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19scohen
09-04-2019, 06:37 AM
A little background: Both of my parents are 100% Ashkenazi Jewish, and so are their parents, and their parents, and so on. My mother's maternal side resided in Poland, and her paternal side resided in Germany. My father's maternal side resided in Russia, and his paternal side resided in Romania.

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.19
2 West_Med 14.74
3 Atlantic 13.88
4 West_Asian 10.46
5 North_Sea 9.44
6 Baltic 8.56
7 Red_Sea 8.41
8 Eastern_Euro 5.54
9 Northeast_African 1.63
10 South_Asian 1.15
11 Southeast_Asian 0.97
12 Siberian 0.6
13 Sub-Saharan 0.43

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.44
2 East_Sicilian 6.2
3 Central_Greek 7.13
4 West_Sicilian 7.21
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.32
6 Greek 7.34
7 Greek_Thessaly 7.64
8 South_Italian 9.27
9 Tuscan 9.99
10 Italian_Jewish 11.23
11 Sephardic_Jewish 11.48
12 Algerian_Jewish 12.31
13 Bulgarian 12.45
14 Romanian 14.28
15 Tunisian_Jewish 15.18
16 North_Italian 15.56
17 Libyan_Jewish 16.52
18 Serbian 17.05
19 Cyprian 18.76
20 Turkish 20.69

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 27.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.17
2 73.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 26.6% Ukrainian @ 2.19
3 66.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 33.3% Moldavian @ 2.34
4 68.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 31.6% Croatian @ 2.39
5 73.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 26.7% South_Polish @ 2.42
6 74.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 25.3% Polish @ 2.56
7 88.5% Ashkenazi + 11.5% Southwest_French @ 2.71
8 91.4% Ashkenazi + 8.6% French_Basque @ 2.81
9 76% Sephardic_Jewish + 24% Estonian_Polish @ 2.84
10 77.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 22.8% Estonian @ 2.86
11 87.5% Ashkenazi + 12.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.88
12 88.7% Ashkenazi + 11.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.9
13 87.3% Ashkenazi + 12.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.91
14 68.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 31.4% Hungarian @ 2.92
15 87% Ashkenazi + 13% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.94
16 74.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 25.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.95
17 88% Ashkenazi + 12% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.95
18 88.9% Ashkenazi + 11.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.98
19 87.8% Ashkenazi + 12.2% Austrian @ 2.98
20 76% Sephardic_Jewish + 24% Belorussian @ 3

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 5.157763
2 East_Sicilian @ 7.106090
3 Greek @ 7.933462
4 Central_Greek @ 8.011712
5 West_Sicilian @ 8.152421
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 8.269838
7 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.484346
8 South_Italian @ 10.650471
9 Tuscan @ 11.347923
10 Italian_Jewish @ 13.071183
11 Sephardic_Jewish @ 13.425779
12 Bulgarian @ 14.144522
13 Algerian_Jewish @ 14.298756
14 Romanian @ 16.401850
15 Tunisian_Jewish @ 17.675196
16 North_Italian @ 17.894337
17 Libyan_Jewish @ 19.043848
18 Serbian @ 19.765131
19 Cyprian @ 22.062372
20 Tunisian @ 22.309986

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.455246


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Samaritan +25% South_Polish +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.259607


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
1 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.599804
2 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.634929
3 Bedouin + Croatian + Cyprian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.687806
4 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.802130
5 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Southwest_French @ 1.823187
6 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.864343
7 Bedouin + Moldavian + North_Italian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.894706
8 Croatian + Samaritan + Southwest_French + Syrian @ 1.905150
9 Croatian + Jordanian + Samaritan + Southwest_French @ 1.944277
10 Bedouin + Croatian + Cyprian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.957346
11 Ashkenazi + Bedouin + Bulgarian + North_Italian @ 1.957949
12 Jordanian + Moldavian + Samaritan + Southwest_French @ 1.994921
13 Moldavian + Samaritan + Southwest_French + Syrian @ 2.058647
14 Bedouin + Moldavian + Samaritan + Southwest_French @ 2.072161
15 Bedouin + Croatian + Cyprian + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.076793
16 Croatian + Samaritan + Spanish_Cantabria + Syrian @ 2.083587
17 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.089187
18 Bedouin + Croatian + Cyprian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.093501
19 Bedouin + Croatian + North_Italian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.097492
20 Algerian_Jewish + Bedouin + Croatian + Tuscan @ 2.099170

19scohen
09-04-2019, 06:49 AM
Also, if anyone's curious about my JTest results:
# Population Percent
1 ASHKENAZI 27.96
2 EAST_MED 19.7
3 WEST_MED 10.95
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.04
5 ATLANTIC 7.86
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 7.17
7 WEST_ASIAN 5.62
8 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 5.49
9 EAST_EURO 4.92
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.83
11 EAST_ASIAN 0.76
12 SIBERIAN 0.36
13 EAST_AFRICAN 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 AJ 4.24
2 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 22.04
3 GR 23.29
4 Tuscan 24.95
5 RO 25.65
6 North_Italian 26.63
7 Serbian 27.84
8 PT 30.18
9 TR 30.95
10 HU 31.21
11 AT 31.37
12 ES 31.92
13 FR 33.28
14 IQ 33.48
15 Moroccan 34.01
16 Assyrian 34.37
17 Mandean 34.6
18 Algerian 34.68
19 Samaritan 34.84
20 Armenian 34.87

