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Leper
08-14-2019, 02:16 PM
These are the first non-academic Turkish samples on G25. In fact, the first non-academic fully ethnic Turkish samples on any calculator. Special thanks to Davidski.

We have sent him 41 Turkish samples from 5 different regions plus 3 samples of Azerbaijanian Turks from Turkey.

Labels of new samples on G25: (link:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bPt1Xqy0HwXpJFcug3vaC3MBqFTMvj5A/view)

Turkish_North

Turkish_Northwest

Turkish_South

Turkish_Southwest

Turkish_Central

Turkish_Azer

Here is the map of regions in case you wonder:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBdSOlgXUAUo6gQ?format=jpg&name=large

Kulin
08-14-2019, 07:16 PM
Maybe provide some Turkish_Balkan samples as well? Balkan Turks seem to not be well represented on most calculators.

Leper
08-14-2019, 07:17 PM
Maybe provide some Turkish_Balkan samples as well? Balkan Turks seem to not be well represented on most calculators.

We will. Still talking to Davidski about it. :)

eolien
08-15-2019, 12:22 PM
Are they averages? Don't you have individual results?

Leper
08-15-2019, 03:13 PM
Are they averages? Don't you have individual results?

They should be on the spreadsheet however the G25 page on Eurogenes blog is gone for some reason.

Onur Dincer
08-16-2019, 02:27 AM
They should be on the spreadsheet however the G25 page on Eurogenes blog is gone for some reason.

The new spreadsheet page is here:

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html

And here:

http://bga101.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25.html

Alkaevli
08-16-2019, 07:23 PM
PCA (Global K25 coordinates)

Red: Turkish DNA Project data
Blue: Hodoğlugil et al. data

https://abload.de/img/pca4zkfn.png
https://abload.de/img/pca4zkfn.png
https://abload.de/img/trdnaprojectztjmw.png

Global K25 closest single item distances (modern populations only):

Turkish_Northwest

Turkish_Northwest 0.00000000
Turkish_Southwest 0.01314837
Turkish_North 0.02141326
Turkish_South 0.02188038
Turkish_Central 0.03119358
Kabardin 0.05295695
Kumyk 0.05312325
Azeri 0.05420964
Abazin 0.05744706
Azeri_Dagestan 0.05844729
Karachay 0.05871264
Cherkes 0.05928416
Turkish_Azer 0.05933682
Circassian 0.05970691
Balkar 0.06407118
North_Ossetian 0.07407528
Adygei 0.07458337
Ingushian 0.07459082
Iranian_Fars 0.07477078
Ezid 0.07491977


Turkish_Central

Turkish_Central 0.00000000
Turkish_South 0.03030735
Azeri 0.03047283
Turkish_Northwest 0.03119358
Turkish_North 0.03224080
Turkish_Azer 0.03332620
Turkish_Southwest 0.03337477
Azeri_Dagestan 0.04217953
Kumyk 0.04920749
Ezid 0.05064115
Kabardin 0.05226894
Kurdish 0.05526791
Iranian_Fars 0.05560341
Karachay 0.05633354
Circassian 0.05686971
Iranian_Lor 0.05759951
Cherkes 0.05803579
Abazin 0.05860187
Iranian_Persian 0.05889652
Georgian_Jew 0.06077727


Turkish_Azer

Turkish_Azer 0.00000000
Azeri 0.01930993
Azeri_Dagestan 0.03114342
Ezid 0.03117702
Turkish_Central 0.03332620
Iranian_Lor 0.03438925
Iranian_Fars 0.03528120
Kurdish 0.03723727
Iranian_Zoroastrian 0.03993353
Iranian_Persian 0.04001525
Georgian_Jew 0.05045048
Turkish_South 0.05110234
Assyrian 0.05210681
Kumyk 0.05329706
Armenian 0.05352240
Iranian_Mazandarani 0.05407037
Turkish_North 0.05460704
Iranian_Jew 0.05597980
Kabardin 0.05865308
Turkish_Northwest 0.05933682


Greek_Central_Anatolia

Greek_Central_Anatolia 0.00000000
Cypriot 0.03250706
Turkish_Trabzon 0.03280552
Greek_Crete 0.03624248
Armenian 0.03722538
Greek_Trabzon 0.03834875
Druze 0.04121298
Syrian_Jew 0.04257114
Georgian_Jew 0.04290562
Lebanese_Druze 0.04348696
Assyrian 0.04533599
Romaniote_Jew 0.04588062
Armenian_Hemsheni 0.04819141
Lebanese_Christian 0.04902855
Lebanese_Muslim 0.05082885
Sephardic_Jew 0.05109254
Iranian_Jew 0.05305346
Italian_Jew 0.05317429
Iraqi_Jew 0.05345186
Italian_South 0.05474098


Armenian

Armenian 0.00000000
Assyrian 0.01819245
Georgian_Jew 0.02085092
Turkish_Trabzon 0.02178454
Greek_Trabzon 0.02443658
Armenian_Hemsheni 0.02678656
Iranian_Jew 0.03295358
Greek_Central_Anatolia 0.03722538
Iraqi_Jew 0.03829515
Georgian_Laz 0.04012515
Kurdish 0.04428091
Druze 0.04482123
Lebanese_Druze 0.04505727
Ezid 0.04825730
Lebanese_Muslim 0.05054256
Cypriot 0.05182011
Syrian_Jew 0.05343292
Turkish_Azer 0.05352240
Iranian_Lor 0.05409516
Syrian 0.05485894


Kurdish

Kurdish 0.00000000
Ezid 0.01628374
Iranian_Lor 0.01857587
Iranian_Zoroastrian 0.02373262
Iranian_Fars 0.02801572
Azeri 0.03271561
Iranian_Persian 0.03395372
Turkish_Azer 0.03723727
Assyrian 0.03813912
Georgian_Jew 0.03923341
Iranian_Mazandarani 0.03955547
Azeri_Dagestan 0.03985626
Armenian 0.04428091
Iranian_Jew 0.04482772
Armenian_Hemsheni 0.05376178
Turkish_Central 0.05526791
Turkish_Trabzon 0.05658044
Greek_Trabzon 0.05932953
Iraqi_Jew 0.06144513
Georgian_Laz 0.06154284

Onur Dincer
08-16-2019, 07:54 PM
PCA (Global K25 coordinates)

Red: Turkish DNA Project data
Blue: Hodoğlugil et al. data

https://abload.de/img/pca4zkfn.png
https://abload.de/img/pca4zkfn.png
https://abload.de/img/trdnaprojectztjmw.png

Global K25 closest single item distances (modern populations only):

Turkish_Northwest

Turkish_Northwest 0.00000000
Turkish_Southwest 0.01314837
Turkish_North 0.02141326
Turkish_South 0.02188038
Turkish_Central 0.03119358
Kabardin 0.05295695
Kumyk 0.05312325
Azeri 0.05420964
Abazin 0.05744706
Azeri_Dagestan 0.05844729
Karachay 0.05871264
Cherkes 0.05928416
Turkish_Azer 0.05933682
Circassian 0.05970691
Balkar 0.06407118
North_Ossetian 0.07407528
Adygei 0.07458337
Ingushian 0.07459082
Iranian_Fars 0.07477078
Ezid 0.07491977


Turkish_Central

Turkish_Central 0.00000000
Turkish_South 0.03030735
Azeri 0.03047283
Turkish_Northwest 0.03119358
Turkish_North 0.03224080
Turkish_Azer 0.03332620
Turkish_Southwest 0.03337477
Azeri_Dagestan 0.04217953
Kumyk 0.04920749
Ezid 0.05064115
Kabardin 0.05226894
Kurdish 0.05526791
Iranian_Fars 0.05560341
Karachay 0.05633354
Circassian 0.05686971
Iranian_Lor 0.05759951
Cherkes 0.05803579
Abazin 0.05860187
Iranian_Persian 0.05889652
Georgian_Jew 0.06077727


Turkish_Azer

Turkish_Azer 0.00000000
Azeri 0.01930993
Azeri_Dagestan 0.03114342
Ezid 0.03117702
Turkish_Central 0.03332620
Iranian_Lor 0.03438925
Iranian_Fars 0.03528120
Kurdish 0.03723727
Iranian_Zoroastrian 0.03993353
Iranian_Persian 0.04001525
Georgian_Jew 0.05045048
Turkish_South 0.05110234
Assyrian 0.05210681
Kumyk 0.05329706
Armenian 0.05352240
Iranian_Mazandarani 0.05407037
Turkish_North 0.05460704
Iranian_Jew 0.05597980
Kabardin 0.05865308
Turkish_Northwest 0.05933682


Greek_Central_Anatolia

Greek_Central_Anatolia 0.00000000
Cypriot 0.03250706
Turkish_Trabzon 0.03280552
Greek_Crete 0.03624248
Armenian 0.03722538
Greek_Trabzon 0.03834875
Druze 0.04121298
Syrian_Jew 0.04257114
Georgian_Jew 0.04290562
Lebanese_Druze 0.04348696
Assyrian 0.04533599
Romaniote_Jew 0.04588062
Armenian_Hemsheni 0.04819141
Lebanese_Christian 0.04902855
Lebanese_Muslim 0.05082885
Sephardic_Jew 0.05109254
Iranian_Jew 0.05305346
Italian_Jew 0.05317429
Iraqi_Jew 0.05345186
Italian_South 0.05474098


Armenian

Armenian 0.00000000
Assyrian 0.01819245
Georgian_Jew 0.02085092
Turkish_Trabzon 0.02178454
Greek_Trabzon 0.02443658
Armenian_Hemsheni 0.02678656
Iranian_Jew 0.03295358
Greek_Central_Anatolia 0.03722538
Iraqi_Jew 0.03829515
Georgian_Laz 0.04012515
Kurdish 0.04428091
Druze 0.04482123
Lebanese_Druze 0.04505727
Ezid 0.04825730
Lebanese_Muslim 0.05054256
Cypriot 0.05182011
Syrian_Jew 0.05343292
Turkish_Azer 0.05352240
Iranian_Lor 0.05409516
Syrian 0.05485894


Kurdish

Kurdish 0.00000000
Ezid 0.01628374
Iranian_Lor 0.01857587
Iranian_Zoroastrian 0.02373262
Iranian_Fars 0.02801572
Azeri 0.03271561
Iranian_Persian 0.03395372
Turkish_Azer 0.03723727
Assyrian 0.03813912
Georgian_Jew 0.03923341
Iranian_Mazandarani 0.03955547
Azeri_Dagestan 0.03985626
Armenian 0.04428091
Iranian_Jew 0.04482772
Armenian_Hemsheni 0.05376178
Turkish_Central 0.05526791
Turkish_Trabzon 0.05658044
Greek_Trabzon 0.05932953
Iraqi_Jew 0.06144513
Georgian_Laz 0.06154284

Is this "Anatolia_Ottoman" on your PCA only the Anatolia_Ottoman:MA2195 sample (the one seeming to be an Oghuz/Turcoman with no native Anatolian admixture), or the average of the two Anatolia_Ottoman samples? If it is the latter, then I should state that Anatolia_Ottoman:MA2196, the second of the Anatolia_Ottoman samples, is already highly admixed with Anatolian natives, so the Anatolia_Ottoman average would not be representative of the Oghuz/Turcoman incomers with no native Anatolian admixture.

Also, it would be better if you made your Global 25 closest single population distances lists with 50 populations rather than 20 because small populations such as various Jewish groups take a lot of space in those lists.

Alkaevli
08-16-2019, 08:43 PM
Is this "Anatolia_Ottoman" on your PCA only the Anatolia_Ottoman:MA2195 sample (the one seeming to be an Oghuz/Turcoman with no native Anatolian admixture) or the average of the two Anatolia_Ottoman samples? If it is the latter, then I should state that Anatolia_Ottoman:MA2196, the second of the Anatolia_Ottoman samples, is already highly admixed with Anatolian natives, so the Anatolia_Ottoman average would not be representative of the Oghuz/Turcoman incomers with no native Anatolian admixture.
I know. That's the average of the two Anatolia_Ottoman samples from the datasheet. That dot wasn't supposed to represent Oghuz/Turcoman incomers though, I just wanted to see the East Eurasian direction on the PCA.

Here is a new PCA with Medieval Turkic samples.
https://abload.de/img/pcac7k7v.png
https://abload.de/img/pcac7k7v.png




Also, it would be better if you made your Global 25 closest single population distances lists with 50 populations rather than 20 because small populations such as various Jewish groups take a lot of space in those lists.
I will do that.

Johnny ola
08-16-2019, 08:51 PM
I know. That's the average of the two Anatolia_Ottoman samples from the datasheet. That dot wasn't supposed to represent Oghuz/Turcoman incomers though, I just wanted to see the East Eurasian direction on the PCA.

Here is a new PCA with Medieval Turkic samples.
https://abload.de/img/pcac7k7v.png
https://abload.de/img/pcac7k7v.png



I will do that.

Create some space buddy.I need to PM you..:)

Onur Dincer
08-16-2019, 11:16 PM
I know. That's the average of the two Anatolia_Ottoman samples from the datasheet. That dot wasn't supposed to represent Oghuz/Turcoman incomers though, I just wanted to see the East Eurasian direction on the PCA.

Here is a new PCA with Medieval Turkic samples.
https://abload.de/img/pcac7k7v.png
https://abload.de/img/pcac7k7v.png



I will do that.

Can you also add the Cypriot and Greek_Crete averages to this PCA to roughly represent the western Anatolian Greeks of the Byzantine times?

Alkaevli
08-18-2019, 10:18 PM
https://abload.de/img/pcaylk6s.png

Unlike admixture calculators, Global K25 seems to take into account the genetic distance between West Eurasians and East Eurasians, which affects the closest single item distances.

Closest single item distances (without Jewish and ancient populations):


Greek_Central_Anatolia 0.00000000
Cypriot 0.03250706
Turkish_Trabzon 0.03280552
Greek_Crete 0.03624248
Armenian 0.03722538
Greek_Trabzon 0.03834875
Druze 0.04121298
Lebanese_Druze 0.04348696
Assyrian 0.04533599
Armenian_Hemsheni 0.04819141
Lebanese_Christian 0.04902855
Lebanese_Muslim 0.05082885
Italian_South 0.05474098
Georgian_Laz 0.05660322
Sicilian_East 0.05852402
Syrian 0.06216716
Italian_Abruzzo 0.06305440
Maltese 0.06336809
Kurdish 0.06838644
Turkish_Central 0.06864475
Sicilian_West 0.06909097
Ezid 0.06945238
Turkish_Azer 0.07122217
Samaritan 0.07277500
Azeri 0.07542565
Greek 0.07872706
Iranian_Lor 0.07932428
Georgian_Imer 0.08053815
Azeri_Dagestan 0.08174958
Italian_Tuscan 0.08199001
Iranian_Zoroastrian 0.08554999
Albanian 0.08566385
Abkhasian 0.08574349
Palestinian 0.08806184
Iranian_Fars 0.08972637
Adygei 0.09000793
Kumyk 0.09200722
Turkish_Northwest 0.09254933
Swiss_Italian 0.09473844
Gagauz 0.09484042
Iranian_Persian 0.09492300
Turkish_Southwest 0.09539123
Ingushian 0.09641060
Kabardin 0.09650151
Turkish_South 0.09654969
Ossetian 0.09700864
Turkish_North 0.09751047
Circassian 0.09813292
Karachay 0.09975528
Cherkes 0.09983242


Turkish_Northwest 0.00000000
Turkish_Southwest 0.01314837
Turkish_North 0.02141326
Turkish_South 0.02188038
Turkish_Central 0.03119358
Kabardin 0.05295695
Kumyk 0.05312325
Azeri 0.05420964
Abazin 0.05744706
Azeri_Dagestan 0.05844729
Karachay 0.05871264
Cherkes 0.05928416
Turkish_Azer 0.05933682
Circassian 0.05970691
Balkar 0.06407118
North_Ossetian 0.07407528
Adygei 0.07458337
Ingushian 0.07459082
Iranian_Fars 0.07477078
Ezid 0.07491977
Iranian_Persian 0.07711505
Kurdish 0.08000600
Chechen 0.08036470
Iranian_Zoroastrian 0.08104178
Iranian_Lor 0.08164747
Ossetian 0.08167483
Tajik_Yagnobi 0.08229929
Roma 0.08536487
Tabasaran 0.08658912
Greek_Crete 0.08972171
Syrian 0.09055215
Greek_Central_Anatolia 0.09254933
Avar 0.09336765
Assyrian 0.09341344
Italian_South 0.09418012
Abkhasian 0.09432096
Armenian 0.09464247
Kaitag 0.09490801
Lebanese_Muslim 0.09517859
Turkish_Trabzon 0.09611342
Gagauz 0.09708373
Greek_Trabzon 0.09776894
Iranian_Mazandarani 0.09811937
Lak 0.09823971
Italian_Abruzzo 0.09866677
Tajik_Rushan 0.09890874
Maltese 0.09918856
Greek 0.09951305
Sicilian_East 0.09953547
Druze 0.09996208


Turkish_Central 0.00000000
Turkish_South 0.03030735
Azeri 0.03047283
Turkish_Northwest 0.03119358
Turkish_North 0.03224080
Turkish_Azer 0.03332620
Turkish_Southwest 0.03337477
Azeri_Dagestan 0.04217953
Kumyk 0.04920749
Ezid 0.05064115
Kabardin 0.05226894
Kurdish 0.05526791
Iranian_Fars 0.05560341
Karachay 0.05633354
Circassian 0.05686971
Iranian_Lor 0.05759951
Cherkes 0.05803579
Abazin 0.05860187
Iranian_Persian 0.05889652
Iranian_Zoroastrian 0.06094642
Balkar 0.06217473
Assyrian 0.06434429
Armenian 0.06540010
Adygei 0.06569604
Ingushian 0.06632741
Syrian 0.06644936
North_Ossetian 0.06780372
Greek_Central_Anatolia 0.06864475
Turkish_Trabzon 0.06875187
Ossetian 0.07045669
Greek_Trabzon 0.07055822
Lebanese_Muslim 0.07070787
Armenian_Hemsheni 0.07276045
Chechen 0.07352617
Greek_Crete 0.07448961
Druze 0.07465859
Lebanese_Druze 0.07471071
Georgian_Laz 0.07580257
Abkhasian 0.07697480
Cypriot 0.07863875
Iranian_Mazandarani 0.07883142
Italian_South 0.08277397
Tabasaran 0.08295894
Lebanese_Christian 0.08607435
Sicilian_East 0.08763666
Maltese 0.08836663
Georgian_Imer 0.08839295
Tajik_Yagnobi 0.08844182
Italian_Abruzzo 0.08987138
Avar 0.09048540

Alkaevli
08-18-2019, 10:18 PM
Create some space buddy.I need to PM you..:)
Done.

Onur Dincer
08-19-2019, 03:09 AM
https://abload.de/img/pcaylk6s.png

Unlike admixture calculators, Global K25 seems to take into account the genetic distance between West Eurasians and East Eurasians, which affects the closest single item distances.

Closest single item distances (without Jewish and ancient populations):


Greek_Central_Anatolia 0.00000000
Cypriot 0.03250706
Turkish_Trabzon 0.03280552
Greek_Crete 0.03624248
Armenian 0.03722538
Greek_Trabzon 0.03834875
Druze 0.04121298
Lebanese_Druze 0.04348696
Assyrian 0.04533599
Armenian_Hemsheni 0.04819141
Lebanese_Christian 0.04902855
Lebanese_Muslim 0.05082885
Italian_South 0.05474098
Georgian_Laz 0.05660322
Sicilian_East 0.05852402
Syrian 0.06216716
Italian_Abruzzo 0.06305440
Maltese 0.06336809
Kurdish 0.06838644
Turkish_Central 0.06864475
Sicilian_West 0.06909097
Ezid 0.06945238
Turkish_Azer 0.07122217
Samaritan 0.07277500
Azeri 0.07542565
Greek 0.07872706
Iranian_Lor 0.07932428
Georgian_Imer 0.08053815
Azeri_Dagestan 0.08174958
Italian_Tuscan 0.08199001
Iranian_Zoroastrian 0.08554999
Albanian 0.08566385
Abkhasian 0.08574349
Palestinian 0.08806184
Iranian_Fars 0.08972637
Adygei 0.09000793
Kumyk 0.09200722
Turkish_Northwest 0.09254933
Swiss_Italian 0.09473844
Gagauz 0.09484042
Iranian_Persian 0.09492300
Turkish_Southwest 0.09539123
Ingushian 0.09641060
Kabardin 0.09650151
Turkish_South 0.09654969
Ossetian 0.09700864
Turkish_North 0.09751047
Circassian 0.09813292
Karachay 0.09975528
Cherkes 0.09983242


Turkish_Northwest 0.00000000
Turkish_Southwest 0.01314837
Turkish_North 0.02141326
Turkish_South 0.02188038
Turkish_Central 0.03119358
Kabardin 0.05295695
Kumyk 0.05312325
Azeri 0.05420964
Abazin 0.05744706
Azeri_Dagestan 0.05844729
Karachay 0.05871264
Cherkes 0.05928416
Turkish_Azer 0.05933682
Circassian 0.05970691
Balkar 0.06407118
North_Ossetian 0.07407528
Adygei 0.07458337
Ingushian 0.07459082
Iranian_Fars 0.07477078
Ezid 0.07491977
Iranian_Persian 0.07711505
Kurdish 0.08000600
Chechen 0.08036470
Iranian_Zoroastrian 0.08104178
Iranian_Lor 0.08164747
Ossetian 0.08167483
Tajik_Yagnobi 0.08229929
Roma 0.08536487
Tabasaran 0.08658912
Greek_Crete 0.08972171
Syrian 0.09055215
Greek_Central_Anatolia 0.09254933
Avar 0.09336765
Assyrian 0.09341344
Italian_South 0.09418012
Abkhasian 0.09432096
Armenian 0.09464247
Kaitag 0.09490801
Lebanese_Muslim 0.09517859
Turkish_Trabzon 0.09611342
Gagauz 0.09708373
Greek_Trabzon 0.09776894
Iranian_Mazandarani 0.09811937
Lak 0.09823971
Italian_Abruzzo 0.09866677
Tajik_Rushan 0.09890874
Maltese 0.09918856
Greek 0.09951305
Sicilian_East 0.09953547
Druze 0.09996208


Turkish_Central 0.00000000
Turkish_South 0.03030735
Azeri 0.03047283
Turkish_Northwest 0.03119358
Turkish_North 0.03224080
Turkish_Azer 0.03332620
Turkish_Southwest 0.03337477
Azeri_Dagestan 0.04217953
Kumyk 0.04920749
Ezid 0.05064115
Kabardin 0.05226894
Kurdish 0.05526791
Iranian_Fars 0.05560341
Karachay 0.05633354
Circassian 0.05686971
Iranian_Lor 0.05759951
Cherkes 0.05803579
Abazin 0.05860187
Iranian_Persian 0.05889652
Iranian_Zoroastrian 0.06094642
Balkar 0.06217473
Assyrian 0.06434429
Armenian 0.06540010
Adygei 0.06569604
Ingushian 0.06632741
Syrian 0.06644936
North_Ossetian 0.06780372
Greek_Central_Anatolia 0.06864475
Turkish_Trabzon 0.06875187
Ossetian 0.07045669
Greek_Trabzon 0.07055822
Lebanese_Muslim 0.07070787
Armenian_Hemsheni 0.07276045
Chechen 0.07352617
Greek_Crete 0.07448961
Druze 0.07465859
Lebanese_Druze 0.07471071
Georgian_Laz 0.07580257
Abkhasian 0.07697480
Cypriot 0.07863875
Iranian_Mazandarani 0.07883142
Italian_South 0.08277397
Tabasaran 0.08295894
Lebanese_Christian 0.08607435
Sicilian_East 0.08763666
Maltese 0.08836663
Georgian_Imer 0.08839295
Tajik_Yagnobi 0.08844182
Italian_Abruzzo 0.08987138
Avar 0.09048540

Thanks for the PCA and the lists. I guess Byzantine western Anatolian Greeks would be positioned somewhere between modern Cypriots and Cretans but closer to Cypriots due to almost lacking any Slavic admixture.


Unlike admixture calculators, Global K25 seems to take into account the genetic distance between West Eurasians and East Eurasians, which affects the closest single item distances.

Other admixture calculators also take into account the West Eurasian and East Eurasian genetic distances, but because that many of them include many more West Eurasian samples than East Eurasian samples, their East Eurasian pull on East Eurasian-admixed populations may be weaker than in your Global 25 analysis. When we look at Anatolian Turks, we see that their West Eurasian ancestry, which makes up the bulk of their ancestry, is indeed most like their immediate neighbors in and around Anatolia. So in calculators or analyses in which the East Eurasian pull does not exist or is weak, Anatolian Turks are positioned very close to their non-Turkic admixed neighbors such as Anatolian Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Georgians, etc. But when the East Eurasian pull of the calculator or analysis is strong, as in your Global 25 analysis, Anatolian Turks are positioned close to North Caucasus populations with similarly minor East Eurasian or any other eastern-pulling ancestry despite the fact that Anatolian Turks are not so close to North Caucasus populations in their West Eurasian and thus the bulk of their ancestry.

Alkaevli
08-19-2019, 06:58 PM
Other admixture calculators also take into account the West Eurasian and East Eurasian genetic distances, but because that many of them include many more West Eurasian samples than East Eurasian samples, their East Eurasian pull on East Eurasian-admixed populations may be weaker than in your Global 25 analysis.
Do the calculators on GEDmatch take into account the FST distances between the components? As far as I know, they don't. The PCAs that focus on West Eurasia are also misleading when it comes to the position of the Turkish samples because the East Eurasian pull is too weak on those PCAs.



When we look at Anatolian Turks, we see that their West Eurasian ancestry, which makes up the bulk of their ancestry, is indeed most like their immediate neighbors in and around Anatolia. So in calculators or analyses in which the East Eurasian pull does not exist or is weak, Anatolian Turks are positioned very close to their non-Turkic admixed neighbors such as Anatolian Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Georgians, etc. But when the East Eurasian pull of the calculator or analysis is strong, as in your Global 25 analysis, Anatolian Turks are positioned close to North Caucasus populations with similarly minor East Eurasian or any other eastern-pulling ancestry despite the fact that Anatolian Turks are not so close to North Caucasus populations in their West Eurasian and thus the bulk of their ancestry.There is one more thing. The West Eurasian ancestry of the Medieval Turkic samples is quite different than those of Anatolian Greeks and Armenians. The Medieval Turkic samples have more EHG and less Anatolia_Neolithic related ancestry, which makes Anatolian Turks (who descend partly from them) plot even closer to North Caucasus populations. Even if we were able to remove the East Eurasian admixture, there would still be a considerable difference between Anatolian Greeks and Turks.

