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alchemist223
08-26-2019, 07:14 PM
Someone who shares my father's matrilineal ancestor has tested positive for this haplogroup (French descent). Where is it from? Its modern-day distribution seems to be in Western Europe, and per Eupedia, actress Meryl Streep also tested positive for K1b2b (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_K_mtDNA.shtml#famous_people). Feel free to post if you or other relatives belong to K1b2b.

J1 DYS388=13
08-27-2019, 02:39 PM
Nowhere in particular, but Europe. http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/k1b2_genbank_sequences.htm

Kristiina
08-27-2019, 04:28 PM
I have recorded the following ancient samples:
Vikings Russia_Gnezdovo 77-241 Gnezdovo Russia VK272 10-11th AD K1b2b,
Early Medieval rural Denmark Nordby Jutland LP164mt K1b2b,
Late Medieval England St. Mary Graces London LG15mt K1b2b,
Late Medieval England St. Mary Spital London LM07mt 1400-1539 AD K1b2b

The oldest K1b2 samples are Mesolithic:
Balcan Meso-Ene transition Lepenski Vir Lepe28 c. 5900 BC K1b2,
Kunda Donkalnis5 Lithuania c. 6000 BC K1b2

alchemist223
08-27-2019, 05:20 PM
Thanks for the ancient DNA samples!!! So it seems that in the Mesolithic period, K1b2b and its ancestor were located in Eastern Europe. Not sure if it was there or not at an earlier time.

msmarjoribanks
08-28-2019, 03:13 AM
K1b haplogroups in general are believed to have moved into Europe with the early farmers from the Near East.

According to Eupedia, K1b2b is broadly found in western continental Europe. I'm in the K mtDNA project at FTDNA, and the matrilineal ancestors, assuming correct, are not all that helpful, ranging from Wales and Scotland to the Ukraine, and Sweden to Spain. It's not an especially common group. (Most Ks that are not K1a are not.)

Tolan
05-24-2020, 07:58 AM
I have recorded the following ancient samples:
Vikings Russia_Gnezdovo 77-241 Gnezdovo Russia VK272 10-11th AD K1b2b,
Early Medieval rural Denmark Nordby Jutland LP164mt K1b2b,
Late Medieval England St. Mary Graces London LG15mt K1b2b,
Late Medieval England St. Mary Spital London LM07mt 1400-1539 AD K1b2b

The oldest K1b2 samples are Mesolithic:
Balcan Meso-Ene transition Lepenski Vir Lepe28 c. 5900 BC K1b2,
Kunda Donkalnis5 Lithuania c. 6000 BC K1b2

Two another ancient sample K1b2b, and they are the oldest :
Alt-2 and Alt-3 Germany Corded-Ware (2570-2458 BC)
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/366/6466/731

derZaen
07-31-2021, 10:27 PM
think, it is a bit like with my hg K1b2a3. I thought too because of Donkalnis5, that these K1b2's have derived in Europe, but I came to another conclusion, comparing all the other ancient files. meanwhile I think, that K1b1/K1b2, who were associated to Catal Hyk around 9000 ybp and had been found even in the Volga region, came to Europe on two routes, first with the neolithic farmers around 7500 years ago, than again with the Yamnaya people two thousand years later.

I just tried to visualize the early K women and had a closer look on all the Tarim basin mummies, who were enough preserved to be good seen. One of them I chose as an example for K1b2b: Please compare with Meryl Streep, who is cited here:

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best Hartmut