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.4% AJ + 5.6% Northwest_Russian @ 3.35
2 94.9% AJ + 5.1% LIT @ 3.42
3 94.1% AJ + 5.9% West_Russian @ 3.43
4 94.5% AJ + 5.5% Belorussian @ 3.45
5 94% AJ + 6% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.45
6 94.7% AJ + 5.3% North_Russian @ 3.46
7 94.1% AJ + 5.9% UA @ 3.47
8 94.1% AJ + 5.9% PL @ 3.47
9 94.7% AJ + 5.3% Erzya @ 3.5
10 95% AJ + 5% EE @ 3.52
11 94.7% AJ + 5.3% East_Russian @ 3.54
12 91.6% AJ + 8.4% RO @ 3.55
13 93.1% AJ + 6.9% HU @ 3.56
14 95.5% AJ + 4.5% Udmurt @ 3.66
15 95.3% AJ + 4.7% South_Finnish @ 3.69
16 95.4% AJ + 4.6% East_Finnish @ 3.69
17 93.1% AJ + 6.9% Serbian @ 3.72
18 93.9% AJ + 6.1% AT @ 3.72
19 96.1% AJ + 3.9% Komi @ 3.82
20 96.2% AJ + 3.8% French_Basque @ 3.89

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 AJ @ 4.722659
2 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 24.480061
3 GR @ 26.045752
4 Tuscan @ 27.633839
5 RO @ 28.457644
6 North_Italian @ 29.544676
7 Serbian @ 30.989761
8 PT @ 33.813801
9 TR @ 34.838890
10 HU @ 34.978291
11 AT @ 35.294483
12 ES @ 35.824448
13 Moroccan @ 36.432884
14 Algerian @ 36.615154
15 FR @ 37.564278
16 IQ @ 37.722157
17 Assyrian @ 39.308594
18 Mandean @ 39.482418
19 Armenian @ 39.835190
20 Samaritan @ 39.931805

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% AJ +50% AJ @ 4.722659


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% AJ +25% AJ +25% AJ @ 4.722659


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++
1 AJ + AJ + AJ + AJ @ 4.722659
2 AJ + AJ + AJ + RO @ 6.412203
3 AJ + AJ + AJ + Serbian @ 7.239755
4 AJ + AJ + AJ + North_Italian @ 7.437680
5 AJ + AJ + AJ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 7.469583
6 AJ + AJ + AJ + GR @ 7.602283
7 AJ + AJ + AJ + Tuscan @ 7.682784
8 AJ + AJ + AJ + HU @ 7.809412
9 AJ + AJ + AJ + AT @ 8.161668
10 AJ + AJ + AJ + PT @ 8.430132
11 AJ + AJ + AJ + ES @ 8.744425
12 AJ + AJ + AJ + FR @ 9.158604
13 AJ + AJ + AJ + Ukrainian-Russian @ 9.696512
14 AJ + AJ + AJ + UA @ 9.734828
15 AJ + AJ + AJ + Moroccan @ 9.739246
16 AJ + AJ + AJ + PL @ 9.749439
17 AJ + AJ + AJ + West_Russian @ 9.891131
18 AJ + AJ + AJ + Algerian @ 9.953734
19 AJ + AJ + AJ + West_&_Central_German @ 10.060526
20 AJ + AJ + AJ + TR @ 10.245856

mildlycurly
09-04-2019, 12:52 PM
I can see in your K15 oracles that "Sephardic" is likely being used as a standin for the founder population from the Levant. The Eastern Euro would seem to suggest distant gentile ancestry from the locals they absorbed.

The Jtest is bang on average for an Ashkenazi Jew.

Sikeliot
09-04-2019, 12:58 PM
It looks like you have slightly higher Eastern and Southwestern European affinity than what is typical for Ashkenazim.

Can you try MDLP K23? I am assuming "Sicilian Trapani" might be your first match since your Eurogenes results are close to many I have seen from Trapani (in the sense of lower East Med, higher Atlantic/Baltic, high Red Sea.).

Claudio
09-04-2019, 01:14 PM
A little background: Both of my parents are 100% Ashkenazi Jewish, and so are their parents, and their parents, and so on. My mother's maternal side resided in Poland, and her paternal side resided in Germany. My father's maternal side resided in Russia, and his paternal side resided in Romania.

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.19
2 West_Med 14.74
3 Atlantic 13.88
4 West_Asian 10.46
5 North_Sea 9.44
6 Baltic 8.56
7 Red_Sea 8.41
8 Eastern_Euro 5.54
9 Northeast_African 1.63
10 South_Asian 1.15
11 Southeast_Asian 0.97
12 Siberian 0.6
13 Sub-Saharan 0.43

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.44
2 East_Sicilian 6.2
3 Central_Greek 7.13
4 West_Sicilian 7.21
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.32
6 Greek 7.34
7 Greek_Thessaly 7.64
8 South_Italian 9.27
9 Tuscan 9.99
10 Italian_Jewish 11.23
11 Sephardic_Jewish 11.48
12 Algerian_Jewish 12.31
13 Bulgarian 12.45
14 Romanian 14.28
15 Tunisian_Jewish 15.18
16 North_Italian 15.56
17 Libyan_Jewish 16.52
18 Serbian 17.05
19 Cyprian 18.76
20 Turkish 20.69