MDLP World is my favorite calculator on GEDmatch as its components are highly compatible with ancient populations. Caucasus_Parsia is basically CHG while North_and_East_European represents the EHG ancestry in West Asian populations (it represents EHG + WHG in Europe). The rest of the West Eurasian components are Anatolia_Neolithic and Natufian-related.
https://abload.de/img/mdlpworld0snj4v.png
https://abload.de/img/mdlpworldsbj26.png


Turk_Northwest without East Eurasian admixture
"%73 Greek_Crete + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,652726"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 4,330439
2. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 6,438018
3. Greek_Cappadocia @ 10,333222
4. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 10,781461
5. Greek_Crete @ 11,832037
6. Greek_Chios @ 12,186669
7. Greek_Dodecanese @ 12,279616
8. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,427235
9. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 14,216449
10. Karachay @ 14,588575
11. Azerbaijani @ 14,664935
12. Greek_Cyprus @ 15,444189
13. Alan:DA162 @ 15,516476
14. Jew_Romania @ 15,697969
15. Balkar @ 15,747574
16. Circassian @ 16,118236
17. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 16,270557
18. Alan:DA243 @ 16,61984
19. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 16,694566
20. Greek_Pontus @ 16,990732


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %50 Albanian_North + %50 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,286691
2. %51 Greek_Thessaly + %49 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,342995
3. %75 Armenian_West + %25 Swedish_V @ 1,396379
4. %74 Armenian_West + %26 Sorb @ 1,523399
5. %41 Albanian_North + %59 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,57986
6. %42 Albanian_North + %58 Zaza @ 1,591362
7. %27 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %73 Armenian_West @ 1,598428
8. %73 Armenian_West + %27 Slovakian @ 1,601136
9. %42 Albanian_Kosovo + %58 Zaza @ 1,602842
10. %73 Greek_Crete + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,652726
11. %75 Armenian_West + %25 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 @ 1,676055
12. %53 Albanian_South + %47 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,676449
13. %49 Albanian_Kosovo + %51 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,69877
14. %75 Armenian_West + %25 Belarusian_V @ 1,711465
15. %65 Greek_Peloponnese + %35 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,71874
16. %51 Greek_Peloponnese + %49 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 1,748746
17. %41 Albanian_Kosovo + %59 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,752293
18. %56 Greek_Peloponnese + %44 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,757178
19. %44 Albanian_South + %56 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,783491
20. %72 Armenian_West + %28 German @ 1,792322


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %71 Armenian_West + %22 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %7 Roma_Balkans @ 0,494349
2. %71 Armenian_West + %5 Roma_Balkans + %24 Sorb @ 0,640148
3. %54 Armenian_West + %6 Kalash + %40 Pomak @ 0,671279
4. %74 Armenian_West + %2 Indian + %24 Swedish_V @ 0,70424
5. %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %15 Lithuanian_V + %19 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,710405
6. %71 Armenian_West + %2 Indian + %27 Slovakian @ 0,725347
7. %16 Belarusian + %65 Greek_Cappadocia + %19 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,743431
8. %74 Armenian_West + %24 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %2 Indian @ 0,757222
9. %21 Belarusian + %71 Greek_Pontus + %8 Roma_Balkans @ 0,795792
10. %72 Armenian_West + %5 Roma_Balkans + %23 Swedish_V @ 0,800936
11. %55 Armenian_West + %37 Pomak + %8 Tajik_Pamiri_Ishkashim @ 0,809043
12. %54 Armenian_West + %37 Pomak + %9 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 0,825713
13. %45 Iran_Chalcolithic + %21 Lithuanian_V + %34 Minoan_Lasithi_Bronze_Age @ 0,828256
14. %55 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %24 Minoan_Lasithi_Bronze_Age + %21 Swedish_V @ 0,853089
15. %22 Belarusian + %44 Iran_Chalcolithic + %34 Minoan_Lasithi_Bronze_Age @ 0,862693
16. %55 Armenian_West + %37 Pomak + %8 Tajik_Pamiri_Shugnan @ 0,872367
17. %79 Greek_Cappadocia + %9 Kalash + %12 Latvian @ 0,883991
18. %54 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %23 Minoan_Lasithi_Bronze_Age + %23 Slovakian @ 0,886563
19. %73 Armenian_West + %2 Indian + %25 Sorb @ 0,892265
20. %27 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %71 Armenian_West + %2 Indian @ 0,928119


Turk_Southwest without East Eurasian admixture
"%73 Greek_Dodecanese + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,691073"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 5,651576
2. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,861252
3. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 8,734179
4. Greek_Dodecanese @ 11,695177
5. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 12,076995
6. Greek_Crete @ 12,384309
7. Azerbaijani @ 12,571226
8. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,831936
9. Greek_Chios @ 12,857111
10. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 13,356943
11. Greek_Pontus @ 13,740152
12. Greek_Cyprus @ 13,741418
13. Armenian_West @ 13,853793
14. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 13,912269
15. Karachay @ 14,347122
16. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 14,433084
17. Turkmen_Iraq @ 14,758117
18. Zaza @ 14,777697
19. Alan:DA162 @ 15,087472
20. Balkar @ 15,132564


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %42 Greek_Peloponnese + %58 Zaza @ 1,247438
2. %65 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %35 Portugese @ 1,287102
3. %38 Albanian_South + %62 Zaza @ 1,292677
4. %22 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %78 Armenian_West @ 1,376971
5. %80 Armenian_West + %20 Swedish_V @ 1,460164
6. %37 Greek_Thessaly + %63 Zaza @ 1,496796
7. %78 Armenian_West + %22 German_North @ 1,613274
8. %78 Armenian_West + %22 Czech @ 1,654152
9. %79 Armenian_West + %21 Swedish @ 1,654226
10. %78 Armenian_West + %22 Slovakian @ 1,655899
11. %60 Greek_Peloponnese + %40 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,656951
12. %78 Armenian_West + %22 German @ 1,673064
13. %36 Albanian_North + %64 Zaza @ 1,690375
14. %73 Greek_Dodecanese + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,691073
15. %79 Armenian_West + %21 Norwegian_V @ 1,725289
16. %38 Corsican + %62 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,768536
17. %77 Armenian_West + %23 Slovenian @ 1,816303
18. %79 Armenian_West + %21 Sorb @ 1,839823
19. %46 Greek_Thessaly + %54 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,871727
20. %76 Armenian_West + %24 Hungarian @ 1,884039


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %71 Armenian_West + %25 Croat + %4 Sindhi @ 0,430922
2. %70 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %4 Sindhi @ 0,43474
3. %22 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %76 Armenian_West + %2 Jew_India @ 0,528351
4. %75 Armenian_West + %22 German_North + %3 Jew_India @ 0,557396
5. %70 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %4 Pathan @ 0,562133
6. %76 Armenian_West + %3 Jew_India + %21 Swedish @ 0,575441
7. %77 Armenian_West + %21 German_North + %2 Indian @ 0,578929
8. %21 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %77 Armenian_West + %2 Indian @ 0,629608
9. %62 Armenian_West + %33 Bulgarian + %5 Kalash @ 0,631287
10. %62 Armenian_West + %5 Kalash + %33 Pomak @ 0,635008
11. %78 Armenian_West + %2 Indian + %20 Swedish @ 0,657244
12. %70 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %4 Burusho @ 0,694892
13. %57 Greek_Ikaria + %33 Iran_Chalcolithic + %10 Sorb @ 0,702652
14. %63 Armenian_West + %5 Kalash + %32 Romanian_South @ 0,718621
15. %77 Armenian_West + %2 Indian + %21 Norwegian_V @ 0,747046
16. %70 Greek_Cappadocia + %10 Lithuanian_V + %20 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,751518
17. %69 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %11 Polish @ 0,753751
18. %67 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran + %12 Sorb @ 0,754362
19. %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran + %13 Ukrainian_West @ 0,765293
20. %68 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %12 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,77287


Turk_West_Black_Sea without East Eurasian admixture
"%73 Greek_Dodecanese + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,729651"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 4,928195
2. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 8,134722
3. Greek_Cappadocia @ 8,444056
4. Greek_Dodecanese @ 11,933264
5. Greek_Crete @ 12,34366
6. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 12,591164
7. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12,763829
8. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,775352
9. Greek_Chios @ 12,783244
10. Azerbaijani @ 13,068064
11. Karachay @ 14,140845
12. Greek_Cyprus @ 14,338828
13. Greek_Pontus @ 14,458774
14. Armenian_West @ 14,64409
15. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 14,7583
16. Alan:DA162 @ 14,777618
17. Balkar @ 14,975776
18. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 14,99897
19. Circassian @ 15,20001
20. Zaza @ 15,370013


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %64 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %36 Portugese @ 1,144875
2. %61 Greek_Peloponnese + %39 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,145788
3. %47 Greek_Thessaly + %53 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,257923
4. %23 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %77 Armenian_West @ 1,263643
5. %49 Albanian_South + %51 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,30477
6. %79 Armenian_West + %21 Swedish_V @ 1,360832
7. %40 Albanian_South + %60 Zaza @ 1,370281
8. %43 Greek_Peloponnese + %57 Zaza @ 1,52324
9. %77 Armenian_West + %23 German_North @ 1,528852
10. %37 Albanian_North + %63 Zaza @ 1,535771
11. %52 Greek_Peloponnese + %48 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,562682
12. %66 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %34 Spaniard @ 1,57893
13. %78 Armenian_West + %22 Swedish @ 1,588612
14. %77 Armenian_West + %23 Slovakian @ 1,612209
15. %76 Armenian_West + %24 German @ 1,613196
16. %77 Armenian_West + %23 Norwegian_V @ 1,617918
17. %38 Greek_Thessaly + %62 Zaza @ 1,658822
18. %76 Armenian_West + %24 Czech @ 1,687991
19. %73 Greek_Dodecanese + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,729651
20. %78 Armenian_West + %22 Sorb @ 1,757286


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %59 Armenian_West + %35 Bulgarian + %6 Kalash @ 0,562172
2. %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran + %13 Polish_V @ 0,64994
3. %59 Armenian_West + %6 Kalash + %35 Pomak @ 0,664988
4. %72 Armenian_West + %23 Slovenian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Ishkashim @ 0,673875
5. %72 Armenian_West + %23 Slovenian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 0,68647
6. %72 Armenian_West + %23 Slovenian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Shugnan @ 0,686643
7. %13 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %65 Greek_Cappadocia + %22 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,694998
8. %17 Belarusian + %75 Greek_Pontus + %8 Roma_Balkans @ 0,705668
9. %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran + %13 Sorb @ 0,714867
10. %65 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran + %14 Ukrainian_West @ 0,717069
11. %76 Greek_Pontus + %17 Lithuanian_V + %7 Roma_Balkans @ 0,728063
12. %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %14 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,731334
13. %69 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Ishkashim @ 0,736127
14. %13 Belarusian_V + %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,738622
15. %23 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %76 Armenian_West + %1 Indian @ 0,751631
16. %67 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %13 Ukrainian_East @ 0,754397
17. %68 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %12 Polish @ 0,768402
18. %67 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %13 Ukrainian @ 0,786416
19. %69 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Shugnan @ 0,787675
20. %69 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 0,800051


Turk_Central_Black_Sea without East Eurasian admixture
"%86 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian + %4 Pashtun_Afghanistan @ 0,616406"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,764856
2. Greek_Pontus @ 8,564748
3. Armenian_West @ 8,683716
4. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 9,049171
5. Azerbaijani @ 9,407157
6. Turk_Ahiska @ 10,204599
7. Zaza @ 10,223749
8. Greek_Azov @ 10,252364
9. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 10,484647
10. Turkmen_Iraq @ 10,832014
11. Laz @ 10,992293
12. Assyrian @ 11,923293
13. Kurd_Sorani @ 12,50851
14. Talysh @ 12,514864
15. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 12,541826
16. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,578343
17. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 12,60581
18. Circassian @ 13,759056
19. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13,938247
20. Balkar @ 14,055034


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %60 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %40 Italian_South @ 1,019303
2. %34 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %66 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,091729
3. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Sintashta @ 1,172406
4. %60 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %40 Italian_Center @ 1,216304
5. %48 Iran_Chalcolithic + %52 Italian_Center @ 1,451536
6. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Inkeri @ 1,527683
7. %11 Finnish_South + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,533829
8. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Karelian @ 1,589767
9. %11 Finnish + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,59049
10. %11 Estonian + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,607813
11. %87 Greek_Pontus + %13 Mordovian @ 1,612835
12. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Vepsa @ 1,627018
13. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Latvian @ 1,640476
14. %15 Andronovo + %85 Armenian_West @ 1,651158
15. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_North @ 1,654642
16. %10 Finnish_North + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,697502
17. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Lithuanian @ 1,722491
18. %47 Alan:DA162 + %53 Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 1,753308
19. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Russian @ 1,807277
20. %15 Andronovo + %85 Greek_Pontus @ 1,81675


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %87 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian + %3 Sindhi @ 0,499982
2. %4 Balochi + %11 Belarusian + %85 Greek_Pontus @ 0,51844
3. %80 Armenian_West + %9 Avar + %11 German_North @ 0,532405
4. %80 Armenian_West + %9 Avar + %11 Norwegian_V @ 0,541791
5. %76 Armenian_West + %11 Avar + %13 Bosnian @ 0,555596
6. %78 Armenian_West + %11 Avar + %11 Slovenian @ 0,558327
7. %11 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %80 Armenian_West + %9 Avar @ 0,559981
8. %79 Armenian_West + %10 Avar + %11 Czech @ 0,563674
9. %87 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian + %3 Pathan @ 0,567095
10. %80 Armenian_West + %13 German_V + %7 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 0,573605
11. %78 Armenian_West + %11 Avar + %11 CEU_V @ 0,575491
12. %82 Armenian_West + %12 Norwegian_V + %6 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 0,582408
13. %77 Armenian_West + %11 Avar + %12 Croat @ 0,590889
14. %81 Armenian_West + %7 Tajik_Yagnobi + %12 Welsh @ 0,59908
15. %80 Armenian_West + %9 Avar + %11 Swedish @ 0,608131
16. %10 Estonian + %87 Greek_Pontus + %3 Sindhi @ 0,609594
17. %86 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian + %4 Pashtun_Afghanistan @ 0,616406
18. %81 Armenian_West + %12 CEU_V + %7 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 0,620895
19. %80 Armenian_West + %12 CEU + %8 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 0,626731
20. %72 Armenian_West + %13 Avar + %15 Pomak @ 0,631756


Turk_Central_West without East Eurasian admixture
"%82 Greek_Cappadocia + %18 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 1,827879"
"%68 Greek_Cappadocia + %7 Lithuanian + %25 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,619125"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,678861
2. Greek_Azov @ 8,097425
3. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 9,909703
4. Azerbaijani @ 10,355323
5. Armenian_West @ 11,261528
6. Greek_Pontus @ 11,289128
7. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 11,434407
8. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 11,881343
9. Zaza @ 12,067897
10. Turkmen_Iraq @ 12,199419
11. Turk_Ahiska @ 12,839288
12. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,882315
13. Greek_Dodecanese @ 13,106013
14. Laz @ 13,860533
15. Karachay @ 13,864122
16. Greek_Cyprus @ 13,89284
17. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 13,92399
18. Assyrian @ 14,024993
19. Kurd_Sorani @ 14,072559
20. Talysh @ 14,132923


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %33 Corsican + %67 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,451034
2. %55 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %45 Italian_Center @ 1,571614
3. %34 Greek_Peloponnese + %66 Zaza @ 1,6469
4. %34 Italian_Center + %66 Zaza @ 1,692567
5. %61 Iran_Medieval:I1955 + %39 Italian_Center @ 1,700743
6. %31 Albanian_South + %69 Zaza @ 1,726394
7. %39 Avar + %61 Greek_Cyprus @ 1,785111
8. %82 Armenian_West + %18 Sintashta @ 1,790082
9. %34 Italian_Center + %66 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,811292
10. %82 Greek_Cappadocia + %18 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 1,827879
11. %61 Greek_Chios + %39 Mazandarani_Iran @ 1,837934
12. %30 Greek_Thessaly + %70 Zaza @ 1,889824
13. %61 Greek_Crete + %39 Mazandarani_Iran @ 1,94097
14. %84 Armenian_West + %16 Swedish_V @ 1,951664
15. %18 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %82 Armenian_West @ 1,962664
16. %83 Armenian_West + %17 Sorb @ 1,980614
17. %42 Alan:DA243 + %58 Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 2,002788
18. %24 Corsican + %76 Zaza @ 2,006768
19. %84 Armenian_West + %16 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 @ 2,032537
20. %84 Armenian_West + %16 Belarusian_V @ 2,042156


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %78 Armenian_West + %17 German_North + %5 Pathan @ 0,459826
2. %79 Armenian_West + %5 Pathan + %16 Swedish @ 0,473798
3. %79 Armenian_West + %17 German_North + %4 Sindhi @ 0,479506
4. %68 Armenian_West + %6 Kalash + %26 Pomak @ 0,494586
5. %17 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %79 Armenian_West + %4 Pathan @ 0,526625
6. %78 Armenian_West + %17 Czech + %5 Pathan @ 0,54602
7. %73 Armenian_West + %6 Balochi + %21 Bosnian @ 0,553447
8. %17 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %79 Armenian_West + %4 Sindhi @ 0,563639
9. %80 Armenian_West + %4 Sindhi + %16 Swedish_V @ 0,567644
10. %80 Armenian_West + %4 Sindhi + %16 Swedish @ 0,587553
11. %67 Armenian_West + %27 Bulgarian + %6 Kalash @ 0,596564
12. %79 Armenian_West + %4 Burusho + %17 German_North @ 0,605628
13. %75 Armenian_West + %19 Croat + %6 Pathan @ 0,608216
14. %68 Greek_Cappadocia + %7 Lithuanian + %25 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,619125
15. %72 Armenian_West + %5 Kalash + %23 Romanian_North @ 0,620944
16. %74 Armenian_West + %21 Bosnian + %5 Kalash @ 0,631779
17. %77 Armenian_West + %5 Pathan + %18 Slovenian @ 0,633274
18. %17 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %79 Armenian_West + %4 Burusho @ 0,633391
19. %75 Armenian_West + %20 Croat + %5 Kalash @ 0,643871
20. %74 Armenian_West + %20 Bosnian + %6 Pathan @ 0,655379


Turk_Central_East without East Eurasian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 8,08587
2. Azerbaijani @ 8,421651
3. Armenian_West @ 8,632525
4. Greek_Cappadocia @ 8,654039
5. Greek_Pontus @ 8,960429
6. Zaza @ 9,208932
7. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 9,269283
8. Turkmen_Iraq @ 9,535486
9. Turk_Ahiska @ 10,304456
10. Greek_Azov @ 11,051779
11. Kurd_Sorani @ 11,275221
12. Assyrian @ 11,330326
13. Laz @ 11,332012
14. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 11,483762
15. Talysh @ 11,523368
16. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 11,88017
17. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,308075
18. Lur_Iran @ 13,123169
19. Circassian @ 13,868649
20. Karachay @ 14,102149


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %26 Italian_Center + %74 Zaza @ 1,345547
2. %62 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %38 Italian_South @ 1,356453
3. %62 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %38 Italian_Center @ 1,475873
4. %34 Greek_Ikaria + %66 Zaza @ 1,610344
5. %48 Greek_Ikaria + %52 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,670887
6. %26 Italian_South + %74 Zaza @ 1,686933
7. %40 Greek_Ikaria + %60 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 1,732023
8. %34 Greek_Chios + %66 Zaza @ 1,821934
9. %35 Greek_Crete + %65 Zaza @ 1,837315
10. %15 Andronovo + %85 Armenian_West @ 1,850441
11. %50 Iran_Chalcolithic + %50 Italian_Center @ 1,858832
12. %22 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %78 Zaza @ 1,876435
13. %40 Greek_Crete + %60 Talysh @ 1,922178
14. %39 Greek_Chios + %61 Talysh @ 1,922731
15. %68 Iran_Medieval:I1955 + %32 Sicilian @ 1,952768
16. %60 Greek_Ikaria + %40 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,955143
17. %61 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %39 Sicilian @ 1,961133
18. %40 Greek_Ikaria + %60 Talysh @ 1,970194
19. %61 Greek_Crete + %39 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,972471
20. %33 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %67 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,981321


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %13 German_North @ 0,365222
2. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %13 Swedish @ 0,406627
3. %13 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %80 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui @ 0,44402
4. %76 Armenian_West + %16 Bosnian + %8 Brahui @ 0,45636
5. %77 Armenian_West + %8 Brahui + %15 Croat @ 0,457678
6. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %13 German_North @ 0,458571
7. %83 Armenian_West + %11 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %6 Pathan @ 0,469534
8. %81 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %12 Swedish_V @ 0,470455
9. %78 Armenian_West + %8 Brahui + %14 Slovenian @ 0,475553
10. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %13 Slovakian @ 0,500557
11. %82 Armenian_West + %6 Balochi + %12 Swedish_V @ 0,503796
12. %79 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %14 Czech @ 0,503996
13. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %13 Norwegian_V @ 0,508213
14. %13 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %81 Armenian_West + %6 Balochi @ 0,520287
15. %83 Armenian_West + %4 Sindhi + %13 Sintashta @ 0,528984
16. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %13 Slovakian @ 0,553722
17. %81 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %12 Swedish @ 0,555644
18. %75 Armenian_West + %8 Brahui + %17 Serb @ 0,556198
19. %78 Armenian_West + %8 Brahui + %14 German_V @ 0,575331
20. %79 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %14 German @ 0,58095


Turk_East without East Eurasian
"%86 Armenian_West + %14 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 2,040194"
"%86 Armenian_West + %7 Kalash + %7 Sintashta @ 0,413725"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Zaza @ 5,932167
2. Armenian_West @ 6,078346
3. Greek_Pontus @ 6,642672
4. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 6,751993
5. Turk_Ahiska @ 6,924089
6. Turkmen_Iraq @ 7,126521
7. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 7,174921
8. Azerbaijani @ 7,243659
9. Laz @ 7,932899
10. Kurd_Sorani @ 8,299048
11. Talysh @ 8,492844
12. Assyrian @ 8,839654
13. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 8,90409
14. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 8,987647
15. Lur_Iran @ 10,030562
16. Greek_Cappadocia @ 11,277722
17. Georgian_Chveneburi @ 11,506076
18. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 11,681991
19. Jew_Azerbaijan @ 12,065263
20. Jew_Uzbekistan @ 12,387077


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %51 Greek_Ikaria + %49 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 0,96046
2. %83 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %17 Sardinian @ 1,097483
3. %73 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %27 Mycenaean_Bronze_Age @ 1,151021
4. %61 Greek_Cappadocia + %39 Mazandarani_Iran @ 1,397843
5. %56 Iran_Chalcolithic + %44 Sicilian @ 1,457227
6. %34 Greek_Cappadocia + %66 Zaza @ 1,507015
7. %83 Armenian_West + %17 Kangju:DA206 @ 1,584736
8. %57 Iran_Chalcolithic + %43 Italian_South @ 1,652102
9. %21 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %79 Zaza @ 1,675154
10. %43 Greek_Cappadocia + %57 Talysh @ 1,723259
11. %26 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %74 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,750705
12. %52 Greek_Crete + %48 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,788169
13. %21 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %79 Zaza @ 1,901959
14. %51 Greek_Chios + %49 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,926006
15. %70 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %30 Italian_South @ 1,929561
16. %57 Iran_Chalcolithic + %43 Italian_Center @ 1,948558
17. %22 Anatolia_Bronze_Age + %78 Zaza @ 1,991621
18. %14 Mycenaean_Bronze_Age + %86 Zaza @ 1,992129
19. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Sarmatian:I0575 @ 2,013005
20. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 2,040194


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %86 Armenian_West + %6 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %8 Kalash @ 0,357375
2. %69 Armenian_West + %8 German_V + %23 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,363964
3. %69 Armenian_West + %8 CEU + %23 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,388397
4. %69 Armenian_West + %8 CEU_V + %23 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,390031
5. %69 Armenian_West + %23 Mazandarani_Iran + %8 Welsh @ 0,39614
6. %69 Armenian_West + %8 British + %23 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,410512
7. %69 Armenian_West + %8 Austrian + %23 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,410721
8. %86 Armenian_West + %7 Kalash + %7 Sintashta @ 0,413725
9. %86 Armenian_West + %8 Kalash + %6 Sorb @ 0,417277
10. %86 Armenian_West + %8 Kalash + %6 Swedish_V @ 0,430237
11. %86 Armenian_West + %8 Kalash + %6 Polish_V @ 0,44955
12. %69 Armenian_West + %23 Mazandarani_Iran + %8 Orcadian @ 0,452211
13. %83 Armenian_West + %9 Kalash + %8 Serb @ 0,456788
14. %86 Armenian_West + %6 Belarusian_V + %8 Kalash @ 0,458955
15. %70 Armenian_West + %22 Mazandarani_Iran + %8 Slovenian @ 0,460651
16. %71 Armenian_West + %22 Mazandarani_Iran + %7 Norwegian_V @ 0,488493
17. %83 Armenian_West + %8 Bosnian + %9 Kalash @ 0,513059
18. %85 Armenian_West + %9 Kalash + %6 Swedish @ 0,518124
19. %83 Armenian_West + %8 Croat + %9 Kalash @ 0,523515
20. %84 Armenian_West + %7 Hungarian + %9 Kalash @ 0,530472


Turk_South without East Eurasian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 8,063157
2. Azerbaijani @ 8,382733
3. Greek_Cappadocia @ 9,00542
4. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 9,291126
5. Armenian_West @ 9,461918
6. Zaza @ 9,471886
7. Turkmen_Iraq @ 9,557558
8. Greek_Pontus @ 9,975945
9. Greek_Azov @ 10,773904
10. Turk_Ahiska @ 11,120864
11. Kurd_Sorani @ 11,348816
12. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 11,543058
13. Talysh @ 11,731036
14. Assyrian @ 11,772464
15. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 12,095464
16. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,314516
17. Laz @ 12,347076
18. Lur_Iran @ 13,22161
19. Karachay @ 13,930377
20. Circassian @ 13,939693


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %27 Italian_Center + %73 Zaza @ 1,482509
2. %40 Greek_Chios + %60 Talysh @ 1,588322
3. %35 Greek_Ikaria + %65 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,605294
4. %26 Greek_Peloponnese + %74 Zaza @ 1,62557
5. %41 Greek_Crete + %59 Talysh @ 1,626359
6. %27 Italian_Center + %73 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,636264
7. %35 Greek_Chios + %65 Zaza @ 1,731905
8. %54 Greek_Chios + %46 Mazandarani_Iran @ 1,755458
9. %55 Greek_Crete + %45 Mazandarani_Iran @ 1,755979
10. %35 Greek_Crete + %65 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,76869
11. %35 Greek_Chios + %65 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,773244
12. %36 Greek_Crete + %64 Zaza @ 1,774583
13. %30 Jew_Romania + %70 Zaza @ 1,788313
14. %46 Iran_Chalcolithic + %54 Jew_Romania @ 1,796746
15. %26 Italian_South + %74 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,81327
16. %36 Avar + %64 Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 1,832962
17. %61 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %39 Italian_Center @ 1,871477
18. %41 Greek_Ikaria + %59 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 1,878429
19. %24 Albanian_South + %76 Zaza @ 1,90601
20. %35 Greek_Ikaria + %65 Zaza @ 1,909965


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %82 Armenian_West + %5 Sindhi + %13 Ukrainian_East @ 0,477247
2. %82 Armenian_West + %13 Russian_South + %5 Sindhi @ 0,522832
3. %83 Armenian_West + %12 Polish + %5 Sindhi @ 0,533069
4. %78 Armenian_West + %8 Makrani + %14 Slovakian @ 0,534452
5. %82 Armenian_West + %5 Sindhi + %13 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,549581
6. %82 Armenian_West + %5 Sindhi + %13 Ukrainian @ 0,550462
7. %82 Armenian_West + %13 Russian_Cossack + %5 Sindhi @ 0,581004
8. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %13 Sorb @ 0,581115
9. %83 Armenian_West + %12 Russian + %5 Sindhi @ 0,583501
10. %80 Armenian_West + %6 Sindhi + %14 Ukrainian_West @ 0,584949
11. %83 Armenian_West + %12 Russian_Center + %5 Sindhi @ 0,595243
12. %73 Armenian_West + %9 Makrani + %18 Serb @ 0,595535
13. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Makrani + %13 Sorb @ 0,598199
14. %79 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %14 Ukrainian_West @ 0,606316
15. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %13 Belarusian_V @ 0,612288
16. %82 Armenian_West + %12 Polish_V + %6 Sindhi @ 0,614035
17. %81 Armenian_West + %5 Sindhi + %14 Ukrainian_V @ 0,625492
18. %84 Armenian_West + %11 Lithuanian_V + %5 Sindhi @ 0,637102
19. %83 Armenian_West + %12 Belarusian + %5 Sindhi @ 0,640708
20. %81 Armenian_West + %13 Belarusian_V + %6 Sindhi @ 0,641595


Turk_Southeast without East Eurasian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Turkmen_Iraq @ 5,371676
2. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 5,449789
3. Zaza @ 5,537183
4. Azerbaijani @ 6,622295
5. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 6,660262
6. Kurd_Sorani @ 6,871797
7. Armenian_West @ 7,674353
8. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 8,190164
9. Talysh @ 8,253349
10. Assyrian @ 8,591234
11. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 8,802363
12. Lur_Iran @ 8,96368
13. Greek_Pontus @ 9,160713
14. Turk_Ahiska @ 9,443842
15. Laz @ 10,859938
16. Jew_Uzbekistan @ 11,215369
17. Jew_Azerbaijan @ 11,629927
18. Persian_Iran @ 12,126166
19. Jew_Tat @ 12,237671
20. Greek_Cappadocia @ 12,261615


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %24 Greek_Cyprus + %76 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,262501
2. %24 Greek_Ikaria + %76 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,286338
3. %18 Italian_Center + %82 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,381149
4. %22 Greek_Dodecanese + %78 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,402536
5. %24 Greek_Chios + %76 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,412989
6. %25 Greek_Crete + %75 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,414595
7. %83 Kurd_Kurmanji + %17 Sephardim @ 1,473274
8. %18 Italian_South + %82 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,480597
9. %17 Jew_Italia + %83 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,505865
10. %16 Jew_France + %84 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,520462
11. %15 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %85 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,568823
12. %16 Jew_France + %84 Zaza @ 1,596465
13. %17 Jew_Italia + %83 Zaza @ 1,601213
14. %30 Greek_Cappadocia + %70 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,621219
15. %20 Anatolia_Bronze_Age + %80 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,624511
16. %30 Greek_Crete + %70 Lur_Iran @ 1,62686
17. %81 Kurd_Sorani + %19 Sicilian @ 1,62988
18. %29 Greek_Chios + %71 Lur_Iran @ 1,646138
19. %26 Greek_Dodecanese + %74 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,660097
20. %32 Greek_Dodecanese + %68 Lur_Iran @ 1,678514


