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Juno53
11-17-2019, 01:53 PM
I'm a Scot with about 250 direct Scottish ancestors, so where might the mesoAmerican bit come from? Two or three other websites say similar or else 'Amerindian'.

My results:
North and West Europe
98.8%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
86.4%
Scandinavian
12.4%

America 1.2% =
Central and South America
1.2%
Mesoamerican and Andean
1.2%


My brother's results:
North and West Europe
99.1%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
91.0%
Scandinavian
8.1%

Asia 0.9% =
South Asia
0.9%
South Asian
0.9%

He doesn't get Amerindian or South Asia anywhere else. Is it just a convenient place to chuck Ambiguous DNA? Have any other Scots had this? :\

JerryS.
11-17-2019, 03:12 PM
I've read where a 100% Irishman's sister got the same 1.5ish% American Indian and he said it was probably excessive ANE(?)

JerryS.
11-17-2019, 05:24 PM
I'm a Scot with about 250 direct Scottish ancestors, so where might the mesoAmerican bit come from? Two or three other websites say similar or else 'Amerindian'.

My results:
North and West Europe
98.8%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
86.4%
Scandinavian
12.4%

America 1.2% =
Central and South America
1.2%
Mesoamerican and Andean
1.2%


My brother's results:
North and West Europe
99.1%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
91.0%
Scandinavian
8.1%

Asia 0.9% =
South Asia
0.9%
South Asian
0.9%

He doesn't get Amerindian or South Asia anywhere else. Is it just a convenient place to chuck Ambiguous DNA? Have any other Scots had this? :\

I just re-read your results and you have a bit of Scandinavian. that means you could have some Sami, which is similar to various Siberian tribes which have shared ancestry with North American Indian.

sktibo
11-17-2019, 07:43 PM
It's a long shot but are some of your ancestors Orcadians?
It's most likely an imperfection with the tests.

msmarjoribanks
11-17-2019, 07:58 PM
I'd guess it's most likely noise. I've found that MH varies pretty wildly as to the trace/lower amounts they give my parents, sister, and me, such that I don't find any of those particularly reliable. It seems like what your brother shows as South Asian (not terribly uncommon for European results on MH) is showing for you as Mesamerican.

Hurricane
11-17-2019, 08:37 PM
@Ais is scottish and also scores amerindian.
Maybe its a relic from an obscure event?

sktibo
11-17-2019, 08:42 PM
IIRC Ais gets Indian because she has some Indian ancestry

Juno53
11-18-2019, 01:57 AM
Thanks Jerry, I hadn't thought of that possibility.

Juno53
11-18-2019, 01:59 AM
Nope, no Orcadians in the mix that I know of.

Juno53
11-18-2019, 02:05 AM
I'd guess it's most likely noise. I've found that MH varies pretty wildly as to the trace/lower amounts they give my parents, sister, and me, such that I don't find any of those particularly reliable. It seems like what your brother shows as South Asian (not terribly uncommon for European results on MH) is showing for you as Mesamerican.

I've a feeling you're right. I think the fact it keeps cropping up on different sites is what made me start to wonder.

Juno53
11-18-2019, 02:26 AM
@Ais is scottish and also scores amerindian.
Maybe its a relic from an obscure event?

I think that's what I'm secretly hoping for if I'm honest. 250+ Scottish ancestors and not a sniff of even an Englishman among them, gets unbelievably boring after a while.

firemonkey
11-18-2019, 08:59 AM
I'm about 30% Scottish .

My paid my heritage.


Europe
97.8%
North and West Europe
97.8%
English
56.2%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
28.0%
Scandinavian
11.4%
Finnish
2.2%
Asia
1.4%
South Asia
1.4%
South Asian
1.4%
America
0.8%
Native American
0.8%
Native American
0.8%


DNA Land- FTDNA Amazonian 1%
- 23 Native American 1.1%
- My heritage Amazonian 1.2%
- Ancestry DNA Amazonian 1.2%

FTDNA gives <1% North and central American .

The known Scottish ancestry is from my mother's side. On the mixed mode thread she gets quite a few native American as the secondary population with both ancient and modern.

I've been told it's due to heightened ANE. i'm not in a position to challenge that, and accept that's a reasonable explanation. What it means more fully about my mother's ancient/modern ancestry I'm not at all sure .

JerryS.
11-18-2019, 09:38 AM
without reasonable belief of an Indian ancestor I would say the excessive ANE is a good rule of thumb explanation.

firemonkey
11-18-2019, 09:58 AM
What does excessive ANE mean though in terms of ancestry ? What brings it about ?

Juno53
11-18-2019, 06:53 PM
What does excessive ANE mean though in terms of ancestry ? What brings it about ?

Excuse my ignorance, but what is ANE?

firemonkey
11-18-2019, 07:01 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_North_Eurasian Ancient North Eurasian

FionnSneachta
11-18-2019, 10:08 PM
My dad isn't Scottish but he is Irish and gets <1% South American with FTDNA. He also gets Native American percentages on all the GEDmatch calculators.