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 27.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.17
2 73.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 26.6% Ukrainian @ 2.19
3 66.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 33.3% Moldavian @ 2.34
4 68.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 31.6% Croatian @ 2.39
5 73.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 26.7% South_Polish @ 2.42
6 74.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 25.3% Polish @ 2.56
7 88.5% Ashkenazi + 11.5% Southwest_French @ 2.71
8 91.4% Ashkenazi + 8.6% French_Basque @ 2.81
9 76% Sephardic_Jewish + 24% Estonian_Polish @ 2.84
10 77.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 22.8% Estonian @ 2.86
11 87.5% Ashkenazi + 12.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.88
12 88.7% Ashkenazi + 11.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.9
13 87.3% Ashkenazi + 12.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.91
14 68.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 31.4% Hungarian @ 2.92
15 87% Ashkenazi + 13% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.94
16 74.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 25.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.95
17 88% Ashkenazi + 12% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.95
18 88.9% Ashkenazi + 11.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.98
19 87.8% Ashkenazi + 12.2% Austrian @ 2.98
20 76% Sephardic_Jewish + 24% Belorussian @ 3

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 5.157763
2 East_Sicilian @ 7.106090
3 Greek @ 7.933462
4 Central_Greek @ 8.011712
5 West_Sicilian @ 8.152421
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 8.269838
7 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.484346
8 South_Italian @ 10.650471
9 Tuscan @ 11.347923
10 Italian_Jewish @ 13.071183
11 Sephardic_Jewish @ 13.425779
12 Bulgarian @ 14.144522
13 Algerian_Jewish @ 14.298756
14 Romanian @ 16.401850
15 Tunisian_Jewish @ 17.675196
16 North_Italian @ 17.894337
17 Libyan_Jewish @ 19.043848
18 Serbian @ 19.765131
19 Cyprian @ 22.062372
20 Tunisian @ 22.309986

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.455246


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Samaritan +25% South_Polish +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.259607


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
1 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.599804
2 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.634929
3 Bedouin + Croatian + Cyprian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.687806
4 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.802130
5 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Southwest_French @ 1.823187
6 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.864343
7 Bedouin + Moldavian + North_Italian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.894706
8 Croatian + Samaritan + Southwest_French + Syrian @ 1.905150
9 Croatian + Jordanian + Samaritan + Southwest_French @ 1.944277
10 Bedouin + Croatian + Cyprian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.957346
11 Ashkenazi + Bedouin + Bulgarian + North_Italian @ 1.957949
12 Jordanian + Moldavian + Samaritan + Southwest_French @ 1.994921
13 Moldavian + Samaritan + Southwest_French + Syrian @ 2.058647
14 Bedouin + Moldavian + Samaritan + Southwest_French @ 2.072161
15 Bedouin + Croatian + Cyprian + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.076793
16 Croatian + Samaritan + Spanish_Cantabria + Syrian @ 2.083587
17 Bedouin + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.089187
18 Bedouin + Croatian + Cyprian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.093501
19 Bedouin + Croatian + North_Italian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.097492
20 Algerian_Jewish + Bedouin + Croatian + Tuscan @ 2.099170

Can you post your Eurogenes K13 results?

StillWater
09-04-2019, 02:31 PM
Your side from "Russia" is almost surely from the Russian Empire and not modern Russian territory. Only a slither of western Russia was in the Pale. Do you know which former country/ies from the Pale - Belarus, Baltics, East/Central Poland, Ukraine, Moldova ?

Which company did you test with and what did they assign you?

jonahst
09-04-2019, 02:54 PM
I can see in your K15 oracles that "Sephardic" is likely being used as a standin for the founder population from the Levant. The Eastern Euro would seem to suggest distant gentile ancestry from the locals they absorbed.

The Jtest is bang on average for an Ashkenazi Jew.

Sephardim are not pure Levantine, they have similar (but slightly higher) levels of Southern European and North African ancestry as Ashkenazim. The main difference between the two is the 10-15% Northern European ancestry in Ashkenazi Jews.

Sikeliot
09-04-2019, 02:57 PM
Sephardim are not pure Levantine, they have similar (but slightly higher) levels of Southern European and North African ancestry as Ashkenazim. The main difference between the two is the 10-15% Northern European ancestry in Ashkenazi Jews.

In turn, the North African groups of Jews range from being a North African-shifted version of other Sephardim mostly in Morocco, Algeria, and then get progressively more Levantine as you go east into the Tunisian, Libyan, and Egyptian Jewish communities.

19scohen
09-04-2019, 03:40 PM
Your side from "Russia" is almost surely from the Russian Empire and not modern Russian territory. Only a slither of western Russia was in the Pale. Do you know which former country/ies from the Pale - Belarus, Baltics, East/Central Poland, Ukraine, Moldova ?

Which company did you test with and what did they assign you?

I tested with AncestryDNA, and they gave me 100% European (Ashkenazi) Jewish.
As for Russia, it is believed that it may have specifically been located in the Ukraine.

19scohen
09-04-2019, 03:43 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.5
2 West_Med 19.34
3 North_Atlantic 16.67
4 Baltic 12.71
5 West_Asian 8.53
6 Red_Sea 6.24
7 South_Asian 1.23
8 East_Asian 1.1
9 Siberian 1.01
10 Northeast_African 0.95
11 Sub-Saharan 0.71