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %35 Greek_Crete + %20 Jew_Georgia + %45 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,715507
2. %37 Greek_Crete + %19 Jew_Iraqi + %44 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,719232
3. %34 Greek_Chios + %21 Jew_Georgia + %45 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,773149
4. %37 Greek_Chios + %18 Jew_Iraqi + %45 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,774564
5. %57 Assyrian + %27 Mazandarani_Iran + %16 Romanian_South @ 0,866183
6. %79 Assyrian + %11 German_V + %10 Kalash @ 0,866563
7. %79 Assyrian + %11 Austrian + %10 Kalash @ 0,8687
8. %19 Albanian_South + %33 Druze + %48 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,874755
9. %55 Assyrian + %17 Gagauz + %28 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,875531
10. %56 Assyrian + %17 Bulgarian + %27 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,876964
11. %57 Assyrian + %27 Mazandarani_Iran + %16 Pomak @ 0,876991
12. %81 Assyrian + %9 Kalash + %10 Norwegian_V @ 0,902688
13. %40 Greek_Azov + %51 Jew_Azerbaijan + %9 Sindhi @ 0,903733
14. %80 Assyrian + %10 Kalash + %10 Welsh @ 0,917373
15. %81 Armenian_West + %7 Finnish_South + %12 Makrani @ 0,925409
16. %79 Assyrian + %11 CEU_V + %10 Kalash @ 0,931873
17. %79 Assyrian + %11 CEU + %10 Kalash @ 0,935778
18. %81 Armenian_West + %7 Finnish + %12 Makrani @ 0,945091
19. %80 Assyrian + %10 Kalash + %10 Orcadian @ 0,948253
20. %73 Assyrian + %16 Gagauz + %11 Kalash @ 0,959548


Turk_Bulgaria without East Eurasian admixture
"%84 Bulgarian + %16 Talysh @ 1,163877"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Gagauz @ 6,61493
2. Bulgarian @ 7,025082
3. Pomak @ 7,66914
4. Romanian_South @ 8,683264
5. Greek_Peloponnese @ 9,241667
6. Albanian_Kosovo @ 9,340434
7. Albanian_North @ 9,824814
8. Albanian_South @ 9,883744
9. Greek_Thessaly @ 10,53711
10. Macedonian @ 10,828725
11. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12,373852
12. Romanian_North @ 12,946859
13. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13,875058
14. Jew_Romania @ 14,05322
15. Montenegrin @ 14,686756
16. Serb @ 15,321976
17. Italian_Center @ 15,348887
18. Greek_Azov @ 17,212305
19. Bosnian @ 17,306266
20. Greek_Chios @ 17,82748


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %42 Assyrian + %58 CEU_V @ 0,720758
2. %39 Assyrian + %61 German_V @ 0,722324
3. %62 British + %38 Jew_Kurd @ 0,768759
4. %33 Armenian_West + %67 Bosnian @ 0,822821
5. %36 Armenian_West + %64 Croat @ 0,857358
6. %64 Austrian + %36 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 0,88658
7. %86 Bulgarian + %14 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,899613
8. %41 Armenian_West + %59 Slovenian @ 0,925017
9. %88 Bulgarian + %12 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 0,92804
10. %62 British + %38 Jew_Iran @ 0,959927
11. %39 Assyrian + %61 Austrian @ 0,978127
12. %41 Jew_Azerbaijan + %59 Welsh @ 1,022067
13. %86 Bulgarian + %14 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,105358
14. %39 Jew_Kurd + %61 Orcadian @ 1,111186
15. %84 Bulgarian + %16 Talysh @ 1,163877
16. %84 Bulgarian + %16 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 1,181503
17. %83 Pomak + %17 Talysh @ 1,198788
18. %64 Austrian + %36 Jew_Tat @ 1,204734
19. %63 German_V + %37 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1,207474
20. %32 Assyrian + %68 Bosnian @ 1,231302


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %35 Belarusian + %43 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %22 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 0,471672
2. %46 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %22 Iran_Chalcolithic + %32 Lithuanian @ 0,510588
3. %9 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %57 German_V + %34 Jew_Uzbekistan @ 0,525453
4. %47 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %22 Iran_Chalcolithic + %31 Latvian @ 0,557289
5. %42 Corsican + %33 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %25 Lithuanian @ 0,608817
6. %39 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %40 Polish_V + %21 Sardinian @ 0,611365
7. %36 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %19 Sardinian + %45 Ukrainian_West @ 0,632711
8. %42 Armenian_West + %55 Czech + %3 Otzi @ 0,632728
9. %10 Anatolia_Neolithic + %61 Croat + %29 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 0,66323
10. %39 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %39 Polish + %22 Sardinian @ 0,666998
11. %43 Corsican + %33 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %24 Latvian @ 0,693641
12. %4 Anatolia_Neolithic + %61 German_V + %35 Jew_Tat @ 0,6942
13. %33 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %25 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %42 Ukrainian_West @ 0,699159
14. %2 Anatolia_Neolithic + %62 German_V + %36 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 0,699265
15. %44 Armenian_West + %9 Sardinian + %47 Sorb @ 0,703573
16. %41 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %35 Lithuanian_V + %24 Sardinian @ 0,7144
17. %37 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %22 Sardinian + %41 Ukrainian_East @ 0,720263
18. %8 Anatolia_Neolithic + %64 Bosnian + %28 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 0,721078
19. %39 Assyrian + %61 German_V + %0 Melanesian @ 0,722324
20. %39 Assyrian + %61 German_V + %0 Papuan @ 0,722324

Alkaevli
08-19-2019, 07:34 PM
Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA (MDLP World):
South_and_West_European 43,85
Middle_East 25,62
Caucaus_Parsia 28,78
North_and_East_European 0,73
Indian 0
Melanesian 0
Sub_Saharian 0,28
Arctic_Amerind 0,73
East_Asian 0
Paleo_African 0
Mesoamerican 0
North_Asian 0

Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA (Global K25 nMonte):
"distance%=4.5636 / distance=0.045636"

Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA

Anatolia_Barcin_N 68.5
GEO_CHG 31.5
RUS_Sidelkino_HG 0.0
WHG 0.0

Greekscholar
08-19-2019, 08:17 PM
Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA (MDLP World):
South_and_West_European 43,85
Middle_East 25,62
Caucaus_Parsia 28,78
North_and_East_European 0,73
Indian 0
Melanesian 0
Sub_Saharian 0,28
Arctic_Amerind 0,73
East_Asian 0
Paleo_African 0
Mesoamerican 0
North_Asian 0

Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA (Global K25 nMonte):
"distance%=4.532 / distance=0.04532"

Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA

Anatolia_Barcin_N 68.3
GEO_CHG 30.8
Han 0.9
RUS_Sidelkino_HG 0.0
Nganassan 0.0
WHG 0.0

Interesting. Is NE European a rough proxy for Slavic admixture on MDLP-WORLD for these populations? I ask because it seems to peak in Bulgarian populations and is at it lowest in Armenians and around Pontus.

Alkaevli
08-19-2019, 09:34 PM
Interesting. Is NE European a rough proxy for Slavic admixture on MDLP-WORLD for these populations? I ask because it seems to peak in Bulgarian populations and is at it lowest in Armenians and around Pontus.

The elevated North_and_East_European admixture in the Greek mainland might represent Slavic ancestry, but it was already present in the region prior to the Slavic migrations. The Mycenaean samples, unlike the non-IE Minoans, score NE_European for instance.

In the case of Anatolian Turks, it was probably brought to Anatolia with some Indo-European groups and the Medieval Turkic migrations have increased its level.

GRC_Mycenaean (MDLP World):
South_and_West_European 51,7
Middle_East 20,7
Caucaus_Parsia 18,72
North_and_East_European 5,64
Indian 0,46
Melanesian 0,54
Sub_Saharian 1,04
Arctic_Amerind 0,28
East_Asian 0
Paleo_African 0,32
Mesoamerican 0,47
North_Asian 0,12


GRC_Mycenaean (Global K25 nMonte):
"distance%=2.4197 / distance=0.024197"

GRC_Mycenaean

Anatolia_Barcin_N 76.0
GEO_CHG 17.4
RUS_Sidelkino_HG 6.5
WHG 0.0

Onur Dincer
08-19-2019, 09:47 PM
Do the calculators on GEDmatch take into account the FST distances between the components? As far as I know, they don't.

From my experience they do. But I am talking based on experience. If you have some theoretical information backing your claim, I would like to hear it.


The PCAs that focus on West Eurasia are also misleading when it comes to the position of the Turkish samples because the East Eurasian pull is too weak on those PCAs.


Misleading is not the right word here, because the said Turkish samples are already West Eurasian in the bulk of their genetics thus overall genetics. So a person who wants to see the position of the bulk of the ancestry of those samples will naturally want to see their position on an exclusively West Eurasian PCA such as this:

32563


There is one more thing. The West Eurasian ancestry of the Medieval Turkic samples is quite different than those of Anatolian Greeks and Armenians. The Medieval Turkic samples have more EHG and less Anatolia_Neolithic related ancestry, which makes Anatolian Turks (who descend partly from them) plot even closer to North Caucasus populations. Even if we were able to remove the East Eurasian admixture, there would still be a considerable difference between Anatolian Greeks and Turks.

MDLP World is my favorite calculator on GEDmatch as its components are highly compatible with ancient populations. Caucasus_Parsia is basically CHG while North_and_East_European represents the EHG ancestry in West Asian populations (it represents EHG + WHG in Europe). The rest of the West Eurasian components are Anatolia_Neolithic and Natufian-related.
https://abload.de/img/mdlpworld0snj4v.png
https://abload.de/img/mdlpworldsbj26.png


Turk_Northwest without East Eurasian admixture
"%73 Greek_Crete + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,652726"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 4,330439
2. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 6,438018
3. Greek_Cappadocia @ 10,333222
4. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 10,781461
5. Greek_Crete @ 11,832037
6. Greek_Chios @ 12,186669
7. Greek_Dodecanese @ 12,279616
8. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,427235
9. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 14,216449
10. Karachay @ 14,588575
11. Azerbaijani @ 14,664935
12. Greek_Cyprus @ 15,444189
13. Alan:DA162 @ 15,516476
14. Jew_Romania @ 15,697969
15. Balkar @ 15,747574
16. Circassian @ 16,118236
17. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 16,270557
18. Alan:DA243 @ 16,61984
19. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 16,694566
20. Greek_Pontus @ 16,990732


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %50 Albanian_North + %50 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,286691
2. %51 Greek_Thessaly + %49 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,342995
3. %75 Armenian_West + %25 Swedish_V @ 1,396379
4. %74 Armenian_West + %26 Sorb @ 1,523399
5. %41 Albanian_North + %59 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,57986
6. %42 Albanian_North + %58 Zaza @ 1,591362
7. %27 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %73 Armenian_West @ 1,598428
8. %73 Armenian_West + %27 Slovakian @ 1,601136
9. %42 Albanian_Kosovo + %58 Zaza @ 1,602842
10. %73 Greek_Crete + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,652726
11. %75 Armenian_West + %25 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 @ 1,676055
12. %53 Albanian_South + %47 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,676449
13. %49 Albanian_Kosovo + %51 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,69877
14. %75 Armenian_West + %25 Belarusian_V @ 1,711465
15. %65 Greek_Peloponnese + %35 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,71874
16. %51 Greek_Peloponnese + %49 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 1,748746
17. %41 Albanian_Kosovo + %59 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,752293
18. %56 Greek_Peloponnese + %44 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,757178
19. %44 Albanian_South + %56 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,783491
20. %72 Armenian_West + %28 German @ 1,792322


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %71 Armenian_West + %22 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %7 Roma_Balkans @ 0,494349
2. %71 Armenian_West + %5 Roma_Balkans + %24 Sorb @ 0,640148
3. %54 Armenian_West + %6 Kalash + %40 Pomak @ 0,671279
4. %74 Armenian_West + %2 Indian + %24 Swedish_V @ 0,70424
5. %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %15 Lithuanian_V + %19 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,710405
6. %71 Armenian_West + %2 Indian + %27 Slovakian @ 0,725347
7. %16 Belarusian + %65 Greek_Cappadocia + %19 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,743431
8. %74 Armenian_West + %24 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %2 Indian @ 0,757222
9. %21 Belarusian + %71 Greek_Pontus + %8 Roma_Balkans @ 0,795792
10. %72 Armenian_West + %5 Roma_Balkans + %23 Swedish_V @ 0,800936
11. %55 Armenian_West + %37 Pomak + %8 Tajik_Pamiri_Ishkashim @ 0,809043
12. %54 Armenian_West + %37 Pomak + %9 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 0,825713
13. %45 Iran_Chalcolithic + %21 Lithuanian_V + %34 Minoan_Lasithi_Bronze_Age @ 0,828256
14. %55 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %24 Minoan_Lasithi_Bronze_Age + %21 Swedish_V @ 0,853089
15. %22 Belarusian + %44 Iran_Chalcolithic + %34 Minoan_Lasithi_Bronze_Age @ 0,862693
16. %55 Armenian_West + %37 Pomak + %8 Tajik_Pamiri_Shugnan @ 0,872367
17. %79 Greek_Cappadocia + %9 Kalash + %12 Latvian @ 0,883991
18. %54 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %23 Minoan_Lasithi_Bronze_Age + %23 Slovakian @ 0,886563
19. %73 Armenian_West + %2 Indian + %25 Sorb @ 0,892265
20. %27 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %71 Armenian_West + %2 Indian @ 0,928119


Turk_Southwest without East Eurasian admixture
"%73 Greek_Dodecanese + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,691073"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 5,651576
2. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,861252
3. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 8,734179
4. Greek_Dodecanese @ 11,695177
5. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 12,076995
6. Greek_Crete @ 12,384309
7. Azerbaijani @ 12,571226
8. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,831936
9. Greek_Chios @ 12,857111
10. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 13,356943
11. Greek_Pontus @ 13,740152
12. Greek_Cyprus @ 13,741418
13. Armenian_West @ 13,853793
14. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 13,912269
15. Karachay @ 14,347122
16. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 14,433084
17. Turkmen_Iraq @ 14,758117
18. Zaza @ 14,777697
19. Alan:DA162 @ 15,087472
20. Balkar @ 15,132564


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %42 Greek_Peloponnese + %58 Zaza @ 1,247438
2. %65 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %35 Portugese @ 1,287102
3. %38 Albanian_South + %62 Zaza @ 1,292677
4. %22 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %78 Armenian_West @ 1,376971
5. %80 Armenian_West + %20 Swedish_V @ 1,460164
6. %37 Greek_Thessaly + %63 Zaza @ 1,496796
7. %78 Armenian_West + %22 German_North @ 1,613274
8. %78 Armenian_West + %22 Czech @ 1,654152
9. %79 Armenian_West + %21 Swedish @ 1,654226
10. %78 Armenian_West + %22 Slovakian @ 1,655899
11. %60 Greek_Peloponnese + %40 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,656951
12. %78 Armenian_West + %22 German @ 1,673064
13. %36 Albanian_North + %64 Zaza @ 1,690375
14. %73 Greek_Dodecanese + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,691073
15. %79 Armenian_West + %21 Norwegian_V @ 1,725289
16. %38 Corsican + %62 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,768536
17. %77 Armenian_West + %23 Slovenian @ 1,816303
18. %79 Armenian_West + %21 Sorb @ 1,839823
19. %46 Greek_Thessaly + %54 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,871727
20. %76 Armenian_West + %24 Hungarian @ 1,884039


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %71 Armenian_West + %25 Croat + %4 Sindhi @ 0,430922
2. %70 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %4 Sindhi @ 0,43474
3. %22 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %76 Armenian_West + %2 Jew_India @ 0,528351
4. %75 Armenian_West + %22 German_North + %3 Jew_India @ 0,557396
5. %70 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %4 Pathan @ 0,562133
6. %76 Armenian_West + %3 Jew_India + %21 Swedish @ 0,575441
7. %77 Armenian_West + %21 German_North + %2 Indian @ 0,578929
8. %21 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %77 Armenian_West + %2 Indian @ 0,629608
9. %62 Armenian_West + %33 Bulgarian + %5 Kalash @ 0,631287
10. %62 Armenian_West + %5 Kalash + %33 Pomak @ 0,635008
11. %78 Armenian_West + %2 Indian + %20 Swedish @ 0,657244
12. %70 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %4 Burusho @ 0,694892
13. %57 Greek_Ikaria + %33 Iran_Chalcolithic + %10 Sorb @ 0,702652
14. %63 Armenian_West + %5 Kalash + %32 Romanian_South @ 0,718621
15. %77 Armenian_West + %2 Indian + %21 Norwegian_V @ 0,747046
16. %70 Greek_Cappadocia + %10 Lithuanian_V + %20 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,751518
17. %69 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %11 Polish @ 0,753751
18. %67 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran + %12 Sorb @ 0,754362
19. %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran + %13 Ukrainian_West @ 0,765293
20. %68 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %12 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,77287


Turk_West_Black_Sea without East Eurasian admixture
"%73 Greek_Dodecanese + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,729651"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 4,928195
2. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 8,134722
3. Greek_Cappadocia @ 8,444056
4. Greek_Dodecanese @ 11,933264
5. Greek_Crete @ 12,34366
6. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 12,591164
7. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12,763829
8. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,775352
9. Greek_Chios @ 12,783244
10. Azerbaijani @ 13,068064
11. Karachay @ 14,140845
12. Greek_Cyprus @ 14,338828
13. Greek_Pontus @ 14,458774
14. Armenian_West @ 14,64409
15. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 14,7583
16. Alan:DA162 @ 14,777618
17. Balkar @ 14,975776
18. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 14,99897
19. Circassian @ 15,20001
20. Zaza @ 15,370013


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %64 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %36 Portugese @ 1,144875
2. %61 Greek_Peloponnese + %39 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,145788
3. %47 Greek_Thessaly + %53 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,257923
4. %23 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %77 Armenian_West @ 1,263643
5. %49 Albanian_South + %51 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,30477
6. %79 Armenian_West + %21 Swedish_V @ 1,360832
7. %40 Albanian_South + %60 Zaza @ 1,370281
8. %43 Greek_Peloponnese + %57 Zaza @ 1,52324
9. %77 Armenian_West + %23 German_North @ 1,528852
10. %37 Albanian_North + %63 Zaza @ 1,535771
11. %52 Greek_Peloponnese + %48 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,562682
12. %66 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %34 Spaniard @ 1,57893
13. %78 Armenian_West + %22 Swedish @ 1,588612
14. %77 Armenian_West + %23 Slovakian @ 1,612209
15. %76 Armenian_West + %24 German @ 1,613196
16. %77 Armenian_West + %23 Norwegian_V @ 1,617918
17. %38 Greek_Thessaly + %62 Zaza @ 1,658822
18. %76 Armenian_West + %24 Czech @ 1,687991
19. %73 Greek_Dodecanese + %27 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 1,729651
20. %78 Armenian_West + %22 Sorb @ 1,757286


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %59 Armenian_West + %35 Bulgarian + %6 Kalash @ 0,562172
2. %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran + %13 Polish_V @ 0,64994
3. %59 Armenian_West + %6 Kalash + %35 Pomak @ 0,664988
4. %72 Armenian_West + %23 Slovenian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Ishkashim @ 0,673875
5. %72 Armenian_West + %23 Slovenian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 0,68647
6. %72 Armenian_West + %23 Slovenian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Shugnan @ 0,686643
7. %13 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %65 Greek_Cappadocia + %22 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,694998
8. %17 Belarusian + %75 Greek_Pontus + %8 Roma_Balkans @ 0,705668
9. %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran + %13 Sorb @ 0,714867
10. %65 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran + %14 Ukrainian_West @ 0,717069
11. %76 Greek_Pontus + %17 Lithuanian_V + %7 Roma_Balkans @ 0,728063
12. %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %14 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,731334
13. %69 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Ishkashim @ 0,736127
14. %13 Belarusian_V + %66 Greek_Cappadocia + %21 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,738622
15. %23 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %76 Armenian_West + %1 Indian @ 0,751631
16. %67 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %13 Ukrainian_East @ 0,754397
17. %68 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %12 Polish @ 0,768402
18. %67 Greek_Cappadocia + %20 Mazandarani_Iran + %13 Ukrainian @ 0,786416
19. %69 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Shugnan @ 0,787675
20. %69 Armenian_West + %26 Bosnian + %5 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 0,800051


Turk_Central_Black_Sea without East Eurasian admixture
"%86 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian + %4 Pashtun_Afghanistan @ 0,616406"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,764856
2. Greek_Pontus @ 8,564748
3. Armenian_West @ 8,683716
4. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 9,049171
5. Azerbaijani @ 9,407157
6. Turk_Ahiska @ 10,204599
7. Zaza @ 10,223749
8. Greek_Azov @ 10,252364
9. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 10,484647
10. Turkmen_Iraq @ 10,832014
11. Laz @ 10,992293
12. Assyrian @ 11,923293
13. Kurd_Sorani @ 12,50851
14. Talysh @ 12,514864
15. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 12,541826
16. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,578343
17. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 12,60581
18. Circassian @ 13,759056
19. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13,938247
20. Balkar @ 14,055034


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %60 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %40 Italian_South @ 1,019303
2. %34 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %66 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,091729
3. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Sintashta @ 1,172406
4. %60 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %40 Italian_Center @ 1,216304
5. %48 Iran_Chalcolithic + %52 Italian_Center @ 1,451536
6. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Inkeri @ 1,527683
7. %11 Finnish_South + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,533829
8. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Karelian @ 1,589767
9. %11 Finnish + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,59049
10. %11 Estonian + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,607813
11. %87 Greek_Pontus + %13 Mordovian @ 1,612835
12. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Vepsa @ 1,627018
13. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Latvian @ 1,640476
14. %15 Andronovo + %85 Armenian_West @ 1,651158
15. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_North @ 1,654642
16. %10 Finnish_North + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,697502
17. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Lithuanian @ 1,722491
18. %47 Alan:DA162 + %53 Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 1,753308
19. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Russian @ 1,807277
20. %15 Andronovo + %85 Greek_Pontus @ 1,81675


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %87 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian + %3 Sindhi @ 0,499982
2. %4 Balochi + %11 Belarusian + %85 Greek_Pontus @ 0,51844
3. %80 Armenian_West + %9 Avar + %11 German_North @ 0,532405
4. %80 Armenian_West + %9 Avar + %11 Norwegian_V @ 0,541791
5. %76 Armenian_West + %11 Avar + %13 Bosnian @ 0,555596
6. %78 Armenian_West + %11 Avar + %11 Slovenian @ 0,558327
7. %11 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %80 Armenian_West + %9 Avar @ 0,559981
8. %79 Armenian_West + %10 Avar + %11 Czech @ 0,563674
9. %87 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian + %3 Pathan @ 0,567095
10. %80 Armenian_West + %13 German_V + %7 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 0,573605
11. %78 Armenian_West + %11 Avar + %11 CEU_V @ 0,575491
12. %82 Armenian_West + %12 Norwegian_V + %6 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 0,582408
13. %77 Armenian_West + %11 Avar + %12 Croat @ 0,590889
14. %81 Armenian_West + %7 Tajik_Yagnobi + %12 Welsh @ 0,59908
15. %80 Armenian_West + %9 Avar + %11 Swedish @ 0,608131
16. %10 Estonian + %87 Greek_Pontus + %3 Sindhi @ 0,609594
17. %86 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian + %4 Pashtun_Afghanistan @ 0,616406
18. %81 Armenian_West + %12 CEU_V + %7 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 0,620895
19. %80 Armenian_West + %12 CEU + %8 Tajik_Yagnobi @ 0,626731
20. %72 Armenian_West + %13 Avar + %15 Pomak @ 0,631756


Turk_Central_West without East Eurasian admixture
"%82 Greek_Cappadocia + %18 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 1,827879"
"%68 Greek_Cappadocia + %7 Lithuanian + %25 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,619125"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,678861
2. Greek_Azov @ 8,097425
3. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 9,909703
4. Azerbaijani @ 10,355323
5. Armenian_West @ 11,261528
6. Greek_Pontus @ 11,289128
7. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 11,434407
8. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 11,881343
9. Zaza @ 12,067897
10. Turkmen_Iraq @ 12,199419
11. Turk_Ahiska @ 12,839288
12. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,882315
13. Greek_Dodecanese @ 13,106013
14. Laz @ 13,860533
15. Karachay @ 13,864122
16. Greek_Cyprus @ 13,89284
17. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 13,92399
18. Assyrian @ 14,024993
19. Kurd_Sorani @ 14,072559
20. Talysh @ 14,132923


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %33 Corsican + %67 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,451034
2. %55 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %45 Italian_Center @ 1,571614
3. %34 Greek_Peloponnese + %66 Zaza @ 1,6469
4. %34 Italian_Center + %66 Zaza @ 1,692567
5. %61 Iran_Medieval:I1955 + %39 Italian_Center @ 1,700743
6. %31 Albanian_South + %69 Zaza @ 1,726394
7. %39 Avar + %61 Greek_Cyprus @ 1,785111
8. %82 Armenian_West + %18 Sintashta @ 1,790082
9. %34 Italian_Center + %66 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,811292
10. %82 Greek_Cappadocia + %18 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 1,827879
11. %61 Greek_Chios + %39 Mazandarani_Iran @ 1,837934
12. %30 Greek_Thessaly + %70 Zaza @ 1,889824
13. %61 Greek_Crete + %39 Mazandarani_Iran @ 1,94097
14. %84 Armenian_West + %16 Swedish_V @ 1,951664
15. %18 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %82 Armenian_West @ 1,962664
16. %83 Armenian_West + %17 Sorb @ 1,980614
17. %42 Alan:DA243 + %58 Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 2,002788
18. %24 Corsican + %76 Zaza @ 2,006768
19. %84 Armenian_West + %16 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 @ 2,032537
20. %84 Armenian_West + %16 Belarusian_V @ 2,042156


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %78 Armenian_West + %17 German_North + %5 Pathan @ 0,459826
2. %79 Armenian_West + %5 Pathan + %16 Swedish @ 0,473798
3. %79 Armenian_West + %17 German_North + %4 Sindhi @ 0,479506
4. %68 Armenian_West + %6 Kalash + %26 Pomak @ 0,494586
5. %17 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %79 Armenian_West + %4 Pathan @ 0,526625
6. %78 Armenian_West + %17 Czech + %5 Pathan @ 0,54602
7. %73 Armenian_West + %6 Balochi + %21 Bosnian @ 0,553447
8. %17 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %79 Armenian_West + %4 Sindhi @ 0,563639
9. %80 Armenian_West + %4 Sindhi + %16 Swedish_V @ 0,567644
10. %80 Armenian_West + %4 Sindhi + %16 Swedish @ 0,587553
11. %67 Armenian_West + %27 Bulgarian + %6 Kalash @ 0,596564
12. %79 Armenian_West + %4 Burusho + %17 German_North @ 0,605628
13. %75 Armenian_West + %19 Croat + %6 Pathan @ 0,608216
14. %68 Greek_Cappadocia + %7 Lithuanian + %25 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,619125
15. %72 Armenian_West + %5 Kalash + %23 Romanian_North @ 0,620944
16. %74 Armenian_West + %21 Bosnian + %5 Kalash @ 0,631779
17. %77 Armenian_West + %5 Pathan + %18 Slovenian @ 0,633274
18. %17 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %79 Armenian_West + %4 Burusho @ 0,633391
19. %75 Armenian_West + %20 Croat + %5 Kalash @ 0,643871
20. %74 Armenian_West + %20 Bosnian + %6 Pathan @ 0,655379


Turk_Central_East without East Eurasian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 8,08587
2. Azerbaijani @ 8,421651
3. Armenian_West @ 8,632525
4. Greek_Cappadocia @ 8,654039
5. Greek_Pontus @ 8,960429
6. Zaza @ 9,208932
7. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 9,269283
8. Turkmen_Iraq @ 9,535486
9. Turk_Ahiska @ 10,304456
10. Greek_Azov @ 11,051779
11. Kurd_Sorani @ 11,275221
12. Assyrian @ 11,330326
13. Laz @ 11,332012
14. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 11,483762
15. Talysh @ 11,523368
16. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 11,88017
17. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,308075
18. Lur_Iran @ 13,123169
19. Circassian @ 13,868649
20. Karachay @ 14,102149


