c1

4 M: 1 M18, 1 M23, 1 M36 and M39

3 R: 1 R and 2 R0a1a

3 U: 1 U3b, 1 U8a1a and U5a2a

3 W: 2 W6 and 1 W3a

2 N: 1 N1a and 1 N1b

2 G2a

2 HV

2 X: X1 and X2c1

1 C4a1

1 D1

1 I5a

1 V3

My sister's DNA relatives list:

Y-DNA

8 R1a1a/R1a1a*

7 R1b: 2 R1b1b2a, 1 R1b1b2a1a, 1 R1b1b2a1a1d1* and 3 R1b1b2a1a2f*

6 J2: 3 J2, 1 J2a1, 1 J2a1a and 1 J2a1e

5 E: 2 E1b1b1a4, 1 E1b1a8a1*, 1 E1b1b1c1a and 1 E1b1b1c1

3 G2a

3 J1: 1 J1 and 2 J1e

2 Q: 1 Q1 and 1 Q1b

1 L2a

mtDNA

23 H and HV: 5 H, 4 H1, 1 H14, 1 H15a, 1 H15b, 1 H16, 2 H2a1, 1 H36a, 1 H4a, 1 H5, 1 H5a1, 1 H6a, 1 H7 and 2 HV

10 T: 2 T, 5 T1a1, 1 T2, 1 T2a1 and 1 T2b

6 U: 1 U2e, 1 U5b1c, 1 U6a1b and 2 U7

6 J: 1 J1b and 5 J1c

3 I: 1 I1, 1 I1a1 and 1 I5a.

3 K: 1 K1a, 1 K1c1 and 1 K2a2a

3 M: 1 M39b, 1 M7b2 and 1 M6

2 W6

2 G2a

2 L3e

2 R0a1a

1 D1

1 N

1 V3

Caspian

01-12-2015, 12:36 AM

He's European American. He's L2a in 23andme.

I understand, so he belongs to L-M349. It is major subclade of L-M317.

jesus

01-12-2015, 12:55 AM

I understand, so he belongs to L-M349. It is major subclade of L-M317.

Thanks. His last name is German, and it's from Baden-Württemberg.

geebee

01-12-2015, 05:15 AM

I really think that for most people, the order will pretty much reflect the frequencies found in your region -- or the regions of your (relatively) recent ancestry.

For mtDNA my top 5 are:

H1 = 76

H = 72

T2b = 33

H3 = 27

V = 19

EDIT to add Y haplogroups:

R1b1b2a1a2f* = 84

R1b1b2a1a = 46

I1* = 37

I1 = 33

R1b1b2a1a1* = 25

Salkin

01-12-2015, 07:45 AM

I really think that for most people, the order will pretty much reflect the frequencies found in your region -- or the regions of your (relatively) recent ancestry.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Y-DNA I1 and various R1b subclades are about what I'd expect to dominate given my fully Swedish roots.

I think there were about three people who were G.

ADW_1981

01-12-2015, 02:30 PM

I think there were about three people who were G.

Yeah...that's about the total G's in the Swedish project as well :P

I was surprised that my I2b1 (I-M223) lineages were so numerous compared to other folks in this post. The frequency I get I2b1 relatives is about 1/2 as often as I get an I1 relative in Finder. However, when you look at the statistic these lineages comprise maybe 3-4% of west European men. It also appears there might be a recent I2b2 relative (the Urnfield lineage) on my mother's side by the frequency in which it keeps popping up.

Roaring

01-13-2015, 01:00 AM

How do you guys do it? Simply enter haplogroup in search or there is some more usable method?

Agamemnon

01-13-2015, 03:21 AM

Y-DNA:

1. E-M34 (135)

2. J1-P58 (133) [~90% Kohanim]

3. R1a-CTS6 [all of these guys are Levites, I might have a few Levite ancestors amongst my paternal ancestors] (106)

4. J2a-M67 (102)

5. R1b-L11 (101) or G2b1-M377 [old G2c] (53)

Note: I've got 9~10 G1* cousins, all Ashkenazim ;)

mtDNA:

1. K1a1b1a (303)

2. N1b2 (93)

3. K2a2a (72)

4. K1a9 (64)

5. HV1b2 (48)

16 most common surnames:

1. Cohen

2. Katz

3. Horowitz

4. Levin

5. Lifshitz

6. Finkelstein

7. Kaplan

8. Levine

9. Goldberg

10. Heffler

11. Rosenberg

12. Pollack

13. Rosenfeld

14. Rubin

15. Schwartz

16. Levy

Note: Surnames related to the Kohen caste are in blue, surnames related to the Levite caste are in red

Salkin

01-13-2015, 08:58 AM

How do you guys do it? Simply enter haplogroup in search or there is some more usable method?

In the opening post of the thread, there's a link to instructions (https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1axmHWQJVFnQxdnrLi1gMea0f31UT08DALGXr0Gv17O k&pli=1).