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.15
2 East_Sicilian 6.25
3 Central_Greek 7.27
4 West_Sicilian 7.6
5 Greek_Thessaly 7.78
6 South_Italian 9
7 Italian_Abruzzo 9.25
8 Algerian_Jewish 11.01
9 Italian_Jewish 11.18
10 Sephardic_Jewish 11.74
11 Tuscan 12.13
12 Tunisian_Jewish 14.67
13 Libyan_Jewish 15.12
14 Bulgarian 15.65
15 Romanian 17.69
16 North_Italian 17.97
17 Cyprian 18.56
18 Serbian 21.41
19 Lebanese_Muslim 21.57
20 Tunisian 21.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.9% Algerian_Jewish + 20.1% Belorussian @ 2.08
2 89.4% Ashkenazi + 10.6% Croatian @ 2.12
3 90.4% Ashkenazi + 9.6% East_German @ 2.13
4 81.3% Algerian_Jewish + 18.7% Estonian @ 2.15
5 85.7% Ashkenazi + 14.3% Serbian @ 2.15
6 91.4% Ashkenazi + 8.6% Ukrainian @ 2.18
7 91.1% Ashkenazi + 8.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.19
8 92% Ashkenazi + 8% Polish @ 2.19
9 91.4% Ashkenazi + 8.6% South_Polish @ 2.21
10 88.6% Ashkenazi + 11.4% Moldavian @ 2.22
11 90% Ashkenazi + 10% Austrian @ 2.23
12 79.7% Algerian_Jewish + 20.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.25
13 92.7% Ashkenazi + 7.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.25
14 89.4% Ashkenazi + 10.6% Hungarian @ 2.26
15 92.4% Ashkenazi + 7.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.26
16 93.1% Ashkenazi + 6.9% Estonian @ 2.27
17 81.2% Algerian_Jewish + 18.8% Finnish @ 2.27
18 92.4% Ashkenazi + 7.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.3
19 92.6% Ashkenazi + 7.4% Belorussian @ 2.31
20 83.6% Ashkenazi + 16.4% Romanian @ 2.32


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 4.730207
2 East_Sicilian @ 7.101106
3 Central_Greek @ 8.273911
4 West_Sicilian @ 8.601554
5 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.849110
6 South_Italian @ 10.201937
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 10.602359
8 Algerian_Jewish @ 12.436575
9 Italian_Jewish @ 12.695266
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 13.331744
11 Tuscan @ 13.894331
12 Tunisian_Jewish @ 16.556339
13 Libyan_Jewish @ 16.866905
14 Bulgarian @ 17.872778
15 Romanian @ 20.280058
16 North_Italian @ 20.656155
17 Cyprian @ 21.378620
18 Tunisian @ 22.599762
19 Algerian @ 23.512882
20 Serbian @ 24.569357

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.527009


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +25% Tunisian_Jewish +25% Ukrainian @ 2.619281


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Serbian @ 2.357940
2 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Romanian @ 2.444469
3 Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.510953
4 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + Moldavian @ 2.603855
5 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.619281
6 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Serbian @ 2.636717
7 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Croatian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.637380
8 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Bulgarian @ 2.657092
9 Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.687984
10 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + South_Polish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.699003
11 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.699529
12 Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.736144
13 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Croatian + Italian_Jewish @ 2.739045
14 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.745497
15 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Croatian @ 2.753712
16 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Moldavian @ 2.758272
17 Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.775761
18 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + South_Polish @ 2.783221
19 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Croatian + Italian_Jewish @ 2.794930
20 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Croatian + Libyan_Jewish @ 2.803445

19scohen
09-04-2019, 03:45 PM
Yes!
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.01
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.96
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.3
4 Near_East 11.78
5 South_Central_Asian 6.67
6 North_African 5.94
7 South_East_Asian 0.84
8 Tungus-Altaic 0.7
9 Subsaharian 0.57
10 Arctic 0.45
11 South_Indian 0.44
12 Archaic_African 0.41
13 Ancestral_Altaic 0.4
14 Khoisan 0.38
15 Melano_Polynesian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian_West ( ) 4.11
2 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 5.82
3 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 6.13
4 Maltese ( ) 6.68
5 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 6.82
6 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 7.04
7 Turk_Jew ( ) 7.68
8 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 7.87
9 French_Jew ( ) 7.9
10 Moroccan_Jew ( ) 7.99
11 Bulgarian ( ) 8.4
12 Greek_Northwest ( ) 8.48
13 Italian_Jew ( ) 8.6
14 Macedonian ( ) 8.77
15 Montenegrian ( ) 8.93
16 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 8.93
17 Sicilian_East ( ) 9.07
18 Ashkenazi ( ) 9.86
19 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 10.36
20 Serb_Serbia ( ) 10.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.1% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 32.9% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 2.15
2 67.9% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 32.1% Slovenian ( ) @ 2.22
3 60.8% Italian_North ( ) + 39.2% Samaritian ( ) @ 2.25
4 68.6% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 31.4% Hungarian ( ) @ 2.27
5 75.4% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 24.6% German ( ) @ 2.3
6 84.9% Sicilian_West ( ) + 15.1% Jordanian ( ) @ 2.33
7 88.2% Sicilian_West ( ) + 11.8% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 2.35
8 69.9% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 30.1% Czech ( ) @ 2.38
9 57.9% Italian_North ( ) + 42.1% Lebanese ( ) @ 2.4
10 71.4% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 28.6% Slovak ( ) @ 2.45
11 88.1% Sicilian_West ( ) + 11.9% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 2.45
12 59.2% Italian_North ( ) + 40.8% Lebanese_Muslim ( ) @ 2.45
13 88.1% Sicilian_West ( ) + 11.9% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 2.45
14 90.4% Sicilian_West ( ) + 9.6% Yemen ( ) @ 2.45
15 88.3% Sicilian_West ( ) + 11.7% Russian_Center ( ) @ 2.46
16 73.9% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 26.1% Kashub ( ) @ 2.47
17 54.1% Christian_Arabs_Israel ( ) + 45.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) @ 2.48
18 87.6% Sicilian_West ( ) + 12.4% Belarusian ( ) @ 2.49
19 85% Sicilian_West ( ) + 15% Muslim_Arabs_Israel ( ) @ 2.51
20 88.8% Sicilian_West ( ) + 11.2% Lithuanian ( ) @ 2.52