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %26 Italian_Center + %74 Zaza @ 1,345547
2. %62 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %38 Italian_South @ 1,356453
3. %62 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %38 Italian_Center @ 1,475873
4. %34 Greek_Ikaria + %66 Zaza @ 1,610344
5. %48 Greek_Ikaria + %52 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,670887
6. %26 Italian_South + %74 Zaza @ 1,686933
7. %40 Greek_Ikaria + %60 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 1,732023
8. %34 Greek_Chios + %66 Zaza @ 1,821934
9. %35 Greek_Crete + %65 Zaza @ 1,837315
10. %15 Andronovo + %85 Armenian_West @ 1,850441
11. %50 Iran_Chalcolithic + %50 Italian_Center @ 1,858832
12. %22 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %78 Zaza @ 1,876435
13. %40 Greek_Crete + %60 Talysh @ 1,922178
14. %39 Greek_Chios + %61 Talysh @ 1,922731
15. %68 Iran_Medieval:I1955 + %32 Sicilian @ 1,952768
16. %60 Greek_Ikaria + %40 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,955143
17. %61 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %39 Sicilian @ 1,961133
18. %40 Greek_Ikaria + %60 Talysh @ 1,970194
19. %61 Greek_Crete + %39 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,972471
20. %33 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %67 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,981321


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %13 German_North @ 0,365222
2. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %13 Swedish @ 0,406627
3. %13 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %80 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui @ 0,44402
4. %76 Armenian_West + %16 Bosnian + %8 Brahui @ 0,45636
5. %77 Armenian_West + %8 Brahui + %15 Croat @ 0,457678
6. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %13 German_North @ 0,458571
7. %83 Armenian_West + %11 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %6 Pathan @ 0,469534
8. %81 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %12 Swedish_V @ 0,470455
9. %78 Armenian_West + %8 Brahui + %14 Slovenian @ 0,475553
10. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %13 Slovakian @ 0,500557
11. %82 Armenian_West + %6 Balochi + %12 Swedish_V @ 0,503796
12. %79 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %14 Czech @ 0,503996
13. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %13 Norwegian_V @ 0,508213
14. %13 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %81 Armenian_West + %6 Balochi @ 0,520287
15. %83 Armenian_West + %4 Sindhi + %13 Sintashta @ 0,528984
16. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %13 Slovakian @ 0,553722
17. %81 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %12 Swedish @ 0,555644
18. %75 Armenian_West + %8 Brahui + %17 Serb @ 0,556198
19. %78 Armenian_West + %8 Brahui + %14 German_V @ 0,575331
20. %79 Armenian_West + %7 Brahui + %14 German @ 0,58095


Turk_East without East Eurasian
"%86 Armenian_West + %14 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 2,040194"
"%86 Armenian_West + %7 Kalash + %7 Sintashta @ 0,413725"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Zaza @ 5,932167
2. Armenian_West @ 6,078346
3. Greek_Pontus @ 6,642672
4. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 6,751993
5. Turk_Ahiska @ 6,924089
6. Turkmen_Iraq @ 7,126521
7. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 7,174921
8. Azerbaijani @ 7,243659
9. Laz @ 7,932899
10. Kurd_Sorani @ 8,299048
11. Talysh @ 8,492844
12. Assyrian @ 8,839654
13. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 8,90409
14. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 8,987647
15. Lur_Iran @ 10,030562
16. Greek_Cappadocia @ 11,277722
17. Georgian_Chveneburi @ 11,506076
18. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 11,681991
19. Jew_Azerbaijan @ 12,065263
20. Jew_Uzbekistan @ 12,387077


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %51 Greek_Ikaria + %49 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 0,96046
2. %83 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %17 Sardinian @ 1,097483
3. %73 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %27 Mycenaean_Bronze_Age @ 1,151021
4. %61 Greek_Cappadocia + %39 Mazandarani_Iran @ 1,397843
5. %56 Iran_Chalcolithic + %44 Sicilian @ 1,457227
6. %34 Greek_Cappadocia + %66 Zaza @ 1,507015
7. %83 Armenian_West + %17 Kangju:DA206 @ 1,584736
8. %57 Iran_Chalcolithic + %43 Italian_South @ 1,652102
9. %21 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %79 Zaza @ 1,675154
10. %43 Greek_Cappadocia + %57 Talysh @ 1,723259
11. %26 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %74 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,750705
12. %52 Greek_Crete + %48 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,788169
13. %21 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %79 Zaza @ 1,901959
14. %51 Greek_Chios + %49 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,926006
15. %70 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %30 Italian_South @ 1,929561
16. %57 Iran_Chalcolithic + %43 Italian_Center @ 1,948558
17. %22 Anatolia_Bronze_Age + %78 Zaza @ 1,991621
18. %14 Mycenaean_Bronze_Age + %86 Zaza @ 1,992129
19. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Sarmatian:I0575 @ 2,013005
20. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Tajik_Pamiri_Rushan @ 2,040194


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %86 Armenian_West + %6 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %8 Kalash @ 0,357375
2. %69 Armenian_West + %8 German_V + %23 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,363964
3. %69 Armenian_West + %8 CEU + %23 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,388397
4. %69 Armenian_West + %8 CEU_V + %23 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,390031
5. %69 Armenian_West + %23 Mazandarani_Iran + %8 Welsh @ 0,39614
6. %69 Armenian_West + %8 British + %23 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,410512
7. %69 Armenian_West + %8 Austrian + %23 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,410721
8. %86 Armenian_West + %7 Kalash + %7 Sintashta @ 0,413725
9. %86 Armenian_West + %8 Kalash + %6 Sorb @ 0,417277
10. %86 Armenian_West + %8 Kalash + %6 Swedish_V @ 0,430237
11. %86 Armenian_West + %8 Kalash + %6 Polish_V @ 0,44955
12. %69 Armenian_West + %23 Mazandarani_Iran + %8 Orcadian @ 0,452211
13. %83 Armenian_West + %9 Kalash + %8 Serb @ 0,456788
14. %86 Armenian_West + %6 Belarusian_V + %8 Kalash @ 0,458955
15. %70 Armenian_West + %22 Mazandarani_Iran + %8 Slovenian @ 0,460651
16. %71 Armenian_West + %22 Mazandarani_Iran + %7 Norwegian_V @ 0,488493
17. %83 Armenian_West + %8 Bosnian + %9 Kalash @ 0,513059
18. %85 Armenian_West + %9 Kalash + %6 Swedish @ 0,518124
19. %83 Armenian_West + %8 Croat + %9 Kalash @ 0,523515
20. %84 Armenian_West + %7 Hungarian + %9 Kalash @ 0,530472


Turk_South without East Eurasian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 8,063157
2. Azerbaijani @ 8,382733
3. Greek_Cappadocia @ 9,00542
4. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 9,291126
5. Armenian_West @ 9,461918
6. Zaza @ 9,471886
7. Turkmen_Iraq @ 9,557558
8. Greek_Pontus @ 9,975945
9. Greek_Azov @ 10,773904
10. Turk_Ahiska @ 11,120864
11. Kurd_Sorani @ 11,348816
12. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 11,543058
13. Talysh @ 11,731036
14. Assyrian @ 11,772464
15. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 12,095464
16. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,314516
17. Laz @ 12,347076
18. Lur_Iran @ 13,22161
19. Karachay @ 13,930377
20. Circassian @ 13,939693


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %27 Italian_Center + %73 Zaza @ 1,482509
2. %40 Greek_Chios + %60 Talysh @ 1,588322
3. %35 Greek_Ikaria + %65 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,605294
4. %26 Greek_Peloponnese + %74 Zaza @ 1,62557
5. %41 Greek_Crete + %59 Talysh @ 1,626359
6. %27 Italian_Center + %73 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,636264
7. %35 Greek_Chios + %65 Zaza @ 1,731905
8. %54 Greek_Chios + %46 Mazandarani_Iran @ 1,755458
9. %55 Greek_Crete + %45 Mazandarani_Iran @ 1,755979
10. %35 Greek_Crete + %65 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,76869
11. %35 Greek_Chios + %65 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,773244
12. %36 Greek_Crete + %64 Zaza @ 1,774583
13. %30 Jew_Romania + %70 Zaza @ 1,788313
14. %46 Iran_Chalcolithic + %54 Jew_Romania @ 1,796746
15. %26 Italian_South + %74 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,81327
16. %36 Avar + %64 Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 1,832962
17. %61 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %39 Italian_Center @ 1,871477
18. %41 Greek_Ikaria + %59 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 1,878429
19. %24 Albanian_South + %76 Zaza @ 1,90601
20. %35 Greek_Ikaria + %65 Zaza @ 1,909965


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %82 Armenian_West + %5 Sindhi + %13 Ukrainian_East @ 0,477247
2. %82 Armenian_West + %13 Russian_South + %5 Sindhi @ 0,522832
3. %83 Armenian_West + %12 Polish + %5 Sindhi @ 0,533069
4. %78 Armenian_West + %8 Makrani + %14 Slovakian @ 0,534452
5. %82 Armenian_West + %5 Sindhi + %13 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,549581
6. %82 Armenian_West + %5 Sindhi + %13 Ukrainian @ 0,550462
7. %82 Armenian_West + %13 Russian_Cossack + %5 Sindhi @ 0,581004
8. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %13 Sorb @ 0,581115
9. %83 Armenian_West + %12 Russian + %5 Sindhi @ 0,583501
10. %80 Armenian_West + %6 Sindhi + %14 Ukrainian_West @ 0,584949
11. %83 Armenian_West + %12 Russian_Center + %5 Sindhi @ 0,595243
12. %73 Armenian_West + %9 Makrani + %18 Serb @ 0,595535
13. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Makrani + %13 Sorb @ 0,598199
14. %79 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %14 Ukrainian_West @ 0,606316
15. %80 Armenian_West + %7 Balochi + %13 Belarusian_V @ 0,612288
16. %82 Armenian_West + %12 Polish_V + %6 Sindhi @ 0,614035
17. %81 Armenian_West + %5 Sindhi + %14 Ukrainian_V @ 0,625492
18. %84 Armenian_West + %11 Lithuanian_V + %5 Sindhi @ 0,637102
19. %83 Armenian_West + %12 Belarusian + %5 Sindhi @ 0,640708
20. %81 Armenian_West + %13 Belarusian_V + %6 Sindhi @ 0,641595


Turk_Southeast without East Eurasian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Turkmen_Iraq @ 5,371676
2. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 5,449789
3. Zaza @ 5,537183
4. Azerbaijani @ 6,622295
5. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 6,660262
6. Kurd_Sorani @ 6,871797
7. Armenian_West @ 7,674353
8. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 8,190164
9. Talysh @ 8,253349
10. Assyrian @ 8,591234
11. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 8,802363
12. Lur_Iran @ 8,96368
13. Greek_Pontus @ 9,160713
14. Turk_Ahiska @ 9,443842
15. Laz @ 10,859938
16. Jew_Uzbekistan @ 11,215369
17. Jew_Azerbaijan @ 11,629927
18. Persian_Iran @ 12,126166
19. Jew_Tat @ 12,237671
20. Greek_Cappadocia @ 12,261615


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %24 Greek_Cyprus + %76 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,262501
2. %24 Greek_Ikaria + %76 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,286338
3. %18 Italian_Center + %82 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,381149
4. %22 Greek_Dodecanese + %78 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,402536
5. %24 Greek_Chios + %76 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,412989
6. %25 Greek_Crete + %75 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,414595
7. %83 Kurd_Kurmanji + %17 Sephardim @ 1,473274
8. %18 Italian_South + %82 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,480597
9. %17 Jew_Italia + %83 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,505865
10. %16 Jew_France + %84 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,520462
11. %15 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %85 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,568823
12. %16 Jew_France + %84 Zaza @ 1,596465
13. %17 Jew_Italia + %83 Zaza @ 1,601213
14. %30 Greek_Cappadocia + %70 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,621219
15. %20 Anatolia_Bronze_Age + %80 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 1,624511
16. %30 Greek_Crete + %70 Lur_Iran @ 1,62686
17. %81 Kurd_Sorani + %19 Sicilian @ 1,62988
18. %29 Greek_Chios + %71 Lur_Iran @ 1,646138
19. %26 Greek_Dodecanese + %74 Kurd_Sorani @ 1,660097
20. %32 Greek_Dodecanese + %68 Lur_Iran @ 1,678514


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %35 Greek_Crete + %20 Jew_Georgia + %45 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,715507
2. %37 Greek_Crete + %19 Jew_Iraqi + %44 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,719232
3. %34 Greek_Chios + %21 Jew_Georgia + %45 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,773149
4. %37 Greek_Chios + %18 Jew_Iraqi + %45 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,774564
5. %57 Assyrian + %27 Mazandarani_Iran + %16 Romanian_South @ 0,866183
6. %79 Assyrian + %11 German_V + %10 Kalash @ 0,866563
7. %79 Assyrian + %11 Austrian + %10 Kalash @ 0,8687
8. %19 Albanian_South + %33 Druze + %48 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,874755
9. %55 Assyrian + %17 Gagauz + %28 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,875531
10. %56 Assyrian + %17 Bulgarian + %27 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,876964
11. %57 Assyrian + %27 Mazandarani_Iran + %16 Pomak @ 0,876991
12. %81 Assyrian + %9 Kalash + %10 Norwegian_V @ 0,902688
13. %40 Greek_Azov + %51 Jew_Azerbaijan + %9 Sindhi @ 0,903733
14. %80 Assyrian + %10 Kalash + %10 Welsh @ 0,917373
15. %81 Armenian_West + %7 Finnish_South + %12 Makrani @ 0,925409
16. %79 Assyrian + %11 CEU_V + %10 Kalash @ 0,931873
17. %79 Assyrian + %11 CEU + %10 Kalash @ 0,935778
18. %81 Armenian_West + %7 Finnish + %12 Makrani @ 0,945091
19. %80 Assyrian + %10 Kalash + %10 Orcadian @ 0,948253
20. %73 Assyrian + %16 Gagauz + %11 Kalash @ 0,959548


Turk_Bulgaria without East Eurasian admixture
"%84 Bulgarian + %16 Talysh @ 1,163877"

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Gagauz @ 6,61493
2. Bulgarian @ 7,025082
3. Pomak @ 7,66914
4. Romanian_South @ 8,683264
5. Greek_Peloponnese @ 9,241667
6. Albanian_Kosovo @ 9,340434
7. Albanian_North @ 9,824814
8. Albanian_South @ 9,883744
9. Greek_Thessaly @ 10,53711
10. Macedonian @ 10,828725
11. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12,373852
12. Romanian_North @ 12,946859
13. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13,875058
14. Jew_Romania @ 14,05322
15. Montenegrin @ 14,686756
16. Serb @ 15,321976
17. Italian_Center @ 15,348887
18. Greek_Azov @ 17,212305
19. Bosnian @ 17,306266
20. Greek_Chios @ 17,82748


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %42 Assyrian + %58 CEU_V @ 0,720758
2. %39 Assyrian + %61 German_V @ 0,722324
3. %62 British + %38 Jew_Kurd @ 0,768759
4. %33 Armenian_West + %67 Bosnian @ 0,822821
5. %36 Armenian_West + %64 Croat @ 0,857358
6. %64 Austrian + %36 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 0,88658
7. %86 Bulgarian + %14 Mazandarani_Iran @ 0,899613
8. %41 Armenian_West + %59 Slovenian @ 0,925017
9. %88 Bulgarian + %12 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 0,92804
10. %62 British + %38 Jew_Iran @ 0,959927
11. %39 Assyrian + %61 Austrian @ 0,978127
12. %41 Jew_Azerbaijan + %59 Welsh @ 1,022067
13. %86 Bulgarian + %14 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,105358
14. %39 Jew_Kurd + %61 Orcadian @ 1,111186
15. %84 Bulgarian + %16 Talysh @ 1,163877
16. %84 Bulgarian + %16 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 1,181503
17. %83 Pomak + %17 Talysh @ 1,198788
18. %64 Austrian + %36 Jew_Tat @ 1,204734
19. %63 German_V + %37 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1,207474
20. %32 Assyrian + %68 Bosnian @ 1,231302


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %35 Belarusian + %43 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %22 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 0,471672
2. %46 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %22 Iran_Chalcolithic + %32 Lithuanian @ 0,510588
3. %9 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %57 German_V + %34 Jew_Uzbekistan @ 0,525453
4. %47 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %22 Iran_Chalcolithic + %31 Latvian @ 0,557289
5. %42 Corsican + %33 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %25 Lithuanian @ 0,608817
6. %39 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %40 Polish_V + %21 Sardinian @ 0,611365
7. %36 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %19 Sardinian + %45 Ukrainian_West @ 0,632711
8. %42 Armenian_West + %55 Czech + %3 Otzi @ 0,632728
9. %10 Anatolia_Neolithic + %61 Croat + %29 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 0,66323
10. %39 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %39 Polish + %22 Sardinian @ 0,666998
11. %43 Corsican + %33 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %24 Latvian @ 0,693641
12. %4 Anatolia_Neolithic + %61 German_V + %35 Jew_Tat @ 0,6942
13. %33 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %25 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %42 Ukrainian_West @ 0,699159
14. %2 Anatolia_Neolithic + %62 German_V + %36 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 0,699265
15. %44 Armenian_West + %9 Sardinian + %47 Sorb @ 0,703573
16. %41 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %35 Lithuanian_V + %24 Sardinian @ 0,7144
17. %37 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %22 Sardinian + %41 Ukrainian_East @ 0,720263
18. %8 Anatolia_Neolithic + %64 Bosnian + %28 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 0,721078
19. %39 Assyrian + %61 German_V + %0 Melanesian @ 0,722324
20. %39 Assyrian + %61 German_V + %0 Papuan @ 0,722324

Thank you for posting the East Eurasian-removed results! Those results exactly confirm what I have stated in my previous post: "When we look at Anatolian Turks, we see that their West Eurasian ancestry, which makes up the bulk of their ancestry, is indeed most like their immediate neighbors in and around Anatolia." Various Greek and/or Armenian populations appear among the closest populations in the lists of Anatolian Turks when you remove the East Eurasian ancestry from Anatolian Turks, and the North Caucasus populations are pushed to much more distant positions. For Balkan Turks you do not even have to remove their East Eurasian to see that Bulgarians, Romanians, northern mainland Greeks and Albanians are among the closest populations to them genetically. Besides, I have not stated that the West Eurasian ancestry of Anatolian or Balkan Turks is exactly the same as their non-Turkic admixed neighbors, but still their non-Turkic-admixed neighbors are among the closest to them among all populations of the world because the Oghuz/Turcoman contribution makes up the minor part in their West Eurasian ancestry, the major part comes from native ancestry.

Alkaevli
08-19-2019, 10:35 PM
From my experience they do. But I am talking based on experience. If you have some theoretical information backing your claim, I would like to hear it.
I'm using a desktop programme made by my friend and based on least-squares method, it doesn't take into account the FST distances and yet the results are on par with GEDmatch's oracle; which is why I'm skeptical about it.



Misleading is not the right word here, because the said Turkish samples are already West Eurasian in the bulk of their genetics thus overall genetics. So a person who wants to see the position of the bulk of the ancestry of those samples will naturally want to see their position on an exclusively West Eurasian PCA such as this:

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Thank you for posting the East Eurasian-removed results! Those results exactly confirm what I have stated in my previous post: "When we look at Anatolian Turks, we see that their West Eurasian ancestry, which makes up the bulk of their ancestry, is indeed most like their immediate neighbors in and around Anatolia." Various Greek and/or Armenian populations appear among the closest populations in the lists of Anatolian Turks when you remove the East Eurasian ancestry from Anatolian Turks, and the North Caucasus populations are pushed to much more distant positions. For Balkan Turks you do not even have to remove their East Eurasian to see that Bulgarians, Romanians, northern mainland Greeks and Albanians are among the closest populations to them genetically. Besides, I have not stated that the West Eurasian ancestry of Anatolian or Balkan Turks is exactly the same as their non-Turkic admixed neighbors, but still their non-Turkic-admixed neighbors are among the closest to them among all populations of the world because the Oghuz/Turcoman contribution makes up the minor part in their West Eurasian ancestry, the major part comes from native ancestry.
My point was that the East Eurasian admixture is not the only factor that makes Anatolian Turks plot closer to North Caucasus populations, the Turkic migration have affected their West Eurasian ancestry to some degree. As you can see, when their East Eurasian ancestry is removed they still shift towards some eastern population (represented usually by Yagnobis and Pamiris). I agree with your statement that the major part of their West Eurasian ancestry is native-derived.

Onur Dincer
08-19-2019, 10:52 PM
My point was that the East Eurasian admixture is not the only factor that makes Anatolian Turks plot closer to North Caucasus populations, the Turkic migration have affected their West Eurasian ancestry to some degree. As you can see, when their East Eurasian ancestry is removed they still shift towards some eastern population (represented usually by Yagnobis and Pamiris). I agree with your statement that the major part of their West Eurasian ancestry is native-derived.

Yes, I can see that eastern pull too. Still, without the East Eurasian ancestry, Anatolian Turks have various Greek and/or Armenian populations among the closest populations to them (even with the East Eurasian ancestry those populations can appear among the closest populations to them in some lists), and the North Caucasus populations are much more distant to them than when they were with their East Eurasian ancestry, which brings us back to my other point: "But when the East Eurasian pull of the calculator or analysis is strong, as in your Global 25 analysis, Anatolian Turks are positioned close to North Caucasus populations with similarly minor East Eurasian or any other eastern-pulling ancestry despite the fact that Anatolian Turks are not so close to North Caucasus populations in their West Eurasian and thus the bulk of their ancestry."

Anabasis
08-28-2019, 08:00 AM
Removing EA admixtures just show which type of non east easia
admixture does proto turks who came to anatolia have. Tajıks and afgans are realy best candidate for source of native pre turkic central asian admix along turks in central asia.

On the other hand as far as turk_north samples concerned thier scores seems either avaerage of giresun and trabzon samples or esespecialy selected from highest east euroasian samples which does not represent north east turkic genetc profile.

Sangarius
08-28-2019, 12:26 PM
From my experience they do. But I am talking based on experience. If you have some theoretical information backing your claim, I would like to hear it.

They don't. All components are treated as equi-distant in oracles of Admixture-based calculators.

DMXX
08-28-2019, 01:38 PM
My point was that the East Eurasian admixture is not the only factor that makes Anatolian Turks plot closer to North Caucasus populations, the Turkic migration have affected their West Eurasian ancestry to some degree. As you can see, when their East Eurasian ancestry is removed they still shift towards some eastern population (represented usually by Yagnobis and Pamiris). I agree with your statement that the major part of their West Eurasian ancestry is native-derived.

This looks correct to me.

All of the Medieval Turks (plus MA2195) reliably model as being around 60% East Eurasian:



Sample Details Fit Map KAZ Dali EBA MNG Hovsgol BA Oroqen RUS Sintashta MLBA TKM Gonur1 BA UZB Dzharkutan1 BA
1 Anatolia_Ottoman:MA2195 Ancient; CE:1400 3.0813 Open Map 0 50.2 9.6 21.8 10.8 7.6
2 KAZ_Karakhanid:Average 2.3016 Open Map 0 54.6 10 17.2 11.2 7
3 KAZ_Karluk:Average 3.4638 Open Map 0 52.4 8.6 17.4 12.4 9.2
4 KAZ_Kimak:Average 4.1867 Open Map 0 50.8 7 26 9.6 6.6
5 KAZ_Kipchak:Average 3.0276 Open Map 0 46.2 9 23.8 15.2 5.8


The remaining 40% West Eurasian is approximately split into two halves (MLBA steppe and Turanian agriculturalist). This combination is effectively what the Pamiris and Yaghnobis happen to be (albeit with ~40% MLBA steppe, where the deficit's made up with additional E. Eurasian and AASI, apart from the Rushan group). Circumstantially, we know this is correct, as the Turmenistan_IA sample is shown in qpAdm to also be a near-even mixture of those two halves, and Pamiris are the closest modern population to that sample.

The above breakdown does facilitate the idea that the Medieval Turks were a by-product of a wholly East Eurasian population merging with a Turkmenistan_IA-like group somewhere adjacent to the Kazakh steppe. However:



Sample Details Fit Map MNG Hovsgol BA Oroqen RUS Sintashta MLBA TKM Gonur1 BA UZB Dzharkutan1 BA
1 RUS_Altai_IA:Average 2.4005 Open Map 53.4 0 38.6 4.6 3.4


It becomes evident that there already was MLBA steppe and Turanian agriculturalist ancestry close to the inferred urheimat of proto-Turkic (somewhere between the Altai and Baikal). We know Karasuk looks similar. This renders the above notion as conjecture and untenable, unless exceptional data can be presented.

Onur Dincer
08-28-2019, 03:09 PM
Removing EA admixtures just show which type of non east easia
admixture does proto turks who came to anatolia have. Tajıks and afgans are realy best candidate for source of native pre turkic central asian admix along turks in central asia.

On the other hand as far as turk_north samples concerned thier scores seems either avaerage of giresun and trabzon samples or esespecialy selected from highest east euroasian samples which does not represent north east turkic genetc profile.

Actually the Indian component (MDLP World) in Anatolian and Balkan Turks largely comes from the Oghuz/Turcoman invaders/immigrants and/or the Iranian/Persian urban minority accompanying them to Anatolia and environs. So removing not just the East Eurasian components, but also the Indian component from Anatolian and Balkan Turks would give more sensible results for Alkaevli's exercise.

Onur Dincer
08-28-2019, 03:15 PM
They don't. All components are treated as equi-distant in oracles of Admixture-based calculators.

What is your suggestion to solve that problem? Global 25 scaled?

Onur Dincer
08-28-2019, 03:15 PM
Delete please.

Leper
08-28-2019, 03:47 PM
Removing EA admixtures just show which type of non east easia
admixture does proto turks who came to anatolia have. Tajıks and afgans are realy best candidate for source of native pre turkic central asian admix along turks in central asia.

On the other hand as far as turk_north samples concerned thier scores seems either avaerage of giresun and trabzon samples or esespecialy selected from highest east euroasian samples which does not represent north east turkic genetc profile.

Turk_North does not contain Turks from Trabzon or Rize. They are from Karabük, Ordu and Giresun mixed.

Onur Dincer
08-28-2019, 03:58 PM
This looks correct to me.

All of the Medieval Turks (plus MA2195) reliably model as being around 60% East Eurasian:



Sample Details Fit Map KAZ Dali EBA MNG Hovsgol BA Oroqen RUS Sintashta MLBA TKM Gonur1 BA UZB Dzharkutan1 BA
1 Anatolia_Ottoman:MA2195 Ancient; CE:1400 3.0813 Open Map 0 50.2 9.6 21.8 10.8 7.6
2 KAZ_Karakhanid:Average 2.3016 Open Map 0 54.6 10 17.2 11.2 7
3 KAZ_Karluk:Average 3.4638 Open Map 0 52.4 8.6 17.4 12.4 9.2
4 KAZ_Kimak:Average 4.1867 Open Map 0 50.8 7 26 9.6 6.6
5 KAZ_Kipchak:Average 3.0276 Open Map 0 46.2 9 23.8 15.2 5.8


The remaining 40% West Eurasian is approximately split into two halves (MLBA steppe and Turanian agriculturalist). This combination is effectively what the Pamiris and Yaghnobis happen to be (albeit with ~40% MLBA steppe, where the deficit's made up with additional E. Eurasian and AASI, apart from the Rushan group). Circumstantially, we know this is correct, as the Turmenistan_IA sample is shown in qpAdm to also be a near-even mixture of those two halves, and Pamiris are the closest modern population to that sample.

The above breakdown does facilitate the idea that the Medieval Turks were a by-product of a wholly East Eurasian population merging with a Turkmenistan_IA-like group somewhere adjacent to the Kazakh steppe. However:



Sample Details Fit Map MNG Hovsgol BA Oroqen RUS Sintashta MLBA TKM Gonur1 BA UZB Dzharkutan1 BA
1 RUS_Altai_IA:Average 2.4005 Open Map 53.4 0 38.6 4.6 3.4


It becomes evident that there already was MLBA steppe and Turanian agriculturalist ancestry close to the inferred urheimat of proto-Turkic (somewhere between the Altai and Baikal). We know Karasuk looks similar. This renders the above notion as conjecture and untenable, unless exceptional data can be presented.

Thanks for the exercises on medieval Central Asian Turks (including the MA2195 Oghuz/Turcoman sample from Anatolia) and probable Proto-Turks. Anyway, I think, due to the current lack of probable ancient DNA from Proto-Turks, it is better for the time being to concentrate on the post-Gokturk and pre-Mongol invasion medieval Central Asian Turkic samples we have to focus our attention on the Oghuz/Turcoman genetics and its contributions to modern Anatolian Turkish and Azeri genetics.

For this purpose, I have removed the largely irrelevant samples from some of Alkaevli's analyses.

