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alchemist223
01-17-2020, 08:59 PM
Recently, according to Goran Runstrom at FTDNA, the first Big Y 700 samples of Haplogroup F (GHIJK-) were added to the Haplotree, with the testers coming from Indonesia and Vietnam. At this time, the two testers share more than 474 private variants, and they have formed a new clade known as F-F15527. I really hope that they upload their results to YFull shortly.

Osiris
01-17-2020, 10:53 PM
Awesome! I think it's only K that all the branches end in other letters on the FTDNA branch tree. There are so many interesting haplogroups in that corner of the world, the two Haplogroup P men are both from there as well from my understanding. Here's to hoping the prices plummet and interest takes off for these kinds of tests there.

alchemist223
01-17-2020, 10:57 PM
Awesome! I think it's only K that all the branches end in other letters on the FTDNA branch tree. There are so many interesting haplogroups in that corner of the world, the two Haplogroup P men are both from there as well from my understanding. Here's to hoping the prices plummet and interest takes off for these kinds of tests there.

Yes, I suspect that SE Asia, owing to its favorable climate, was once extremely diverse in terms of human lineages, until agriculturalists with "East Asian" ancestry, carrying Haplogroup O, came from China and nearby environs. I suspect that these FTDNA kits will cluster with this group on YFull (https://www.yfull.com/tree/F-Y27277), as those come from China and Vietnam.

thejkhan
01-17-2020, 11:03 PM
They most likely belong to F-Y27277 branch of the YFull tree.

My prediction for F, once more F* are tested: other than GHIJK, it has only one other primary branch (call it F0 tentatively). All South Asian and East Asian F-M89+ GHIJK- belongs to F0. Basically it's an East Eurasian lineage.