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 5.641562
2 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 5.856968
3 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.285006
4 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 7.476817
5 Sicilian_East_ @ 7.985920
6 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 8.011469
7 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.110799
8 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 8.576742
9 Romanian_Jew_ @ 8.873779
10 Maltese_ @ 9.195981
11 Greek_ @ 9.306945
12 Cretan_ @ 9.399817
13 Greek_Northwest_ @ 9.472412
14 Central_Greek_ @ 9.573809
15 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 9.801853
16 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 9.889103
17 Greek_Athens_ @ 10.044662
18 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 10.365494
19 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 10.391603
20 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 10.530179

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Christian_Arabs_Israel_ +50% Welsh_ @ 3.732577


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze_ +25% Slovenian_ +25% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.812824

StillWater
09-04-2019, 04:13 PM
I can see in your K15 oracles that "Sephardic" is likely being used as a standin for the founder population from the Levant. The Eastern Euro would seem to suggest distant gentile ancestry from the locals they absorbed.

The Jtest is bang on average for an Ashkenazi Jew.

I don't see any firm evidence of additional East Euro ancestry relative to a common Ashkenazi. This is within random inheritance. For one, AncestryDNA assigned her 100% Jewish, and they hand out East Euro ancestry fairly liberally, even to Ashkenazim. Her JTest score is utterly normal. And the shift is a few % toward East Europe. I decided to look at my most distant cousin matches on Gedmatch, as to lower the bias (using the old One-to-Many). Only took a few samples till I found the following shift in JTest:

1 89.7% AJ + 10.3% Ukrainian-Russian @ 5.81

This person got all 4 Ashkenazi grandparents in the 4-way oracle and an Ashkenazi score a hair under 25*(edit). Sure, I could've just chanced upon a rare result early, but I'm too lazy to keep checking. Others can continue this JTest experiment. I only required that the match has all 4 grandparents as Ashkenazi in the top line of the 4-way oracle. I often see shifts of a few % in whichever direction. It gets interesting when they get to 10%. Of course, if it's a SSA or an EA shift, then a few % are also interesting. It could be that Cohen has ancestry from a region where Jews mated with locals more and that such a region is well represented in AncestryDNA's reference panel for Jews, but I highly doubt there is anything unique to her as an individual.

Ruderico
09-04-2019, 04:14 PM
People tend to forget that no population is 100% homogenous, and that a reference is just that, a reference. You pick another set of AJs and you'd get a different one.

19scohen
09-04-2019, 05:26 PM
I don't see any firm evidence of additional East Euro ancestry relative to a common Ashkenazi. This is within random inheritance. For one, AncestryDNA assigned her 100% Jewish, and they hand out East Euro ancestry fairly liberally, even to Ashkenazim. Her JTest score is utterly normal. And the shift is a few % toward East Europe. I decided to look at my most distant cousin matches on Gedmatch, as to lower the bias (using the old One-to-Many). Only took a few samples till I found the following shift in JTest:

1 89.7% AJ + 10.3% Ukrainian-Russian @ 5.81

This person got all 4 Ashkenazi grandparents in the 4-way oracle and an Ashkenazi score a hair under 25*(edit). Sure, I could've just chanced upon a rare result early, but I'm too lazy to keep checking. Others can continue this JTest experiment. I only required that the match has all 4 grandparents as Ashkenazi in the top line of the 4-way oracle. I often see shifts of a few % in whichever direction. It gets interesting when they get to 10%. Of course, if it's a SSA or an EA shift, then a few % are also interesting. It could be that Cohen has ancestry from a region where Jews mated with locals more and that such a region is well represented in AncestryDNA's reference panel for Jews, but I highly doubt there is anything unique to her as an individual.

This actually inspired me to scroll all the way down my one-to-many dna comparison results and put the kits at the very bottom of the list into the JTest and compare them to mine. Almost all of them received similar results to me, except for one, which was about the 10th result or so down:

# Population Percent
1 ASHKENAZI 17.83
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.22
3 ATLANTIC 15.9
4 EAST_MED 11.69
5 WEST_MED 10.93
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.81
7 WEST_ASIAN 6.49
8 EAST_EURO 5.75
9 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.33
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 15.64
2 RO 15.93
3 Serbian 16.32
4 Tuscan 16.49
5 AT 16.68
6 PT 17.42
7 AJ 17.82
8 FR 18
9 HU 18.56
10 ES 19.29
11 West_&_Central_German 20.48
12 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 20.65
13 NL 21.4
14 Cornish 22.12
15 English 22.23
16 GR 23.01
17 Orcadian 23.74
18 DK 23.81
19 IE 24.42
20 Scottish 24.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.2% AJ + 42.8% Orcadian @ 1.87
2 55.4% AJ + 44.6% Cornish @ 2.08
3 57.9% AJ + 42.1% IE @ 2.18
4 55.6% AJ + 44.4% English @ 2.25
5 54.6% AJ + 45.4% NL @ 2.28
6 58.2% AJ + 41.8% Scottish @ 2.28
7 53.5% AJ + 46.5% West_&_Central_German @ 2.5
8 57.4% AJ + 42.6% DK @ 3.26
9 58.9% AJ + 41.1% NO @ 3.4
10 59.1% AJ + 40.9% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.53
11 50.3% AJ + 49.7% FR @ 4.67
12 51.8% AT + 48.2% AJ @ 4.72
13 60.9% AJ + 39.1% North_Swedish @ 5.22
14 51.2% AJ + 48.8% HU @ 7.3
15 50.7% PT + 49.3% AJ @ 8.04
16 64.8% AJ + 35.2% South_Finnish @ 8.18
17 52.5% AJ + 47.5% ES @ 8.25
18 52.9% Serbian + 47.1% AJ @ 8.46
19 63.2% AJ + 36.8% PL @ 9.15
20 67.9% AJ + 32.1% EE @ 9.22