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Magnetic
08-28-2019, 06:10 PM
@Alkaevli

here I made a neolithic modelling . you can see the east eurasian scores . I didnt make this modelling for this thread but might as well post it . maybe you are interested to see it

https://up.picr.de/36626512jp.jpg

Alkaevli
08-28-2019, 06:30 PM
Removing EA admixtures just show which type of non east easia
admixture does proto turks who came to anatolia have. Tajıks and afgans are realy best candidate for source of native pre turkic central asian admix along turks in central asia.

On the other hand as far as turk_north samples concerned thier scores seems either avaerage of giresun and trabzon samples or esespecialy selected from highest east euroasian samples which does not represent north east turkic genetc profile.

Trabzon is not part of Turkish_North. Turkish_North includes provinces from western and central parts of the Black Sea region. We have sent more than 40 raw data files to Davidski, all of which belong to the volunteers. The rest of the raw data files were useless as they belong to the individuals with mixed ancestry (either ethnically or regionally). So none of the samples was chosen. Turks from central and western parts of the Black Sea region (especially those from Giresun) have higher levels of East Eurasian ancestry than average.

The spreadsheet below dislays the Dodecad K12b results of more than 450 Turks.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pj2rBe3L-Jf89JFACjTC1hSRfI7EOps-zed1x0FFpbY/edit?usp=sharing

Alkaevli
08-28-2019, 06:36 PM
@Alkaevli

here I made a neolithic modelling . you can see the east eurasian scores . I didnt make this modelling for this thread but might as well post it . maybe you are interested to see it

https://up.picr.de/36626512jp.jpg

Thank you. Do you have the scaled coordinates of simulated AASI by the way? It was saved on my datasheet but I accidentally deleted the txt file containing it.

DMXX
08-28-2019, 06:37 PM
Thank you. Do you have the scaled coordinates of simulated AASI by the way? It was saved on my datasheet but I accidentally deleted the txt file containing it.

If it's my simulations, I can provide that shortly. Do let me know.

Alkaevli
08-28-2019, 06:40 PM
If it's my simulations, I can provide that shortly. Do let me know.

Yes, can you pm me the scaled coordinates?

Magnetic
08-28-2019, 06:40 PM
Thank you. Do you have the scaled coordinates of simulated AASI by the way? It was saved on my datasheet but I accidentally deleted the txt file containing it.

you are welcome

I dont . sorry

DMXX
08-28-2019, 09:30 PM
Thanks for the exercises on medieval Central Asian Turks (including the MA2195 Oghuz/Turcoman sample from Anatolia) and probable Proto-Turks. Anyway, I think, due to the current lack of probable ancient DNA from Proto-Turks, it is better for the time being to concentrate on the post-Gokturk and pre-Mongol invasion medieval Central Asian Turkic samples we have to focus our attention on the Oghuz/Turcoman genetics and its contributions to modern Anatolian Turkish and Azeri genetics.

For this purpose, I have removed the largely irrelevant samples from some of Alkaevli's analyses.


Agreed. My invocation of Altai_IA and Karasuk was to underscore the fact that there was Turanian agriculturalist ancestry in E-C Asia during the IA period at least, so a dichotomous interpretation of the Medieval Turk data (i.e. "they're a straight mix of Baikal HG-types with W. Eurasians from SC Asia") isn't feasible. Nobody's arguing in favour of that here, so it was a throwaway remark and comparison.

Returning to the analysis we can actually perform - I've attempted to characterise the various Medieval Turks with the lowest fits (non-overfitted) as possible (cyc=1k bat=500 pen=def):



Sample Details Fit Map IRN Hasanlu IA MNG Hovsgol BA Oroqen RUS Sintashta MLBA TKM Gonur1 BA UZB Dzharkutan1 BA
1 Anatolia_Ottoman:MA2195 Ancient; CE:1400 3.0743 Open Map 0.2 53.6 7 20.6 11.6 7
2 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA203 Ancient; CE:1050 3.2316 Open Map 1.6 50.6 11.8 15.6 14.4 6
3 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA204 Ancient; CE:1050 2.3029 Open Map 2.4 54.6 7.6 20.2 8.4 6.8
4 KAZ_Karakhanid:DA205 Ancient; CE:1050 2.7649 Open Map 1.6 60.4 10.6 14.4 7.8 5.2
5 KAZ_Karluk:DA222 Ancient; CE:900 3.4424 Open Map 1 54 9 19.6 11 5.4
6 KAZ_Karluk:DA230 Ancient; CE:900 4.5157 Open Map 0.6 50.4 8.8 17 13.4 9.8
7 KAZ_Kimak:DA87 Ancient; CE:807 4.1344 Open Map 0.6 49.6 7.6 24.4 12 5.8
8 KAZ_Kipchak:DA179 Ancient; CE:1200 5.4077 Open Map 36.6 21.4 6.4 22.6 13 0
9 KAZ_Kipchak:DA23 Ancient; CE:1070 2.7494 Open Map 0.8 65.4 8.6 18.8 4.8 1.6


Aside from Kipchak: DA179, they're predominantly East Eurasian (~59-73%). There's substantial variation in their scores (f.ex. MLBA steppe range = 15-24%). They clearly didn't descend from a population that had undergone homogenisation in their ancestral proportions. Having said that, the common motif of Hovsgol+Oroqen > Sintashta > Turanian agriculturalist does indicate they did descend from a single population (or highly related populations who underwent similar demic processes, though that distinction is arguably a semantic one).

As Alkaevli revealed several months ago, MA2195 looks like a Medieval Turkish transplant in Anatolia. Here, we see that once more. They are completely within the variation seen in the Karakhanid samples (and are near-identical to DA204).

DA179 is an unusual one - That ~35% NW Iranian_IA likely represents some form of Turanian agriculturalist ancestry that isn't well-captured by Gonur or Dzhar.

Given i) their heterogeneity, ii) the uncertainty surrounding the precise characterisation of the first Oghuz wave, and iii) the uncertainty regarding the genetic profile of the various Turkish tribes who migrated west and southwards, it strikes me as a parsimonious move to (somehow) include all six entities (MA2195, Karakhanids, Karluks, Kimak, Kipchak) into a single macro-group ("Medieval Turkish") when assessing the contribution of said group in modern Turkic-speaking West Asians. By not doing so, one is arguably exposing their modelling to inadvertent inclusion bias.

[Edit]: Given that we can't form new groups as ref pops in Poi's runner, it might be sensible to just pair the Kipchak and Karakhanid together. By doing so, one is covering most of the component variation seen in the entire group.

Sangarius
08-29-2019, 10:11 AM
What is your suggestion to solve that problem? Global 25 scaled?

Yes, it's the only amateur tool that I know that correctly calculates distances.

Alkaevli
08-29-2019, 05:18 PM
Sample

Distance

Greek_Crete

Cypriot

KAZ_Karluk

KAZ_Kimak

KAZ_Karakhanid

Anatolia_Ottoman:MA2195



Turkish_Northwest

2.0939

65.10

6.80

19.10

5.75

0.00

3.25



Turkish_Southwest

2.1302

45.60

24.80

17.35

6.15

1.10

5.00



Sample

Distance

Greek_Central_Anatolia

Cypriot

KAZ_Karluk

KAZ_Kimak

KAZ_Karakhanid

Anatolia_Ottoman:MA2195



Turkish_South

1.9401

70.10

0.00

24.00

5.90

0.00

0.00



Sample

Distance

Greek_Central_Anatolia

Greek_Trabzon

KAZ_Karluk

KAZ_Kimak

KAZ_Karakhanid

Anatolia_Ottoman:MA2195



Turkish_North

1.0504

38.70

31.65

6.90

16.10

6.65

0.00



Turkish_Central

1.1828

52.85

26.40

11.20

7.45

2.10

0.00

Onur Dincer
08-29-2019, 08:21 PM
Alkaevli,

Is it possible for you to repeat your previous MDLP World-based exercise this time removing both the East Eurasian components and the Indian component? As it is obvious that most of the Indian component (MDLP World) in Anatolian and Balkan Turks cannot be from natives.

Magnetic
08-29-2019, 10:38 PM
I modelled modern Turks using Anatolia Kaman Kalehöyük and Huns from Tian Shan samples from Kyrgyzstan . the Hun Tian Shan are possibly similar to the Oghuz that came to modern day Turkey . that is my personal guess from what I can tell

this is apparently a gedmatch kit number of Hun Tien Shan :

name : DA101 Tien Shan Hun . kit nr. : Z239204

I am not sure if the gedmatch kit number is among the samples in g25 . but it is probably very similar to them either way

and these are kit numbers of Anatolia Kaman Kalehöyük apparently : Z020190 . Z643830 , Z282612

this modelling shows clearly the Oghuz ancestry of modern Turks and shows that modern Turks are basically a mix of native anatolians and the oghuz . on gedmatch we could already see such an indication / pattern but with this g25 modelling it is even more clear I think

https://up.picr.de/36639411lo.jpg

however ....what I dont understand is why it doesnt work when I use Iron Age Anatolia instead of Bronze Age Anatolia . it looks as if the Iron Age Anatolian sample is already heavily oghuz admixed . which confuses me . but I will just leave it here

https://up.picr.de/36639462dd.jpg

Onur Dincer
08-30-2019, 01:36 AM
I modelled modern Turks using Anatolia Kaman Kalehöyük and Huns from Tian Shan samples from Kyrgyzstan . the Hun Tian Shan are possibly similar to the Oghuz that came to modern day Turkey . that is my personal guess from what I can tell

this is apparently a gedmatch kit number of Hun Tien Shan :

name : DA101 Tien Shan Hun . kit nr. : Z239204

I am not sure if the gedmatch kit number is among the samples in g25 . but it is probably very similar to them either way

and these are kit numbers of Anatolia Kaman Kalehöyük apparently : Z020190 . Z643830 , Z282612

this modelling shows clearly the Oghuz ancestry of modern Turks and shows that modern Turks are basically a mix of native anatolians and the oghuz . on gedmatch we could already see such an indication / pattern but with this g25 modelling it is even more clear I think

https://up.picr.de/36639411lo.jpg

however ....what I dont understand is why it doesnt work when I use Iron Age Anatolia instead of Bronze Age Anatolia . it looks as if the Iron Age Anatolian sample is already heavily oghuz admixed . which confuses me . but I will just leave it here

https://up.picr.de/36639462dd.jpg

You are using the wrong population to represent the pre-Turkic Anatolian gene pool. Anatolia Kaman-Kalehöyük lacks any steppe admixture while central Anatolian Greeks, who are the best representative of much of the pre-Turkic Anatolian gene pool, have non-negligible steppe admixture:

Target: Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
Distance: 2.8337% / 0.02833739
Aggregated
62.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.6 GEO_CHG
15.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
6.0 Levant_Natufian
0.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Greek_Central_Anatolia
Distance: 2.6916% / 0.02691646
Aggregated
53.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
18.6 GEO_CHG
15.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
7.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.8 Levant_Natufian

Also, population-wise, the best (or at least one of the best) representative of the Oghuz/Turcoman gene pool so far is KAZ_Karluk.

Compare:

Target: Turkish_Central
Distance: 1.5518% / 0.01551794
Aggregated
78.8 Greek_Central_Anatolia
21.2 KAZ_Karluk

Target: Turkish_Central
Distance: 2.0604% / 0.02060450
Aggregated
74.8 Greek_Central_Anatolia
25.2 Hun_Tian_Shan

Which makes sense as Karluks were contemporaries and close neighbors of Oghuz/Turcomans in Central Asia, and were also culturally and linguistically very close to them and were even designated as Turkman (Turcoman) for a time like the Oghuz.

Tian Shan Huns, on the other hand, are neither contemporaries of Oghuz/Turcomans nor lived close to their historical region in Central Asia, they are have a quite separate history from both Oghuz/Turcomans and Karluks and even their Turkic linguistic affiliation is very much in dispute today with many historians and linguists claiming an East Iranian language for them rather than Turkic. For more info about them, see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephthalites

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huna_people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xionites

Magnetic
08-30-2019, 03:40 AM
thanks Onur . but the tian shan huns are not far from the oghuz area . and they give good fits . but ok here the modelling with greek central anatolia and karluk . it is good

here are Karluk gedmatch kit numbers : Z710694 , Z342597



https://up.picr.de/36640285qt.jpg

Onur Dincer
08-30-2019, 05:40 AM
thanks Onur . but the tian shan huns are not far from the oghuz area . and they give good fits . but ok here the modelling with greek central anatolia and karluk . it is good

here are Karluk gedmatch kit numbers : Z710694 , Z342597



https://up.picr.de/36640285qt.jpg

You are welcome Magnetic. Alternatively, you can also add Cypriots and Cretans to better represent the pre-Turkic western Anatolian gene pool. Anyway, Alkaevli has already done pretty realistic analyses here:

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18060-New-Turkish-Samples-on-G25&p=595740&viewfull=1#post595740

Finally, since this is not a formal type of analysis, some "good" fits may actually be not so good after all considering all factors. When doing Global 25 analyses we should always bear this in mind and try to choose the references from the ones that not just fit mathematically but also historically/prehistorically and in overall genetics (in the case of the Tian Shan Hun samples the history/prehistory criterion is not fulfilled and some of their native Anatolian-leaning West Eurasian ancestry blurs the picture giving false positives thus not fulfilling the overall genetics criterion either).

Alain
08-30-2019, 05:48 AM
You are using the wrong population to represent the pre-Turkic Anatolian gene pool. Anatolia Kaman-Kalehöyük lacks any steppe admixture while central Anatolian Greeks, who are the best representative of much of the pre-Turkic Anatolian gene pool, have non-negligible steppe admixture:

Target: Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
Distance: 2.8337% / 0.02833739
Aggregated
62.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.6 GEO_CHG
15.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
6.0 Levant_Natufian
0.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Greek_Central_Anatolia
Distance: 2.6916% / 0.02691646
Aggregated
53.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
18.6 GEO_CHG
15.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
7.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.8 Levant_Natufian

Also, population-wise, the best (or at least one of the best) representative of the Oghuz/Turcoman gene pool so far is KAZ_Karluk.

Compare:

Target: Turkish_Central
Distance: 1.5518% / 0.01551794
Aggregated
78.8 Greek_Central_Anatolia
21.2 KAZ_Karluk

Target: Turkish_Central
Distance: 2.0604% / 0.02060450
Aggregated
74.8 Greek_Central_Anatolia
25.2 Hun_Tian_Shan

Which makes sense as Karluks were contemporaries and close neighbors of Oghuz/Turcomans in Central Asia, and were also culturally and linguistically very close to them and were even designated as Turkman (Turcoman) for a time like the Oghuz.

Tian Shan Huns, on the other hand, are neither contemporaries of Oghuz/Turcomans nor lived close to their historical region in Central Asia, they are have a quite separate history from both Oghuz/Turcomans and Karluks and even their Turkic linguistic affiliation is very much in dispute today with many historians and linguists claiming an East Iranian language for them rather than Turkic. For more info about them, see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephthalites

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huna_people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xionites
So you can say that the Huns in Central Asia and the northern subcontinent are the same people who invade Europe later? Of course, then the development was later different

Onur Dincer
08-30-2019, 06:11 AM
So you can say that the Huns in Central Asia and the northern subcontinent are the same people who invade Europe later? Of course, then the development was later different

It is almost certain that Huns who invaded Europe were genetically nothing like the Tian Shan Hun samples. We know this as we have Hun samples from the steppe region of Kazakhstan (the so-called Hun-Sarmatian samples), who are the Central Asian predecessors of European Huns archaeologically.

arget: KAZ_Hun-Sarmatian
Distance: 4.8697% / 0.04869679
Aggregated
70.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
29.4 RUS_Baikal_N
0.4 TKM_Gonur1_BA
0.0 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA

As you can see, the Hun-"Sarmatian" samples from Kazakhstan are pretty much pure East Eurasian in genetics and have very little, if any, to do with Tian Shan Huns, whoever Tian Shan Huns really are.

Alain
08-30-2019, 01:18 PM
It is almost certain that Huns who invaded Europe were genetically nothing like the Tian Shan Hun samples. We know this as we have Hun samples from the steppe region of Kazakhstan (the so-called Hun-Sarmatian samples), who are the Central Asian predecessors of European Huns archaeologically.

arget: KAZ_Hun-Sarmatian
Distance: 4.8697% / 0.04869679
Aggregated
70.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
29.4 RUS_Baikal_N
0.4 TKM_Gonur1_BA
0.0 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA

As you can see, the Hun-"Sarmatian" samples from Kazakhstan are pretty much pure East Eurasian in genetics and have very little, if any, to do with Tian Shan Huns, whoever Tian Shan Huns really are.

These are 2 different groups, you can see the name "Huns" more than prestige

DMXX
08-30-2019, 02:32 PM
The identity of the Huns remains an open question. Various historians ascribe an Iranian, pre-Mongolian or Turkish character to them, alongside other more obscure affiliations (f.ex. Ugric, Yeniseian). Their obscurity is entirely based on the meagre linguistic evidence we have of them. Some of the words (medos, strava) are very clearly Indo-European in origin. However, some of the names (Oktar specifically) do sound Turkic. The others are rather vague (depending on your perspective, Huldin and Balamber could have IE, Turkic and/or Mongolic etymologies).

Alain
08-30-2019, 06:30 PM
The Huns in Europe came more and more in contact of East Germanic and Slavic tribes a multi-ethnic mix
For example Serbia Gepid or Ostrogothic Crimea

Alkaevli
08-30-2019, 08:42 PM
I modelled modern Turks using Anatolia Kaman Kalehöyük and Huns from Tian Shan samples from Kyrgyzstan . the Hun Tian Shan are possibly similar to the Oghuz that came to modern day Turkey . that is my personal guess from what I can tell

this is apparently a gedmatch kit number of Hun Tien Shan :

name : DA101 Tien Shan Hun . kit nr. : Z239204

I am not sure if the gedmatch kit number is among the samples in g25 . but it is probably very similar to them either way

and these are kit numbers of Anatolia Kaman Kalehöyük apparently : Z020190 . Z643830 , Z282612

this modelling shows clearly the Oghuz ancestry of modern Turks and shows that modern Turks are basically a mix of native anatolians and the oghuz . on gedmatch we could already see such an indication / pattern but with this g25 modelling it is even more clear I think
https://up.picr.de/36639411lo.jpg
The fits are very good indeed, but the proxy populations are not. Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA does not really represent pre-Turkic Roman Anatolia as they lack the steppe ancestry that central Anatolian Greeks have. It is interesting to see that modern Anatolian Turks can be modeled as such with good fits though.



however ....what I dont understand is why it doesnt work when I use Iron Age Anatolia instead of Bronze Age Anatolia . it looks as if the Iron Age Anatolian sample is already heavily oghuz admixed . which confuses me . but I will just leave it here

https://up.picr.de/36639462dd.jpg
Anatolia_IA:MA2198 is within the modern Anatolian Turkish genetic cluster and I think the sample was somehow taken from a late Ottoman period skeleton. See this post: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?17830-Genetic-transformation-of-Anatolia-from-Global-K25-s-perspective&p=584627&viewfull=1#post584627

The other Iron Age Anatolian sample, Anatolia_IA:MA2197 (low_res) resembles modern Adriatic populations and is far from being a good proxy for pre-Turkic Anatolia too.

Alkaevli
08-30-2019, 08:46 PM
Alkaevli,

Is it possible for you to repeat your previous MDLP World-based exercise this time removing both the East Eurasian components and the Indian component? As it is obvious that most of the Indian component (MDLP World) in Anatolian and Balkan Turks cannot be from natives.
I will try to post it tomorrow.


Tian Shan Huns, on the other hand, are neither contemporaries of Oghuz/Turcomans nor lived close to their historical region in Central Asia, they are have a quite separate history from both Oghuz/Turcomans and Karluks and even their Turkic linguistic affiliation is very much in dispute today with many historians and linguists claiming an East Iranian language for them rather than Turkic. For more info about them, see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephthalites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huna_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xionites

As you can see, the Hun-"Sarmatian" samples from Kazakhstan are pretty much pure East Eurasian in genetics and have very little, if any, to do with Tian Shan Huns, whoever Tian Shan Huns really are.
The difference between the Saka period Tian Shan samples and the Hunnic period Tian Shan samples is that the latter have higher level of East Eurasian admixture and Y-DNA haplogroups, so there must have been a gene flow from the east. I know there is no consensus on the language spoken by any Hunnic group or the Xiongnu itself, but I believe all of the tribal confederations under the name Hun/Xyon/Huna in different parts of Eurasia were ultimately related to Xiongnu. It is beyond coincidence that all of them had similar names (Hun in Europe, Huna in India, Xyon in Persia and so on).

There is also a specific R1b subclade (PH155) that links VIM_2 (the Gepid sample with ~20% East Eurasian ancestry and artificial skull deformation) and DA81 (Tian Shan Hun) to DA41 (Xiongnu), which supports the theory that Huns in Europe and Central Asia were related to Xiongnu.

Alkaevli
08-31-2019, 09:30 AM
https://abload.de/img/grafyyjcm.png

When South Asian too is removed, West Anatolian Turks get modeled as Pontus + East European instead of Aegean + Yagnobi/Pamir.

Turk_Bulgaria without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Gagauz @ 6,406302
2. Bulgarian @ 6,806776
3. Pomak @ 7,48518
4. Romanian_South @ 8,643616
5. Albanian_Kosovo @ 9,047547
6. Greek_Peloponnese @ 9,075537
7. Albanian_North @ 9,559894
8. Albanian_South @ 9,649113
9. Greek_Thessaly @ 10,38945
10. Macedonian @ 10,575495
11. Romanian_North @ 12,810121
12. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12,862309
13. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 14,079262
14. Jew_Romania @ 14,10263
15. Montenegrin @ 14,439419
16. Serb @ 15,142523
17. Italian_Center @ 15,230453
18. Bosnian @ 17,166295
19. Greek_Azov @ 17,333165
20. Greek_Chios @ 17,871441


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %36 Armenian_West + %64 Croat @ 1,086411
2. %16 Georgian_Chveneburi + %84 Pomak @ 1,096415
3. %16 Georgian_Mingrelian + %84 Pomak @ 1,105346
4. %64 Croat + %36 Greek_Pontus @ 1,119772
5. %42 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %58 Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,140827
6. %52 Greek_Cappadocia + %48 Slovakian @ 1,153205
7. %84 Pomak + %16 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 1,169885
8. %30 Greek_Pontus + %70 Serb @ 1,198555
9. %33 Armenian_West + %67 Bosnian @ 1,319401
10. %15 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %85 Pomak @ 1,336252
11. %86 Bulgarian + %14 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,371679
12. %16 Abkhazian + %84 Pomak @ 1,377425
13. %56 Greek_Cappadocia + %44 Swedish_V @ 1,410359
14. %27 Greek_Pontus + %73 Romanian_North @ 1,420249
15. %17 Laz + %83 Pomak @ 1,424752
16. %89 Bulgarian + %11 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,496994
17. %60 Greek_Ikaria + %40 Sintashta @ 1,498607
18. %67 Bosnian + %33 Greek_Pontus @ 1,537491
19. %85 Bulgarian + %15 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 1,54654
20. %63 British + %37 Jew_Iran @ 1,554852


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %3 Corsican + %41 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %56 Greek_Cappadocia @ 0,725579
2. %1 Bra1 + %42 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %57 Greek_Cappadocia @ 0,73246
3. %42 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %56 Greek_Cappadocia + %2 Sardinian @ 0,735242
4. %45 Greek_Pontus + %45 Polish_V + %10 Sardinian @ 0,804725
5. %13 Anatolia_Neolithic + %36 Laz + %51 Ukrainian_West @ 0,83649
6. %1 Bra2 + %42 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %57 Greek_Cappadocia @ 0,875452
7. %73 Bulgarian + %20 Laz + %7 Lithuanian @ 0,894332
8. %73 Bulgarian + %7 Latvian + %20 Laz @ 0,896936
9. %20 Alan:DA162 + %64 Greek_Peloponnese + %16 Latvian @ 0,925454
10. %20 Alan:DA162 + %63 Greek_Peloponnese + %17 Lithuanian @ 0,925522
11. %37 Latvian + %45 Laz + %18 Sardinian @ 0,942853
12. %24 Anatolia_Neolithic + %38 Georgian_Mingrelian + %38 Lithuanian @ 0,944987
13. %42 Greek_Pontus + %12 Sardinian + %46 Ukrainian_East @ 0,946091
14. %14 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %85 Pomak + %1 Saudi @ 0,951065
15. %46 Armenian_West + %45 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %9 Sardinian @ 0,955504
16. %41 Greek_Pontus + %9 Sardinian + %50 Ukrainian_West @ 0,958017
17. %1 Jew_Yemen + %14 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %85 Pomak @ 0,959521
18. %2 Afanasievo + %17 Laz + %81 Pomak @ 0,96475
19. %20 Alan:DA162 + %19 Belarusian + %61 Greek_Peloponnese @ 0,968892
20. %73 Bulgarian + %7 Estonian + %20 Laz @ 0,970835


Turk_Northwest without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 3,724595
2. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 6,523312
3. Greek_Cappadocia @ 9,806356
4. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 11,484077
5. Greek_Crete @ 11,610825
6. Greek_Chios @ 11,913079
7. Greek_Dodecanese @ 11,990735
8. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,273856
9. Karachay @ 14,941899
10. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 15,046836
11. Greek_Cyprus @ 15,209232
12. Alan:DA162 @ 15,277724
13. Azerbaijani @ 15,460937
14. Jew_Romania @ 15,660231
15. Balkar @ 15,901588
16. Circassian @ 16,139868
17. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 16,406778
18. Greek_Pontus @ 16,602532
19. Anatolia_Bronze_Age @ 16,711173
20. Alan:DA243 @ 16,807347


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %78 Greek_Pontus + %22 Lithuanian_V @ 1,165224
2. %74 Greek_Pontus + %26 Ukrainian_West @ 1,191751
3. %76 Greek_Pontus + %24 Polish_V @ 1,193174
4. %75 Greek_Pontus + %25 Ukrainian @ 1,203683
5. %23 Belarusian + %77 Greek_Pontus @ 1,209367
6. %77 Greek_Pontus + %23 Polish @ 1,249419
7. %74 Greek_Pontus + %26 Ukrainian_Center @ 1,325928
8. %75 Greek_Pontus + %25 Ukrainian_East @ 1,335757
9. %24 Belarusian_V + %76 Greek_Pontus @ 1,372535
10. %74 Greek_Pontus + %26 Ukrainian_V @ 1,376722
11. %75 Greek_Pontus + %25 Russian_Cossack @ 1,454765
12. %77 Greek_Pontus + %23 Russian_Center @ 1,485581
13. %76 Armenian_West + %24 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 @ 1,513104
14. %75 Greek_Pontus + %25 Sorb @ 1,524278
15. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Lithuanian @ 1,529013
16. %77 Greek_Pontus + %23 Russian @ 1,552926
17. %76 Greek_Pontus + %24 Russian_South @ 1,556515
18. %76 Greek_Pontus + %24 Russian_V @ 1,622842
19. %24 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %76 Greek_Pontus @ 1,64107
20. %16 Afanasievo + %84 Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,699155


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %35 Croat + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Samaritian @ 0,463081
2. %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Norwegian_V + %28 Samaritian @ 0,500182
3. %36 Bosnian + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %23 Samaritian @ 0,517964
4. %43 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %25 Samaritian + %32 Slovenian @ 0,612563
5. %32 German_V + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,632165
6. %11 Jew_Yemen + %43 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %46 Pomak @ 0,637341
7. %46 Bulgarian + %12 Jew_Yemen + %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,650806
8. %40 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %39 Romanian_North + %21 Samaritian @ 0,653381
9. %31 CEU_V + %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,661029
10. %19 Jew_Yemen + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %32 Orcadian @ 0,68989
11. %33 British + %19 Jew_Yemen + %48 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,700934
12. %6 Jew_Yemen + %58 Laz + %36 Serb @ 0,769821
13. %74 Greek_Pontus + %7 Italian_Center + %19 Lithuanian @ 0,783894
14. %6 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %75 Greek_Pontus + %19 Latvian @ 0,798643
15. %40 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %22 Samaritian + %38 Serb @ 0,800787
16. %5 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %75 Greek_Pontus + %20 Lithuanian @ 0,803952
17. %73 Greek_Pontus + %9 Italian_Center + %18 Latvian @ 0,822635
18. %77 Greek_Pontus + %20 Latvian + %3 Sardinian @ 0,839499
19. %18 Jew_Yemen + %50 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %32 Welsh @ 0,840602
20. %77 Greek_Pontus + %21 Lithuanian_V + %2 Otzi @ 0,866042