Varun R

01-14-2015, 01:30 AM

Y-DNA:

R1a1a/R1a1a* = 38

L1 = 12

J2 = 11

R2 = 10

H1= 9

MtDNA:

HV=11

U2a=11

M35a1=7

U2c=6

R6a,R=5

Other Y-Haplogroups:

G2a= 5

R1b1b2a1a and downstream= 4

G2a4, J2b2,Q1a3* = 3

F2= 2

H2= 1

C=1

I2b1*=1

Other MtDNA haplogroups:

U1a1, U1a3, M3a, U7 =4

M33, M35b, M3a1, M5a2a, R6a1a=3

U5a1a1, U2b2, M, M18, M2, M2a2, M3, M30, M40, M5d, R30a, R31b, R5a2, R5a2b, T2b, W1c=2

U2, U2b1, U2'3'4'7'8'9, U2e1, U2e, U1a'c, U4a1a, U4b1, U4b1a1, U4a2a, C4a, C4a1, H1, H13a2, H1a1, H2b, H6a1, H7, I4, J1b, J1b1a, J1c1, J5c5a, L2a1, M2a1, M2a1a2, M2a2a, M2b, M30b, M35b2, M39, M4-64, M49d, M4a, M5a1a, M5a2a1, M5c1, M64, N5, R2, T1a1, T2, T2d, T2f =1

10cM< matches only

mtDNA, n=81

8x(10%) K1a

6x(7%) HV

5x(6%) H

3x(4%) V, T2g, T2, J1d, HV8

2x(2%) X2, U8b, U7, U5a1a1, U1a1, J1b3, H13a2, H1, D4j

Y-DNA, n=44

13x(30%) R1b1b2a

4x(9%) E1b1b1c1a

3x(7%) R1a1a

2x(5%) R2, J2, J1, G2a5, G2a, E1b1b1a2, E1b1b1a4

1x(2%) T, R1b1b2a1a, R1b1b2, R1a, L2, L1, J2b1, J2a1b1, J2a1b, G2, E1b1b1a

All matches

mtDNA, n=180

13x(7%) H

11x(6%) K1a

8x(4%) HV

5x(3%) T2

4x(2%) V, U5a1a1, T2b, J1c2, H13a2

Y-DNA, n=109

22x(20%) R1b1b2a

9x(8%) R1a1a

8x(7%) J2

6x(6%) E1b1b1c1a

5x(5%) R1b1b2a1a2f

Roaring

01-15-2015, 10:13 PM

In the opening post of the thread, there's a link to instructions (https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1axmHWQJVFnQxdnrLi1gMea0f31UT08DALGXr0Gv17O k&pli=1).

Thanks, somehow i missed it.

maternal top 10:

U5a1 12

V 14

T1a1 15

J1c3 16

H1c 19

H5a1 20

H3 25

T2b 37

H 51

H1 63

Paternal:

R1a1a 76

N1c1* 48

R1b1b2a1a2f* 39

R1b1b2a1a 37

I1* 28

R1a1a* 27

E1b1b1a2* 23

I1 19

R1b1b2a1a1 14

Solothurn

01-16-2015, 06:12 AM

I want to update my list but when I tried to upload there is no option to convert the doc.

I just get "The file you selected was not a valid image file. Please select another file and try again."

Any advice is very welcome :)

Tomasso29

02-02-2015, 12:20 AM

Been a while so here's the latest update:

Y-DNA

#

Haplogroup

Percentage

[tr]

1

R1b1b2a

23%

2

J2a1b

15%

3

J1

9%

4

T

9%

5

E1b1b1c1a

8%

6

G2a

7%

7

R1b1b2a1a2f

6%

8

R1b1b2a1a1a

4%

9

R1a1a

4%

10

I1

2%

11

I2b1

2%

12

J1c3

2%

13

Q1a3

2%

14

G1

2%

15

I2a2

1%

16

J2a1e

1%

17

Q1b

1%

18

R2a

1%

19

R1b1b2a1a2d

1%

The top 6 haplogroups are pretty much the core haplogroups of the modern Assyrian people. Other than that I was pretty surprised with some of the deeper R1b lineages which seem to be most common in Europe, then again these relatives are quite distant so not much to take from this.

As for mtDNA, it's too much of a mess to put it together so I just counted my top 5:

1- HV (9%)

2- H (7%)

3- H14 (5%)

4- K1a (5%)

5- U1a (5%)

Tomasso29

02-02-2015, 12:54 AM

This is my first cousin's Y-DNA, the results are very interesting because the top-6 haplogroups are still the same as mine but you see a huge spike in haplogroup E1b1b1c1a which seems to be the most common in Assyrian (Chaldean) Catholics from northern Iraq. I'm only half Chaldean while he's full, so the results make sense.

#

Haplogroup

Percentage

1

E1b1b1c1a

22%

2

R1b1b2a

21%

3

J2a1b

15%

4

J1

9%

5

T

9%

6

G2a

7%

7

J1c3

5%

8

R1a1a

5%

9

I1

1%

10

I2a2b

1%

11

J2a1a

1%

12

J2a1e

1%

13

L2

1%

14

R1b1b2a1a1d1

1%

15

R2a

1%

Mellow

04-20-2015, 08:34 AM

mtDNA

H - 78

H1 - 39

J1c - 23

T1a1 - 13

H7 - 12

U5a1a1 - 11

H1c - 10

Y-DNA

E1b1b1a2*(E-V13) - 75

I2a2b - 44

R1a1a - 42

R1b1b2a - 23

J2b2* - 20

R1b1b2a1a2f* - 18

I1 - 18

thrax

04-26-2015, 07:31 AM

Y-DNA

R1a1a 65

E1b1b1a2 50

I1 29

J2 22

I2a2b 22

MT-DNA

H 77

H1 29

T2b 25

H1c 20

J1c 19

H7 18

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