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% AJ +50% West_&_Central_German @ 3.176314


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% AJ +25% AT +25% Scottish @ 2.776469


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 AJ + AJ + AT + Scottish @ 2.776469
2 AJ + AJ + Cornish + West_&_Central_German @ 2.872545
3 AJ + AJ + AT + Cornish @ 2.901091
4 AJ + AJ + AT + Orcadian @ 2.915720
5 AJ + AJ + AT + IE @ 2.937293
6 AJ + AJ + AT + English @ 2.956280
7 AJ + AJ + FR + Orcadian @ 2.977886
8 AJ + AJ + FR + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.019433
9 AJ + AJ + Cornish + NL @ 3.064049
10 AJ + AJ + FR + NO @ 3.105174
11 AJ + AJ + FR + Scottish @ 3.112836
12 AJ + AJ + English + West_&_Central_German @ 3.137087
13 AJ + AJ + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.151663
14 AJ + AJ + FR + West_&_Central_German @ 3.161664
15 AJ + AJ + FR + NL @ 3.168331
16 AJ + AJ + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 3.173621
17 AJ + AJ + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 3.176314
18 AJ + AJ + NL + NL @ 3.236315
19 AJ + AJ + DK + FR @ 3.240565
20 AJ + AJ + English + FR @ 3.256905

I found this interesting, but then I did even more kits after that, and they still received way more similar results to me.

StillWater
09-04-2019, 05:41 PM
This actually inspired me to scroll all the way down my one-to-many dna comparison results and put the kits at the very bottom of the list into the JTest and compare them to mine. Almost all of them received similar results to me, except for one, which was about the 10th result or so down:

# Population Percent
1 ASHKENAZI 17.83
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.22
3 ATLANTIC 15.9
4 EAST_MED 11.69
5 WEST_MED 10.93
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.81
7 WEST_ASIAN 6.49
8 EAST_EURO 5.75
9 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.33
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 15.64
2 RO 15.93
3 Serbian 16.32
4 Tuscan 16.49
5 AT 16.68
6 PT 17.42
7 AJ 17.82
8 FR 18
9 HU 18.56
10 ES 19.29
11 West_&_Central_German 20.48
12 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 20.65
13 NL 21.4
14 Cornish 22.12
15 English 22.23
16 GR 23.01
17 Orcadian 23.74
18 DK 23.81
19 IE 24.42
20 Scottish 24.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.2% AJ + 42.8% Orcadian @ 1.87
2 55.4% AJ + 44.6% Cornish @ 2.08
3 57.9% AJ + 42.1% IE @ 2.18
4 55.6% AJ + 44.4% English @ 2.25
5 54.6% AJ + 45.4% NL @ 2.28
6 58.2% AJ + 41.8% Scottish @ 2.28
7 53.5% AJ + 46.5% West_&_Central_German @ 2.5
8 57.4% AJ + 42.6% DK @ 3.26
9 58.9% AJ + 41.1% NO @ 3.4
10 59.1% AJ + 40.9% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.53
11 50.3% AJ + 49.7% FR @ 4.67
12 51.8% AT + 48.2% AJ @ 4.72
13 60.9% AJ + 39.1% North_Swedish @ 5.22
14 51.2% AJ + 48.8% HU @ 7.3
15 50.7% PT + 49.3% AJ @ 8.04
16 64.8% AJ + 35.2% South_Finnish @ 8.18
17 52.5% AJ + 47.5% ES @ 8.25
18 52.9% Serbian + 47.1% AJ @ 8.46
19 63.2% AJ + 36.8% PL @ 9.15
20 67.9% AJ + 32.1% EE @ 9.22

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% AJ +50% West_&_Central_German @ 3.176314


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% AJ +25% AT +25% Scottish @ 2.776469


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 AJ + AJ + AT + Scottish @ 2.776469
2 AJ + AJ + Cornish + West_&_Central_German @ 2.872545
3 AJ + AJ + AT + Cornish @ 2.901091
4 AJ + AJ + AT + Orcadian @ 2.915720
5 AJ + AJ + AT + IE @ 2.937293
6 AJ + AJ + AT + English @ 2.956280
7 AJ + AJ + FR + Orcadian @ 2.977886
8 AJ + AJ + FR + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.019433
9 AJ + AJ + Cornish + NL @ 3.064049
10 AJ + AJ + FR + NO @ 3.105174
11 AJ + AJ + FR + Scottish @ 3.112836
12 AJ + AJ + English + West_&_Central_German @ 3.137087
13 AJ + AJ + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.151663
14 AJ + AJ + FR + West_&_Central_German @ 3.161664
15 AJ + AJ + FR + NL @ 3.168331
16 AJ + AJ + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 3.173621
17 AJ + AJ + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 3.176314
18 AJ + AJ + NL + NL @ 3.236315
19 AJ + AJ + DK + FR @ 3.240565
20 AJ + AJ + English + FR @ 3.256905

I found this interesting, but then I did even more kits after that, and they still received way more similar results to me.