Turk_Southwest without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 5,399325
2. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,195769
3. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 8,958208
4. Greek_Dodecanese @ 11,462904
5. Greek_Crete @ 12,270758
6. Greek_Chios @ 12,69531
7. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,774576
8. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 13,073057
9. Greek_Pontus @ 13,217329
10. Greek_Cyprus @ 13,504369
11. Azerbaijani @ 13,517356
12. Armenian_West @ 13,58979
13. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 14,067804
14. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 14,083992
15. Karachay @ 14,75959
16. Alan:DA162 @ 14,873951
17. Anatolia_Bronze_Age @ 15,123886
18. Balkar @ 15,328747
19. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 15,329009
20. Circassian @ 15,381565


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Ukrainian_West @ 1,115514
2. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Polish_V @ 1,160529
3. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Ukrainian @ 1,226212
4. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Polish @ 1,248527
5. %19 Belarusian_V + %81 Greek_Pontus @ 1,260044
6. %83 Greek_Pontus + %17 Lithuanian_V @ 1,271898
7. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Ukrainian_V @ 1,292853
8. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Sorb @ 1,306543
9. %18 Belarusian + %82 Greek_Pontus @ 1,307134
10. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Ukrainian_Center @ 1,322845
11. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Ukrainian_East @ 1,358155
12. %19 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %81 Greek_Pontus @ 1,38331
13. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Russian_Cossack @ 1,406811
14. %82 Greek_Pontus + %18 Ire8 @ 1,453732
15. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Russian_Center @ 1,504683
16. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Russian_South @ 1,512561
17. %83 Greek_Pontus + %17 Lithuanian @ 1,54387
18. %82 Greek_Pontus + %18 Russian @ 1,548621
19. %88 Greek_Cappadocia + %12 Yamnaya_Samara @ 1,577744
20. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Russian_V @ 1,584548


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %46 Jew_Syria + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %17 Polish_V @ 0,534306
2. %45 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Ukrainian_West @ 0,543415
3. %38 Bulgarian + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %21 Samaritian @ 0,546313
4. %26 CEU + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,572869
5. %14 Jew_Yemen + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %37 Macedonian @ 0,574429
6. %15 Jew_Yemen + %50 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %35 Montenegrin @ 0,600579
7. %46 Jew_Syria + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %17 Polish @ 0,601595
8. %41 Gagauz + %13 Jew_Yemen + %46 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,60963
9. %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian + %26 Welsh @ 0,624392
10. %46 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Ukrainian @ 0,627197
11. %26 British + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,632014
12. %46 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Ukrainian_East @ 0,643037
13. %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %26 Orcadian + %29 Samaritian @ 0,650791
14. %46 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,651011
15. %45 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Ukrainian_V @ 0,663091
16. %18 Belarusian_V + %45 Jew_Syria + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,672672
17. %31 German_South + %18 Jew_Yemen + %51 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,681755
18. %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %37 Pomak + %21 Samaritian @ 0,686056
19. %27 Austrian + %46 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,713066
20. %46 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Sorb @ 0,727564


Turk_West_Black_Sea without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 4,683856
2. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,919564
3. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 8,357445
4. Greek_Dodecanese @ 11,739914
5. Greek_Crete @ 12,245281
6. Greek_Chios @ 12,636396
7. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,729407
8. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 13,44461
9. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 13,521191
10. Azerbaijani @ 13,955211
11. Greek_Pontus @ 14,044834
12. Greek_Cyprus @ 14,154645
13. Armenian_West @ 14,459391
14. Karachay @ 14,546282
15. Alan:DA162 @ 14,596185
16. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 14,944325
17. Balkar @ 15,179351
18. Circassian @ 15,268973
19. Anatolia_Bronze_Age @ 15,634856
20. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 15,845489


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %78 Greek_Pontus + %22 Ukrainian_West @ 0,967575
2. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Polish_V @ 0,970446
3. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Ukrainian @ 1,034923
4. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Polish @ 1,059699
5. %21 Belarusian_V + %79 Greek_Pontus @ 1,082529
6. %78 Greek_Pontus + %22 Ukrainian_Center @ 1,119701
7. %78 Greek_Pontus + %22 Ukrainian_V @ 1,134918
8. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Sorb @ 1,146201
9. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Ukrainian_East @ 1,158707
10. %20 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %80 Greek_Pontus @ 1,167122
11. %82 Greek_Pontus + %18 Lithuanian_V @ 1,168395
12. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Russian_Cossack @ 1,26624
13. %19 Belarusian + %81 Greek_Pontus @ 1,274964
14. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Russian_South @ 1,294917
15. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Russian_Center @ 1,369235
16. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Russian @ 1,479408
17. %82 Greek_Pontus + %18 Lithuanian @ 1,491762
18. %86 Greek_Cappadocia + %14 Yamnaya_Samara @ 1,543509
19. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Russian_V @ 1,576299
20. %78 Greek_Pontus + %22 Slovakian @ 1,587453


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %39 Pomak + %19 Samaritian @ 0,450458
2. %29 Austrian + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %26 Samaritian @ 0,469826
3. %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian + %27 Welsh @ 0,474362
4. %40 Bulgarian + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Samaritian @ 0,555935
5. %28 German_V + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,620689
6. %13 Jew_Yemen + %48 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %39 Macedonian @ 0,62727
7. %27 CEU + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,665335
8. %27 CEU_V + %46 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,665343
9. %43 Gagauz + %12 Jew_Yemen + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,66754
10. %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Orcadian + %28 Samaritian @ 0,687419
11. %15 Jew_Yemen + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %36 Montenegrin @ 0,760039
12. %32 German_South + %17 Jew_Yemen + %51 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,772258
13. %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %38 Romanian_South + %20 Samaritian @ 0,776389
14. %27 British + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,782111
15. %29 Croat + %6 Jew_Yemen + %65 Laz @ 0,823773
16. %42 Jew_Syria + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %21 Ukrainian_West @ 0,827512
17. %4 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %79 Greek_Pontus + %17 Lithuanian @ 0,841012
18. %27 German_V + %8 Jew_Yemen + %65 Laz @ 0,846507
19. %6 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %78 Greek_Pontus + %16 Latvian @ 0,868584
20. %81 Greek_Pontus + %17 Lithuanian + %2 Sardinian @ 0,877548



Turk_Anatolia_Central-west without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,008617
2. Greek_Azov @ 8,053814
3. Greek_Pontus @ 10,56389
4. Armenian_West @ 10,872938
5. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 11,189549
6. Azerbaijani @ 11,566188
7. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 11,743454
8. Zaza @ 12,878824
9. Greek_Dodecanese @ 12,957006
10. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 13,011568
11. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 13,083923
12. Laz @ 13,158113
13. Turkmen_Iraq @ 13,406342
14. Greek_Cyprus @ 13,673741
15. Assyrian @ 14,064259
16. Alan:DA162 @ 14,305866
17. Karachay @ 14,370487
18. Circassian @ 14,373563
19. Greek_Crete @ 14,469269
20. Balkar @ 14,559508


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %87 Greek_Pontus + %13 Latvian @ 0,897938
2. %86 Greek_Pontus + %14 Lithuanian @ 0,921929
3. %13 Estonian + %87 Greek_Pontus @ 1,002546
4. %86 Greek_Pontus + %14 Lithuanian_V @ 1,038496
5. %15 Belarusian + %85 Greek_Pontus @ 1,054944
6. %85 Greek_Pontus + %15 Russian_Center @ 1,111638
7. %86 Greek_Pontus + %14 Russian @ 1,137317
8. %85 Greek_Pontus + %15 Russian_V @ 1,202837
9. %84 Greek_Pontus + %16 Ukrainian_East @ 1,230197
10. %85 Greek_Pontus + %15 Polish @ 1,294356
11. %86 Greek_Pontus + %14 Inkeri @ 1,297685
12. %84 Greek_Pontus + %16 Ukrainian @ 1,328522
13. %84 Greek_Pontus + %16 Russian_South @ 1,332779
14. %84 Greek_Pontus + %16 Ukrainian_Center @ 1,355871
15. %84 Greek_Pontus + %16 Russian_Cossack @ 1,417765
16. %85 Greek_Pontus + %15 Polish_V @ 1,466568
17. %83 Greek_Pontus + %17 Ukrainian_West @ 1,509334
18. %83 Greek_Pontus + %17 Ukrainian_V @ 1,515974
19. %14 Finnish + %86 Greek_Pontus @ 1,536879
20. %15 Belarusian_V + %85 Greek_Pontus @ 1,608668


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %23 Austrian + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,465077
2. %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Samaritian + %21 Welsh @ 0,555663
3. %47 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %31 Pomak + %22 Samaritian @ 0,563295
4. %31 Bulgarian + %46 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %23 Samaritian @ 0,589578
5. %39 Druze + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Serb @ 0,604059
6. %22 German_V + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,606885
7. %26 German_South + %18 Jew_Yemen + %56 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,632627
8. %22 CEU_V + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,634813
9. %16 Jew_Yemen + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %31 Macedonian @ 0,6448
10. %17 Jew_Yemen + %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Montenegrin @ 0,649493
11. %47 Jew_Syria + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %12 Latvian @ 0,657325
12. %34 Gagauz + %15 Jew_Yemen + %51 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,665887
13. %47 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Romanian_South + %23 Samaritian @ 0,674956
14. %44 Druze + %19 German_North + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,675777
15. %47 Jew_Syria + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %12 Lithuanian @ 0,685506
16. %22 Croat + %41 Druze + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,685793
17. %22 Croat + %7 Jew_Yemen + %71 Laz @ 0,695441
18. %22 CEU + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,696669
19. %48 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Romanian_North + %25 Samaritian @ 0,705243
20. %25 Bosnian + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %26 Samaritian @ 0,726041


Turk_Anatolia_Central-east without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Pontus @ 7,968525
2. Armenian_West @ 8,100778
3. Greek_Cappadocia @ 8,145435
4. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 9,781237
5. Azerbaijani @ 10,030509
6. Zaza @ 10,351721
7. Laz @ 10,374188
8. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 10,820643
9. Greek_Azov @ 11,154465
10. Turkmen_Iraq @ 11,183605
11. Assyrian @ 11,393806
12. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 12,315556
13. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,60646
14. Kurd_Sorani @ 12,673781
15. Talysh @ 12,79691
16. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 12,823615
17. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 13,894474
18. Circassian @ 13,999618
19. Georgian_Chveneburi @ 14,226119
20. Alan:DA162 @ 14,446805


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %9 Finnish_North + %91 Greek_Pontus @ 1,446123
2. %10 Finnish_South + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,48198
3. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Vepsa @ 1,486852
4. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Karelian @ 1,541361
5. %10 Finnish + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,632704
6. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Inkeri @ 1,742739
7. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian @ 1,824543
8. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_North @ 1,849804
9. %10 Estonian + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,859851
10. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Sintashta @ 1,909
11. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Lithuanian @ 1,957765
12. %14 Andronovo + %86 Armenian_West @ 2,002766
13. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Mordovian @ 2,012829
14. %13 Andronovo + %87 Greek_Pontus @ 2,07745
15. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian @ 2,146562
16. %11 Belarusian + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 2,173268
17. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_Center @ 2,183184
18. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_V @ 2,18775
19. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Lithuanian_V @ 2,199785
20. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Komi @ 2,326437


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %17 Jew_Yemen + %58 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %25 Macedonian @ 0,430079
2. %19 Croat + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,432549
3. %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %16 Norwegian_V + %31 Samaritian @ 0,444821
4. %52 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %21 Romanian_North + %27 Samaritian @ 0,482811
5. %27 Gagauz + %16 Jew_Yemen + %57 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,505782
6. %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Samaritian + %16 Swedish @ 0,50841
7. %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian + %17 Slovenian @ 0,51143
8. %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian + %20 Serb @ 0,535212
9. %18 Jew_Yemen + %59 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %23 Montenegrin @ 0,53843
10. %19 Bosnian + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,54527
11. %46 Druze + %13 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,560912
12. %41 Jew_Georgia + %35 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Pomak @ 0,579768
13. %21 German_South + %19 Jew_Yemen + %60 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,579938
14. %17 CEU_V + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Samaritian @ 0,581452
15. %24 Bulgarian + %42 Jew_Georgia + %34 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,581895
16. %16 German_North + %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Samaritian @ 0,588077
17. %17 German_V + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Samaritian @ 0,591211
18. %17 Czech + %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,60218
19. %27 Gagauz + %40 Jew_Iraqi + %33 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,637014
20. %18 Hungarian + %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,640291


Turk_Anatolia_Central-Black-Sea without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,634627
2. Greek_Pontus @ 8,135354
3. Armenian_West @ 8,54756
4. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 10,168224
5. Azerbaijani @ 10,470926
6. Greek_Azov @ 10,47658
7. Laz @ 10,542957
8. Zaza @ 11,005649
9. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 11,484933
10. Turkmen_Iraq @ 11,880867
11. Assyrian @ 12,089036
12. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,884178
13. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 12,976082
14. Talysh @ 13,357031
15. Kurd_Sorani @ 13,410633
16. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 13,421895
17. Circassian @ 13,952523
18. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 14,131284
19. Alan:DA162 @ 14,201535
20. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 14,303541


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian @ 1,25915
2. %10 Estonian + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,307146
3. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Inkeri @ 1,338798
4. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Lithuanian @ 1,374455
5. %10 Finnish_South + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,424208
6. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Karelian @ 1,433155
7. %10 Finnish + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,451931
8. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian @ 1,495747
9. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_North @ 1,526091
10. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Mordovian @ 1,531872
11. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_Center @ 1,542926
12. %11 Belarusian + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,544953
13. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Lithuanian_V @ 1,591457
14. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Vepsa @ 1,593409
15. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Russian_V @ 1,600349
16. %14 Andronovo + %86 Greek_Pontus @ 1,632706
17. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Ukrainian_East @ 1,636267
18. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Russian_South @ 1,645404
19. %10 Finnish_North + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,711296
20. %87 Greek_Pontus + %13 Sintashta @ 1,755624


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %51 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %25 Pomak + %24 Samaritian @ 0,428431
2. %25 Bulgarian + %51 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Samaritian @ 0,438338
3. %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian + %17 Welsh @ 0,439741
4. %19 Austrian + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,466585
5. %18 German_V + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,520461
6. %18 CEU + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,527792
7. %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %17 Orcadian + %30 Samaritian @ 0,550069
8. %18 CEU_V + %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,572719
9. %41 Jew_Georgia + %35 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Macedonian @ 0,599516
10. %52 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Romanian_South + %24 Samaritian @ 0,60463
11. %18 British + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,608062
12. %52 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %22 Romanian_North + %26 Samaritian @ 0,660396
13. %17 Jew_Yemen + %59 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Montenegrin @ 0,664941
14. %26 Gagauz + %39 Jew_Georgia + %35 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,665953
15. %20 Bosnian + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,687662
16. %40 Druze + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Serb @ 0,722844
17. %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian + %18 Slovenian @ 0,726945
18. %16 Jew_Yemen + %58 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %26 Macedonian @ 0,738273
19. %6 Jew_Yemen + %75 Laz + %19 Serb @ 0,744234
20. %20 Croat + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,759761


Turk_Anatolia_South without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Cappadocia @ 8,331146
2. Armenian_West @ 8,78876
3. Greek_Pontus @ 8,89063
4. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 9,720746
5. Azerbaijani @ 9,953563
6. Zaza @ 10,511206
7. Greek_Azov @ 10,769539
8. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 10,788273
9. Turkmen_Iraq @ 11,162685
10. Laz @ 11,306657
11. Assyrian @ 11,704603
12. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 12,430087
13. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,508634
14. Kurd_Sorani @ 12,698025
15. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 12,844252
16. Talysh @ 12,946236
17. Circassian @ 13,993742
18. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 14,304137
19. Balkar @ 14,402173
20. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 14,414997


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %11 Finnish_North + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,483491
2. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Vepsa @ 1,613405
3. %11 Finnish_South + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,695326
4. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Karelian @ 1,799961
5. %15 Andronovo + %85 Armenian_West @ 1,86764
6. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Sintashta @ 1,897493
7. %11 Finnish + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,921949
8. %60 Greek_Azov + %40 Jew_Tat @ 2,005534
9. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Inkeri @ 2,167566
10. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Russian_North @ 2,179302
11. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Russian_South @ 2,192335
12. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Ukrainian_East @ 2,207316
13. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Lithuanian @ 2,20799
14. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Russian_Center @ 2,216079
15. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Estonian @ 2,219144
16. %61 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %39 Italian_Center @ 2,22764
17. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Latvian @ 2,228137
18. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Russian @ 2,232727
19. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Mordovian @ 2,251403
20. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Inkeri @ 2,257888


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %46 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %15 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,538204
2. %46 Druze + %40 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %14 Polish @ 0,555967
3. %20 British + %21 Jew_Yemen + %59 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,5582
4. %46 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %15 Ukrainian_East @ 0,558457
5. %47 Druze + %40 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %13 Lithuanian_V @ 0,558633
6. %28 Bulgarian + %17 Jew_Yemen + %55 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,561325
7. %47 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %14 Polish_V @ 0,569202
8. %21 Jew_Yemen + %60 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Orcadian @ 0,619527
9. %46 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %15 Ukrainian @ 0,626389
10. %16 Jew_Yemen + %56 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Pomak @ 0,63887
11. %49 Druze + %35 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %16 Sintashta @ 0,649349
12. %47 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %14 Russian_South @ 0,653965
13. %17 Jew_Yemen + %56 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Romanian_South @ 0,672167
14. %46 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %15 Ukrainian_West @ 0,7021
15. %46 Druze + %40 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %14 Russian_Center @ 0,704445
16. %13 Belarusian + %46 Druze + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,708374
17. %20 CEU + %21 Jew_Yemen + %59 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,713245
18. %14 Belarusian_V + %47 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,725391
19. %21 Jew_Yemen + %60 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Welsh @ 0,731415
20. %46 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %15 Ukrainian_V @ 0,734116


Turk_Anatolia_Southeast without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Armenian_West @ 6,250552
2. Greek_Pontus @ 7,314601
3. Zaza @ 7,416745
4. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 8,182243
5. Assyrian @ 8,194328
6. Turkmen_Iraq @ 8,382291
7. Azerbaijani @ 8,98556
8. Laz @ 8,996832
9. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 9,079987
10. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 9,166238
11. Kurd_Sorani @ 9,307519
12. Talysh @ 10,231535
13. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 10,304402
14. Jew_Azerbaijan @ 10,730196
15. Jew_Uzbekistan @ 11,035543
16. Lur_Iran @ 11,350651
17. Jew_Tat @ 11,356747
18. Greek_Cappadocia @ 11,657825
19. Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 12,269818
20. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 12,335689


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %44 Alan:DA162 + %56 Jew_Georgia @ 1,627343
2. %9 Afanasievo + %91 Armenian_West @ 2,179161
3. %90 Armenian_West + %10 Yamnaya_Samara @ 2,300945
4. %40 Greek_Dodecanese + %60 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 2,438058
5. %63 Jew_Georgia + %37 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA190 @ 2,501215
6. %51 Greek_Cappadocia + %49 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 2,598796
7. %48 Alan:DA162 + %52 Jew_Iraqi @ 2,643779
8. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Sarmatian:tem002 @ 2,736565
9. %36 Greek_Chios + %64 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 2,739411
10. %37 Greek_Crete + %63 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 2,741613
11. %42 Greek_Azov + %58 Jew_Tat @ 2,786506
12. %71 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %29 Sicilian @ 2,811774
13. %90 Armenian_West + %10 Sarmatian:tem003 @ 2,846576
14. %49 Alan:DA162 + %51 Druze @ 2,903742
15. %36 Greek_Ikaria + %64 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 2,936139
16. %45 Chechen + %55 Druze @ 2,993581
17. %33 Alan:DA162 + %67 Assyrian @ 2,99947
18. %37 Alan:DA243 + %63 Jew_Georgia @ 3,013808
19. %26 Alan:DA243 + %74 Assyrian @ 3,019334
20. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Sarmatian:chy001 @ 3,096575


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %62 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Pomak + %20 Saudi @ 0,581492
2. %13 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %22 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,630059
3. %13 Czech + %22 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,642079
4. %13 German_North + %22 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,645177
5. %13 German + %22 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,648106
6. %22 Jew_Yemen + %66 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %12 Swedish @ 0,652679
7. %19 Bulgarian + %61 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %20 Saudi @ 0,658934
8. %22 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %13 Slovakian @ 0,665468
9. %22 Jew_Yemen + %66 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %12 Swedish_V @ 0,69724
10. %9 Ire8 + %56 Jew_Georgia + %35 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,705378
11. %64 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %13 Orcadian + %23 Saudi @ 0,709858
12. %13 British + %64 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %23 Saudi @ 0,735819
13. %14 Hungarian + %21 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,736978
14. %14 Austrian + %64 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %22 Saudi @ 0,744979
15. %63 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %16 Romanian_North + %21 Saudi @ 0,770694
16. %64 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %23 Saudi + %13 Welsh @ 0,77343
17. %62 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Romanian_South + %20 Saudi @ 0,775025
18. %21 Jew_Yemen + %63 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %16 Serb @ 0,799259
19. %15 Bosnian + %64 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %21 Saudi @ 0,810803
20. %22 Jew_Yemen + %66 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %12 Sorb @ 0,813047


Turk_Anatolia_East without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Armenian_West @ 7,005833
2. Greek_Pontus @ 7,358157
3. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 7,43109
4. Zaza @ 7,491835
5. Azerbaijani @ 7,511245
6. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 8,156494
7. Turkmen_Iraq @ 8,245441
8. Laz @ 8,838385
9. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 9,56965
10. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 9,680267
11. Assyrian @ 9,684084
12. Kurd_Sorani @ 9,724042
13. Talysh @ 9,879574
14. Greek_Cappadocia @ 10,895845
15. Lur_Iran @ 11,515778
16. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 11,807933
17. Georgian_Chveneburi @ 12,275803
18. Jew_Azerbaijan @ 12,648232
19. Jew_Uzbekistan @ 12,939299
20. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 13,300081


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %85 Armenian_West + %15 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA58 @ 2,740933
2. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Sarmatian:chy002 @ 2,755818
3. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Sarmatian:DA30 @ 2,778955
4. %54 Druze + %46 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA190 @ 2,800326
5. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Sarmatian:tem002 @ 2,800716
6. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Sarmatian:tem003 @ 2,810761
7. %46 Greek_Cappadocia + %54 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 2,836638
8. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA57 @ 2,838299
9. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Wusun:DA223 @ 2,848861
10. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta:IS2 @ 2,915413
11. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA47 @ 2,926775
12. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Sarmatian:chy001 @ 2,946696
13. %45 Druze + %55 Ossetian @ 2,955659
14. %33 Anatolia_Bronze_Age + %67 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 2,985797
15. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta:IS2 @ 3,005407
16. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Sarmatian:I0575 @ 3,012332
17. %53 Alan:DA162 + %47 Druze @ 3,012445
18. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA81 @ 3,013725
19. %82 Armenian_West + %18 Kangju:DA206 @ 3,019024
20. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Sarmatian:I0574 @ 3,059247


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %66 Abkhazian + %24 Jew_France + %10 Saudi @ 2,216818
2. %65 Abkhazian + %13 Saudi + %22 Sicilian @ 2,221017
3. %49 Abkhazian + %44 Lebanese + %7 Swiss @ 2,22686
4. %48 Abkhazian + %9 Gagauz + %43 Lebanese @ 2,241195
5. %49 Abkhazian + %21 Greek_Chios + %30 Syrian @ 2,244499
6. %19 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + %31 Druze + %50 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 2,245233
7. %49 Abkhazian + %43 Lebanese + %8 Macedonian @ 2,245899
8. %49 Abkhazian + %9 Albanian_North + %42 Lebanese @ 2,246289
9. %49 Abkhazian + %9 Albanian_Kosovo + %42 Lebanese @ 2,246559
10. %48 Abkhazian + %44 Lebanese + %8 Montenegrin @ 2,247048
11. %65 Abkhazian + %21 Italian_South + %14 Saudi @ 2,247222
12. %66 Abkhazian + %25 Jew_Italia + %9 Saudi @ 2,248849
13. %49 Abkhazian + %11 Greek_Peloponnese + %40 Lebanese @ 2,249974
14. %49 Abkhazian + %44 Lebanese + %7 Provancal @ 2,250983
15. %48 Abkhazian + %7 German_South + %45 Lebanese @ 2,251446
16. %56 Georgian_Chveneburi + %34 Lebanese + %10 Mordovian_V @ 2,252746
17. %48 Abkhazian + %46 Lebanese + %6 Orcadian @ 2,252877
18. %49 Abkhazian + %6 French + %45 Lebanese @ 2,256626
19. %41 Abkhazian + %20 Greek_Azov + %39 Lebanese @ 2,258062
20. %59 Abkhazian + %30 Greek_Dodecanese + %11 Saudi @ 2,261399

Alkaevli
08-31-2019, 09:33 AM
By the way, here is a half southwest Anatolian (Kaş/Antalya) and half Dodecanese (Kastellorizo) Greek.
https://abload.de/img/20190831_123420v8jls.png


Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Dodecanese @ 2,436373
2. Greek_Ikaria @ 3,280169
3. Greek_Crete @ 3,554125
4. Greek_Chios @ 3,854478
5. Anatolia_Bronze_Age @ 7,096548
6. Greek_Cyprus @ 8,227777
7. Jew_Italia @ 8,487014
8. Sicilian @ 8,526111
9. Anatolia_Hittite-period @ 8,60376
10. Anatolia_Hattian-period @ 8,785373
11. Jew_France @ 8,832621
12. Turk_Cyprus @ 9,04773
13. Sephardim @ 9,630539
14. Jew_Romania @ 9,647123
15. Greek_Cappadocia @ 9,804754
16. Italian_South @ 10,590722
17. Italian_Center @ 11,1982
18. Jew_Algeria @ 12,054862
19. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 12,158069
20. Greek_Azov @ 12,797603
21. Jew_Syria @ 13,190561
22. Jew_Tunisia @ 13,650795
23. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 14,460213
24. Mycenaean_Bronze_Age @ 14,529807
25. Greek_Peloponnese @ 15,166332
26. Jew_Morocco @ 15,286067
27. Turk_Anatolia_West-Black-Sea @ 16,470961
28. Minoan_Lasithi_Bronze_Age @ 16,765523
29. Jew_Libya @ 16,810739
30. Turk_Anatolia_Central-west @ 17,012001
31. Turk_Anatolia_Southwest @ 17,11822
32. Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 @ 17,319272
33. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 17,331377
34. Albanian_South @ 18,192311
35. Turk_Anatolia_Central-east @ 18,235207
36. Turk_Anatolia_Northwest @ 18,318726
37. Turk_Anatolia_Central-Black-Sea @ 18,398681
38. Costanoan @ 19,122559
39. Turk_Anatolia_South @ 19,213451
40. Greek_Thessaly @ 19,283576


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %30 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %70 Greek_Chios @ 0,569324
2. %95 Greek_Dodecanese + %5 Sardinian @ 0,747283
3. %70 Italian_South + %30 Jew_Georgia @ 0,775363
4. %12 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %88 Greek_Dodecanese @ 0,77969
5. %28 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %72 Greek_Crete @ 0,811349
6. %73 Italian_South + %27 Jew_Iraqi @ 0,886029
7. %79 Greek_Dodecanese + %21 Sicilian @ 0,91295
8. %82 Greek_Dodecanese + %18 Italian_South @ 0,921727
9. %87 Greek_Dodecanese + %13 Mycenaean_Bronze_Age @ 0,957304
10. %35 Anatolia_Bronze_Age + %65 Greek_Chios @ 1,024967
11. %58 Greek_Cyprus + %42 Italian_Center @ 1,042033
12. %30 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %70 Greek_Chios @ 1,077402
13. %28 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %72 Greek_Crete @ 1,094301
14. %7 Corsican + %93 Greek_Dodecanese @ 1,111121
15. %75 Italian_South + %25 Jew_Iran @ 1,149791
16. %4 Basque + %96 Greek_Dodecanese @ 1,166684
17. %4 Bra1 + %96 Greek_Dodecanese @ 1,1695
18. %94 Greek_Dodecanese + %6 Otzi @ 1,191432
19. %32 Anatolia_Bronze_Age + %68 Greek_Crete @ 1,228974
20. %6 Anatolia_Neolithic + %94 Greek_Dodecanese @ 1,238831
21. %84 Greek_Dodecanese + %16 Italian_Center @ 1,23931
22. %95 Greek_Dodecanese + %5 Spaniard @ 1,306337
23. %94 Greek_Dodecanese + %6 Portugese @ 1,340646
24. %65 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %35 Jew_Iran @ 1,346123
25. %89 Greek_Dodecanese + %11 Minoan_Lasithi_Bronze_Age @ 1,409394
26. %24 Jew_Azerbaijan + %76 Sicilian @ 1,446616
27. %89 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %11 Finnish_North @ 1,448042
28. %29 Armenian_West + %71 Sicilian @ 1,464882
29. %23 Jew_Tat + %77 Sicilian @ 1,490509
30. %79 Greek_Cyprus + %21 Italian_North @ 1,520257
31. %27 Assyrian + %73 Sicilian @ 1,541146
32. %59 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %41 Jew_Georgia @ 1,548409
33. %94 Greek_Dodecanese + %6 Italian_North @ 1,579362
34. %89 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %11 Vepsa @ 1,615702
35. %80 Greek_Cyprus + %20 Provancal @ 1,618928
36. %95 Greek_Dodecanese + %5 Provancal @ 1,635689
37. %26 Greek_Cyprus + %74 Greek_Ikaria @ 1,648051
38. %34 Druze + %66 Italian_South @ 1,657965
39. %89 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %11 Finnish_South @ 1,65973
40. %4 Bra2 + %96 Greek_Dodecanese @ 1,661828


