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artemv
01-18-2020, 02:50 PM
I have noticed, that ISOGG trees has not been updated since october 2019.
Also - mails of people, responsible for happlogroups, are deleted from google.docs of corresponding trees, but on the main page now we have an e-mail of Ray Banks, as responsible for the entire tree.
What is going on? Are they going to update their trees?

GoldenHind
01-18-2020, 06:59 PM
I sent them several BAM files to establish the upper part of the substructure of R-P312>DF99, but they never acted on it to update their tree.

The ISOGG tree is important because academic studies of aDNA invariably use it as a basis for their testing.

Shujauddin
01-05-2021, 12:41 PM
may be the volunteers have lost interest and given up?

mie
10-30-2021, 02:08 PM
Does anyone know if anything has been done on the ISOGG tree in the last two years?

J1 DYS388=13
10-30-2021, 03:02 PM
Version: 15.73 Date: 11 July 2020 https://isogg.org/tree/

mie
01-16-2022, 01:16 PM
"Typographical errors were corrected on 14 Jan 2022 - mostly elimination of duplicate info" is the last notification on the haplogroup pages but no new SNP of a year and a half or more.

Riverman
01-16-2022, 02:32 PM
"Typographical errors were corrected on 14 Jan 2022 - mostly elimination of duplicate info" is the last notification on the haplogroup pages but no new SNP of a year and a half or more.

I'm getting the impression its currently all up to the private company of FTDNA, which create new branches on a daily bases. Probably the tree is growing too fast for catching up at this point. The main problem I have with this is that its all up to one single private company, which might or might not exist in a couple of years. I'm glad it does exist, but its not the kind of safe haven for that amount of data under all circumstances.

MacUalraig
01-16-2022, 03:15 PM
There is also the YFull tree at

yfull.com/tree

not to mention the 'minimal' Y chromosome tree of van Oven which some scientists use, not all users want a giant constantly changing tree.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24166809/

But I agree especially since the firm you mention got sold only recently.

mie
01-16-2022, 04:42 PM
The system used by YSOGG seems to me the best and most suggestive because it shows me a path and how far I am in the tree from its stem. When only random SNP names are used, I'm in a fog in a forest where I'm lost.

Paul333
01-16-2022, 10:38 PM
Just looked at it, and it has my branch at Y H2a1a, with being positive for SNP Z19052, its most recent date is 11th July 2020, but think it updates still.

Riverman
01-17-2022, 12:49 PM
The system used by YSOGG seems to me the best and most suggestive because it shows me a path and how far I am in the tree from its stem. When only random SNP names are used, I'm in a fog in a forest where I'm lost.

For me its the other way around. I think a lot depends on the graphic illustration. I'm still waiting for FTDNA to publish their tree with ancient samples included. Anyone knows when it might come out?