This person is half Ashkenazi.

19scohen
09-04-2019, 06:43 PM
Yeah, I found that interesting because the rest of my matches are full Ashkenazi.

passenger
09-04-2019, 08:42 PM
This person is half Ashkenazi.

Yep, pretty similar to mine, but naturally a bit more Ashkenazi:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 19.63
2 ATLANTIC 18.38
3 ASHKENAZI 14.39
4 EAST_MED 12.64
5 WEST_MED 12.38
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.24
7 EAST_EURO 5.91
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.78
9 WEST_ASIAN 4.73


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 PT @ 14.510565
2 North_Italian @ 14.614073
3 Tuscan @ 15.571639
4 FR @ 15.737476
5 ES @ 16.882339
6 AT @ 17.592287
7 Serbian @ 18.211529
8 RO @ 18.932697
9 West_&_Central_German @ 19.941078
10 NL @ 20.895164
11 HU @ 21.394405
12 Cornish @ 21.494951
13 English @ 21.502272
14 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 23.664009
15 Orcadian @ 23.788797
16 DK @ 23.824856
17 IE @ 24.403444
18 AJ @ 24.507610
19 Scottish @ 24.921247
20 NO @ 26.023268

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% AJ +50% English @ 4.487763


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% AJ +25% Cornish +25% English @ 4.450455


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 AJ + AJ + Cornish + English @ 4.450455
2 AJ + AJ + English + English @ 4.487763
3 AJ + AJ + English + IE @ 4.625057
4 AJ + AJ + Cornish + Cornish @ 4.639279
5 AJ + AJ + FR + IE @ 4.712350
6 AJ + AJ + FR + Scottish @ 4.725337
7 AJ + AJ + English + FR @ 4.751278
8 AJ + AJ + English + Scottish @ 4.757950
9 AJ + AJ + Cornish + IE @ 4.803754
10 AJ + AJ + English + Orcadian @ 4.807704
11 AJ + English + English + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.842287
12 AJ + AJ + FR + Orcadian @ 4.856024
13 AJ + Cornish + English + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.891118
14 AJ + AJ + Cornish + Orcadian @ 4.934370
15 AJ + AJ + DK + FR @ 4.944926
16 AJ + AJ + Cornish + NL @ 4.961263
17 AJ + AJ + Cornish + Scottish @ 4.963396
18 AJ + AJ + English + NL @ 4.976908
19 AJ + DK + FR + Tuscan @ 4.987218
20 AJ + AJ + Cornish + FR @ 5.018210

StillWater
09-04-2019, 08:53 PM
Yeah, I found that interesting because the rest of my matches are full Ashkenazi.

Why wouldn't you get cousin matches who are partially Ashkenazi? In order to get a match, you just need to share a segment of ~12cm.

Sikeliot
09-04-2019, 08:57 PM
Yes!
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.01
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.96
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.3
4 Near_East 11.78
5 South_Central_Asian 6.67
6 North_African 5.94
7 South_East_Asian 0.84
8 Tungus-Altaic 0.7
9 Subsaharian 0.57
10 Arctic 0.45
11 South_Indian 0.44
12 Archaic_African 0.41
13 Ancestral_Altaic 0.4
14 Khoisan 0.38
15 Melano_Polynesian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian_West ( ) 4.11
2 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 5.82
3 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 6.13
4 Maltese ( ) 6.68
5 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 6.82
6 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 7.04
7 Turk_Jew ( ) 7.68
8 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 7.87
9 French_Jew ( ) 7.9
10 Moroccan_Jew ( ) 7.99
11 Bulgarian ( ) 8.4
12 Greek_Northwest ( ) 8.48
13 Italian_Jew ( ) 8.6
14 Macedonian ( ) 8.77
15 Montenegrian ( ) 8.93
16 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 8.93
17 Sicilian_East ( ) 9.07
18 Ashkenazi ( ) 9.86
19 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 10.36
20 Serb_Serbia ( ) 10.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.1% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 32.9% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 2.15
2 67.9% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 32.1% Slovenian ( ) @ 2.22
3 60.8% Italian_North ( ) + 39.2% Samaritian ( ) @ 2.25
4 68.6% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 31.4% Hungarian ( ) @ 2.27
5 75.4% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 24.6% German ( ) @ 2.3
6 84.9% Sicilian_West ( ) + 15.1% Jordanian ( ) @ 2.33
7 88.2% Sicilian_West ( ) + 11.8% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 2.35
8 69.9% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 30.1% Czech ( ) @ 2.38
9 57.9% Italian_North ( ) + 42.1% Lebanese ( ) @ 2.4
10 71.4% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 28.6% Slovak ( ) @ 2.45
11 88.1% Sicilian_West ( ) + 11.9% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 2.45
12 59.2% Italian_North ( ) + 40.8% Lebanese_Muslim ( ) @ 2.45
13 88.1% Sicilian_West ( ) + 11.9% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 2.45
14 90.4% Sicilian_West ( ) + 9.6% Yemen ( ) @ 2.45
15 88.3% Sicilian_West ( ) + 11.7% Russian_Center ( ) @ 2.46
16 73.9% Sephardic_Jew ( ) + 26.1% Kashub ( ) @ 2.47
17 54.1% Christian_Arabs_Israel ( ) + 45.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) @ 2.48
18 87.6% Sicilian_West ( ) + 12.4% Belarusian ( ) @ 2.49
19 85% Sicilian_West ( ) + 15% Muslim_Arabs_Israel ( ) @ 2.51
20 88.8% Sicilian_West ( ) + 11.2% Lithuanian ( ) @ 2.52