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %29 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %68 Greek_Chios + %3 Jew_Morocco @ 0,36982
2. %28 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %68 Greek_Chios + %4 Sephardim @ 0,376645
3. %29 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %66 Greek_Chios + %5 Jew_France @ 0,385821
4. %29 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %66 Greek_Chios + %5 Jew_Italia @ 0,390269
5. %29 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %68 Greek_Chios + %3 Jew_Algeria @ 0,392329
6. %30 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %69 Greek_Chios + %1 Mozabite @ 0,398796
7. %29 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %68 Greek_Chios + %3 Jew_Tunisia @ 0,40208
8. %64 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %21 Romanian_North + %15 Samaritian @ 0,402871
9. %61 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %25 Bulgarian + %14 Samaritian @ 0,403772
10. %29 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %69 Greek_Chios + %2 Jew_Libya @ 0,407896
11. %79 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %8 Jew_Yemen + %13 Ukrainian_East @ 0,410099
12. %28 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %65 Greek_Chios + %7 Jew_Tunisia @ 0,415854
13. %79 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %8 Jew_Yemen + %13 Russian_South @ 0,422873
14. %30 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %69 Greek_Chios + %1 Moroccan @ 0,426375
15. %29 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %65 Greek_Chios + %6 Jew_Libya @ 0,430321
16. %61 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %14 Jew_Yemen + %25 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 0,43556
17. %71 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %15 Samaritian + %14 Sorb @ 0,441873
18. %81 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %5 Bedouin + %14 Ukrainian_East @ 0,44447
19. %63 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %24 Pomak + %13 Samaritian @ 0,447757
20. %31 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %67 Greek_Chios + %2 Jew_Yemen @ 0,455143
21. %82 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %7 Jew_Yemen + %11 Lithuanian @ 0,457089
22. %82 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %11 Estonian + %7 Jew_Yemen @ 0,457504
23. %81 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %7 Jew_Yemen + %12 Russian @ 0,45912
24. %67 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %14 Samaritian + %19 Serb @ 0,461154
25. %81 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %5 Saudi + %14 Ukrainian @ 0,462466
26. %31 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %2 Bedouin + %67 Greek_Chios @ 0,46431
27. %79 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %8 Jew_Yemen + %13 Ukrainian @ 0,466586
28. %80 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %5 Saudi + %15 Ukrainian_West @ 0,469171
29. %82 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %7 Jew_Yemen + %11 Latvian @ 0,472655
30. %82 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %11 Lithuanian_V + %7 Saudi @ 0,476286
31. %82 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %11 Lithuanian + %7 Saudi @ 0,483173
32. %73 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %13 Belarusian_V + %14 Samaritian @ 0,484588
33. %79 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %8 Jew_Yemen + %13 Russian_Cossack @ 0,488146
34. %81 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %7 Jew_Yemen + %12 Russian_Center @ 0,489107
35. %78 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %8 Jew_Yemen + %14 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,494653
36. %81 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %5 Bedouin + %14 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,495906
37. %81 Anatolia_Hattian-period + %14 Russian_Cossack + %5 Saudi @ 0,496299
38. %78 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %8 Jew_Yemen + %14 Ukrainian_V @ 0,497592
39. %78 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %8 Jew_Yemen + %14 Ukrainian_West @ 0,505004
40. %81 Anatolia_Hittite-period + %12 Belarusian + %7 Saudi @ 0,514071

Onur Dincer
08-31-2019, 10:35 AM
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When South Asian too is removed, West Anatolian Turks get modeled as Pontus + East European instead of Aegean + Yagnobi/Pamir.

Turk_Bulgaria without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Gagauz @ 6,406302
2. Bulgarian @ 6,806776
3. Pomak @ 7,48518
4. Romanian_South @ 8,643616
5. Albanian_Kosovo @ 9,047547
6. Greek_Peloponnese @ 9,075537
7. Albanian_North @ 9,559894
8. Albanian_South @ 9,649113
9. Greek_Thessaly @ 10,38945
10. Macedonian @ 10,575495
11. Romanian_North @ 12,810121
12. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12,862309
13. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 14,079262
14. Jew_Romania @ 14,10263
15. Montenegrin @ 14,439419
16. Serb @ 15,142523
17. Italian_Center @ 15,230453
18. Bosnian @ 17,166295
19. Greek_Azov @ 17,333165
20. Greek_Chios @ 17,871441


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %36 Armenian_West + %64 Croat @ 1,086411
2. %16 Georgian_Chveneburi + %84 Pomak @ 1,096415
3. %16 Georgian_Mingrelian + %84 Pomak @ 1,105346
4. %64 Croat + %36 Greek_Pontus @ 1,119772
5. %42 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %58 Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,140827
6. %52 Greek_Cappadocia + %48 Slovakian @ 1,153205
7. %84 Pomak + %16 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 1,169885
8. %30 Greek_Pontus + %70 Serb @ 1,198555
9. %33 Armenian_West + %67 Bosnian @ 1,319401
10. %15 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %85 Pomak @ 1,336252
11. %86 Bulgarian + %14 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 1,371679
12. %16 Abkhazian + %84 Pomak @ 1,377425
13. %56 Greek_Cappadocia + %44 Swedish_V @ 1,410359
14. %27 Greek_Pontus + %73 Romanian_North @ 1,420249
15. %17 Laz + %83 Pomak @ 1,424752
16. %89 Bulgarian + %11 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 1,496994
17. %60 Greek_Ikaria + %40 Sintashta @ 1,498607
18. %67 Bosnian + %33 Greek_Pontus @ 1,537491
19. %85 Bulgarian + %15 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 1,54654
20. %63 British + %37 Jew_Iran @ 1,554852


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %3 Corsican + %41 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %56 Greek_Cappadocia @ 0,725579
2. %1 Bra1 + %42 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %57 Greek_Cappadocia @ 0,73246
3. %42 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %56 Greek_Cappadocia + %2 Sardinian @ 0,735242
4. %45 Greek_Pontus + %45 Polish_V + %10 Sardinian @ 0,804725
5. %13 Anatolia_Neolithic + %36 Laz + %51 Ukrainian_West @ 0,83649
6. %1 Bra2 + %42 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %57 Greek_Cappadocia @ 0,875452
7. %73 Bulgarian + %20 Laz + %7 Lithuanian @ 0,894332
8. %73 Bulgarian + %7 Latvian + %20 Laz @ 0,896936
9. %20 Alan:DA162 + %64 Greek_Peloponnese + %16 Latvian @ 0,925454
10. %20 Alan:DA162 + %63 Greek_Peloponnese + %17 Lithuanian @ 0,925522
11. %37 Latvian + %45 Laz + %18 Sardinian @ 0,942853
12. %24 Anatolia_Neolithic + %38 Georgian_Mingrelian + %38 Lithuanian @ 0,944987
13. %42 Greek_Pontus + %12 Sardinian + %46 Ukrainian_East @ 0,946091
14. %14 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %85 Pomak + %1 Saudi @ 0,951065
15. %46 Armenian_West + %45 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %9 Sardinian @ 0,955504
16. %41 Greek_Pontus + %9 Sardinian + %50 Ukrainian_West @ 0,958017
17. %1 Jew_Yemen + %14 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %85 Pomak @ 0,959521
18. %2 Afanasievo + %17 Laz + %81 Pomak @ 0,96475
19. %20 Alan:DA162 + %19 Belarusian + %61 Greek_Peloponnese @ 0,968892
20. %73 Bulgarian + %7 Estonian + %20 Laz @ 0,970835


Turk_Northwest without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 3,724595
2. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 6,523312
3. Greek_Cappadocia @ 9,806356
4. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 11,484077
5. Greek_Crete @ 11,610825
6. Greek_Chios @ 11,913079
7. Greek_Dodecanese @ 11,990735
8. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,273856
9. Karachay @ 14,941899
10. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 15,046836
11. Greek_Cyprus @ 15,209232
12. Alan:DA162 @ 15,277724
13. Azerbaijani @ 15,460937
14. Jew_Romania @ 15,660231
15. Balkar @ 15,901588
16. Circassian @ 16,139868
17. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 16,406778
18. Greek_Pontus @ 16,602532
19. Anatolia_Bronze_Age @ 16,711173
20. Alan:DA243 @ 16,807347


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %78 Greek_Pontus + %22 Lithuanian_V @ 1,165224
2. %74 Greek_Pontus + %26 Ukrainian_West @ 1,191751
3. %76 Greek_Pontus + %24 Polish_V @ 1,193174
4. %75 Greek_Pontus + %25 Ukrainian @ 1,203683
5. %23 Belarusian + %77 Greek_Pontus @ 1,209367
6. %77 Greek_Pontus + %23 Polish @ 1,249419
7. %74 Greek_Pontus + %26 Ukrainian_Center @ 1,325928
8. %75 Greek_Pontus + %25 Ukrainian_East @ 1,335757
9. %24 Belarusian_V + %76 Greek_Pontus @ 1,372535
10. %74 Greek_Pontus + %26 Ukrainian_V @ 1,376722
11. %75 Greek_Pontus + %25 Russian_Cossack @ 1,454765
12. %77 Greek_Pontus + %23 Russian_Center @ 1,485581
13. %76 Armenian_West + %24 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 @ 1,513104
14. %75 Greek_Pontus + %25 Sorb @ 1,524278
15. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Lithuanian @ 1,529013
16. %77 Greek_Pontus + %23 Russian @ 1,552926
17. %76 Greek_Pontus + %24 Russian_South @ 1,556515
18. %76 Greek_Pontus + %24 Russian_V @ 1,622842
19. %24 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %76 Greek_Pontus @ 1,64107
20. %16 Afanasievo + %84 Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,699155


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %35 Croat + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Samaritian @ 0,463081
2. %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Norwegian_V + %28 Samaritian @ 0,500182
3. %36 Bosnian + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %23 Samaritian @ 0,517964
4. %43 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %25 Samaritian + %32 Slovenian @ 0,612563
5. %32 German_V + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,632165
6. %11 Jew_Yemen + %43 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %46 Pomak @ 0,637341
7. %46 Bulgarian + %12 Jew_Yemen + %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,650806
8. %40 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %39 Romanian_North + %21 Samaritian @ 0,653381
9. %31 CEU_V + %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,661029
10. %19 Jew_Yemen + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %32 Orcadian @ 0,68989
11. %33 British + %19 Jew_Yemen + %48 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,700934
12. %6 Jew_Yemen + %58 Laz + %36 Serb @ 0,769821
13. %74 Greek_Pontus + %7 Italian_Center + %19 Lithuanian @ 0,783894
14. %6 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %75 Greek_Pontus + %19 Latvian @ 0,798643
15. %40 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %22 Samaritian + %38 Serb @ 0,800787
16. %5 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %75 Greek_Pontus + %20 Lithuanian @ 0,803952
17. %73 Greek_Pontus + %9 Italian_Center + %18 Latvian @ 0,822635
18. %77 Greek_Pontus + %20 Latvian + %3 Sardinian @ 0,839499
19. %18 Jew_Yemen + %50 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %32 Welsh @ 0,840602
20. %77 Greek_Pontus + %21 Lithuanian_V + %2 Otzi @ 0,866042



Turk_Southwest without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 5,399325
2. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,195769
3. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 8,958208
4. Greek_Dodecanese @ 11,462904
5. Greek_Crete @ 12,270758
6. Greek_Chios @ 12,69531
7. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,774576
8. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 13,073057
9. Greek_Pontus @ 13,217329
10. Greek_Cyprus @ 13,504369
11. Azerbaijani @ 13,517356
12. Armenian_West @ 13,58979
13. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 14,067804
14. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 14,083992
15. Karachay @ 14,75959
16. Alan:DA162 @ 14,873951
17. Anatolia_Bronze_Age @ 15,123886
18. Balkar @ 15,328747
19. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 15,329009
20. Circassian @ 15,381565


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Ukrainian_West @ 1,115514
2. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Polish_V @ 1,160529
3. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Ukrainian @ 1,226212
4. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Polish @ 1,248527
5. %19 Belarusian_V + %81 Greek_Pontus @ 1,260044
6. %83 Greek_Pontus + %17 Lithuanian_V @ 1,271898
7. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Ukrainian_V @ 1,292853
8. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Sorb @ 1,306543
9. %18 Belarusian + %82 Greek_Pontus @ 1,307134
10. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Ukrainian_Center @ 1,322845
11. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Ukrainian_East @ 1,358155
12. %19 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %81 Greek_Pontus @ 1,38331
13. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Russian_Cossack @ 1,406811
14. %82 Greek_Pontus + %18 Ire8 @ 1,453732
15. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Russian_Center @ 1,504683
16. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Russian_South @ 1,512561
17. %83 Greek_Pontus + %17 Lithuanian @ 1,54387
18. %82 Greek_Pontus + %18 Russian @ 1,548621
19. %88 Greek_Cappadocia + %12 Yamnaya_Samara @ 1,577744
20. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Russian_V @ 1,584548


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %46 Jew_Syria + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %17 Polish_V @ 0,534306
2. %45 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Ukrainian_West @ 0,543415
3. %38 Bulgarian + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %21 Samaritian @ 0,546313
4. %26 CEU + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,572869
5. %14 Jew_Yemen + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %37 Macedonian @ 0,574429
6. %15 Jew_Yemen + %50 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %35 Montenegrin @ 0,600579
7. %46 Jew_Syria + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %17 Polish @ 0,601595
8. %41 Gagauz + %13 Jew_Yemen + %46 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,60963
9. %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian + %26 Welsh @ 0,624392
10. %46 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Ukrainian @ 0,627197
11. %26 British + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,632014
12. %46 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Ukrainian_East @ 0,643037
13. %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %26 Orcadian + %29 Samaritian @ 0,650791
14. %46 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,651011
15. %45 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Ukrainian_V @ 0,663091
16. %18 Belarusian_V + %45 Jew_Syria + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,672672
17. %31 German_South + %18 Jew_Yemen + %51 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,681755
18. %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %37 Pomak + %21 Samaritian @ 0,686056
19. %27 Austrian + %46 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,713066
20. %46 Jew_Syria + %36 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Sorb @ 0,727564


Turk_West_Black_Sea without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Azov @ 4,683856
2. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,919564
3. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 8,357445
4. Greek_Dodecanese @ 11,739914
5. Greek_Crete @ 12,245281
6. Greek_Chios @ 12,636396
7. Greek_Ikaria @ 12,729407
8. Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 13,44461
9. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 13,521191
10. Azerbaijani @ 13,955211
11. Greek_Pontus @ 14,044834
12. Greek_Cyprus @ 14,154645
13. Armenian_West @ 14,459391
14. Karachay @ 14,546282
15. Alan:DA162 @ 14,596185
16. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 14,944325
17. Balkar @ 15,179351
18. Circassian @ 15,268973
19. Anatolia_Bronze_Age @ 15,634856
20. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 15,845489


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %78 Greek_Pontus + %22 Ukrainian_West @ 0,967575
2. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Polish_V @ 0,970446
3. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Ukrainian @ 1,034923
4. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Polish @ 1,059699
5. %21 Belarusian_V + %79 Greek_Pontus @ 1,082529
6. %78 Greek_Pontus + %22 Ukrainian_Center @ 1,119701
7. %78 Greek_Pontus + %22 Ukrainian_V @ 1,134918
8. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Sorb @ 1,146201
9. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Ukrainian_East @ 1,158707
10. %20 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %80 Greek_Pontus @ 1,167122
11. %82 Greek_Pontus + %18 Lithuanian_V @ 1,168395
12. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Russian_Cossack @ 1,26624
13. %19 Belarusian + %81 Greek_Pontus @ 1,274964
14. %79 Greek_Pontus + %21 Russian_South @ 1,294917
15. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Russian_Center @ 1,369235
16. %81 Greek_Pontus + %19 Russian @ 1,479408
17. %82 Greek_Pontus + %18 Lithuanian @ 1,491762
18. %86 Greek_Cappadocia + %14 Yamnaya_Samara @ 1,543509
19. %80 Greek_Pontus + %20 Russian_V @ 1,576299
20. %78 Greek_Pontus + %22 Slovakian @ 1,587453


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %39 Pomak + %19 Samaritian @ 0,450458
2. %29 Austrian + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %26 Samaritian @ 0,469826
3. %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian + %27 Welsh @ 0,474362
4. %40 Bulgarian + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Samaritian @ 0,555935
5. %28 German_V + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,620689
6. %13 Jew_Yemen + %48 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %39 Macedonian @ 0,62727
7. %27 CEU + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,665335
8. %27 CEU_V + %46 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,665343
9. %43 Gagauz + %12 Jew_Yemen + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,66754
10. %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Orcadian + %28 Samaritian @ 0,687419
11. %15 Jew_Yemen + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %36 Montenegrin @ 0,760039
12. %32 German_South + %17 Jew_Yemen + %51 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,772258
13. %42 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %38 Romanian_South + %20 Samaritian @ 0,776389
14. %27 British + %45 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,782111
15. %29 Croat + %6 Jew_Yemen + %65 Laz @ 0,823773
16. %42 Jew_Syria + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %21 Ukrainian_West @ 0,827512
17. %4 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %79 Greek_Pontus + %17 Lithuanian @ 0,841012
18. %27 German_V + %8 Jew_Yemen + %65 Laz @ 0,846507
19. %6 Bulgaria_Iron_Age:I5769 + %78 Greek_Pontus + %16 Latvian @ 0,868584
20. %81 Greek_Pontus + %17 Lithuanian + %2 Sardinian @ 0,877548



Turk_Anatolia_Central-west without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,008617
2. Greek_Azov @ 8,053814
3. Greek_Pontus @ 10,56389
4. Armenian_West @ 10,872938
5. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 11,189549
6. Azerbaijani @ 11,566188
7. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 11,743454
8. Zaza @ 12,878824
9. Greek_Dodecanese @ 12,957006
10. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 13,011568
11. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 13,083923
12. Laz @ 13,158113
13. Turkmen_Iraq @ 13,406342
14. Greek_Cyprus @ 13,673741
15. Assyrian @ 14,064259
16. Alan:DA162 @ 14,305866
17. Karachay @ 14,370487
18. Circassian @ 14,373563
19. Greek_Crete @ 14,469269
20. Balkar @ 14,559508


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %87 Greek_Pontus + %13 Latvian @ 0,897938
2. %86 Greek_Pontus + %14 Lithuanian @ 0,921929
3. %13 Estonian + %87 Greek_Pontus @ 1,002546
4. %86 Greek_Pontus + %14 Lithuanian_V @ 1,038496
5. %15 Belarusian + %85 Greek_Pontus @ 1,054944
6. %85 Greek_Pontus + %15 Russian_Center @ 1,111638
7. %86 Greek_Pontus + %14 Russian @ 1,137317
8. %85 Greek_Pontus + %15 Russian_V @ 1,202837
9. %84 Greek_Pontus + %16 Ukrainian_East @ 1,230197
10. %85 Greek_Pontus + %15 Polish @ 1,294356
11. %86 Greek_Pontus + %14 Inkeri @ 1,297685
12. %84 Greek_Pontus + %16 Ukrainian @ 1,328522
13. %84 Greek_Pontus + %16 Russian_South @ 1,332779
14. %84 Greek_Pontus + %16 Ukrainian_Center @ 1,355871
15. %84 Greek_Pontus + %16 Russian_Cossack @ 1,417765
16. %85 Greek_Pontus + %15 Polish_V @ 1,466568
17. %83 Greek_Pontus + %17 Ukrainian_West @ 1,509334
18. %83 Greek_Pontus + %17 Ukrainian_V @ 1,515974
19. %14 Finnish + %86 Greek_Pontus @ 1,536879
20. %15 Belarusian_V + %85 Greek_Pontus @ 1,608668


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %23 Austrian + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,465077
2. %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Samaritian + %21 Welsh @ 0,555663
3. %47 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %31 Pomak + %22 Samaritian @ 0,563295
4. %31 Bulgarian + %46 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %23 Samaritian @ 0,589578
5. %39 Druze + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Serb @ 0,604059
6. %22 German_V + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,606885
7. %26 German_South + %18 Jew_Yemen + %56 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,632627
8. %22 CEU_V + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,634813
9. %16 Jew_Yemen + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %31 Macedonian @ 0,6448
10. %17 Jew_Yemen + %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Montenegrin @ 0,649493
11. %47 Jew_Syria + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %12 Latvian @ 0,657325
12. %34 Gagauz + %15 Jew_Yemen + %51 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,665887
13. %47 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Romanian_South + %23 Samaritian @ 0,674956
14. %44 Druze + %19 German_North + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,675777
15. %47 Jew_Syria + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %12 Lithuanian @ 0,685506
16. %22 Croat + %41 Druze + %37 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,685793
17. %22 Croat + %7 Jew_Yemen + %71 Laz @ 0,695441
18. %22 CEU + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,696669
19. %48 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Romanian_North + %25 Samaritian @ 0,705243
20. %25 Bosnian + %49 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %26 Samaritian @ 0,726041


Turk_Anatolia_Central-east without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Pontus @ 7,968525
2. Armenian_West @ 8,100778
3. Greek_Cappadocia @ 8,145435
4. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 9,781237
5. Azerbaijani @ 10,030509
6. Zaza @ 10,351721
7. Laz @ 10,374188
8. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 10,820643
9. Greek_Azov @ 11,154465
10. Turkmen_Iraq @ 11,183605
11. Assyrian @ 11,393806
12. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 12,315556
13. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,60646
14. Kurd_Sorani @ 12,673781
15. Talysh @ 12,79691
16. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 12,823615
17. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 13,894474
18. Circassian @ 13,999618
19. Georgian_Chveneburi @ 14,226119
20. Alan:DA162 @ 14,446805


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %9 Finnish_North + %91 Greek_Pontus @ 1,446123
2. %10 Finnish_South + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,48198
3. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Vepsa @ 1,486852
4. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Karelian @ 1,541361
5. %10 Finnish + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,632704
6. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Inkeri @ 1,742739
7. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian @ 1,824543
8. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_North @ 1,849804
9. %10 Estonian + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,859851
10. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Sintashta @ 1,909
11. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Lithuanian @ 1,957765
12. %14 Andronovo + %86 Armenian_West @ 2,002766
13. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Mordovian @ 2,012829
14. %13 Andronovo + %87 Greek_Pontus @ 2,07745
15. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian @ 2,146562
16. %11 Belarusian + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 2,173268
17. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_Center @ 2,183184
18. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_V @ 2,18775
19. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Lithuanian_V @ 2,199785
20. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Komi @ 2,326437


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %17 Jew_Yemen + %58 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %25 Macedonian @ 0,430079
2. %19 Croat + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,432549
3. %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %16 Norwegian_V + %31 Samaritian @ 0,444821
4. %52 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %21 Romanian_North + %27 Samaritian @ 0,482811
5. %27 Gagauz + %16 Jew_Yemen + %57 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,505782
6. %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Samaritian + %16 Swedish @ 0,50841
7. %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian + %17 Slovenian @ 0,51143
8. %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian + %20 Serb @ 0,535212
9. %18 Jew_Yemen + %59 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %23 Montenegrin @ 0,53843
10. %19 Bosnian + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,54527
11. %46 Druze + %13 Early_Slav_Czechia:RISE569 + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,560912
12. %41 Jew_Georgia + %35 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Pomak @ 0,579768
13. %21 German_South + %19 Jew_Yemen + %60 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,579938
14. %17 CEU_V + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Samaritian @ 0,581452
15. %24 Bulgarian + %42 Jew_Georgia + %34 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,581895
16. %16 German_North + %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Samaritian @ 0,588077
17. %17 German_V + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %30 Samaritian @ 0,591211
18. %17 Czech + %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,60218
19. %27 Gagauz + %40 Jew_Iraqi + %33 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,637014
20. %18 Hungarian + %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,640291


Turk_Anatolia_Central-Black-Sea without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Cappadocia @ 7,634627
2. Greek_Pontus @ 8,135354
3. Armenian_West @ 8,54756
4. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 10,168224
5. Azerbaijani @ 10,470926
6. Greek_Azov @ 10,47658
7. Laz @ 10,542957
8. Zaza @ 11,005649
9. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 11,484933
10. Turkmen_Iraq @ 11,880867
11. Assyrian @ 12,089036
12. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,884178
13. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 12,976082
14. Talysh @ 13,357031
15. Kurd_Sorani @ 13,410633
16. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 13,421895
17. Circassian @ 13,952523
18. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 14,131284
19. Alan:DA162 @ 14,201535
20. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 14,303541


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Latvian @ 1,25915
2. %10 Estonian + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,307146
3. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Inkeri @ 1,338798
4. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Lithuanian @ 1,374455
5. %10 Finnish_South + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,424208
6. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Karelian @ 1,433155
7. %10 Finnish + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,451931
8. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian @ 1,495747
9. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_North @ 1,526091
10. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Mordovian @ 1,531872
11. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Russian_Center @ 1,542926
12. %11 Belarusian + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,544953
13. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Lithuanian_V @ 1,591457
14. %90 Greek_Pontus + %10 Vepsa @ 1,593409
15. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Russian_V @ 1,600349
16. %14 Andronovo + %86 Greek_Pontus @ 1,632706
17. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Ukrainian_East @ 1,636267
18. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Russian_South @ 1,645404
19. %10 Finnish_North + %90 Greek_Pontus @ 1,711296
20. %87 Greek_Pontus + %13 Sintashta @ 1,755624


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %51 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %25 Pomak + %24 Samaritian @ 0,428431
2. %25 Bulgarian + %51 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Samaritian @ 0,438338
3. %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian + %17 Welsh @ 0,439741
4. %19 Austrian + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,466585
5. %18 German_V + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,520461
6. %18 CEU + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,527792
7. %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %17 Orcadian + %30 Samaritian @ 0,550069
8. %18 CEU_V + %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian @ 0,572719
9. %41 Jew_Georgia + %35 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Macedonian @ 0,599516
10. %52 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Romanian_South + %24 Samaritian @ 0,60463
11. %18 British + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %29 Samaritian @ 0,608062
12. %52 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %22 Romanian_North + %26 Samaritian @ 0,660396
13. %17 Jew_Yemen + %59 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %24 Montenegrin @ 0,664941
14. %26 Gagauz + %39 Jew_Georgia + %35 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,665953
15. %20 Bosnian + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,687662
16. %40 Druze + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Serb @ 0,722844
17. %54 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Samaritian + %18 Slovenian @ 0,726945
18. %16 Jew_Yemen + %58 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %26 Macedonian @ 0,738273
19. %6 Jew_Yemen + %75 Laz + %19 Serb @ 0,744234
20. %20 Croat + %53 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Samaritian @ 0,759761


Turk_Anatolia_South without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Greek_Cappadocia @ 8,331146
2. Armenian_West @ 8,78876
3. Greek_Pontus @ 8,89063
4. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 9,720746
5. Azerbaijani @ 9,953563
6. Zaza @ 10,511206
7. Greek_Azov @ 10,769539
8. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 10,788273
9. Turkmen_Iraq @ 11,162685
10. Laz @ 11,306657
11. Assyrian @ 11,704603
12. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 12,430087
13. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 12,508634
14. Kurd_Sorani @ 12,698025
15. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 12,844252
16. Talysh @ 12,946236
17. Circassian @ 13,993742
18. Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 14,304137
19. Balkar @ 14,402173
20. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 14,414997


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %11 Finnish_North + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,483491
2. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Vepsa @ 1,613405
3. %11 Finnish_South + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,695326
4. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Karelian @ 1,799961
5. %15 Andronovo + %85 Armenian_West @ 1,86764
6. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Sintashta @ 1,897493
7. %11 Finnish + %89 Greek_Pontus @ 1,921949
8. %60 Greek_Azov + %40 Jew_Tat @ 2,005534
9. %89 Greek_Pontus + %11 Inkeri @ 2,167566
10. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Russian_North @ 2,179302
11. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Russian_South @ 2,192335
12. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Ukrainian_East @ 2,207316
13. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Lithuanian @ 2,20799
14. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Russian_Center @ 2,216079
15. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Estonian @ 2,219144
16. %61 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %39 Italian_Center @ 2,22764
17. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Latvian @ 2,228137
18. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Russian @ 2,232727
19. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Mordovian @ 2,251403
20. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Inkeri @ 2,257888


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %46 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %15 Ukrainian_Center @ 0,538204
2. %46 Druze + %40 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %14 Polish @ 0,555967
3. %20 British + %21 Jew_Yemen + %59 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,5582
4. %46 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %15 Ukrainian_East @ 0,558457
5. %47 Druze + %40 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %13 Lithuanian_V @ 0,558633
6. %28 Bulgarian + %17 Jew_Yemen + %55 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,561325
7. %47 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %14 Polish_V @ 0,569202
8. %21 Jew_Yemen + %60 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Orcadian @ 0,619527
9. %46 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %15 Ukrainian @ 0,626389
10. %16 Jew_Yemen + %56 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %28 Pomak @ 0,63887
11. %49 Druze + %35 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %16 Sintashta @ 0,649349
12. %47 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %14 Russian_South @ 0,653965
13. %17 Jew_Yemen + %56 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %27 Romanian_South @ 0,672167
14. %46 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %15 Ukrainian_West @ 0,7021
15. %46 Druze + %40 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %14 Russian_Center @ 0,704445
16. %13 Belarusian + %46 Druze + %41 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,708374
17. %20 CEU + %21 Jew_Yemen + %59 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,713245
18. %14 Belarusian_V + %47 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,725391
19. %21 Jew_Yemen + %60 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %19 Welsh @ 0,731415
20. %46 Druze + %39 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %15 Ukrainian_V @ 0,734116


Turk_Anatolia_Southeast without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Armenian_West @ 6,250552
2. Greek_Pontus @ 7,314601
3. Zaza @ 7,416745
4. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 8,182243
5. Assyrian @ 8,194328
6. Turkmen_Iraq @ 8,382291
7. Azerbaijani @ 8,98556
8. Laz @ 8,996832
9. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 9,079987
10. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 9,166238
11. Kurd_Sorani @ 9,307519
12. Talysh @ 10,231535
13. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 10,304402
14. Jew_Azerbaijan @ 10,730196
15. Jew_Uzbekistan @ 11,035543
16. Lur_Iran @ 11,350651
17. Jew_Tat @ 11,356747
18. Greek_Cappadocia @ 11,657825
19. Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 12,269818
20. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 12,335689


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %44 Alan:DA162 + %56 Jew_Georgia @ 1,627343
2. %9 Afanasievo + %91 Armenian_West @ 2,179161
3. %90 Armenian_West + %10 Yamnaya_Samara @ 2,300945
4. %40 Greek_Dodecanese + %60 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 2,438058
5. %63 Jew_Georgia + %37 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA190 @ 2,501215
6. %51 Greek_Cappadocia + %49 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 2,598796
7. %48 Alan:DA162 + %52 Jew_Iraqi @ 2,643779
8. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Sarmatian:tem002 @ 2,736565
9. %36 Greek_Chios + %64 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 2,739411
10. %37 Greek_Crete + %63 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 2,741613
11. %42 Greek_Azov + %58 Jew_Tat @ 2,786506
12. %71 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 + %29 Sicilian @ 2,811774
13. %90 Armenian_West + %10 Sarmatian:tem003 @ 2,846576
14. %49 Alan:DA162 + %51 Druze @ 2,903742
15. %36 Greek_Ikaria + %64 Iran_Iron_Age:F38 @ 2,936139
16. %45 Chechen + %55 Druze @ 2,993581
17. %33 Alan:DA162 + %67 Assyrian @ 2,99947
18. %37 Alan:DA243 + %63 Jew_Georgia @ 3,013808
19. %26 Alan:DA243 + %74 Assyrian @ 3,019334
20. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Sarmatian:chy001 @ 3,096575


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %62 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Pomak + %20 Saudi @ 0,581492
2. %13 Anglo-Saxon:NO3423 + %22 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,630059
3. %13 Czech + %22 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,642079
4. %13 German_North + %22 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,645177
5. %13 German + %22 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,648106
6. %22 Jew_Yemen + %66 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %12 Swedish @ 0,652679
7. %19 Bulgarian + %61 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %20 Saudi @ 0,658934
8. %22 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %13 Slovakian @ 0,665468
9. %22 Jew_Yemen + %66 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %12 Swedish_V @ 0,69724
10. %9 Ire8 + %56 Jew_Georgia + %35 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,705378
11. %64 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %13 Orcadian + %23 Saudi @ 0,709858
12. %13 British + %64 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %23 Saudi @ 0,735819
13. %14 Hungarian + %21 Jew_Yemen + %65 Kura-Araxes_Kaps @ 0,736978
14. %14 Austrian + %64 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %22 Saudi @ 0,744979
15. %63 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %16 Romanian_North + %21 Saudi @ 0,770694
16. %64 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %23 Saudi + %13 Welsh @ 0,77343
17. %62 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %18 Romanian_South + %20 Saudi @ 0,775025
18. %21 Jew_Yemen + %63 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %16 Serb @ 0,799259
19. %15 Bosnian + %64 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %21 Saudi @ 0,810803
20. %22 Jew_Yemen + %66 Kura-Araxes_Kaps + %12 Sorb @ 0,813047


Turk_Anatolia_East without East Eurasian and South Asian admixture

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Armenian_West @ 7,005833
2. Greek_Pontus @ 7,358157
3. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 7,43109
4. Zaza @ 7,491835
5. Azerbaijani @ 7,511245
6. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 8,156494
7. Turkmen_Iraq @ 8,245441
8. Laz @ 8,838385
9. Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 9,56965
10. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 9,680267
11. Assyrian @ 9,684084
12. Kurd_Sorani @ 9,724042
13. Talysh @ 9,879574
14. Greek_Cappadocia @ 10,895845
15. Lur_Iran @ 11,515778
16. Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 11,807933
17. Georgian_Chveneburi @ 12,275803
18. Jew_Azerbaijan @ 12,648232
19. Jew_Uzbekistan @ 12,939299
20. Nusayri_S_Turkey @ 13,300081


2-Population Approximation List:

1. %85 Armenian_West + %15 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA58 @ 2,740933
2. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Sarmatian:chy002 @ 2,755818
3. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Sarmatian:DA30 @ 2,778955
4. %54 Druze + %46 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA190 @ 2,800326
5. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Sarmatian:tem002 @ 2,800716
6. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Sarmatian:tem003 @ 2,810761
7. %46 Greek_Cappadocia + %54 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 2,836638
8. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA57 @ 2,838299
9. %86 Armenian_West + %14 Wusun:DA223 @ 2,848861
10. %88 Greek_Pontus + %12 Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta:IS2 @ 2,915413
11. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Saka_Tian_Shan:DA47 @ 2,926775
12. %88 Armenian_West + %12 Sarmatian:chy001 @ 2,946696
13. %45 Druze + %55 Ossetian @ 2,955659
14. %33 Anatolia_Bronze_Age + %67 Iran_Medieval:I1955 @ 2,985797
15. %89 Armenian_West + %11 Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta:IS2 @ 3,005407
16. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Sarmatian:I0575 @ 3,012332
17. %53 Alan:DA162 + %47 Druze @ 3,012445
18. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Hun_Tian_Shan:DA81 @ 3,013725
19. %82 Armenian_West + %18 Kangju:DA206 @ 3,019024
20. %87 Armenian_West + %13 Sarmatian:I0574 @ 3,059247


3-Population Approximation List:

1. %66 Abkhazian + %24 Jew_France + %10 Saudi @ 2,216818
2. %65 Abkhazian + %13 Saudi + %22 Sicilian @ 2,221017
3. %49 Abkhazian + %44 Lebanese + %7 Swiss @ 2,22686
4. %48 Abkhazian + %9 Gagauz + %43 Lebanese @ 2,241195
5. %49 Abkhazian + %21 Greek_Chios + %30 Syrian @ 2,244499
6. %19 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + %31 Druze + %50 Saltovo-Mayaki:DA188 @ 2,245233
7. %49 Abkhazian + %43 Lebanese + %8 Macedonian @ 2,245899
8. %49 Abkhazian + %9 Albanian_North + %42 Lebanese @ 2,246289
9. %49 Abkhazian + %9 Albanian_Kosovo + %42 Lebanese @ 2,246559
10. %48 Abkhazian + %44 Lebanese + %8 Montenegrin @ 2,247048
11. %65 Abkhazian + %21 Italian_South + %14 Saudi @ 2,247222
12. %66 Abkhazian + %25 Jew_Italia + %9 Saudi @ 2,248849
13. %49 Abkhazian + %11 Greek_Peloponnese + %40 Lebanese @ 2,249974
14. %49 Abkhazian + %44 Lebanese + %7 Provancal @ 2,250983
15. %48 Abkhazian + %7 German_South + %45 Lebanese @ 2,251446
16. %56 Georgian_Chveneburi + %34 Lebanese + %10 Mordovian_V @ 2,252746
17. %48 Abkhazian + %46 Lebanese + %6 Orcadian @ 2,252877
18. %49 Abkhazian + %6 French + %45 Lebanese @ 2,256626
19. %41 Abkhazian + %20 Greek_Azov + %39 Lebanese @ 2,258062
20. %59 Abkhazian + %30 Greek_Dodecanese + %11 Saudi @ 2,261399

Thanks for the analyses! It allows us to focus on the West Eurasian ancestry of the coming Oghuz/Turcomans and its effects on the modern Turkish gene pool.

Here is the MDLP World result of one of the Karluk samples (Z342597), one of the ancient DNA samples that best represents the gene pool of the Oghuz/Turcomans coming to Anatolia and environs:

Caucaus_Parsia 24.28
Middle_East 1.64
Indian 3.77 Pct
South_and_West_European 7.06
Melanesian -
Sub_Saharian 0.38
North_and_East_European 10.71
Arctic_Amerind 3.02
East_Asian 22.54
Paleo_African -
Mesoamerican 0.90
North_Asian 25.71

Here is what he gets when we nullify his East Eurasian and South Asian components:

Caucaus_Parsia 55.09
Middle_East 3.72
Indian -
South_and_West_European 16.02
Melanesian -
Sub_Saharian 0.86
North_and_East_European 24.30
Arctic_Amerind -
East_Asian -
Paleo_African -
Mesoamerican -
North_Asian -

Pretty high Caucasus_Persia and North_and_East_European and pretty low Middle_East and South_and_West_European. Very different from any population (Turkic-speaking or not) we know from modern Anatolia and environs.

Caspian
07-07-2020, 09:01 PM
I got my Global25 coordinates today as a member of this spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pj2rBe3L-Jf89JFACjTC1hSRfI7EOps-zed1x0FFpbY/edit#gid=0) with Kars3(Azerbaijani_Turkey) ID name.

My distance to populations
https://i.ibb.co/3fQFZGD/Distances.jpg

My distance to individual members of Global25
https://i.ibb.co/7jjthJw/Distances3.png

My admixture results on Global25
https://i.ibb.co/vw0sfjD/Distances2.jpg

I'm closer to Anatolian Turks from Central, North, South and Southwest Anatolia than Azerbaijanis. I did not understand that why I got Anatolian shifted distances and admixture results on Global25? These results make me atypical Azerbaijani. Could it be because I have more East Asian admixtures and less Iranian/Gedrosian type admixtures than other Azerbaijanis?

Onur Dincer
07-07-2020, 09:14 PM
I got my Global25 coordinates today as a member of this spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pj2rBe3L-Jf89JFACjTC1hSRfI7EOps-zed1x0FFpbY/edit#gid=0) with Kars3(Azerbaijani_Turkey) ID name.

My distance to populations
https://i.ibb.co/3fQFZGD/Distances.jpg

My distance to individual members of Global25
https://i.ibb.co/7jjthJw/Distances3.png

My admixture results on Global25
https://i.ibb.co/vw0sfjD/Distances2.jpg

I'm closer to Anatolian Turks from Central, North, South and Southwest Anatolia than Azerbaijanis. I did not understand that why I got Anatolian shifted distances and admixture results on Global25? These results make me atypical Azerbaijani.

Have you tried my Mediterranean-focused scaled Global25-based Vahaduo calculator (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?20593-Northern-Mediterranean-focused-Global-25-based-Vahaduo-analysis)? It may give you an idea. I suggest that you add Paniya to the source populations to estimate South Asian ancestry. Here are the reference spreadsheets for comparison (none of the populations of the first spreadsheet require any South Asian source so I did not add Paniya as a source in that one):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a5byEejcptHST6X2L6Exb60uGXnyI6tZYI7HWG-EkkE/edit?ouid=116198029371052031452&usp=sheets_home&ths=true

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-dExi7dxWVfM5p_fppGYRyNBXx0SBeBIDE0r78MpqKw/edit

Caspian
07-07-2020, 09:18 PM
I asked it to David Wesolowski who is founder of Global25 project and he said me that your results are possible because Anatolian and Azerbaijani Turks are similar populations. I think It's reason is I have more East Asian admixtures and less Iranian/Gedrosian type admixtures than other Azerbaijanis. That's why I'm shifted to Anatolia than South Caucasus on Global25, because the results of other Azerbaijanis from Turkey are not atypical.

Caspian
07-07-2020, 09:48 PM
I made a comparison between my results and other Azerbaijanis_Turkey members.

Comparison of admixtures
https://i.ibb.co/vqfw83T/admixtures-azerbaijanis-turkey.jpg

Comparison of distances
https://i.ibb.co/tBCdP2Y/distances-azerbaijani-turkey.jpg

I have more than 2x Central Asian Karluk admixture and more Anatolian admixtures (Armenian+Central Anatolian Greek) and less Iranian admixtures. I think this can be reason of why I am close to Anatolian Turks than Azerbaijanis.

Caspian
07-07-2020, 10:37 PM
Have you tried my Mediterranean-focused scaled Global25-based Vahaduo calculator (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?20593-Northern-Mediterranean-focused-Global-25-based-Vahaduo-analysis)? It may give you an idea. I suggest that you add Paniya to the source populations to estimate South Asian ancestry. Here are the reference spreadsheets for comparison (none of the populations of the first spreadsheet require any South Asian source so I did not add Paniya as a source in that one):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a5byEejcptHST6X2L6Exb60uGXnyI6tZYI7HWG-EkkE/edit?ouid=116198029371052031452&usp=sheets_home&ths=true

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-dExi7dxWVfM5p_fppGYRyNBXx0SBeBIDE0r78MpqKw/edit

I did it.

Target: Caspian_scaled
Distance: 2.8724% / 0.02872443
26.0 TUR_Barcin_N
23.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
14.0 GEO_CHG
11.4 Levant_PPNB
10.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
9.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.0 MAR_EN
0.0 Paniya
0.0 WHG

Onur Dincer
07-07-2020, 10:48 PM
I did it.

Target: Caspian_scaled
Distance: 2.8724% / 0.02872443
26.0 TUR_Barcin_N
23.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
14.0 GEO_CHG
11.4 Levant_PPNB
10.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
9.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.0 MAR_EN
0.0 Paniya
0.0 WHG

Can you also post your result with TUR_Barcin_N removed from the source populations?

Caspian
07-07-2020, 10:57 PM
I've noticed that I have really high Barcin_Neolithic admixtures, while other Azerbaijani and Mediterranean populations have 0% Barcin_N admixtures.

Barcin_N admixtures
Caspian 26%
Azeri 0%
Azeri_Turkey 0%
Azeri_Dagestan 0%
Turkish_East 0%
Armenian 0%
Greek_Trabzon 0%
Turkish_Trabzon 0%
Armenian_Hemsheni 0%
Georgian_Laz 0%
Georgian_Imer 0%
Turkish_Adana 0%
Turkish_Aydin 0%
Turkish_Balikesir 0%
Turkish_Central 0%
Turkish_East 0%
Turkish_Istanbul 0%
Turkish_Kayseri 0%
Turkish_North 0%
Turkish_Northwest 11.8%
Turkish_South 1.4%
Turkish_Southwest 15.6%
Turkish_Trabzon 0%

Caspian
07-07-2020, 11:07 PM
Can you also post your result with TUR_Barcin_N removed from the source populations?

This is another calculation if I remove the Barcin_N.

Target: Caspian_scaled
Distance: 2.9679% / 0.02967906
40.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
21.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
11.0 GEO_CHG
10.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
10.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.0 Levant_PPNB
0.0 MAR_EN
0.0 Paniya
0.0 WHG

Johnny ola
07-07-2020, 11:13 PM
This is another calculation if I remove the Barcin_N.

Target: Caspian_scaled
Distance: 2.9679% / 0.02967906
40.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
21.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
11.0 GEO_CHG
10.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
10.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.0 Levant_PPNB
0.0 MAR_EN
0.0 Paniya
0.0 WHG

How did you got this yDNA?


Very interesting.It can be found mostly in eastern black sea(northeast anatolia).

Caspian
07-07-2020, 11:18 PM
How did you got this yDNA?


Very interesting.It can be found mostly in eastern black sea(northeast anatolia).

I think my Y-DNA is coming from a man who is Turkified Pontic Greek in the Black Sea Region (near Trabzon/Giresun) during 12-13th centuries and my paternal ancestors migrated to Safavid Iran in the 16th century as Qizilbash Turcoman. It is really rare subclade among Azerbaijanis. We have more than 400 y-dna results of Azerbaijani people and my y-dna is single
L-PH2079 among Azerbaijanis.

Johnny ola
07-07-2020, 11:23 PM
I think my Y-DNA is coming from a man who is Turkified Pontic Greek in the Black Sea Region (near Trabzon/Giresun) during 12-13th centuries and my paternal ancestors migrated to Safavid Iran in the 16th century as Qizilbash Turcoman. It is really rare subclade among Azerbaijanis. We have more than 400 y-dna results of Azerbaijani people and my y-dna is single
L-PH2079 among Azerbaijanis.



This is crazy but your theory makes sense.Ιt can also be a Laz man or Hemsheni Armenian i guess.Do you coming close on G25 with South Caucasians(Georgians,Laz,Hemsheni,Pontic Greeks etc)?

Caspian
07-07-2020, 11:28 PM
This is crazy but your theory makes sense.Ιt can also be a Laz man or Hemsheni Armenian i guess.Do you coming close on G25 with South Caucasians(Georgians,Laz,Hemsheni,Pontic Greeks etc)?

Yes. It can also be Laz from Northeast Anatolia or Megrelian/Georgian from Georgia. But I think it could not be Hemshin, because Hemshin L1b-PH2079 samples are belong to L-PH3523 while I belong to L-Y49809 with some Pontic Greeks and Laz peoples, different subclade of L-PH2079.

Onur Dincer
07-07-2020, 11:28 PM
This is another calculation if I remove the Barcin_N.

Target: Caspian_scaled
Distance: 2.9679% / 0.02967906
40.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
21.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
11.0 GEO_CHG
10.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
10.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.0 Levant_PPNB
0.0 MAR_EN
0.0 Paniya
0.0 WHG

Your Ganj Dareh N is still high by the general Anatolian Turkish standards, but your relatively high East Eurasian draws you away from the Azerbaijani averages. Interestingly, your steppe is low by both Anatolian Turkish and Azerbaijani standards. You have a unique genetic profile, which, I think, may be shared by your village or tribe.

Johnny ola
07-07-2020, 11:32 PM
Yes. It can also be Laz from Northeast Anatolia or Megrelian/Georgian from Georgia. But I think it could not be Hemshin, because Hemshin L1b-PH2079 samples are belong to L-PH3523 while I belong to L-Y49809 with some Pontic Greeks and Laz peoples, different subclade of L-PH2079.

L1b is Colchians yDNA.It is founding mostly in areas where Colchians inhabit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchian_culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchis

Caspian
07-07-2020, 11:44 PM
Your Ganj Dareh N is still high by the general Anatolian Turkish standards, but your relatively high East Eurasian draws you away from the Azerbaijani averages. Interestingly, your steppe is low by both Anatolian Turkish and Azerbaijani standards. You have a unique genetic structure, which, I think, may be shared by your village or tribe.

Yes, it is true. But, If you noticed that my Tepecik Ciftlik_Neolithic admixture is higher than Azeri and similar with Azerbaijani_Turkey while I have more than 2x East Eurasian admixture than them. Normally, East Eurasian admixture and Anatolian Neolithic admixture have negative correlation, so If they had same East Eurasian admixtures with me, they would had 3-4 points less Anatolian Neolithic admixture than me.

On the other hand, Steppe/Yamnaya and East Eurasian admixtures have positive correlation among Turkic populations. So, usually a Turkish person who has high East Eurasian admixture he/she also has high Steppe/Yamnaya. But, I have less Steppe admixture than other Azerbaijanis while I have higher East Eurasian. I think, it shows that I also have some ancestors who has very little Steppe admixtures from West Asia, for example Pontic Greek, Laz, Armenian. These ancestors could decrease my Steppe admixture.

Caspian
07-07-2020, 11:46 PM
L1b is Colchians yDNA.It is founding mostly in areas where Colchians inhabit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchian_culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchis

Yes, the age of L1b in the Northeast Anatolia is same with date range of Colchians in there.

Johnny ola
07-07-2020, 11:49 PM
Yes, the age of L1b in the Northeast Anatolia is same with date range of Colchians in there.

It is probably connected with a transcaucasus culture similar to Kura-Araxes,Trialeti or Maykop.

Onur Dincer
07-08-2020, 12:09 AM
Yes, it is true. But, If you noticed that my Tepecik Ciftlik_Neolithic admixture is higher than Azeri and similar with Azerbaijani_Turkey while I have more than 2x East Eurasian admixture than them. Normally, East Eurasian admixture and Anatolian Neolithic admixture have negative correlation, so If they had same East Eurasian admixtures with me, they would had 3-4 points less Anatolian Neolithic admixture than me.

On the other hand, Steppe/Yamnaya and East Eurasian admixtures have positive correlation among Turkic populations. So, usually a Turkish person who has high East Eurasian admixture he/she also has high Steppe/Yamnaya. But, I have less Steppe admixture than other Azerbaijanis while I have higher East Eurasian. I think, it shows that I also have some ancestors who has very little Steppe admixtures from West Asia, for example Pontic Greek, Laz, Armenian. These ancestors could decrease my Steppe admixture.

Yes, that is what I meant, your genetic profile is unique as you described. Of course, the correlation between East Eurasian and steppe excludes Balkan Turks, who have much higher steppe and low East Eurasian due to their largely Bulgarian or Balkan Greek ancestry.

Onur Dincer
07-08-2020, 12:16 AM
L-M317 and its immediate ancestor L-PH438 is only about 3000 years old according to YFull and is mostly concentrated in the Eastern Pontus region (the samples from Erzurum and Kars are from the descendants of the recent Eastern Pontian Greek immigrants to there):

https://www.yfull.com/tree/L-PH438/

Michalis Moriopoulos
07-08-2020, 05:56 AM
I got my Global25 coordinates today as a member of this spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pj2rBe3L-Jf89JFACjTC1hSRfI7EOps-zed1x0FFpbY/edit#gid=0) with Kars3(Azerbaijani_Turkey) ID name

It would be nice to get more of those individuals into the G25, especially groups not already represented, like the Nusayri and Zaza. Don't know who manages that project, but it would be worth it to ask if something could be arranged.

There are a lot of new Turkish samples in the G25 and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were supplied from projects like this. I'd prefer if the Turks in G25 were all given provincial labels instead of rose compass ones, but it's all good.

Alkaevli
07-09-2020, 03:24 AM
I got my Global25 coordinates today as a member of this spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pj2rBe3L-Jf89JFACjTC1hSRfI7EOps-zed1x0FFpbY/edit#gid=0) with Kars3(Azerbaijani_Turkey) ID name.

My distance to populations
https://i.ibb.co/3fQFZGD/Distances.jpg

My distance to individual members of Global25
https://i.ibb.co/7jjthJw/Distances3.png

My admixture results on Global25
https://i.ibb.co/vw0sfjD/Distances2.jpg

I'm closer to Anatolian Turks from Central, North, South and Southwest Anatolia than Azerbaijanis. I did not understand that why I got Anatolian shifted distances and admixture results on Global25? These results make me atypical Azerbaijani. Could it be because I have more East Asian admixtures and less Iranian/Gedrosian type admixtures than other Azerbaijanis?

Unlike ADMIXTURE-based GEDmatch calculators, Global25 takes into account the genetic distance between West and East Eurasia. You have considerably more East Eurasian ancestry than the Azerbaijani average.

Even southwestern Turks appear slightly closer to you than Azeri, despite your relatively more Iran/Caucasus-shifted West Eurasian ancestry.

Caspian
07-09-2020, 02:08 PM
I've also calculated my distances with Turkish members from this spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pj2rBe3L-Jf89JFACjTC1hSRfI7EOps-zed1x0FFpbY/edit#gid=0) on Dodecad K12b.

https://i.ibb.co/2NgGN7y/Dodk12bdistances.jpg
I'm closest to Hatay6 member. I have same East_Eurasian admixtures (11.3%) on Dodecadk12b with Hatay6 member.

I'm closer to Turks from Hatay, Yozgat, Sivas, Şereflikoçhisar, Kahramanmaraş and Gaziantep, in Central of Turkey (Central and Central South) than to other Azerbaijanis from Kars and Iğdır also on Dodecadk12b.


Admixture results like this.
Target: Caspian_Kars3
Distance: 0.7578% / 0.75783186
Sources:553 Cycles:553
44.2 Kars4
20.8 Giresun11
19.0 Ankara_Şereflikoçhisar2
16.0 Giresun9

Sorcelow
12-18-2020, 04:39 PM
Something interesting I've noticed is that all of the BA samples we have from Anatolia lack steppe admixture. When I model southwestern Turks as a combination between Isparta_EBA, and Turkmen, the fit is in the range of acceptable but could be tighter.

Distance: 1.7752% / 0.01775191
Target: Turkish_Southwest
53.3 Turkmen
46.7 TUR_Isparta_EBA


When I add Yamnaya_BGR to the equation, the fit gets a whole lot tighter. So, when did the first steppe ancestry reach Anatolia?


Distance: 1.1523% / 0.01152337
Target: Turkish_Southwest
48.4 Turkmen
41.2 TUR_Isparta_EBA
10.4 Yamnaya_BGR

Leper
12-18-2020, 05:27 PM
Something interesting I've noticed is that all of the BA samples we have from Anatolia lack steppe admixture. When I model southwestern Turks as a combination between Isparta_EBA, and Turkmen, the fit is in the range of acceptable but could be tighter.

Distance: 1.7752% / 0.01775191
Target: Turkish_Southwest
53.3 Turkmen
46.7 TUR_Isparta_EBA


When I add Yamnaya_BGR to the equation, the fit gets a whole lot tighter. So, when did the first steppe ancestry reach Anatolia?


Distance: 1.1523% / 0.01152337
Target: Turkish_Southwest
48.4 Turkmen
41.2 TUR_Isparta_EBA
10.4 Yamnaya_BGR

That is still matter of a question. Central Anatolian Greeks can be modelled as 80% Anatolia BA (Hatti-Hittie Period) like population. But they do have extra steppe-like ancestry which where they received it from is still speculative. I highly doubt it was the Galatians alone as some claim so.

Johnny ola
12-18-2020, 06:34 PM
That is still matter of a question. Central Anatolian Greeks can be modelled as 80% Anatolia BA (Hatti-Hittie Period) like population. But they do have extra steppe-like ancestry which where they received it from is still speculative. I highly doubt it was the Galatians alone as some claim so.

They need something transcaucasus as well to be modeled.They are not pure BA Anatolian with some steppe.They are between East Med(Aegean islanders/Cypriots) and Trabzon/Armenians.Even modern Turks besides their 'Turkoman' DNA they can be modeled as something BA Anatolian plus something from Transcaucasus(Kura-Araxes etc).As for their steppe its either from IA or the classical ages IMO.It is not more than 11-12% of their autosomal.

Leper
12-18-2020, 06:51 PM
They need something transcaucasus as well to be modeled.They are not pure BA Anatolian with some steppe.They are between East Med(Aegean islanders/Cypriots) and Trabzon/Armenians.Even modern Turks besides their 'Turkoman' DNA they can be modeled as something BA Anatolian plus something from Transcaucasus(Kura-Araxes etc).As for their steppe its either from IA or the classical ages IMO.It is not more than 11-12% of their autosomal.

Right, Central Anatolian Greeks have around 10% Yamnaya like ancestry.