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 5.641562
2 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 5.856968
3 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.285006
4 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 7.476817
5 Sicilian_East_ @ 7.985920
6 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 8.011469
7 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 8.110799
8 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 8.576742
9 Romanian_Jew_ @ 8.873779
10 Maltese_ @ 9.195981
11 Greek_ @ 9.306945
12 Cretan_ @ 9.399817
13 Greek_Northwest_ @ 9.472412
14 Central_Greek_ @ 9.573809
15 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 9.801853
16 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 9.889103
17 Greek_Athens_ @ 10.044662
18 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 10.365494
19 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 10.391603
20 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 10.530179

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Christian_Arabs_Israel_ +50% Welsh_ @ 3.732577


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze_ +25% Slovenian_ +25% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 1.812824


Pretty close to what I expected!! :)

Claudio
09-04-2019, 10:10 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.5
2 West_Med 19.34
3 North_Atlantic 16.67
4 Baltic 12.71
5 West_Asian 8.53
6 Red_Sea 6.24
7 South_Asian 1.23
8 East_Asian 1.1
9 Siberian 1.01
10 Northeast_African 0.95
11 Sub-Saharan 0.71

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.15
2 East_Sicilian 6.25
3 Central_Greek 7.27
4 West_Sicilian 7.6
5 Greek_Thessaly 7.78
6 South_Italian 9
7 Italian_Abruzzo 9.25
8 Algerian_Jewish 11.01
9 Italian_Jewish 11.18
10 Sephardic_Jewish 11.74
11 Tuscan 12.13
12 Tunisian_Jewish 14.67
13 Libyan_Jewish 15.12
14 Bulgarian 15.65
15 Romanian 17.69
16 North_Italian 17.97
17 Cyprian 18.56
18 Serbian 21.41
19 Lebanese_Muslim 21.57
20 Tunisian 21.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.9% Algerian_Jewish + 20.1% Belorussian @ 2.08
2 89.4% Ashkenazi + 10.6% Croatian @ 2.12
3 90.4% Ashkenazi + 9.6% East_German @ 2.13
4 81.3% Algerian_Jewish + 18.7% Estonian @ 2.15
5 85.7% Ashkenazi + 14.3% Serbian @ 2.15
6 91.4% Ashkenazi + 8.6% Ukrainian @ 2.18
7 91.1% Ashkenazi + 8.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.19
8 92% Ashkenazi + 8% Polish @ 2.19
9 91.4% Ashkenazi + 8.6% South_Polish @ 2.21
10 88.6% Ashkenazi + 11.4% Moldavian @ 2.22
11 90% Ashkenazi + 10% Austrian @ 2.23
12 79.7% Algerian_Jewish + 20.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.25
13 92.7% Ashkenazi + 7.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.25
14 89.4% Ashkenazi + 10.6% Hungarian @ 2.26
15 92.4% Ashkenazi + 7.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.26
16 93.1% Ashkenazi + 6.9% Estonian @ 2.27
17 81.2% Algerian_Jewish + 18.8% Finnish @ 2.27
18 92.4% Ashkenazi + 7.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.3
19 92.6% Ashkenazi + 7.4% Belorussian @ 2.31
20 83.6% Ashkenazi + 16.4% Romanian @ 2.32


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 4.730207
2 East_Sicilian @ 7.101106
3 Central_Greek @ 8.273911
4 West_Sicilian @ 8.601554
5 Greek_Thessaly @ 8.849110
6 South_Italian @ 10.201937
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 10.602359
8 Algerian_Jewish @ 12.436575
9 Italian_Jewish @ 12.695266
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 13.331744
11 Tuscan @ 13.894331
12 Tunisian_Jewish @ 16.556339
13 Libyan_Jewish @ 16.866905
14 Bulgarian @ 17.872778
15 Romanian @ 20.280058
16 North_Italian @ 20.656155
17 Cyprian @ 21.378620
18 Tunisian @ 22.599762
19 Algerian @ 23.512882
20 Serbian @ 24.569357

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.527009


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +25% Tunisian_Jewish +25% Ukrainian @ 2.619281


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Serbian @ 2.357940
2 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Romanian @ 2.444469
3 Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.510953
4 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + Moldavian @ 2.603855
5 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.619281
6 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Serbian @ 2.636717
7 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Croatian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.637380
8 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Bulgarian @ 2.657092
9 Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Libyan_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.687984
10 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + South_Polish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.699003
11 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.699529
12 Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.736144
13 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Croatian + Italian_Jewish @ 2.739045
14 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.745497
15 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Croatian @ 2.753712
16 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Moldavian @ 2.758272
17 Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.775761
18 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + South_Polish @ 2.783221
19 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Croatian + Italian_Jewish @ 2.794930
20 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Croatian + Libyan_Jewish @ 2.803445

No label? Is this K13?

Is not a Near East Combination score of:
East Med 31.5
West Asian 8.53
A little below average for full Ashkenazim?

StillWater
09-04-2019, 11:06 PM
No label? Is this K13?

Is not a Near East Combination score of:
East Med 31.5
West Asian 8.53
A little below average for full Ashkenazim?

The deviation is smaller once you include her Red Sea into the sum, as you should.